Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Newcastleclaret93]

If you’re worried about whether Laurent comes close to replacing the quality we’ve let out the door, DO NOT READ THE OATCAKE FORUM.

It will not make you fell better.

At absolute best the lad is low end championship midfielder. If he’s coming in as back up I’m not particularly fussed. If he’s coming into replace one of Cullen or Brownhill then it’s a disaster

[JohnDearyMe]

Don't worry everyone, Alan Pace can't explain our transfer approach at the moment but if you knew you would be saying 'oh my goodness, this is incredible'

[cblantfanclub]

Sell the club? You're forgetting it took Garlic years and a lot of financial shenanigans to get a sale - when we were in the premiership. There's no way they can think we'll just sell up in the summer as recent evidence is no one is chomping at the bit to buy Burnley. They have made a bed they are going to have to lie in.

[jedi_master]

Now that there are actual rumours of signings, most are still trying to take an angle that fits their agenda. I'm far from pleased with what's going on, but some of the stuff thrown at the club and Pace at the minute is pathetic. As usual, most are relishing in the negativity.

Not a single person is relishing watching Burnley sell Muric, Berge, Amdouni, Al-Dakhil, O’Shea, Twine, Odobert, Zaroury, Gudmundsson (and possibly Brownhill, Koleosho and Foster) and trying to sign Josh Laurent with the funds. I promise you. Pace deserves any criticism he gets at the moment as long as it sticks to his stewardship of the club and not personal.

[Hedontplayforyou]

At absolute best the lad is low end championship midfielder. If he’s coming in as back up I’m not particularly fussed. If he’s coming into replace one of Cullen or Brownhill then it’s a disaster

But what about the “bed wetting” folk keep banging on about

[NickBFC]

I don't get the point in shipping someone like Bastien out if we're signing plodders like Laurent. Unless Bastien also wanted out. None of this makes any sense at all - I can only think we are absolutely up the creek financially at this stage.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Not a single person is relishing watching Burnley sell Muric, Berge, Amdouni, Al-Dakhil, O’Shea, Twine, Odobert, Zaroury, Gudmundsson (and possibly Brownhill, Koleosho and Foster) and trying to sign Josh Laurent with the funds. I promise you. Pace deserves any criticism he gets at the moment as long as it sticks to his stewardship of the club and not personal.

He’s managed to retweet the Hannibal video a few minutes ago

[JR1882]

What if you've achieved what you've already set out to do & don't have the necessary funding required to bankroll another promotion.

Or if you didn’t spent any money to buy us, walking away with 100m+ would represent great business. Ask Mike Garlic.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Not a single person is relishing watching Burnley sell Muric, Berge, Amdouni, Al-Dakhil, O’Shea, Twine, Odobert, Zaroury, Gudmundsson (and possibly Brownhill, Koleosho and Foster) and trying to sign Josh Laurent with the funds

That just reinforces the post you quoted.

If we were just trying to sign this Laurent I’d understand but it conveniently misses out the other players we have signed and are clearly trying to sign.

It’s a worrying time but cherry picking information to make it sounds worse doesn’t do anyone any good.

[123EasyasBFC]

Club hanging onto the Anthony announcement to try and appease the fans with the lack of incoming links tomorrow

[jedi_master]

That just reinforces the post you quoted.

If we were just trying to sign this Laurent I’d understand but it conveniently misses out the other players we have signed and are clearly trying to sign.

It’s a worrying time but cherry picking information to make it sounds worse doesn’t do anyone any good.

How does it? Do you want me to add in that we tried to sign Morgan Whittaker by offering to take him on loan with an option to buy him? Hannibal is a good signing, nobody knows what’s going on with Anthony and Sarmiento. The Laurent news is clearly just the current topic of discussion.

[boyyanno]

This feels like Dale Stephens Mark 2- even the reaction from some is the same.

If it looks like a bad signing, smells like a bad signing, and sounds like a bad signing- Then it's a bad signing. For those that saying we'd need to sign a "captain" we don't. Other than being a body can anyone explain why they think this guy would even be a decent signing on a free?

We need to sign adequate players for the level we are at- this is not it. Given we're having to get rid of a shed load of fringe players I'm not convinced it makes sense to go and get more. We need quality, not just bodies.

[Bordeauxclaret]

How does it? Do you want me to add in that we tried to sign Morgan Whittaker by offering to take him on loan with an option to buy him? Hannibal is a good signing, nobody knows what’s going on with Anthony and Sarmiento. The Laurent news is clearly just the current topic of discussion.

Nobody knows what’s going on with any one of them. But there is a reason you’ve picked what on paper appears to be the most negative one and ignored the rest in your original post.

[jedi_master]

Nobody knows what’s going on with any one of them. But there is a reason you’ve picked what on paper appears to be the most negative one and ignored the rest in your original post.

I’d suggest the Whittaker one is the most negative due to inferring we are absolutely skint.

[Steddyman]

Club hanging onto the Anthony announcement to try and appease the fans with the lack of incoming links tomorrow

Or more likely, he's had cold feet and gone home.

[billyhamilton82]

Surely if we really want the guy we offer £8m plus Obafemi.

Or 8 mill up front plus 2m or Obafemi at the end of the saeson.

Not sure about the lad Laurent but it goes against our whole recruitment structure.

Maybe its just made up....hopefully.

[DCWat]

https://www.business-sale.com/news/admi ... e%20around.

Not sure of their current financial situation, I’d guess that they’re not rolling in cash…. But the article you’ve linked is 10 years old.

[Hedontplayforyou]

The Whittaker thing might be complete and utter nonsense ? The make up of the deal certainly sounds that way

[Mattster]

I've been pretty negative on our business but the Laurent signing is a decent one as long as he's just being brought in for depth. Cheap, experienced, leader and good presence in the dressing room that is cover across the midfield.

That's on the proviso he's not a replacement for Brownhill.

[Bordeauxclaret]

I’d suggest the Whittaker one is the most negative due to inferring we are absolutely skint.

No it doesn’t. The same way the Amdouni deal doesn’t mean Benfica are skint.
There is clearly creative accounting going on in most transfers nowadays. But again it’s something you’ve picked to be negative about, which is what the original post was calling out.

[Commy]

Are we now going to see Parkerball?

[midlands claret]

Not a single person is relishing watching Burnley sell Muric, Berge, Amdouni, Al-Dakhil, O’Shea, Twine, Odobert, Zaroury, Gudmundsson (and possibly Brownhill, Koleosho and Foster) and trying to sign Josh Laurent with the funds. I promise you. Pace deserves any criticism he gets at the moment as long as it sticks to his stewardship of the club and not personal.

will you be saying that when we get promotion?

[123EasyasBFC]

Or more likely, he's had cold feet and gone home.

It’s a done deal by all accounts and he’s trained already

[andyh]

Laurent would give us something different in midfield. I remember Huddersfield fans saying Arfield was useless and Tresor came with glowing references. I’d prefer to see them play for us first.

[DCWat]

I’m struggling to know if all of the sales are because of the fallout from the WhatsApp message, or if we are as desperate for cash as the sales suggest.

If the former, would we really have shifted on so many? If the latter, perhaps the former helped to speed up some exits.

Whatever it is - barring a miracle - this season has been flushed down the pan.

Alan loves this club, he’s all over every detail, trust the process - oh just **** off! He fell fortunate with Kompany in year one, since then, it’s been a catalogue of stupidity.

[123EasyasBFC]

No it doesn’t. The same way the Amdouni deal doesn’t mean Benfica are skint.
There is clearly creative accounting going on in most transfers nowadays. But again it’s something you’ve picked to be negative about, which is what the original post was calling out.

The difference is benfica is an obligation, where as Whittaker isn’t

[Big Vinny K]

Surely if we really want the guy we offer £8m plus Obafemi.

Or 8 mill up front plus 2m or Obafemi at the end of the saeson.

Not sure about the lad Laurent but it goes against our whole recruitment structure.

Maybe its just made up....hopefully.

Realistically let’s just offer
£10m straight cash or…..
£11m plus Obafemi

Take it or leave it !!

[Jakubs Tash]

Putting aside all of the other cash we brought in, would the Weghorst and Amdouni loan money not pretty much pay for Whittaker? It’s not like we’ll have to pay it all up front either.

If we want him, go and get him!

[Bordeauxclaret]

The difference is benfica is an obligation, where as Whittaker isn’t

You seriously think we’ve gone to Plymouth and said can we have your best player for this season but if we don’t go up you can have him back? Seriously?

[jedi_master]

No it doesn’t. The same way the Amdouni deal doesn’t mean Benfica are skint.
There is clearly creative accounting going on in most transfers nowadays. But again it’s something you’ve picked to be negative about, which is what the original post was calling out.

Can’t speak for Benfica’s finances but I thought that deal was terrible for us. I don’t see it speaking an opinion as negative, it’s just saying how I feel about what on paper looks like poor business this summer. The alternative is to lie or say nothing. We clearly disagree, and that’s fine. Like anybody else we can only judge how we look overall when we see the line up against Blackburn on Saturday.

[ralph8]

I find the hanging on to announcements as an insult to the fan base. Just get them announced as soon as they are done just like all the Clubs who have bought our players over the last few weeks.
The time for social media BS is not needed now, given the desperate situation we are in.

[Hedontplayforyou]

A coincidence I think on their forum, but I found this very funny.

[equinox]

Not sure of their current financial situation, I’d guess that they’re not rolling in cash…. But the article you’ve linked is 10 years old.

Sssshhh.

[Row x]

You seriously think we’ve gone to Plymouth and said can we have your best player for this season but if we don’t go up you can have him back? Seriously?

Most reports say Plymouth have said we haven't met their valuation
If it was the ridiculous loan option surely they would be saying the structure wasn't right or words to that effect, not just the valuation

[123EasyasBFC]

You seriously think we’ve gone to Plymouth and said can we have your best player for this season but if we don’t go up you can have him back? Seriously?

We can only go off the reports can’t we

[Steddyman]

We have already contracted Obafemi to Plymouth for a season long loan, with fee details agreed. We can't just rip up that contract and throw him in for a deal for Whittaker now. If we want him, offer the cash and get him. No time for other options.

[ecc]

Being reported by Football League World but haven’t a clue as to their authenticity or reliability.

Low reliability. Not as low as HITC but then that's off the scale.

[Vegas Claret]

shambles

[Commy]

Whittaker got 19 goals in a bad team last season.

[boyyanno]

If you’re worried about whether Laurent comes close to replacing the quality we’ve let out the door, DO NOT READ THE OATCAKE FORUM.

It will not make you feel better.

I actually did and it made me shudder.

[Conroy92]

I thought he was staying.

I'm genuinely gutted by this one.

Think Vitinho offered us a lot.

[Steddyman]

shambles

Perhaps that is why we are waiting to announce Anthony then.

[Marney&Mee]

200 pages!! 🪅 🪅

And still nothings happened…

[Steddyman]

Squad announcement going to be interesting in 10 mins. I wonder how many senior players we will see.

[jedi_master]

Vitinho leaving by my reckoning means we now need in the next 48 hours:

Striker
Striker
Winger
Winger
Left Back

[Conroy92]

Wonder if Pires and Sambo are thinking what the **** did we come to

[Newcastleclaret93]

Wonder if Pires and Sambo are thinking what the **** did we come to

Imagine being Humphrey’s coming from Chelsea.

He will defo have signed expecting to be in the prem next season.

[HollandsPies]

Wow, the club haven't half signed some mercenary two- hats.

[dandeclaret]

At absolute best the lad is low end championship midfielder. If he’s coming in as back up I’m not particularly fussed. If he’s coming into replace one of Cullen or Brownhill then it’s a disaster

We’ve had plenty of these, and guess what…. They’ve often turned out to be integral cogs in a TEAM….. Graham Alexander, Steven Thompson, David Jones, Scott Arfield….. all lower half champ at best, players who actually transformed the way the TEAM played.

If you’re going to grow precious roses, you need a load of soil
And manure….. rose bulbs don’t grow that well if they’re in a bag of bulbs.

Good to see a spine being built in the team…. keeper, Worrall, potentially this lad, add to the solidity that your flair players can go and play in.

I’m as frustrated as most with the sales and the mess, but to be negative about everything is a waste of energy.

[Mattster]

Wonder if Pires and Sambo are thinking what the **** did we come to

Would imagine Sambo is pretty happy, he's just moved up the pecking order.