Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[TheFamilyCat]

You’d think the 3 Medical’s from yesterday would be announced today.

As long as they are in the building, training and registered in time for Saturday I don't really care when they're announced.

[Cooclaret]

It can happen on a smaller scale but you don't get that many players unhappy, it just doesn't happen!... What we have done with the sheer amount of outgoings is pretty much unprecedented after going down... NOBODY here or anywhere predicted it at the start of the summer!...

Transfer teams that are on top of it, don't release players before securing like-for-like replacements and they certainly don't remove the core in such a short space of time, leaving you with a depleted team with a defender playing as a striker, and also with 2 goalkeepers and kids on the bench!...

They also don't sell experience like Guðmundsson if there is unrest, they do everything to keep him, even if it means offering a coaching role... And why sell Twine if all the 10s are going?...

Add to the fact that Estève, Brownhill and Parker all made it obvious in post-match interviews recently after the last game that they are not happy with the board in how they are handling it, it is pretty obvious to anyone, that they have made a pig's ear of it...

On your last point... Anyone who thinks there are articles ready other than guesswork is naive but anyone thinking what we have done is "good business" is beyond naive... It is also not what they have done but mainly how they have done it!

Twine, isn’t good enough and hasn’t proven himself good enough in the opportunities he’s had in this league.

JBG, the club respect him, and they respect his service. If he’s been offered a bumper pay package that we couldn’t hope to match then he went with our good blessings and thanks.

You cannot underestimate the negative impact Kompany has had on the squad and the club. Many players might have thought that they’ll come back and give it a go, but with big offers on the table, and offers from other ‘projects’ they’ve rightly wanted to go.

Show me a player, that’s gone that shouldn’t have? They’ve either gone because they weren’t good enough, we could maximise our return, or they’ve been given leave to go as a mark of respect.

The board have consistently been open and honest about their model, its inline with the model BFC has always had, and its progressive.

In regards to the the articles, I’m sure they’re ready, and I’m sure we’ll be happy.

[Cooclaret]

In behind a solid, robust, experienced and organised defence he will be a top keeper, he's never had that here,the poor sod was hung out to dry by Kompany. Solid back fours are the foundation all teams are built on alas not in Kompany's world.

Exactly this! His ceiling is high, he will be Englands next #1

[Tricky Trevor]

Because they probably saw what I did, terrible tactics by VK. Muric got more wrong last Saturday than JT did all last season.

Rubbish. He had errors in all his early games and it is more than likely the defence in front of him lost confidence that he was up to it. Bricked himself every time a dead ball delivery was coming in. There’s a good keeper in him but not yet.

[midlands claret]

Stuttgart agree Al-Dakhil deal with Burnley - Sky in Germany
Stuttgart have agreed a deal with Burnley to sign Ameen Al-Dakhil, according to Sky in Germany.

The Bundesliga side will pay a fee of about £6.4m (€7.5m) for the defender.

Pending a medical, the 22-year-old will sign a contract until 2028

[fatboy47]

Exactly this! His ceiling is high, he will be Englands next #1

You've clearly seen things I haven't. Or you've never read the story of the Emporer's New Clothes.

[Ric_C]

Exactly this! His ceiling is high, he will be Englands next #1

This is like the Emperor's new clothes. What is everyone seeing in Trafford to make people think he will be England's number 1? I would be delighted if we could sell him for a decent chunk, and re-invest that money in a few additions, (or keep Koleosho and Amdouni)

[Pearcey]

Stuttgart agree Al-Dakhil deal with Burnley - Sky in Germany
Stuttgart have agreed a deal with Burnley to sign Ameen Al-Dakhil, according to Sky in Germany.

The Bundesliga side will pay a fee of about £6.4m (€7.5m) for the defender.

Pending a medical, the 22-year-old will sign a contract until 2028

Bit gutted about this one. Thought he looked good in the championship but he obviously wants away. Not surprising with the amount of centre halves we have I guess.

[Cooclaret]

You've clearly seen things I haven't. Or you've never read the story of the Emporer's New Clothes.

Bet?

[scamander]

I think Brighton fans disagree with that … they just have too much in that area

Hopfully he can come in and do a job for us

UTC

That's what my mate says (Brighton fan). Deemed a very good player but behind what they have there currently. I think he could do well for us.

[Blyclaret]

I totally disagree regarding Trafford.
In game V Cardiff he was very lucky on 2 occasions he flapped at crosses … doing same as previous year in premier … only different standard in premier was much higher.
Don’t rate the chat at all. I will drive him to Newcastle if he’s stuck for a lift

[Sapperclaret73]

He didnt play against cardiff

[Blyclaret]

Sorry Luton

[Blyclaret]

Come on you know what I mean

[NewClaret]

Bit gutted about this one. Thought he looked good in the championship but he obviously wants away. Not surprising with the amount of centre halves we have I guess.

Yes, looked an excellent prospect.

Differing reports on fee but think we got more for him than being reported. Doesn’t make me feel any better about losing a top prospect though.

[Hapag Lloyd]

I totally disagree regarding Trafford.
In game V Cardiff he was very lucky on 2 occasions he flapped at crosses … doing same as previous year in premier … only different standard in premier was much higher.
Don’t rate the chat at all. I will drive him to Newcastle if he’s stuck for a lift

You’d probably end up in Plymouth.

[Blyclaret]

I would put Trafford barely championship standard. … possibly another year in league one with a top 3 club.

[nil_desperandum]

I totally disagree regarding Trafford.
In game V Cardiff he was very lucky on 2 occasions he flapped at crosses … doing same as previous year in premier … only different standard in premier was much higher.
Don’t rate the chat at all. I will drive him to Newcastle if he’s stuck for a lift

Given that Trafford didn't even play against Cardiff, I think it's fair to say that you have something of an agenda against him.
The jury's still out for me.

[bfcjg]

https://x.com/TheSportsman/status/18281 ... q8QMA&s=19
Good goal. Hope our set piece coach allows such flair.

[Sapperclaret73]

A season in the championship would do Trafford’s career a world of good in my opinion.

On Al-dakil, really gutted on losing him. Willbe a big player in time

[Blyclaret]

You’d probably end up in Plymouth.

No need to get offensive … just because you disagree.

[Blyclaret]

No agenda I just put wrong team down. How or why would I have something against him

[warksclaret]

https://x.com/TheSportsman/status/18281 ... q8QMA&s=19
Good goal. Hope our set piece coach allows such flair.

Big step up on Josh Brownhills free kicks

[Hipper]

Yes, looked an excellent prospect.

Differing reports on fee but think we got more for him than being reported. Doesn’t make me feel any better about losing a top prospect though.

Maybe Al Dakhil is not such a top prospect as we think. There's not a great deal of evidence for it I suggest, more wishful thinking.

In the case of Trafford, He clearly has (perhaps I should say had) attributes to be a good goalkeeper. Unfortunately the damage caused to him last season, expecting a 20 year old rookie to play in front of at times a shambles of a defence against the best teams looks tough to repair. There were rumours that he had it in his contract to play 30 games in the first team. My guess is it's more likely that VK and club policy dictated that he should play until the hoped for improvements would occur so that some profit could be made on his transfer at the end of that season. At some point it was realised that these improvements weren't happening and he was dropped, probably doing more damage to Trafford.

Now we have a goalkeeper, who, although overall not playing badly against Luton, still had the usual frailties. It looks like it will take a while and some good coaching to get him up to the levels he should be. I think it's best for him he try another team (although effectively perhaps, that's what we are this season!).

[Burnley Ace]

Let’s hope that it’s Dr Ivan doing his medical!!

[dermotdermot]

La de da. At least the message board is back on this morning.

[123EasyasBFC]

Does anyone know the rules for registration for league cup games, is it like the league 12pm the day before? Wondering if any of the new signings will be registered for tomorrow

[NewClaret]

Maybe Al Dakhil is not such a top prospect as we think. There's not a great deal of evidence for it I suggest, more wishful thinking.

In the case of Trafford, He clearly has (perhaps I should say had) attributes to be a good goalkeeper. Unfortunately the damage caused to him last season, expecting a 20 year old rookie to play in front of at times a shambles of a defence against the best teams looks tough to repair. There were rumours that he had it in his contract to play 30 games in the first team. My guess is it's more likely that VK and club policy dictated that he should play until the hoped for improvements would occur so that some profit could be made on his transfer at the end of that season. At some point it was realised that these improvements weren't happening and he was dropped, probably doing more damage to Trafford.

Now we have a goalkeeper, who, although overall not playing badly against Luton, still had the usual frailties. It looks like it will take a while and some good coaching to get him up to the levels he should be. I think it's best for him he try another team (although effectively perhaps, that's what we are this season!).

Re: Al Dakhil, time will tell. I think he’ll be a top, top player when he bulks out a bit. Genuinely would’ve come straight in for O’Shea for me.

Re: Trafford, I don’t believe any club would sign up to a minimum appearance clause. I suspect we owed an additional installment if he played more than 75% of games and since we were crashing out of the division we probably didn’t want to pay it. That’ll have left him hacked off and Muric knowing he was only reinstated to save the club a few quid. Basically annoying them both. Just a mess all round in that scenario. Either way, he shouldn’t have been left in so long. Awful management by Kompany.

[Ric_C]

Reading between the lines, it looked like last season we signed a lot of players who only wanted to play for VK or in the premier league or both.

At the same time hacking off players who helped get us up the previous season. Hence many disgruntled players wanting to leave. Who could've seen this happening?

[Pearcey]

Who could've seen this happening?
[/quote]

Kompany I’d imagine.

[JR1882]

I said Mejbri
You’re gonna be the one that saves me
And after allllll
Youre my Hanniballlll

[spt_claret]

Don't let facts get in the way of your story... SP has come and said that is the reason, so presumably you know better than him. Some posters just cant wait to have a dig at the club for some reason.

1- no manager, especially one so early into a tenure, is going to come out and say "We're having to sell these players because the financial situation is worse than expected/the club's creditors have cashed in earlier than expected". That signals to potential investors not to invest, current investors that there's panic and to cash out, is a public criticism of your boss's management, and signals to other clubs to undercut fees because we're desperate. "they don't want to be here" is the only possible party line. All last season we were fed party lines by Kompany, people on here got told to shut up and trust his word, M2B2 showed otherwise. I don't blame Parker for saying what he says, regardless of if it's true or not it's the stance he has to take in public.

2- 2 games ago Parker said how Wout got a game because he's been so committed, hard working and professional. Gudmundsson came back seeming sincerely happy to be staying. All of a sudden both have decided they don't want to be here and Parker also decided he won't accept that. I can accept Gudmundsson being persuaded by a unexpected offer but Weghorst was being linked elsewhere while Parker was praising his attitude and professionalism. Doesn't add up with the current "If you don't want to be here, leave" narrative.

Furthermore, putting out an image that all's well, anything unusual is bad apples or nothing to worry about, and nothing is ever your fault, is a hallmark attitude of big finance, they bullshit to your face while their actions say otherwise. I can't believe anyone trusts implicitly the word of anybody from a big American finance background, especially Lehman Brothers and Citibank, especially post 2008.

[Shaggy]

I think the reason no one has come in for Trafford is that no one rated him at the ridiculous amount we paid for him.

He needs to prove he’s even championship level yet. So far 2 games he’s played and 2 goals conceded along with the massive flap against Luton ( again )

He’s a hype job.

Al-Dahkil- again thought he was good in moments 2 years ago. Very quick but lacks a lot of physicality and defensive positioning. I think we have a lot better in front of him and letting him go is the correct option.

[Djs254]

@longsideclaret. Appreciate the news on the three upcoming signings. Is there anything you know/think we are also involved in from an incomings point of view.

[TonbridgeClaret]

I said Mejbri
You’re gonna be the one that saves me
And after allllll
Youre my Hanniballlll

Blimey! That's really good!

[NewClaret]

I think the reason no one has come in for Trafford is that no one rated him at the ridiculous amount we paid for him.

He needs to prove he’s even championship level yet. So far 2 games he’s played and 2 goals conceded along with the massive flap against Luton ( again )

He’s a hype job.

Al-Dahkil- again thought he was good in moments 2 years ago. Very quick but lacks a lot of physicality and defensive positioning. I think we have a lot better in front of him and letting him go is the correct option.

Re: Trafford, I don’t disagree he’s got some learning to do. Newcastle have come in for him though, made at least one offer, and will likely do so again before the window closes.

[Blyclaret]

Let SP do his job with the likes Worrall … and 3 new players. Get some team spirit going. The more of his players that come in the better.

[claretspice]

Re: Al Dakhil, time will tell. I think he’ll be a top, top player when he bulks out a bit. Genuinely would’ve come straight in for O’Shea for me.

Re: Trafford, I don’t believe any club would sign up to a minimum appearance clause. I suspect we owed an additional installment if he played more than 75% of games and since we were crashing out of the division we probably didn’t want to pay it. That’ll have left him hacked off and Muric knowing he was only reinstated to save the club a few quid. Basically annoying them both. Just a mess all round in that scenario. Either way, he shouldn’t have been left in so long. Awful management by Kompany.

Regarding Al Dakhil - I'm a huge fan but I think it was quite evident we needed experience in the back four and Al-Dakhil doesn't offer that. Worrall does.

The other point is that it would appear we are not going to hold as high or aggressive line this season as under Kompany. It looks as though we're going to retreat more out of possession and back ourselves to defend the box. That plays less to Al-Dakhil's great strength (pace) and puts a greater emphasis on defending the box, which is where he's got most to learn/develop (positionally and physically). Worrall played in precisely this set up under Cooper at Forest so is a natural fit.

I think the departure of AAD is a great shame and I do think that over 3-4 years, rather than 18 months, he might have made a much higher return for us. That's my criticism of the summer overall. But I don't think AAD sensibly fitted in as first choice this season.

[criminalclaret]

Reading between the lines, it looked like last season we signed a lot of players who only wanted to play for VK or in the premier league or both.

I don't meant to sound disrespectful but how on earth do you think they ended up here in the first place? Surely you can't just be working that out now? These players have been scouted far and wide from Europe, they have never, ever heard of Burnley or had any intention of playing for us until VK came and / or we were in the PL. And that's fair enough.

When I choose a new employer, I'm doing it from what it can offer me and what I can give to them. If things then start going a bit south in the workplace, some employee's stay and knuckle down through the mire, good percentage more they start filling out of their CV's. This is absolute no different in this case.

If we were consistent in any division, we'd have a lot more settled squad. Promotion and relegation to the PL sadly we have to make these changes which means the top ones we tempt in during the good days will go during the bad days.

[Jakubclaret]

1- no manager, especially one so early into a tenure, is going to come out and say "We're having to sell these players because the financial situation is worse than expected/the club's creditors have cashed in earlier than expected". That signals to potential investors not to invest, current investors that there's panic and to cash out, is a public criticism of your boss's management, and signals to other clubs to undercut fees because we're desperate. "they don't want to be here" is the only possible party line. All last season we were fed party lines by Kompany, people on here got told to shut up and trust his word, M2B2 showed otherwise. I don't blame Parker for saying what he says, regardless of if it's true or not it's the stance he has to take in public.

2- 2 games ago Parker said how Wout got a game because he's been so committed, hard working and professional. Gudmundsson came back seeming sincerely happy to be staying. All of a sudden both have decided they don't want to be here and Parker also decided he won't accept that. I can accept Gudmundsson being persuaded by a unexpected offer but Weghorst was being linked elsewhere while Parker was praising his attitude and professionalism. Doesn't add up with the current "If you don't want to be here, leave" narrative.

Furthermore, putting out an image that all's well, anything unusual is bad apples or nothing to worry about, and nothing is ever your fault, is a hallmark attitude of big finance, they bullshit to your face while their actions say otherwise. I can't believe anyone trusts implicitly the word of anybody from a big American finance background, especially Lehman Brothers and Citibank, especially post 2008.

With how easy some people seem to believe what they are told at the drop of a hat any would be salesperson harvesting sensitive data from this site would in treat for a treasure trove.

[BigChaCha]

Twine, isn’t good enough and hasn’t proven himself good enough in the opportunities he’s had in this league.

JBG, the club respect him, and they respect his service. If he’s been offered a bumper pay package that we couldn’t hope to match then he went with our good blessings and thanks.

You cannot underestimate the negative impact Kompany has had on the squad and the club. Many players might have thought that they’ll come back and give it a go, but with big offers on the table, and offers from other ‘projects’ they’ve rightly wanted to go.

Show me a player, that’s gone that shouldn’t have? They’ve either gone because they weren’t good enough, we could maximise our return, or they’ve been given leave to go as a mark of respect.

The board have consistently been open and honest about their model, its inline with the model BFC has always had, and its progressive.

In regards to the the articles, I’m sure they’re ready, and I’m sure we’ll be happy.

You just don't get it, do you?... It's about managing a squad properly, the timing of the sales and playing hardball with buyers... Are you saying Twine would be worse than playing a depleted team and worse than the kids on the bench in the last game At the very least, he should not have been sold until the backend of the transfer window, if not until January depending on our stocks... It is just mismanagement, plain and simple... It is basic business common-sense staff management, never mind running a football club... The only reason for the sale and especially the timing of the sale is that we must be desperate for cash!...

On your JGB comment... Yeah, so much respect between the two parties that he was dumped at the end of the season It was down to a money grab on both sides, plain and simple!...

Pretty much NO OTHER TEAM, in the history of the league, have removed 20+ players from a squad on relegation like it is looking like we are going to do!... It is looking like it will be UNPRECEDENTED!...

Is the model to leave two goalies and kids on the bench and play a defender as a striker upfront?...

Is the model to see the manager and players criticise them in interviews like we have just seen?...

Is the model to patronise fans on Twitter like we have just seen?...

Is the model designed to cause unrest among the fans?...

Is the model to have the most feared team in the league to have a team 3 games later that won't even get in the playoffs?...

Look, I'm still an Alan Pace fan over the long term but I don't know anyone with a decent amount of cerebral matter who thinks he and his transfer team have done well this summer or even last summer!... They can pull it back somewhat in the next few days, which they need to so that they claw back some much-needed credibility!

[Hedontplayforyou]

I said Mejbri
You’re gonna be the one that saves me
And after allllll
Youre my Hanniballlll

Well played

[billyhamilton82]

For me the jury is out with Sarmiento. Yes he has skill … tricky but for Brighton and other clubs he hasent really shown anything. A bench warmer at best coming on in last 10 minutes type player for me.

Seriously

He hasn't even officially signed yet, let alone kicked a ball for us and the jury is already out.

If he scores a hat trick on Saturday. will that help?

[warksclaret]

A few weeks ago I felt the club would really struggle to get our squad down to the right size-what a difference 10 days has made. WE could see over 20 departures. There have been some sad departures-Odobert, Berge, O Shea for me have been hard to take, but we have shown we can play hard ball, and have brought in some good fees. The moving of many has been the right thing to do, some through lack of ability, others through lack of desire to play for our club-these are major negatives that stood in Parkers way to mould a good spirited team. The club has acted swiftly in bringing in two centre halves, meaning McNally can now go this week, plus we have a warrior to replace the sadly departed O Shea. We also seem to have brought in two good wide men, one of which is known to our manager. And we may Just have bought in a younger version of Joey Barton with Hannibal. I am sure there may be one or two more to come in-maybe midfield and a striker. I wont lose sleep if Wout,Tresor, Trafford and Benson leave, but am starting to get a lot more confident we can hold on to Koleosho and Brownhill. If that happens then I think we can once again look forward to the season with the sort of revived confidence we saw after our first two victories. One question though where the hell is Del-crock

[criminalclaret]

Pretty much NO OTHER TEAM, in the history of the league, have removed 20+ players from a squad on relegation like it is looking like we are going to do!... It is looking like it will be UNPRECEDENTED!...

The hyperbole is enormous with some on here.

This season we have sold the same amount of players as Leeds (8) and 3 of those were fringe players. We've made profit on those 6 of those 8. The rest have gone because they weren't going to get in the team OR they want to be elsewhere (JBG, presumably Wout by the weekend).

Please verify your figures before crying like babies - https://www.transfermarkt.us/fc-burnley ... erein/1132

[claretburns]

Stuttgart agree Al-Dakhil deal with Burnley - Sky in Germany
Stuttgart have agreed a deal with Burnley to sign Ameen Al-Dakhil, according to Sky in Germany.

The Bundesliga side will pay a fee of about £6.4m (€7.5m) for the defender.

Pending a medical, the 22-year-old will sign a contract until 2028

Not enough game time here and Stuttgart are in the Champions League this season aren't they? Can't blame him wanting the move.

[criminalclaret]

Pretty much NO OTHER TEAM, in the history of the league, have removed 20+ players from a squad on relegation like it is looking like we are going to do!... It is looking like it will be UNPRECEDENTED!...

Leeds had 25 departures in their relegation year - https://www.transfermarkt.us/leeds-unit ... verein/399

[Ric_C]

I don't meant to sound disrespectful but how on earth do you think they ended up here in the first place? Surely you can't just be working that out now? These players have been scouted far and wide from Europe, they have never, ever heard of Burnley or had any intention of playing for us until VK came and / or we were in the PL. And that's fair enough.

When I choose a new employer, I'm doing it from what it can offer me and what I can give to them. If things then start going a bit south in the workplace, some employee's stay and knuckle down through the mire, good percentage more they start filling out of their CV's. This is absolute no different in this case.

If we were consistent in any division, we'd have a lot more settled squad. Promotion and relegation to the PL sadly we have to make these changes which means the top ones we tempt in during the good days will go during the bad days.

Never heard of Burnley? The same Burnley with 6 consecutive seasons in the biggest league in the world? Yeah right

[jojomk1]

For me the jury is out with Sarmiento. Yes he has skill … tricky but for Brighton and other clubs he hasent really shown anything. A bench warmer at best coming on in last 10 minutes type player for me.

Looks to have been that way for the last two seasons when on loan at WBA then Ipswich (making sub appearances rather than starts), neither of whom tried to sign him on a permanent basis

Sounds like the new Benson

[Guller Bull]

Rovers rivals?

https://therealefl.co.uk/2024/08/27/bla ... r-pursuit/