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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by dandeclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:57 pm

Athletic via Adam Leventhal, just tweeted that Trabsonspor have offered 4m euros for Brownhill, on a 4 year deal, with significantly improved terms on his salary.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:57 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:56 pm
I'd rather maximise our chances of automatic promotion by signing quality and then cross that bridge in the summer.
I wouldn’t call Solomon quality personally

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Post by Steddyman » Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:58 pm

Burnley fans complaining about Burnley signing players from the Premier League rather than League 1 the last time we were in the Championship.

I would be gutted if Koleosho left. If the money is silly though, perhaps it lets us build an even stronger squad, but time is running out for that now.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:58 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:54 pm
Hannibal is a loan with an obligation to buy
If it’s a loan that changes things because he would have to he registered in the 25 man squad, one less space for other targets

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Post by Swizzlestick » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:01 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:57 pm
I wouldn’t call Solomon quality personally
You have some strange internal metrics for player evaluation then. Did brilliantly for Fulham in the PL and was in and around the Spurs first Xi.

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Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:01 pm

D8BFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:45 pm
What if the players who are rumoured to be going this week have said “ we don’t want to be here! “

Would we be saying the same then?
This is a big part of my thinking right now also. We can go on and on on here about the club flogging off our best assets and demanding that we hold them to their contracts, but surely a large part of all this that has to be players agitating for a move and believing they're too good for the championship. Once players make that clear, there's not a lot you can do other than start trying to solicit higher bids!
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Post by midlands claret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:06 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:57 pm
I’d sooner have players that want to play for us. No point otherwise.
Parker knows Anthony.
i wish that the rest would realise that most of the sales are down to this and there contracts that said they could go if the got relegated.
Dont think that any of the burnley board would have just got rid if they did not have there hands tied.
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Post by ervi34 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:06 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:57 pm
I’d sooner have players that want to play for us. No point otherwise.
Parker knows Anthony.
Surely that means he wants to play for Parker? Just like bunch of others wanted to play for Kompany.
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Post by cmobfc » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:09 pm

Anthony under Parker. Outstanding numbers.
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Post by mybloodisclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:10 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:26 pm
What difference does naming them on up the clarets make? Could all be b*llocks anyway
Could be b****** but, Fabio now reporting Hannibal medical and Sacha Tav reporting, all 3, Sarmiento, Hannibal and Anthony.

They get their info from somewhere. Whether it is someone on here who shares the info on X and it gets picked up and shared. This info is then available to our rivals and provides them an opportunity to hijack the deals. We can ill afford that at this time.

I think we can all agree that LongsideClaret has been extremely accurate with the information they have shared... and I am very grateful for their insight. LC quite rightly doesn't always provide their names until its just about done.

Of course there are other sources of info. It was just a view that I pondered.

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Post by ksrclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:14 pm

I like the 3 players we’re apparently close to signing, but it does feel like we’re building a team to compete in the Championship for a few years above anything else.

Before we sold everyone, I think we had a team who would win promotion and then with a few key additions and better tactics, make a good fist of surviving.

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Post by Casper2 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:14 pm

What was the point going to Spain for preseason bonding etc , absolute joke .
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Post by GetIntoEm » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:15 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:14 pm
I like the 3 players we’re apparently close to signing, but it does feel like we’re building a team to compete in the Championship for a few years above anything else.

Before we sold everyone, I think we had a team who would win promotion and then with a few key additions and better tactics, make a good fist of surviving.
We certainly didn't think that when we signed them. Apart from Maatsen most were an unknown quantity

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:15 pm

D8BFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:45 pm
What if the players who are rumoured to be going this week have said “ we don’t want to be here! “

Would we be saying the same then?
You may have hit the nail on the head. It felt after the Sunderland game, and following news of the Whats App message that went to the wrong people, that a number of players wanted out. Also some may have signed up because of VK and have since his departure said they wanted to go.
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Post by ksrclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:17 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:15 pm
We certainly didn't think that when we signed them. Apart from Maatsen most were an unknown quantity
I’m talking about the players we’ve just sold, most of which were bought for a PL season.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:17 pm

Alex crook saying Anthony is a loan and then 10m if we get promoted, now I like Anthony but I think 10m is an extremely high fee

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Post by claretskeith » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:19 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:17 pm
Alex crook saying Anthony is a loan and then 10m if we get promoted, now I like Anthony but I think 10m is an extremely high fee
To be fair 10m is no longer classed as a big fee. We spent more on Tresor.

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Post by agreenwood » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:20 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:17 pm
Alex crook saying Anthony is a loan and then 10m if we get promoted, now I like Anthony but I think 10m is an extremely high fee
If he’s helped us get promoted, it’s worth it?

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Post by Goody1975 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:21 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:17 pm
Alex crook saying Anthony is a loan and then 10m if we get promoted, now I like Anthony but I think 10m is an extremely high fee
Not saying it's incorrect but remember this is Alex Crook.
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Post by LongsideClaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:21 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:17 pm
Alex crook saying Anthony is a loan and then 10m if we get promoted, now I like Anthony but I think 10m is an extremely high fee
It’s an obligation on promotion, an option that would likely not be exercised if we stayed down.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:21 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:19 pm
To be fair 10m is no longer classed as a big fee. We spent more on Tresor.
But when you factor in Humphreys is a loan with 12m if we go up, Anthony 10m if we go up, Hannibal Likely to be similar, in theory we are committing ourselves to 30m of next seasons budget if we go up

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Post by Boxy » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:22 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:20 pm
If he’s helped us get promoted, it’s worth it?
Alex crook is also well known to be all over place. I have seen rumours soloman has failed his leeds medical

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:22 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:21 pm
It’s an obligation on promotion, an option that would likely not be exercised if we stayed down.
I still think 10m is extremely high

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Post by D8BFC » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:22 pm

Think we need to give Trafford and Amdouni some credit compared to a few of them who have left last week and will this week…

They may think they are better than the championship deep down, but haven’t acted like some others (who people are wetting their pants over) in this past week or so.

This needs a clean slate - which is exactly what’s happening!
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Post by agreenwood » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:22 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:21 pm
It’s an obligation on promotion, an option that would likely not be exercised if we stayed down.
Are all three signings loans?

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:23 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:21 pm
But when you factor in Humphreys is a loan with 12m if we go up, Anthony 10m if we go up, Hannibal Likely to be similar, in theory we are committing ourselves to 30m of next seasons budget if we go up
Are you suggesting that the board are being short-termist?

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:23 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:17 pm
Alex crook saying Anthony is a loan and then 10m if we get promoted, now I like Anthony but I think 10m is an extremely high fee
Not if you get to the magic land
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Post by ClaretAL » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:23 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:21 pm
But when you factor in Humphreys is a loan with 12m if we go up, Anthony 10m if we go up, Hannibal Likely to be similar, in theory we are committing ourselves to 30m of next seasons budget if we go up
Spurs just spent that on 1 of our players and Ipswich on 2 of ours.
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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:24 pm

Loaning players with an obligation to buy will always mean a higher fee is paid than would be the case with an outright purchase, because the terms of the deal are favouring the buyers otherwise.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:26 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:23 pm
Are you suggesting that the board are being short-termist?
I’m suggesting they still aren’t learning but it doesn’t surprise me

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Post by Murger » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:26 pm

So Hannibal and Anthony are initially loans? It doesn’t really disprove the theory that we’re selling everyone coz we’re up **** creek.

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:27 pm

Can't believe this Board at times. Plenty of posters wanting Jack Cork back as a player, claiming Jayrod can still do a job, and describing JBG as our messiah when he recently signed. Then we look like signing 3 players,who all look good, and in positions required , two of which are on loan with option to buy, and all they can do is to be critical about all 3 before they have put the shirt on.
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Post by brazilianclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:27 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:19 pm
To be fair 10m is no longer classed as a big fee. We spent more on Tresor.
but less than we got for anass

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Post by claretskeith » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:27 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:21 pm
But when you factor in Humphreys is a loan with 12m if we go up, Anthony 10m if we go up, Hannibal Likely to be similar, in theory we are committing ourselves to 30m of next seasons budget if we go up
I get what you are saying, but I also think we're a million miles from definitely going up. I'd take promotion and paying that 30m. We look a long way from a top 2 finish imo.

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Post by burnley007 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:27 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:14 pm
What was the point going to Spain for preseason bonding etc , absolute joke .
Very very true.
Total waste of time.

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Post by Murger » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:28 pm

I wonder if LongsideClaret can let us know if we’re in for any strikers?

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:28 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:27 pm
I get what you are saying, but I also think we're a million miles from definitely going up. I'd take promotion and paying that 30m. We look a long way from a top 2 finish imo.
Well yeah because the owners will sell them anyway

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Post by ervi34 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:29 pm

D8BFC wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:22 pm
Think we need to give Trafford and Amdouni some credit compared to a few of them who have left last week and will this week…

They may think they are better than the championship deep down, but haven’t acted like some others (who people are wetting their pants over) in this past week or so.

This needs a clean slate - which is exactly what’s happening!
I don't want to jinx it, but for me, Esteve looks like a top professional. There's surely been an interest from some top teams, but he keeps his head down, plays, and actually looks like he likes it here. He will probably leave in the next few windows, but there's captain material there.
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Post by CoolClaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:31 pm

Murger wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:26 pm
So Hannibal and Anthony are initially loans? It doesn’t really disprove the theory that we’re selling everyone coz we’re up **** creek.
& that we're committing to buy as we're backed into a corner, need incomings and the selling clubs can kinda have our pants down with the fees...

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Post by Ziggy Stardust » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:31 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:27 pm
Very very true.
Total waste of time.
Perhaps you can let us know next time before this all happens again, two weeks before it happens. The club has to get the players fit regardless of whose coming and going pre-season. It the basics for every club that ever existed. The fact you can't recognise this simple fact is telling.

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Post by claretskeith » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:32 pm

ervi34 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:29 pm
I don't want to jinx it, but for me, Esteve looks like a top professional. There's surely been an interest from some top teams, but he keeps his head down, plays, and actually looks like he likes it here. He will probably leave in the next few windows, but there's captain material there.
Hasn't he only officially signed for us? Was a loan then buy during the summer. So we surely wouldn't consider selling him anyway.

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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:32 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:27 pm
Can't believe this Board at times. Plenty of posters wanting Jack Cork back as a player, claiming Jayrod can still do a job, and describing JBG as our messiah when he recently signed. Then we look like signing 3 players,who all look good, and in positions required , two of which are on loan with option to buy, and all they can do is to be critical about all 3 before they have put the shirt on.
I personally struggle to get enthused by any signings at the moment because the chances are I’ll see them in a Burnley shirt about 15 times, if at all, before they’re sold or return to their parent club. The fact that some supporters gush over the likes of Cork, Rodriguez and JBG should really tell its own story.

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Post by Mattster » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:32 pm

Agreeing to pay more for Anthony than we received for Zaroury is just terrible business, no matter how you spin it
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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:33 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:27 pm
I get what you are saying, but I also think we're a million miles from definitely going up. I'd take promotion and paying that 30m. We look a long way from a top 2 finish imo.
They'd probably try and sell second place if they could

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Post by ClaretAL » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:35 pm

Mattster wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:32 pm
Agreeing to pay more for Anthony than we received for Zaroury is just terrible business, no matter how you spin it
That depends on which Zaroury you remember? Great in our Champions season, but probably deflated after the VK knock back as he didn't pull up any trees last year, and didn't in his cameo this year. Add to that he might have asked to leave being so demoralised at what the club has done to him, then what we got was reasonable, we would all like it to have been more.
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Post by LongsideClaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:38 pm

Murger wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:26 pm
So Hannibal and Anthony are initially loans? It doesn’t really disprove the theory that we’re selling everyone coz we’re up **** creek.
Think all 3 will be loans. Albeit Hannibal will have an obligation regardless of division.

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Post by Boxy » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:39 pm

One thing to remember with loan to buys. It helps PSR for both teams. Wouldnt shock me if thats why when signing this players from prem

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Post by CoolClaret » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:39 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:35 pm
That depends on which Zaroury you remember? Great in our Champions season, but probably deflated after the VK knock back as he didn't pull up any trees last year, and didn't in his cameo this year. Add to that he might have asked to leave being so demoralised at what the club has done to him, then what we got was reasonable, we would all like it to have been more.
At least be consistent. Look at Anthony's last season with Leeds, 1 goal in 31 apps... That isn't the point either. The point is that this type of business shows how scattergun this 'project' has been all along.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by burnley007 » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:39 pm

Ziggy Stardust wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:31 pm
Perhaps you can let us know next time before this all happens again, two weeks before it happens. The club has to get the players fit regardless of whose coming and going pre-season. It the basics for every club that ever existed. The fact you can't recognise this simple fact is telling.
The fact you need to be rude is very telling.
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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Goliath » Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:39 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2024 2:32 pm
I personally struggle to get enthused by any signings at the moment because the chances are I’ll see them in a Burnley shirt about 15 times, if at all, before they’re sold or return to their parent club. The fact that some supporters gush over the likes of Cork, Rodriguez and JBG should really tell its own story.
3 full internationals. Jack Cork especially is a special player and would be a fine addition on a free. If you saw Massengo and Brownhills completely lack of ability in terms of receiving the ball against Sunderland when pressed and progressing it effectively then you surely are aware of this.

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