Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[BleedingClaret]

Lets hope some are, because that same squad as yesterday will not do at all.

Agreed but they will barely know each others names
It’s having Cullen & Koleosho back that’s important

[Andreshotboots]

Got to say if multiple incomings happen, and we ultimately manage our end goal of promotion, I'll be the first to eat a huge piece of humble pie..

Suppose yesterday was just a shock to us all in terms of selection, the bench etc and we were all angry, shocked, bewildered, call it what you want.

Should be another exciting chapter of our wonderful clubs history ahead of us, especially over the next few days..

[123EasyasBFC]

Being available to play doesn’t make them ready
Worrall Sambo & Humphries didn’t start against Sunderland

Worrall wasn’t registered in time, sambo hasn’t been in the squad because Parker said he just wasn’t selected and why would a left footed cb start ahead of Esteve.

If you really think we sign a winger in next 48 hours and koleosho is still Injured at the weekend that he continues with hountonji on the left

[BleedingClaret]

Worrall wasn’t registered in time, sambo hasn’t been in the squad because Parker said he just wasn’t selected and why would a left footed cb start ahead of Esteve.

If you really think we sign a winger in next 48 hours and koleosho is still Injured at the weekend that he continues with hountonji on the left

Sambo & Humphries were on the bench
Sambo came on Humphries not
New signings not ready to start even with a decimated squad
It’s likely that our signings will be in their ilk
I’m not expecting that it’s a player that’s playing already this season in the championship or the prem
So how if they’ve not trained with the other players are they suddenly going to be ready physically and mentally especially if they’re coming from another country to step into the hostile atmosphere a of toxic derby game and save the day

[Murger]

Believe we’ve got multiple medicals booked over the next 24/48 hours. No names yet.

Let’s hope these medicals are for first team starters, and not ones for the future.

[burnley007]

The new batch of players coming in, should we just call them by their squad numbers? Not really worth learning their names is it? They'll be sold off again as soon as possible.

[Passing Clouds]

Looking forward to bringing in wingers who are more productive than Vitinho & Koleosho. One is a good squad player and the other has potential but we should be looking at players with regular assists and goals this season (guy from Celtic for example)

I’m staying positive. Part of me can’t believe we’ve raked in all this cash from Prem clubs etc for players that were proven not Prem standard. We need to spend some of the money now on players that are ready to deliver now!

[Vegas Claret]

One is a good squad player and the other has potential but we should be looking at players with regular assists and goals this season (guy from Celtic for example)

Yep, sadly because of all the sales we need players who walk into the starting 11 if we have any promotion ambition

[Grimsdale]

Wolves reportedly leading the race to sign Fiorentina winger Jonathan Ikone - hopefully means they won't be going after Koleosho as well (if anything after yesterday they should probably be focusing on their defence)

[Passing Clouds]

Yep, sadly because of all the sales we need players who walk into the starting 11 if we have any promotion ambition

Yeah agree. We invested too heavily in potential IMO. I get the impression that the plan has changed a bit (eg Worrall) and the age of the squad looks likely to be heading 26 ish I think (Parker influence?). Yes, our new signings need to be first team ready.

[BurnleyHeff]

Looking forward to bringing in wingers who are more productive than Vitinho & Koleosho. One is a good squad player and the other has potential but we should be looking at players with regular assists and goals this season (guy from Celtic for example)

I’m staying positive. Part of me can’t believe we’ve raked in all this cash from Prem clubs etc for players that were proven not Prem standard. We need to spend some of the money now on players that are ready to deliver now!

Maybe you should do your research on the lad from Celtic. Michael Johnston has yet to prove he can get regular assists in a season. 15 assists in 8 seasons isn't to get excited about. Yeah he had a good second half of the season in the championship with West Brom but he only assisted twice.

[mybloodisclaret]

Believe we’ve got multiple medicals booked over the next 24/48 hours. No names yet.

Thanks for this LC. Feels like the antidote needed on this forum at the moment. Let's hope there are no hiccups and they are players capable of improving the group, and perhaps enough to settle the existing players down somewhat.

We desperately need stability ahead of Saturday.

Part of that stability in my view also includes retaining:
Brownhill, Esteve, Cullen, Koleosho, Vitinho, Roberts and Foster. Add some quality in there, particularly in the highlitlghed positions of wingers, midfield and up top and we aren't far away.

[Passing Clouds]

Maybe you should do your research on the lad from Celtic. Michael Johnston has yet to prove he can get regular assists in a season. 15 assists in 8 seasons isn't to get excited about. Yeah he had a good second half of the season in the championship with West Brom but he only assisted twice.

I was basing it on West Brom stats to be honest. But I think you get my point on end product

[mybloodisclaret]

I was basing it on West Brom stats to be honest. But I think you get my point on end product

Seems quite reasonable PC. MJ is 25, hardly fair or relevant to consider his stats when he was 17.

A good barometer would be how he performed in a top half championship team last season.

[burnleytom]

Wolves reportedly leading the race to sign Fiorentina winger Jonathan Ikone - hopefully means they won't be going after Koleosho as well (if anything after yesterday they should probably be focusing on their defence)

Fiorentina are also on the verge of losing Gonzalez to Juventus, so wouldn’t say losing another winger is anything close to a definite.

[BurnleyHeff]

Seems quite reasonable PC. MJ is 25, hardly fair or relevant to consider his stats when he was 17.

A good barometer would be how he performed in a top half championship team last season.

Just being realistic, 9 assists in the last 3 years isn't great from a winger. But any signing by the club will get my full support. It's going to be an interesting few days. UTC

[burnley007]

INS
Etienne Green, Vaclav Hladky, Bashir Humphreys, Joe Worrall, Shurandy Sambo, Lucas Pires, Johann Berg Gudmundsson (since left) and Andreas Hountondji

OUTS
Arijanet Muric, Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Lawrence Vigouroux, Dara O’Shea, Charlie Taylor, Samuel Bastien, Sander Berge, Jack Cork, Scott Twine, Johann Berg Gudmundsson, Darko Churlinov (loan), Dara Costelloe (loan), Wilson Odobert, Anass Zaroury, Michael Mellon (loan) and Michael Obafemi (loan)

The difference in quality between the ins and outs is an absolute joke.

[gandhisflipflop]

**** me 007 just wait until the window closes.

[claretonthecoast1882]

INS
Etienne Green, Vaclav Hladky, Bashir Humphreys, Joe Worrall, Shurandy Sambo, Lucas Pires, Johann Berg Gudmundsson (since left) and Andreas Hountondji

OUTS
Arijanet Muric, Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Lawrence Vigouroux, Dara O’Shea, Charlie Taylor, Samuel Bastien, Sander Berge, Jack Cork, Scott Twine, Johann Berg Gudmundsson, Darko Churlinov (loan), Dara Costelloe (loan), Wilson Odobert, Anass Zaroury, Michael Mellon (loan) and Michael Obafemi (loan)

The difference in quality between the ins and outs is an absolute joke.

Weird isn’t it that you lose better players than you can sign when you get relegated. I can’t believe it hasn’t happened before.

[BleedingClaret]

So we’re going to sign a load of players in 1 go, really good top championship standard, that no other club has noticed this transfer window cos we’re so good at analytics.

Signings so far
For the Sunderland debacle
Hladky (Green) BEHIND Trafford??????
Pires technically good positionally poor & SLOW
Worrall not available SIGNED TOO LATE
Hiuntondj early days DOESNT LOOK GOOD
Sambo On the bench IN THIS SQUAD
Humohries 12m on the IN THIS SQUAD
NOT EVEN USED 12m

So excuse for not getting excited about loads of medicals for the new gen’s unearthed by the recruitment team???

They forget to turn on the difficulty of the league your playing in button to offset your stats

Dreading the millions about to be wasted on the players that hardly ever play or go out on loan and never come back or play but look like they never played before and are so out of their depth OR are exciting but sit on the Bench and get 10 minutes here or there and then get sold
The ones made of fine china that are always injured the only group of 20 yr olds who are often too ill to run around
And last and harshly the ones who can’t cope with playing footy all day every day picking up 20. 30 40 50 k a week and having to go home to their luxury pad in Cheshire

Like to be wrong

[Row x]

So we’re going to sign a load of players in 1 go, really good top championship standard, that no other club has noticed this transfer window cos we’re so good at analytics.

Signings so far
For the Sunderland debacle
Hladky (Green) BEHIND Trafford??????
Pires technically good positionally poor & SLOW
Worrall not available SIGNED TOO LATE
Hiuntondj early days DOESNT LOOK GOOD
Sambo On the bench IN THIS SQUAD
Humohries 12m on the IN THIS SQUAD
NOT EVEN USED 12m

So excuse for not getting excited about loads of medicals for the new gen’s unearthed by the recruitment team???

They forget to turn on the difficulty of the league your playing in button to offset your stats

Dreading the millions about to be wasted on the players that hardly ever play or go out on loan and never come back or play but look like they never played before and are so out of their depth OR are exciting but sit on the Bench and get 10 minutes here or there and then get sold
The ones made of fine china that are always injured the only group of 20 yr olds who are often too ill to run around
And last and harshly the ones who can’t cope with playing footy all day every day picking up 20. 30 40 50 k a week and having to go home to their luxury pad in Cheshire

Like to be wrong

The recruitment team that identified these players that clubs in higher leagues are buying? At a profit... Seems they've done ok with the standard of player they identified.

[BleedingClaret]

Weird isn’t it that you lose better players than you can sign when you get relegated. I can’t believe it hasn’t happened before.

Weird how the top list is so much smaller than the top list
We know why but they are the ones that bought quantity not quality
They haven’t inherited it
7 in
16 out
The out list would be at least 20 if they were any good at what they set out to achieve
This isn’t normal

[123EasyasBFC]

INS
Etienne Green, Vaclav Hladky, Bashir Humphreys, Joe Worrall, Shurandy Sambo, Lucas Pires, Johann Berg Gudmundsson (since left) and Andreas Hountondji

OUTS
Arijanet Muric, Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Lawrence Vigouroux, Dara O’Shea, Charlie Taylor, Samuel Bastien, Sander Berge, Jack Cork, Scott Twine, Johann Berg Gudmundsson, Darko Churlinov (loan), Dara Costelloe (loan), Wilson Odobert, Anass Zaroury, Michael Mellon (loan) and Michael Obafemi (loan)

The difference in quality between the ins and outs is an absolute joke.

Funnily enough though after the forest last game of the season I expected Everyone on that list to leave other than O’Shea and zaroury. It’s just the timing of all the departures that fills you with panic about them being replaced

[BleedingClaret]

The recruitment team that identified these players that clubs in higher leagues are buying? At a profit... Seems they've done ok with the standard of player they identified.

You must be here just to try and sway the board

Some go oh we bought him for 15 and sold him for 20 that’s 5 mil profit

Some go we bought him for 15mil
With borrowed money with INTEREST
We refinanced that loan INTEREST ON INTEREST
We paid him 2 mil at least
We sold him for 20 and because we don’t get it all up front but need it we factored it losing a couple of mil
Oh and we paid the army of analysts and recruiters (even a set piece coach)
And with these highly paid all stars we’ve lost our prem status and likely 50 to 80 mil a year

Genius

Where were you before July

[beeholeclaret]

INS
Etienne Green, Vaclav Hladky, Bashir Humphreys, Joe Worrall, Shurandy Sambo, Lucas Pires, Johann Berg Gudmundsson (since left) and Andreas Hountondji

OUTS
Arijanet Muric, Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Lawrence Vigouroux, Dara O’Shea, Charlie Taylor, Samuel Bastien, Sander Berge, Jack Cork, Scott Twine, Johann Berg Gudmundsson, Darko Churlinov (loan), Dara Costelloe (loan), Wilson Odobert, Anass Zaroury, Michael Mellon (loan) and Michael Obafemi (loan)

The difference in quality between the ins and outs is an absolute joke.

Looking at above list of OUTS there are few surprises really taking into account we are relegated and the manager who brought most of them in has left the club. The club has to reduce wage will and that is why parachute payments are made for relegated clubs.

We don’t yet know the quality of many of the INS and we may have to be patient until they settle in (not easy I know).

[Woodleyclaret]

The sell to survive model is always one that has plagued Burnley FC.We have sold stars over the years following relegation. The difference between then and now is the short sighted nature of sales.Particular Wilson Odebert sold far too early in his Burnley career with inherent loss of serious money.The selling of Luca Koleosho this season will be a disaster of monumental foolish proportions.He will have a great career but we need at least this season to develop and utilise his talents not grab a quick buck with a sale.

[Row x]

You must be here just to try and sway the board

Some go oh we bought him for 15 and sold him for 20 that’s 5 mil profit

Some go we bought him for 15mil
With borrowed money with INTEREST
We refinanced that loan INTEREST ON INTEREST
We paid him 2 mil at least
We sold him for 20 and because we don’t get it all up front but need it we factored it losing a couple of mil
Oh and we paid the army of analysts and recruiters (even a set piece coach)
And with these highly paid all stars we’ve lost our prem status and likely 50 to 80 mil a year

Genius

Where were you before July

I was only talking about the quality of the players identfied by the recruitment team, not how it was, or wasn't paid for, and I never mentioned a set piece coach, so not really sure why you feel the need to shout and rant at me

[CoolClaret]

You must be here just to try and sway the board

Some go oh we bought him for 15 and sold him for 20 that’s 5 mil profit

Some go we bought him for 15mil
With borrowed money with INTEREST
We refinanced that loan INTEREST ON INTEREST
We paid him 2 mil at least
We sold him for 20 and because we don’t get it all up front but need it we factored it losing a couple of mil
Oh and we paid the army of analysts and recruiters (even a set piece coach)
And with these highly paid all stars we’ve lost our prem status and likely 50 to 80 mil a year

Genius

Where were you before July

Bang on.

Even look at Anass Zaroury, we made what a few mill on him at best? Try and replace him for that profit margin, highly unlikely - he still had 4 yr on his deal! Makes zero sense.

It's the most ridiculous 'strategy' that I've ever seen.

[Cooclaret]

The model is one of buy talent, shop window it, sell it for a profit. Thats regardless of the division we’re in. Other young players and agents see this, want to get their players into the club.

Granted, O’Shea likely wouldn’t have gone but Oderbert would’ve. Thats the model we’ve used since the 60’s.

It’s never been hidden from the fans!!

That’s a strong business model. Wolves and Brentford have secured their Premier League status (for now) using it.

There is so much bias against the current board, it’s frightening what was posted yesterday and at times endorsed by others.

You can see why disinformation, or the filling of gapped information with ‘facts’ enables and empowers people in the internet to draw summary conclusions that land them in hot water.

If I was the mods, I’d be having a discussion about the board having ‘technical’ issues come the weekend for everyone’s sanity.

[randomclaret2]

Bang on.

Even look at Anass Zaroury, we made what a few mill on him at best? Try and replace him for that profit margin, highly unlikely - he still had 4 yr on his deal! Makes zero sense.

It's the most ridiculous 'strategy' that I've ever seen.

The whole ' strategy ' is driven by the constant need to finance huge debt.

[Cooclaret]

The whole ' strategy ' is driven by the constant need to finance huge debt.

Which you’re guessing exists. There are people better informed than you and I to discuss those issues, and even they’re making educated guesses based on some of the whole picture.

[CoolClaret]

The whole ' strategy ' is driven by the constant need to finance huge debt.

Precisely - which is why it's ridiculous and should be a non-starter. Kicking the debt can down the road whilst our beloved club and it's facilities is used as collateral.

[BleedingClaret]

I was only talking about the quality of the players identfied by the recruitment team, not how it was, or wasn't paid for, and I never mentioned a set piece coach, so not really sure why you feel the need to shout and rant at me

Oh well as an attending Burnley fan of over 50 years I’m a tad emotional at present
Went to Sunderland, knew, just like last year, at 2pm, team sheet, that we were beaten
If you utilise the quality players you identified in a League that they’re too young and raw for and lose millions in revenue as a result of relegation then sell them at a face fee profit but in real terms likely break even at best and then in the league below, a league where your financial model can’t work, so you need at least some of these players a year older and wiser to get you out of it, but due to your financial model, you know the PROCESS, you have to sell most of them, and we know at least 4 more were or are still intended to be sold, and are left, including some spurious reasons for omissions, with a team that is not fit for purpose and a bench with 2 keepers and 3 kids

This isn’t a rant, it’s barely a whisper in relation to how I fell about this debacle

[CoolClaret]

The model is one of buy talent, shop window it, sell it for a profit. Thats regardless of the division we’re in. Other young players and agents see this, want to get their players into the club.

Granted, O’Shea likely wouldn’t have gone but Oderbert would’ve. Thats the model we’ve used since the 60’s.

It’s never been hidden from the fans!!

That’s a strong business model. Wolves and Brentford have secured their Premier League status (for now) using it.

There is so much bias against the current board, it’s frightening what was posted yesterday and at times endorsed by others.

You can see why disinformation, or the filling of gapped information with ‘facts’ enables and empowers people in the internet to draw summary conclusions that land them in hot water.

If I was the mods, I’d be having a discussion about the board having ‘technical’ issues come the weekend for everyone’s sanity.

Brentford nor Wolves have ever done what we have done three years on the spin. No team in football has to the best of my knowledge. It's lunacy.

Brentford and Wolves also kept a core squad of players throughout their respective 'projects' - we have barely kept players for more than a season!

[Cooclaret]

Brentford nor Wolves have ever done what we have done three years on the spin. No team in football has to the best of my knowledge. It's lunacy.

Brentford and Wolves also kept a core squad of players throughout their respective 'projects' - we have barely kept players for more than a season!

They didn’t have a weapon of a manager as we had last year. Totally ruined the club.

We have to sell because we were relegated. You can level that at Pace, he didn’t manage Kompany and the circus he brought to town. Should’ve gone in October.

It’ll still work, we will be promoted.

[CoolClaret]

They didn’t have a weapon of a manager as we had last year. Totally ruined the club.

We have to sell because we were relegated. You can level that at Pace, he didn’t manage Kompany and the circus he brought to town. Should’ve gone in October.

It’ll still work, we will be promoted.

We shouldn't have to sell 10+ players in the first team squad/starting XI which is what we're doing right now. That's mismanagement and eventually, the law of averages catches up and all the replacements aren't quite as good as expected and then what?

[jos]

The new batch of players coming in, should we just call them by their squad numbers? Not really worth learning their names is it? They'll be sold off again as soon as possible.

This did make me chuckle, I can imagine one of the board members standing on the sidelines with a megaphone,
“Come in number four, your time is up”

UTC

[Oldparkwood]

Come on guys and girls. Whilst some of the discussion on here about the debt of the club is great knowledge to read... Let's try and keep this thread on topic.

[Row x]

Come on guys and girls. Whilst some of the discussion on here about the debt of the club is great knowledge to read... Let's try and keep this thread on topic.

Hopefully there will be a few rumours to discuss very soon

[kentonclaret]

So we’re going to sign a load of players in 1 go, really good top championship standard, that no other club has noticed this transfer window cos we’re so good at analytics.

In my experience if you go down to the buffet late you’re not going to dine like a king. You just feast as best you can on the leftovers.

[Cooclaret]

Hopefully there will be a few rumours to discuss very soon

They’ll be signings all week…

If the medicals are passed.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Hopefully there will be a few rumours to discuss very soon

Finger's crossed two in today and around a total of 4 or 5 in by the end of the week

[Benson]

They’ll be signings all week…

If the medicals are passed.

John Egan first in ?

[BigBadBarnes]

Come on guys and girls. Whilst some of the discussion on here about the debt of the club is great knowledge to read... Let's try and keep this thread on topic.

The debt of the club is intrinsically linked to the transfer window activity. A thread for discussing the ransfer window is naturally going to have the debt talked about too

[Oldparkwood]

Finger's crossed two in today and around a total of 4 or 5 in by the end of the week

I hope you are correct... Can't see it myself as there are absolutely no rumours of substance..... Unless I've missed something?

[Cooclaret]

John Egan first in ?

Likely but one article might beat it.

[Shaggy]

Has Coolclaret forgot to log in to his other account.

[ClaretAL]

Nothing we have not heard already but decent goal video in the report.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnl ... -johnston/

[Oldparkwood]

The debt of the club is intrinsically linked to the transfer window activity. A thread for discussing the ransfer window is naturally going to have the debt talked about too

I tried to say it in a polite manner. ...Just read the title of the thread. I would say it's pretty self explanatory and has no reference to the finances of the club. No issue discussing it just on a separate thread.

[CoolClaret]

Has Coolclaret forgot to log in to his other account.

?

Just one account for me - please make sure you're not confusing me for another poster with one less letter in their username than me...