Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Silkyskills1]

I’d take 3 of them 4 and chuck em straight in.

Yes, one of them not really up to it now as the years have caught up with him.

[CrosspoolClarets]

I’m struggling to square the fire sale narrative with the Parker interview today. Not the in house pitch-side one, not the Radio Lancs pitch-side one, the one sat in an interview suite. He seemed to be adamant he didn’t want players around who don’t want to be here. Implies to me either the players have wanted out since May, or have changed their mind since Parker arrived.

Either way it feels like he wants “his” choice of players in to supplement the ones who will be left. Much of this could be his choice. He will feel he needs some loyalty.

Feels though that we will need 3-4 loan rabbits out of hats, like we did 2 years ago. Feels unrealistic to get a lot tied up on permanents.

[Ric_C]

Wish someone would bid for Trafford

[Lord_Bob]

So still to leave next week:

O'Shea - certain
Benson - pretty much nailed on
McNally - probably
Trafford - maybe
Brownhill - maybe
Koleosho - maybe
Cullen - doubtful

Hopefully some decent incomings to replace that lot.

[bumba]

I’m struggling to square the fire sale narrative with the Parker interview today. Not the in house pitch-side one, not the Radio Lancs pitch-side one, the one sat in an interview suite. He seemed to be adamant he didn’t want players around who don’t want to be here. Implies to me either the players have wanted out since May, or have changed their mind since Parker arrived.

Either way it feels like he wants “his” choice of players in to supplement the ones who will be left. Much of this could be his choice. He will feel he needs some loyalty.

Feels though that we will need 3-4 loan rabbits out of hats, like we did 2 years ago. Feels unrealistic to get a lot tied up on permanents.

Every player should have made clear when they returned what their intentions were and should have been dealt with swiftly not with a week to go after 2/3 games

[NewClaret]

Not sure about anyone else but I'm ******* furious

I’m trying to stay quiet because I’m raging. Beyond furious.

[123EasyasBFC]

I’m trying to stay quiet because I’m raging. Beyond furious.

You was in the know all of last week regarding incomings gone abit quiet since Hannibal

[DCWat]

In Pace we trust!

God help us!! Clueless fool!

[NewClaret]

You was in the know all of last week regarding incomings gone abit quiet since Hannibal

Very rarely get updates

I was led to believe Hannibal was very close/done but that was obviously not true

Haven’t heard anything since but that’s not unusual

[CoolClaret]

Sorry you don't go from the scenes at full time at Luton to the scenes today because players want out - that's b0llocks, they wouldn't have played in the first two games.

The dressing room morale has suffered due to the unsustainable business model currently being utilised by the club. Pace is batshit mental if he thinks you can have this upheaval every season and make it work - no doubt Mooney has been giving him some nonsense projections based on his models that tells him all is well.

Holy sh1t what a joke. Fuming!!

[Steddyman]

I get the feeling we got lucky last week with the 5-0, which covered up cracks already there. We were awful in that first half.

[NewClaret]

Every player should have made clear when they returned what their intentions were and should have been dealt with swiftly not with a week to go after 2/3 games

To be honest I disagree we should be dictated to by the players - we can’t really let them all go, if that’s what they want, can we?

Nobody will convince me that Koleosho, Amdouni, Esteve, Trafford, etc want to be here now. We’d have no team.

I think strong leadership would decide who they are selling and tell the rest they’re staying.

[Silkyskills1]

Benson has happened this week, he was in the squad last week and now this week has decided he doesn’t want to be

Benson hasn't 'happened this week' and you know it. I'm just a fan,a punter since 1958 and though I will never be privy to what happens behind the scenes it's been as clear as day that Benson and also Zaroury have had no future at this club for a long time. I watched Benson walking to the dug out last Saturday before the game and mentioned that he 'cut a lonely figure' as he made his way.
Along with my family I spent a lot of time and money today travelling to Wearside for that game.
Of course that's my choice and has been for many years of ups and downs but there was something about today's performance that stunk of sheer negligence. Two games in, nine goals scored and a bench with two goalkeepers and 3 kids. What is happening is shameful and if nothing else a warning to other professional.football clubs with ambition how not to go about their business. Those people behind the scenes with their laptops, data and any other type of modern crap should hang their heads in shame.

[Lord_Bob]

So still to leave next week:

O'Shea - certain
Benson - pretty much nailed on
McNally - probably
Trafford - maybe
Brownhill - maybe
Koleosho - maybe
Cullen - doubtful

Forgot

Amdouni - likely

[Ric_C]

What is puzzling is why the sudden exodus now? Seems like a trigger has been pulled since the Odobert news broke.

As a side issue, O'Hare for a free would have been a good signing in hindsight, as with Odobert and JBG leaving he would have been a good addition.

[Vegas Claret]

if that fee structure is correct then it's even worse than I previously thought

[123EasyasBFC]

I get the feeling we got lucky last week with the 5-0, which covered up cracks already there. We were awful in that first half.

Beauty of the championship is you can majority of the time get away with having a poor half when you had the quality we had off the bench, today we just didn’t have any quality on the bench apart from Amdouni who doesn’t any to be here

[CoolClaret]

if that fee structure is correct then it's even worse than I previously thought

The thing that I don't understand is why sell for that then bring in Worrall and Humphries for a similar (if not higher) fee?

Why kick the can down the road again? We just had a partnership between O'Shea and Esteve. Stupid!

[Silkyskills1]

Agree. Not sure there’s any point in Egan. I’d rather see those wages go on another striker.

Not in agreement with your first statement. He may have had his day but can still control and pass a football which are the two basics for anyone purporting to play football. Sweet left foot apparently.

[Jakubclaret]

What is puzzling is why the sudden exodus now? Seems like a trigger has been pulled since the Odobert news broke.

As a side issue, O'Hare for a free would have been a good signing in hindsight, as with Odobert and JBG leaving he would have been a good addition.

It's been on the horizon for awhile. It's just quietly going on behind the scenes with players instructing their agents to put word out & the club actively wanting to sell. It's true that some of the players will want to leave & will be pursuing that aim it's difficult to imagine the club putting many obstacles up as it benefits both parties.

[123EasyasBFC]

Benson hasn't 'happened this week' and you know it. I'm just a fan,a punter since 1958 and though I will never be privy to what happens behind the scenes it's been as clear as day that Benson and also Zaroury have had no future at this club for a long time. I watched Benson walking to the dug out last Saturday before the game and mentioned that he 'cut a lonely figure' as he made his way.
Along with my family I spent a lot of time and money today travelling to Wearside for that game.
Of course that's my choice and has been for many years of ups and downs but there was something about today's performance that stunk of sheer negligence. Two games in, nine goals scored and a bench with two goalkeepers and 3 kids. What is happening is shameful and if nothing else a warning to other professional.football clubs with ambition how not to go about their business. Those people behind the scenes with their laptops, data and any other type of modern crap should hang their heads in shame.

I should of worded it then that it’s further down the line this week that he and Parker felt like he couldn’t be involved like he was last week, if that decision was only made on Thursday or Friday then it’s wonder we don’t have a replacement in

[Lord_Bob]

So still to leave next week:

O'Shea - certain
Benson - pretty much nailed on
McNally - probably
Trafford - maybe
Brownhill - maybe
Koleosho - maybe
Cullen - doubtful

Forgot

Amdouni - likely

Forgot

Weghourst - certain
Vitiniho - maybe.

Going to be an interesting week ahead.

[BuryClaret]

Not in agreement with your first statement. He may have had his day but can still control and pass a football which are the two basics for anyone purporting to play football. Sweet left foot apparently.

Fair enough. He’s certainly a good pro, I’m not doubting that. Feels like we’ve got someone very similar with Worrall though.

[dsr]

Fair enough. He’s certainly a good pro, I’m not doubting that. Feels like we’ve got someone very similar with Worrall though.

It'll be interesting when Worrall meets his team mates. "Hi boys, this is Joe Worrall. Joe, this is ... this is .........

Hello? Hello? Anyone there?

[Rileybobs]

Alan: Hi Joe, great to have you here. How was your summer? Heard you holidayed with the family in Turkey, did you have a good time? Speaking of Turkey, I need a chat, come into my office…

[RickyBobby]

Forgot

Weghourst - certain
Vitiniho - maybe.

Going to be an interesting week ahead.

Makes for disturbing reading. When all these players want out is isn’t good.
The big clue for me is JBG wanting desperately to leave only a few weeks after resigning. The players have probably realised that VK wasn’t as bad a manager as it could get! It took us a long time to settle on Parker and now that looks like an awful decision. If sack him could help convince just half of them on that list to stay then they need to sack him now.

[ksrclaret]

Makes for disturbing reading. When all these players want out is isn’t good.
The big clue for me is JBG wanting desperately to leave only a few weeks after resigning. The players have probably realised that VK wasn’t as bad a manager as it could get! It took us a long time to settle on Parker and now that looks like an awful decision. If sack him could help convince just half of them on that list to stay then they need to sack him now.

I don't for one second believe that Scott Parker is the problem here. After the Luton game, O'Shea and Brownhill came out and said that Parker has been a breath of fresh air and the mood around the team was brilliant. Are you really suggesting that in the space of 2 weeks Parker has alienated the squad to such a level that they've all suddenly told the club they're off?

I think if you want a reason for the events of the last 2 weeks, follow the money.

[quoonbeatz]

Aren’t you the guy who was calling Gudmundson a weasel the other day for using the club?

[elwaclaret]

Makes for disturbing reading. When all these players want out is isn’t good.
The big clue for me is JBG wanting desperately to leave only a few weeks after resigning. The players have probably realised that VK wasn’t as bad a manager as it could get! It took us a long time to settle on Parker and now that looks like an awful decision. If sack him could help convince just half of them on that list to stay then they need to sack him now.

I was disappointed that JBG left but it made sense for all parties. If and when O’Shea is confirmed to be leaving is something completely different; he is exactly the kind of player the board have been spinning as someone the next generation would be built around.

[BurnleyFC]

if that fee structure is correct then it's even worse than I previously thought

Be even less than that by the time ALK have restructured the deal at an extortionate interest rate so that they can have the money straight away.

[JohnMcGreal]

I was disappointed that JBG left but it made sense for all parties. If and when O’Shea is confirmed to be leaving is something completely different; he is exactly the kind of player the board have been spinning as someone the next generation would be built around.

Did it make sense for all parties? I think it made sense for Gudmundsson. It was a terrible deal for the club. A deal that's looking worse by the day when you look at the kind of players we're naming in our match day squad now.

I agree with you on O'Shea, though. At some point the club has to resist offers for certain players because the money on offer just isn't worth losing them over. Gudmundsson and O'Shea are good examples. We'd have been better off turning those offers down and keeping them for another season.

[elwaclaret]

Did it make sense for all parties? I think it made sense for Gudmundsson. It was a terrible deal for the club. A deal that's looking worse by the day when you look at the kind of players we're naming in our match day squad now.

I agree with you on O'Shea, though. At some point the club has to resist offers for certain players because the money on offer just isn't worth losing them over. Gudmundsson and O'Shea are good examples. We'd have been better off turning those offers down and keeping them for another season.

Much as ai like Gudmundsson the only way refusing him that move, was IF he was going to be needed more than for a few cameo’s. The board have a week to prove that was all we were going to need him for.

[bumba]

To be honest I disagree we should be dictated to by the players - we can’t really let them all go, if that’s what they want, can we?

Nobody will convince me that Koleosho, Amdouni, Esteve, Trafford, etc want to be here now. We’d have no team.

I think strong leadership would decide who they are selling and tell the rest they’re staying.

Ideally yes we sell who we want Odobert and Berge for money for example then tell the rest big offers or your staying put.
Just comes across as accept any cash now, smacks of clauses inserted in to contracts last summer

[Tricky Trevor]

Is Trafford allergic to clean sheets? Conceded at Luton, conceded today.
Clean sheet v Cardiff for Hladecky.

[Tricky Trevor]

Makes for disturbing reading. When all these players want out is isn’t good.
The big clue for me is JBG wanting desperately to leave only a few weeks after resigning. The players have probably realised that VK wasn’t as bad a manager as it could get! It took us a long time to settle on Parker and now that looks like an awful decision. If sack him could help convince just half of them on that list to stay then they need to sack him now.

What utter shite.
JBG left for his last big pay day and good luck to him he deserves it. He also brought in a transfer fee we weren’t expecting. Where has anybody said he desperately wanted to leave?
“Parker looks like an awful decision” after a 1-0 defeat away to the top of the league.
Grow up.

[DCWat]

Ideally yes we sell who we want Odobert and Berge for money for example then tell the rest big offers or your staying put.
Just comes across as accept any cash now, smacks of clauses inserted in to contracts last summer

Nowt to do with clauses. All to do with an ownership with no clue about football, desperate for each and every Euro that they can recoup and all because of their own starry eyed mismanagement, last summer.

Our club is heading towards trouble! These next few days before the window closes are HUGE. Get it wrong, fail to invest (in genuine quality, not data driven punts) and we’re up the creek without a paddle and a **** tonne of debt.

These are not good, nor exciting times. We are at a precipice with owners who’d more likely bail out than see us through the tough times.

Little Alan hasn’t a clue what’s on the horizon if it all goes to ****.

[BigGaz]

Been told all the way through this window by the Burnley finance understanderererers that this is all class. Brilliant lads. Its just how the books work and you're a bed wetter if you don't get with it.

There's gonna be a big payoff soon where you luddites are gonna proven to be wrong. Benson and Zaroury were shite all along.

Source: trust me bro.

[Commy]

If all these players want out, why did we sell Twine who wanted to stay?

[Lord_Bob]

So still to leave next week:

O'Shea - certain
Benson - pretty much nailed on
McNally - probably
Trafford - maybe
Brownhill - maybe
Koleosho - maybe
Cullen - doubtful

Forgot

Amdouni - likely

Forgot

Weggy - certain
Vitiniho - maybe

Forgot

Al Dahkil - likely.

I think that's it.

Not sure how we got here after such a promising start to the season, things changed rapidly this week. Hoping for a better one next week.

[burnley007]

Is it actually even possible that the board can do enough high quality business this week that we can actually have some hope of making the play offs?

I just don't see where the board go from here, its gone wasaaay too far.

The squad is gone.

I'm dreading Saturday now. I was 100% confident a week ago.

I've been supporting Burnley for 35 years, I've never witnessed anything like this before.

[Clive 1960]

Nowt to do with clauses. All to do with an ownership with no clue about football, desperate for each and every Euro that they can recoup and all because of their own starry eyed mismanagement, last summer.

Our club is heading towards trouble! These next few days before the window closes are HUGE. Get it wrong, fail to invest (in genuine quality, not data driven punts) and we’re up the creek without a paddle and a **** tonne of debt.

These are not good, nor exciting times. We are at a precipice with owners who’d more likely bail out than see us through the tough times.

Little Alan hasn’t a clue what’s on the horizon if it all goes to ****.

I was worried before season started that if we sell a few of our better players who comes now with the exodus of players I'm very worried if we don't bring in quality players to get us out of this league we could be in trouble on and off the pitch...

[robinoz]

Koleosho off as well then
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/fo ... ip-winger/

[PensansClaret]

I was so confident that we would win the Championship I put a good bit on us to win it. Now not confident at all. Let’s hope Matt and the boys can work wonders and get some Gems in.

[bumba]

Nowt to do with clauses. All to do with an ownership with no clue about football, desperate for each and every Euro that they can recoup and all because of their own starry eyed mismanagement, last summer.

Our club is heading towards trouble! These next few days before the window closes are HUGE. Get it wrong, fail to invest (in genuine quality, not data driven punts) and we’re up the creek without a paddle and a **** tonne of debt.

These are not good, nor exciting times. We are at a precipice with owners who’d more likely bail out than see us through the tough times.

Little Alan hasn’t a clue what’s on the horizon if it all goes to ****.

I agree with you about the board and everything else.
As for the clauses I genuinely believe VK was that arrogant he'd have told Pace to accept clauses or make promises about leaving upon relegation because he didn't think he'd get us relegated

[pushpinpussy]

A tip for some adult men : Don't post on a public messageboard when your emotions are running high. Its embarrassing.

[fatboy47]

Koleosho off as well then
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/fo ... ip-winger/

Thats not great.

[RVclaret]

Nixon reporting the fee for O’Shea is £18m.

Also says Parker wants Travers if Trafford leaves.

Tbh it’s bonkers to be considering selling Trafford at this stage, with £100m of sales already booked.

[Row x]

Is it actually even possible that the board can do enough high quality business this week that we can actually have some hope of making the play offs?

I just don't see where the board go from here, its gone wasaaay too far.

The squad is gone.

I'm dreading Saturday now. I was 100% confident a week ago.

I've been supporting Burnley for 35 years, I've never witnessed anything like this before.

The "squad" had to go, it was way too big

The club has faced far worse positions over the years

What I have never witnessed before, is the absolute over reaction of supporters after one defeat.
We knew even after wins against Luton and Cardiff that we would still need to sell players, at present we have sold 2 of the team that started against Luton, one of whom has been replaced.

Some of the rumours will come true this next week, some won't. We will bring players in

If, come next Friday we've sold every player, and brought nobody in, then that is the time to panic, until then, relax and look forward to a win on saturday

[beddie]

What’s happened to Weghorst?, perhaps I’ve missed it. Is he still with us?

[RVclaret]

What’s happened to Weghorst?, perhaps I’ve missed it. Is he still with us?

Yes, Parker said he didn’t select him as he’s looking for a move.