Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[summitclaret]

Likely but one article might beat it.

I hope you are joking. What a statement that would be. The new Dale Stevens era beckons.

We need pace and guile up the pitch.

[Somethingfishy]

If the first two signings are Jack Cork and John Egan i think we can be prepared for a meltdown

[BigBadBarnes]

I tried to say it in a polite manner. ...Just read the title of the thread. I would say it's pretty self explanatory and has no reference to the finances of the club. No issue discussing it just on a separate thread.

So discussing the financial reasons as to why we have to sell x, or why we can't buy y isn't allowed in a transfer window discussion thread?
I know some don't like talking money, but it's the driving factor behind transfer window activity and it's near impossible for finance not to be mentioned as part of these conversations.

[RVclaret]

Is centre half going to be the 2024 summer windows version of 2023s wingers? Why the heck do we need Egan now after signing 2 centre backs this week and having a plethora in the background?

[jedi_master]

Egan and Cork filling in a squad that is going to probably have about three spaces left after outgoings?

[MDWat]

Hasn’t LongsideClaret already said there won’t be anymore centre halves coming in, unless we get mega money for Esteve?

[burnley007]

John Egan first in ?

If we sign John Egan thinking it solves ANY of our problems, we might as well give up.

[alwaysaclaret]

Is centre half going to be the 2024 summer windows version of 2023s wingers? Why the heck do we need Egan now after signing 2 centre backs this week and having a plethora in the background?

Maybe SP's philosophy now is to sign anyone he can get, considering the fact that what's going on within the club isn't going to attract very many, of course it's certainly not the answer but I've got a feeling Egan can also play cm, could simply be a case of numbers.

[Somethingfishy]

Al Dakhil going Stuttgart for 9m according to Fabrizio. Done deal.

[RVclaret]

Al-Dakhil deal done for €9m. Takes our income from player sales to £105m at the low end to £120m at the high end.

[Somethingfishy]

Maybe the philosophy is now to sign players nobody else will want to prevent this happening again

[Grimsdale]

Hasn’t LongsideClaret already said there won’t be anymore centre halves coming in, unless we get mega money for Esteve?

He also said Egan had been training with us for a couple of days but a deal looked unlikely earlier this month.

Similarly Parker said there was nothing to report on the Mikey Johnston links.

[Grimsdale]

Newcastle have reopened talks with Burnley for goalkeeper James Trafford.

Newcastle prefer a loan deal with an obligation.

https://x.com/JacobsBen/status/1827995552811762063

[randomclaret2]

Al-Dakhil deal done for €9m. Takes our income from player sales to £105m at the low end to £120m at the high end.

Just astonishing , and more to come it would seem. And some want no discussion of the club's finances on this thread...

[Somethingfishy]

Newcastle have reopened talks with Burnley for goalkeeper James Trafford.

Newcastle prefer a loan deal with an obligation.

https://x.com/JacobsBen/status/1827995552811762063

Loan deals with obligations. Just a way of massaging FFP and cash flow.

[RVclaret]

Newcastle have reopened talks with Burnley for goalkeeper James Trafford.

Newcastle prefer a loan deal with an obligation.

https://x.com/JacobsBen/status/1827995552811762063

Completely ridiculous to sell our number 1 keeper.

[taio]

Al-Dakhil deal done for €9m. Takes our income from player sales to £105m at the low end to £120m at the high end.

These figures seem on the high side but obviously more sales expected this week to at least bridge the gap.

[NewClaret]

Al-Dakhil deal done for €9m. Takes our income from player sales to £105m at the low end to £120m at the high end.

Incredible destruction of squad value really.

Although I do think they’ve got good valuations, by and large. Some of the prize assets could’ve gone for more, but overall every fee has been pretty good.

Have to imagine that Trafford, Amdouni and Benson could push that to ridiculous levels.

[Jakubs Tash]

Newcastle have reopened talks with Burnley for goalkeeper James Trafford.

Newcastle prefer a loan deal with an obligation.

https://x.com/JacobsBen/status/1827995552811762063

The ONLY way this might work for us is if they send someone our way on loan. Someone who will walk into our starting XI. If not, tell them to do one.

[randomclaret2]

Loan deals with obligations. Just a way of massaging FFP and cash flow.

I'm sure we'll do our best to oblige and help them out

[morninbob]

Sasha say Al dakhil will be more than 9m.

[JimmyRobbo]

Is centre half going to be the 2024 summer windows version of 2023s wingers? Why the heck do we need Egan now after signing 2 centre backs this week and having a plethora in the background?

Wise words.

Some equally astute posters have already alluded to this pattern.

A week is a long time in transfer window, as we've just witnessed.

[RVclaret]

These figures seem on the high side but obviously more sales expected this week to at least bridge the gap.

Kompany 10-13
Muric 10-15
Odobert 30
BPF 0.5
Vigouroux 0.5
Twine 3.5-4
O’Shea 15-17
Berge 20-25
Zaroury 7-7.7
Al-Dakhil 7-8m

£103.6-120.5m

[Somethingfishy]

The ONLY way this might work for us is if they send someone our way on loan. Someone who will walk into our starting XI. If not, tell them to do one.

Longstaff would be a good replacement for Berge

[summitclaret]

If we still need to sell and/or convince debtors of future income streams, then Trafford would be a better option if we cam keep Kolo, Esteve and Amdouni.

[kentonclaret]

At least any incomings over the next 5 days will show what level of ambition, if any, the hierarchy of the club have left for the rest of this season and beyond.

[randomclaret2]

Kompany 10-13
Muric 10-15
Odobert 30
BPF 0.5
Vigouroux 0.5
Twine 3.5-4
O’Shea 15-17
Berge 20-25
Zaroury 7-7.7
Al-Dakhil 7-8m

£103.6-120.5m

Presumably we also got a fee for Gudmundsson ?

[PremierLeagueClass]

To those still with us come the weekend, it must be extremely unsettling to see so many of your colleagues leave. I think in any workplace it would give a feeling of being left behind. Strong characters coming in are a must. I think we’ve got one in Worrall, we will need a few more.

[jos]

Talksport just mentioned that Trafford is leaving.

[taio]

Kompany 10-13
Muric 10-15
Odobert 30
BPF 0.5
Vigouroux 0.5
Twine 3.5-4
O’Shea 15-17
Berge 20-25
Zaroury 7-7.7
Al-Dakhil 7-8m

£103.6-120.5m

When you specifically said 'player sales' I assumed that you wouldn't have included compensation for Kompany. It appears you are including add-ons. The £120.5m figure is inflated. We've also had to pay transfer fees eg Tresor, Esteve. Nevertheless, the volume of player sales by the end of this week will be revealing.

[Guller Bull]

Ameen gone?

https://www.getfootballnewsgermany.com/ ... al-dakhil/

[RVclaret]

Presumably we also got a fee for Gudmundsson ?

Yep £1m, missed that one!

When you specifically said 'player sales' I assumed that you wouldn't have included compensation for Kompany. It appears you are including add-ons. The £120.5m figure is inflated. We've also had to pay transfer fees eg Tresor, Esteve. Nevertheless, the volume of player sales by the end of this week will be revealing.

Yeah you are right I should have said player sales + Kompany. The idea of my numbers is ranging them from base fee to add ons from what’s been reported the best I can.

[Guller Bull]

Newcastle back for Traff?
https://talksport.com/football/2022092/ ... -transfer/

[daveisaclaret]

Trafford going is fine, maybe a little concern that he's been picked over Hladky so far but clearly we've already placed him.

Al-Dakhil doesn't feel so good but there's probably never been a Championship team that turns down £9 million for someone who wouldn't get in their team.

[alwaysaclaret]

Kompany 10-13
Muric 10-15
Odobert 30
BPF 0.5
Vigouroux 0.5
Twine 3.5-4
O’Shea 15-17
Berge 20-25
Zaroury 7-7.7
Al-Dakhil 7-8m

£103.6-120.5m

Problem is I doubt this will come of the debt, more likely to be in ALK bank account, debt stays with the club does it not, and continues to rise.

[kentonclaret]

Looks as though all of the news over the next couple of days will be mainly outgoings with any incomings left for the final day(s) of the window.

[gandhisflipflop]

Problem is I doubt this will come of the debt, more likely to be in ALK bank account, debt stays with the club does it not, and continues to rise.

How can you possibly know this? Where is any evidence that ALK have been taking money from player sales previously?

[Jakubs Tash]

Longstaff would be a good replacement for Berge

Ha! Yeah….and Almiron, right?!

Being realistic maybe someone like Targett the left back? I’m not sure Pires is particularly up to it and we could do with some additional strength on that position too.

[taio]

Trafford going is fine, maybe a little concern that he's been picked over Hladky so far but clearly we've already placed him.

Al-Dakhil doesn't feel so good but there's probably never been a Championship team that turns down £9 million for someone who wouldn't get in their team.

It's going to be the aggregated effect of the number of players sold by the end of the window that's the overriding concern. The fees we are getting are reasonable - so those who refer to 'fire sale' are using an inappropriate term. Out of all the squad the sale of Trafford for good money made most sense at the start of the transfer window..

[gandhisflipflop]

Ha! Yeah….and Almiron, right?!

Being realistic maybe someone like Targett the left back? I’m not sure Pires is particularly up to it and we could do with some additional strength on that position too.

Hasn’t he got 3 assists in 3 gamesv

[BurnleyFC]

In isolation, I would’ve thought it would make sense to get rid of Trafford, but now it just reeks of desperation.

[Murger]

Who was the youngster that broke through at Newcastle last season? I haven’t seen him involved in the opening 2 games.

[Somethingfishy]

Who was the youngster that broke through at Newcastle last season? I haven’t seen him involved in the opening 2 games.

Miley?

[Bordeauxclaret]

Who was the youngster that broke through at Newcastle last season? I haven’t seen him involved in the opening 2 games.

Lewis Miley. Injured at the moment.

[burnley007]

Who was the youngster that broke through at Newcastle last season? I haven’t seen him involved in the opening 2 games.

They sold him to Forest.
Anderson

[Murger]

Miley?

Yep. Think he’d have been ideal.

[midlands claret]

https://www.getfootballnewsgermany.com/ ... al-dakhil/

[alwaysaclaret]

How can you possibly know this? Where is any evidence that ALK have been taking money from player sales previously?

Well I can't. But how do you explain £230m of debt. Where's that come from. Club had money in the bank before this lot took over.

[Jakubs Tash]

Hasn’t he got 3 assists in 3 gamesv

He got two at Luton. Not sure where you get the other from.

Besides which I don’t base my opinion purely on stats. He looks weak defensively, made numerous bad decisions v Sunderland, his touch has looked way off it - he just doesn’t look up to the level that might help this team challenge at the top.

Of course, I’m not writing him off. Just merely suggesting that we need someone to challenge him in that position and I’ve not been convinced by him in the first three games. Some supporters seem to get carried away with certain players because of their nationality……

[midlands claret]

https://the72.co.uk/2024/08/26/newcastl ... d-revived/