Anyone else feeling completely disconnected from our club

[GetIntoEm]

Any chance of just posting the information?

I couldn't find it

[Row x]

Any chance of just posting the information?

I've just read it. Not worth the effort. Basically she wasn't listened to

[TheFamilyCat]

For a lot of people the football club is everything.

The King of Hyperbole strikes again.

[TheFamilyCat]

I've just read it. Not worth the effort. Basically she wasn't listened to

I could have a good guess who it was. In what respect does she claim she wasn't listened to?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Any chance of just posting the information?

https://x.com/francescalynn23/status/18 ... cYMQnkX92A

[willsclarets]

I don't feel disconnected, just livid.

[JohnMcGreal]

First summer - exodus of players for free or cheap
Numerous people had spent the previous season or two complaining the age of the squad was too high
So the club did a huge overhaul
It was needed then

To sit and complain about it is just moronic

Last summer, they tried to improve the quality of the squad and shift on those they didn’t think would make it

Perfectly normal

This time round, we’ve got players who want to stay in the PL
We’ve got others who quite possibly aren’t viewed as good enough and are being moved on

Both things are normal

Our business model is buy low, develop and sell higher

We can’t have players stagnating here, so they’ll be moved on

It’s business, it’s about generating money via a sensible transfer policy, refreshing the squad and keeping us competitive

The long term aim is to be in the PL for a decent period of time, but then to be buying better players to flip for bigger money, similar to Brighton but with much less debt to owners (4-500 million for them so far)

If we hadn’t lost the other day, most of you wouldn’t be flapping like this, let’s be honest here

[ClaretTony]

I don't feel disconnected, just livid.

I’ve felt disconnected for some time and now I’m just trying to get my head round what’s happening.

[ŽižkovClaret]

Whats the opposite of a club being financially doped?

[BleedingClaret]

Just an excuse to start another negative thread

GetIntoEm wrote: ↑
Complete nothing statement, what does it even mean

Are you two an item

[SPC&G]

I'm officially disconntected: The old wifi password that I'd nabbed from the directors box has been changed meaning I can no longer sneakily access their wifi inside the ground.

The old password, you ask?

Kompany2024

What’s the betting on Parker 2025

[Casper2]

How dramatic. Followed by loads of cucks praising her. She ain't gonna shag ya lads

She’s suffering from mental issues including anxiety

[Elizabeth]

I think you can feel completely disconnected from your club at times in your life and I know I've had spells going back some decades when I wasn't even bothered looking for our results. That all changed.
I would question anybody who feels good about the enormity of recent events and I suspect for many that revolves around the financial uncertainty. It may work out but until it does rather than feel disconnected I will continue to feel uncomfortable.
I strongly reject those who reference the current state of affairs with the transfer policy the club have always followed going back to the sixties. We are a club whose fans were always giving the opportunity to watch our saleable players for a few seasons before they were sold. That is why they are so fondly remembered.
I also reject the opinion that we should get used to what has happened regarding recent player sales. I'm confident that those who feel like that will soon find themselves isolated.

[deanothedino]

trafford....nowhere near class at this young age , if we can get money back its a great deal

The lad won a U21 Euros without conceding and City have a £40m+ buyback but some guy who can't use capitals right thinks he's a poor keeper and just getting our money back would be good business

[ŽižkovClaret]

Even playing Devil's Advocate, the absolute best i can do is they are thinking clear out the Kompany era, leave us enough to not get relegated, and rebuild from the Jan window onwards.

Because otherwise, it's hard to refute the asset stripper accusations

[Stayingup]

I posted about disconnect but in retrospect I think it's more like disappointments at selling our best players. The one's that would bring in the most money. We have always been a selling club. I remember my father in law stopped going to matches when tge great Jimmy Nac was sold- out of the blue. Back then there were few overseas players in the league and no billionaire or state funded clubs and no American budinessmen owners. Burnley must have had a great scout in the North East with players they git and nurtured and eventually sold that were geordies. I don't know the state of the finances but I guess it's not a good picture given the number of players signed by our last manager - who.must have breathed a big sigh of relief when Bayern hired him after last seasons disaster. And so we are angry but must stick by the club and hope we can survive and prosper again

[Stayingup]

I posted about disconnect but in retrospect I think it's more like disappointments at selling our best players. The one's that would bring in the most money. We have always been a selling club. I remember my father in law stopped going to matches when tge great Jimmy Nac was sold- out of the blue. Back then there were few overseas players in the league and no billionaire or state funded clubs and no American budinessmen owners. Burnley must have had a great scout in the North East with players they git and nurtured and eventually sold that were geordies. I don't know the state of the finances but I guess it's not a good picture given the number of players signed by our last manager - who.must have breathed a big sigh of relief when Bayern hired him after last seasons disaster. Now reality has kicked in our ass

[Stayingup]

I posted about disconnect but in retrospect I think it's more like disappointments at selling our best players. The one's that would bring in the most money. We have always been a selling club. I remember my father in law stopped going to matches when tge great Jimmy Nac was sold- out of the blue. Back then there were few overseas players in the league and no billionaire or state funded clubs and no American budinessmen owners. Burnley must have had a great scout in the North East with players they git and nurtured and eventually sold that were geordies. I don't know the state of the finances but I guess it's not a good picture given the number of players signed by our last manager - who.must have breathed a big sigh of relief when Bayern hired him after last seasons disaster. And so we are angry but must stick by the club and hope we can survive and prosper again

[Stayingup]

I posted about disconnect but in retrospect I think it's more like disappointments at selling our best players. The one's that would bring in the most money. We have always been a selling club. I remember my father in law stopped going to matches when tge great Jimmy Nac was sold- out of the blue. Back then there were few overseas players in the league and no billionaire or state funded clubs and no American budinessmen owners. Burnley must have had a great scout in the North East with players they git and nurtured and eventually sold that were geordies. I don't know the state of the finances but I guess it's not a good picture given the number of players signed by our last manager - who.must have breathed a big sigh of relief when Bayern hired him after last seasons disaster. Now reality has kicked in our ass

[Stayingup]

I posted about disconnect but in retrospect I think it's more like disappointments at selling our best players. The one's that would bring in the most money. We have always been a selling club. I remember my father in law stopped going to matches when tge great Jimmy Nac was sold- out of the blue. Back then there were few overseas players in the league and no billionaire or state funded clubs and no American budinessmen owners. Burnley must have had a great scout in the North East with players they git and nurtured and eventually sold that were geordies. I don't know the state of the finances but I guess it's not a good picture given the number of players signed by our last manager - who.must have breathed a big sigh of relief when Bayern hired him after last seasons disaster. Now reality has kicked in our ass

[CoolClaret]

The worst bit about it all is that to the sensible fans/posters it was pretty clear that the 'project' last summer was idiotic... we just didn't think that it'd result in this - this is unprecedented territory in football. I cannot think of another club in history that has effectively signed a brand-new XI and then sells them all the next summer.

[Stayingup]

I posted about disconnect but in retrospect I think it's more like disappointments at selling our best players. The one's that would bring in the most money. We have always been a selling club. I remember my father in law stopped going to matches when tge great Jimmy Nac was sold- out of the blue. Back then there were few overseas players in the league and no billionaire or state funded clubs and no American budinessmen owners. Burnley must have had a great scout in the North East with players they git and nurtured and eventually sold that were geordies. I don't know the state of the finances but I guess it's not a good picture given the number of players signed by our last manager - who.must have breathed a big sigh of relief when Bayern hired him after last seasons disaster. Now reality has kicked in our ass

Oops didn't get to finish this and somehow got posted.

[Devils_Advocate]

I think Mr Pace is playing a blinder on the quiet here and a couple of seasons down the line gonna be quite a few posters eating humble pie with egg on their face.

Mr Pace obviously recognised the mess we had been left in by Dyche and that we were at risk of sinking like a stone and being in real trouble. He managed to get Kompany in as an interim stepping stone to overhaul the squad in a way that not only got us promoted but saw us make some amazing profits on players.

Mr Pace now realises we are a lot more stable so he is rightly giving Parker a couple of seasons to rebuild the squad and invest in a create a strong group of players capable of getting up and staying up

Dont be fooled, we will still look to utilise our brilliant scouting system to bring in some young talent that can quickly become stars and/or turn a healthy profit but this time it will be balanced with more proven players.

I think this could be a genius strategy and will give us two solid years in this division enjoying winning football before eventually hitting the Premier League with a squad, manager and owner ready to ruffle some feathers.

Fot the first time this summer I am genuinely starting to think its once again exciting times!!

[Casper2]

I think Mr Pace is playing a blinder on the quiet here and a couple of seasons down the line gonna be quite a few posters eating humble pie with egg on their face.

Mr Pace obviously recognised the mess we had been left in by Dyche and that we were at risk of sinking like a stone and being in real trouble. He managed to get Kompany in as an interim stepping stone to overhaul the squad in a way that not only got us promoted but saw us make some amazing profits on players.

Mr Pace now realises we are a lot more stable so he is rightly giving Parker a couple of seasons to rebuild the squad and invest in a create a strong group of players capable of getting up and staying up

Dont be fooled, we will still look to utilise our brilliant scouting system to bring in some young talent that can quickly become stars and/or turn a healthy profit but this time it will be balanced with more proven players.

I think this could be a genius strategy and will give us two solid years in this division enjoying winning football before eventually hitting the Premier League with a squad, manager and owner ready to ruffle some feathers.

Fot the first time this summer I am genuinely starting to think its once again exciting times!!

Pathetic

[Clive 1960]

I'm not disconnected even though i don't go on the Turf as I'm living abroad what i will say in supporting the club for well over 50 years i have never come across it being so bad in terms of what's been going on of the pitch, players not knowing if they are coming or going also rumours of players not wanting to play, i really feel for Scott Parker as he must be finding it hard, just hope come Saturday we can get a team out with these new signings when they come and we can give it a real go against them lot down the road.. UTC

[forzagranata]

Never been clearer than now that the soul of our club is found in the supporters - and no-one else.

Managed for two years by a man who was in it for himself and nothing else. Majority of players he brought in cared nothing for the club.

Owned for now by speculators.

[evensteadiereddie]

No it's still the same club playing at the same ground in the same colours.
I think the owners are doing a fantastic job securing the future of the club.
But then again I don't need to have the club as a critical part of my, life I have family, a job, and a great matchday experience.
If you don't like the show, change the channel, but please stop the negative posts or get some counselling about your unhealthy relationship with the club.
You and the rest of us are just insignificant data points on a spreadsheet, all the club needs from us is to sell overpriced food, drink, and shirts.

An excellent post, Brexit.
Those of us who followed BFC in the Bob Lord era , especially, appear to have a much healthier perspective .
I'm dreading the drive up to the game on Saturday and, tbh, fear the worst but it'll be interesting either way. It's not going tomake an awful lot of difference to me.

[morpheus2]

I'm feeling pretty disconnected, season ticket still hasn't turned up

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think Mr Pace is playing a blinder on the quiet here and a couple of seasons down the line gonna be quite a few posters eating humble pie with egg on their face.

Mr Pace obviously recognised the mess we had been left in by Dyche and that we were at risk of sinking like a stone and being in real trouble. He managed to get Kompany in as an interim stepping stone to overhaul the squad in a way that not only got us promoted but saw us make some amazing profits on players.

Mr Pace now realises we are a lot more stable so he is rightly giving Parker a couple of seasons to rebuild the squad and invest in a create a strong group of players capable of getting up and staying up

Dont be fooled, we will still look to utilise our brilliant scouting system to bring in some young talent that can quickly become stars and/or turn a healthy profit but this time it will be balanced with more proven players.

I think this could be a genius strategy and will give us two solid years in this division enjoying winning football before eventually hitting the Premier League with a squad, manager and owner ready to ruffle some feathers.

Fot the first time this summer I am genuinely starting to think its once again exciting times!!

Make it less obvious, good cast though

[morpheus2]

Make it less obvious, good cast though

C'mon, he has to live up to his name..

[willsclarets]

I’ve felt disconnected for some time and now I’m just trying to get my head round what’s happening.

Things have changed massively. I think what we have now is closer to the experience most fans do unfortunately.

You'd better get your head round it quick Tony, you've got 23 articles to write!

[burnleymik]

First summer - exodus of players for free or cheap
Numerous people had spent the previous season or two complaining the age of the squad was too high
So the club did a huge overhaul
It was needed then

To sit and complain about it is just moronic

Last summer, they tried to improve the quality of the squad and shift on those they didn’t think would make it

Perfectly normal

This time round, we’ve got players who want to stay in the PL
We’ve got others who quite possibly aren’t viewed as good enough and are being moved on

Both things are normal

Our business model is buy low, develop and sell higher

We can’t have players stagnating here, so they’ll be moved on

It’s business, it’s about generating money via a sensible transfer policy, refreshing the squad and keeping us competitive

The long term aim is to be in the PL for a decent period of time, but then to be buying better players to flip for bigger money, similar to Brighton but with much less debt to owners (4-500 million for them so far)

If we hadn’t lost the other day, most of you wouldn’t be flapping like this, let’s be honest here

If they were doing all this at the start of the transfer window I doubt anyone would be really flapping, well maybe a few, but the understandable worry is when there are a couple of days left in the transfer window and you are letting this many first team players leave. Concern is fair.

Parker has no time to even gel in any new players if they do manage a surge of recruitment. Add that to the obvious discontent it would cause within the squad and all the other issues around that, it is exactly what it looks like...... chaos.

[Papabendi]

Humble pie and egg on their face. That sounds like someone who has catering on their mind.

[Casper2]

An excellent post, Brexit.
Those of us who followed BFC in the Bob Lord era , especially, appear to have a much healthier perspective .
I'm dreading the drive up to the game on Saturday and, tbh, fear the worst but it'll be interesting either way. It's not going tomake an awful lot of difference to me.

Why bother driving up to the game

[claretonthecoast1882]

This connection that some felt before but no longer do what was it ?

Most people I know go to games because they support the club, only on here have I heard this trend of "I feel disconnected" what happened previously that was different and made you feel connected ?

[Row x]

This connection that some felt before but no longer do what was it ?

Most people I know go to games because they support the club, only on here have I heard this trend of "I feel disconnected" what happened previously that was different and made you feel connected ?

I've never seen that explained

[Foshiznik]

This connection that some felt before but no longer do what was it ?

Most people I know go to games because they support the club, only on here have I heard this trend of "I feel disconnected" what happened previously that was different and made you feel connected ?

My assumption would be the community feel, feeling a part of that community, not feeling like a number or customer, having some stake in the club, relating to the players (although that would be hard at any club), etc.

[mikeS]

Massive changes have gone on at the club in a relatively short space of time. The change to foreign owners and casting off what the club did for pretty much over a century or more. Half the staff leaving to be replaced by interns. The way in which Sean Dyche left the club after a decade of stability which saw the club play in Europe. The euphoria of winning the championship followed by the Horrible season last year. Vincent Kompany leaving and a new manager who probably hasn't had a say in any of the multiple transfers out, losing the spine of what started the season as a strong side. In the space of three weeks that has mostly disappeared. Scott Parker now must wonder what the hells going on and who he will have left come Saturday.
I've never known so much turmoil in the club.

[evensteadiereddie]

Why bother driving up to the game

Because I want to see what should be a pretty interesting game.

[Rileybobs]

This connection that some felt before but no longer do what was it ?

Most people I know go to games because they support the club, only on here have I heard this trend of "I feel disconnected" what happened previously that was different and made you feel connected ?

A connection to the manager and players who represent the club. A feeling that everyone associated with the club is pulling in the same direction and giving their maximum effort to achieve on-pitch success. Supporting a team of players who would ‘run through walls’ for each other. Watching people develop and improve as players of Burnley Football Club. Supporting a club that punches above its weight and a team that is greater than the sum of its parts. Having leaders on the pitch who act with bravery and commitment. Having players who understand the importance of resonating with the supporters - Tarkowski smashing a gobby Richarlison, Barnes pushing Kaminski into the net, Tella sticking 4 fingers up to the Rovers defender, Trippier doing a chicken dance at Ewood. Dean Marney.

[Burnleybabe]

Yes I do, but to be fair have done for a while.
Why did anyone who went on the FAB really think they would be listened to is beyond me.
They had to have one, and IMO was only lip service.
From day one ALK refused to communicate with the Supporters groups.
Who again IMO had a far better idea what fans were really feeling, and their opinions.
They like to promote that we are all in this together, but I don't believe any of their hype.
They are in our football Club for themselves and not the good of the Club or its fans.

[JohnMac]

Buy, develop and sell on is a good policy to adopt and the proof is Wilson Odobert. My concern now is the other players going out the door with, it appears, very little in terms of players to develop coming in.

The common sense approach of little and often seems lost in a chaotic scattergun madness!

Once the window closes and out and in is finalised it will be a clearer picture if we are still following that model or not.

In terms of disconnect? Not really as Football hasn't been part of the real world since the mid 1960's.

[Row x]

Buy, develop and sell on is a good policy to adopt and the proof is Wilson Odobert. My concern now is the other players going out the door with, it appears, very little in terms of players to develop coming in.

The common sense approach of little and often seems lost in a chaotic scattergun madness!

Once the window closes and out and in is finalised it will be a clearer picture if we are still following that model or not.

In terms of disconnect? Not really as Football hasn't been part of the real world since the mid 1960's.

Fans felt connected possibly in the days when players went to the game on the bus, lived in the same street as fans, drunk in the same pubs, like you say that died in the 60s
How fans think they have some sort of connection nowadays confuses me.

[CoolClaret]

A connection to the manager and players who represent the club. A feeling that everyone associated with the club is pulling in the same direction and giving their maximum effort to achieve on-pitch success. Supporting a team of players who would ‘run through walls’ for each other. Watching people develop and improve as players of Burnley Football Club. Supporting a club that punches above its weight and a team that is greater than the sum of its parts. Having leaders on the pitch who act with bravery and commitment. Having players who understand the importance of resonating with the supporters - Tarkowski smashing a gobby Richarlison, Barnes pushing Kaminski into the net, Tella sticking 4 fingers up to the Rovers defender, Trippier doing a chicken dance at Ewood. Dean Marney.

I'll add to this -

Having player/end of season awards and other events of that nature in Manchester facilitated no doubt through some 'associate' etc basically be Burnley Football Club, not a sanitised/vanilla football club that is indistinguishable from the next one that just so happens to play home games in Burnley.

[Stproc]

100% disconnected now.
The only thing that matters now in football is money, greed has overtaken everything else. We have an ownership that’s only interested in getting as much money out of the club as they can, players that will take the cash and then run when the going gets tough. But the fans are left behind.
This Club is at the centre of our community and by doing what Pace and his cohort are doing they are destroying this link.
I woke up this morning wondering if I could cancel my direct debits as the product I signed up to is no longer what’s on offer, I will look into this but seeing as money is involved I have no hope whatsoever.
We have been a club and team that are so far ahead of our near or neighbours for many years now and in the space of two weeks we’ve been dragged so far down we’re probably below them now in the pecking order and they haven’t got any better!
So yes, I am really struggling to feel any connection with this shower at the moment

[CaptainKirk]

Cancel my direct debits!!!
God, there is some over reactions going on here.
We spent a lot to buy a lot, but then got relegated.
Some players will immediately look for an exit, others will need to be moved on to balance the books and some will be shifted out because they turned out to be not good enough.
It happens every time a Club gets relegated - how many did we lose last time?

Those leaving will be replaced, which has already started and then we crack on.
Our role is to turn up and, hopefully, enjoy the ride.
I have been going on since before they sold Ralph Coates (just after my mum stitched his name into my first ever scarf).
Since then there has been an endless list of fan favourites come and gone.
Life goes on!
"They have sold Jimmy Mac - ooo I'm never going on again"
"I feel disconnected"!
"They don't "get" my Club"!
Man up, people.
Once we buy 3 more replacements, and beat Blackburn at the weekend, you will all calm down again.

[burnleymik]

Cancel my direct debits!!!
God, there is some over reactions going on here.
We spent a lot to buy a lot, but then got relegated.
Some players will immediately look for an exit, others will need to be moved on to balance the books and some will be shifted out because they turned out to be not good enough.
It happens every time a Club gets relegated - how many did we lose last time?

Those leaving will be replaced, which has already started and then we crack on.
Our role is to turn up and, hopefully, enjoy the ride.
I have been going on since before they sold Ralph Coates (just after my mum stitched his name into my first ever scarf).
Since then there has been an endless list of fan favourites come and gone.
Life goes on!
"They have sold Jimmy Mac - ooo I'm never going on again"
"I feel disconnected"!
"They don't "get" my Club"!
Man up, people.
Once we buy 3 more replacements, and beat Blackburn at the weekend, you will all calm down again.

You are missing one critical point.... we are two weeks into the season when all this is happening and it's all happening at once with almost zero time to find solutions.

There are definitely some over reactions, but it's nowhere near as routine as you are making it sound either.

[brexit]

For a lot of people the football club is everything. And as you have perfectly described the club no longer cares about there community we are all just numbers on a spreadsheet.

Not everyone can “change the channel” like you suggest.

Coincidently I noticed a member of the FAB has pulled out tonight and has listed some pretty damning reasons as to why.

I agree, but this forum is not representative of the fan base which by and large are more pragmatic.
When we get beaten on Saturday, this board will be in an even bigger meltdown.

[CaptainKirk]

You are missing one critical point.... we are two weeks into the season when all this is happening and it's all happening at once with almost zero time to find solutions.

There are definitely some over reactions, but it's nowhere near as routine as you are making it sound either.

It is happening now because of the transfer window which is out of our control.
Happens every year and Clubs like ours do our deals at the end of each window.
I wish the window closed when the Season starts, but it doesn’t.

[jurek]

I've supported Burnley for the best part of 60 years if not more
even though I very rarely manage to get to many games now.
The word/phrase I might best use or have done in the past is
'an umbilical cord' which has been attached since my dad took me
to the Turf way back in 1960/61.

But at present I feel like someone has a pair of scissors and is
doing their best to sever that cord and sadly I don't feel as if there's
much I can do about it apart from observe what they are doing.

It's sad and bloody painful.

But part of me thinks it's inevitable and unrealistic to think otherwise.

Such is life.