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Re: Prediabetes

Post by Rowls » Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:44 am

mdd2 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:38 am
What Rowls says provided you not making eton mess and other carb rich puddings
True.

But the thing about faffy stuff like that is ... It's faffy.

Cooking chicken, rice & veg on the other hand is easy.

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Re: Prediabetes

Post by mdd2 » Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:49 am

dont forget fish especially oily variety.
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Re: Prediabetes

Post by Rowls » Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:51 am

Rowls wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:15 am
"I'll keep mine as simple as possible"
Sorry for the essay, having posted this. It's one of my bug bears.

I threw a wobbler at the TV the other night because it was advertising dome ridiculous powdered health drink.

Something bright green that you were advised to reconstitute and drink once a day. It looked awful but no doubt thousands of people are buying and drinking this spew on a daily basis.

The fact is that it won't be even a tiny fraction as good as frozen veg. And frozen veg is going to be a fraction of the price too.

If people insist in eating mushy food I suppose you could plop frozen veg into a blender but I find it all rather pointless when they go so well with meat, fish, rice, spuds etc.

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Re: Prediabetes

Post by Rowls » Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:53 am

BTW: The people with the best diets on the planet (normally the Japanese or the French or "the Mediterranean diet") all eat remarkably different diets.

The only thing they have in common is using whole ingredients and cooking from scratch.

If you're using raw, unprocessed ingredients for your meal.its very likely going to be a healthy one.

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Re: Prediabetes

Post by mdd2 » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:09 am

Rowls wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:53 am
BTW: The people with the best diets on the planet (normally the Japanese or the French or "the Mediterranean diet") all eat remarkably different diets.

The only thing they have in common is using whole ingredients and cooking from scratch.

If you're using raw, unprocessed ingredients for your meal.its very likely going to be a healthy one.
Pioppi diet but pancakes made with coconut flour not for me
However nuts good too walnuts 15g almonds 7.5g and hazelnuts 7.5g/day.
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Re: Prediabetes

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:42 am

Rowls wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:51 am
Sorry for the essay, having posted this. It's one of my bug bears.

I threw a wobbler at the TV the other night because it was advertising dome ridiculous powdered health drink.

Something bright green that you were advised to reconstitute and drink once a day. It looked awful but no doubt thousands of people are buying and drinking this spew on a daily basis.

The fact is that it won't be even a tiny fraction as good as frozen veg. And frozen veg is going to be a fraction of the price too.

If people insist in eating mushy food I suppose you could plop frozen veg into a blender but I find it all rather pointless when they go so well with meat, fish, rice, spuds etc.
Turning any food substance into liquid will mean it getting into your system far faster, which if any sugars are present will cause spikes.
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Re: Prediabetes

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:44 am

Intermittent fasting, daily movement and twice a week high-intensity exercise

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Re: Prediabetes

Post by mdd2 » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:45 am

Looking forward to my first meal later today after nothing only black coffee since 6pm last night.

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Re: Prediabetes

Post by LoveCurryPies » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:45 am

I was prediabetic for 10 years, then in February 2020 I had become diabetic (type 2). Alarm bells rang!!

I decided to diet and lost 4 stones (down to 11st 6lbs). That resulted in 32inch waist and 4 shirt sizes less.

Retested in August 2020, and I wasn’t even prediabetic anymore. Reversing diabetes can be done!

Check calories on everything you buy. For instance, you can buy bread 70cals per slice or up to 160 per slice.

Sounds like you don’t have much to lose, Steve. You can do it!
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Re: Prediabetes

Post by Quicknick » Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:04 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:45 am
I was prediabetic for 10 years, then in February 2020 I had become diabetic (type 2). Alarm bells rang!!

I decided to diet and lost 4 stones (down to 11st 6lbs). That resulted in 32inch waist and 4 shirt sizes less.

Retested in August 2020, and I wasn’t even prediabetic anymore. Reversing diabetes can be done!

Check calories on everything you buy. For instance, you can buy bread 70cals per slice or up to 160 per slice.

Sounds like you don’t have much to lose, Steve. You can do it!
Well done. What sort of curry pies clinched the transformation?

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Re: Prediabetes

Post by LoveCurryPies » Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:11 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:04 pm
What sort of curry pies clinched the transformation?

They would be the new lettuce and tomato curry pies. :lol:
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Re: Prediabetes

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Aug 30, 2024 4:19 pm

Thanks guys for all the advice it really looks like
Common sense
Exercise & good diet is the way to go I'm looking forward to the Challenge.
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Re: Prediabetes

Post by levraiclaret » Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:10 pm

ISorry for the late response, I have been classified as prediabetic twice , the first time over ten years ago, can't remember what steps I took to reverse it, probanly just extra steps.
The second time was in March 2923. this time I changed my diet, cut out fruit pies, biscuits, cake , ice cream ,honey, jam. I swapped Almond milk for mcows milk, sordough bread for whole grain bread, irish oats or rolled oats for porridge oats. I did not give up beer or oats. Our bodies convert oats to glucose ! I started dring Apple cider vinegar with lemon juice . water and a sweetner - Stevia. It tastes vile.
It w0rked by tne end of November 2023 I had a clear blood test and a second clear blood test in March 2024. two clear blood tests mean you are removed from the pre diabetic register. Oh and I was already walking 4-5 miles a day which I continue to do.
Good luck Steve.

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Re: Prediabetes

Post by lakesider » Mon Sep 02, 2024 11:41 pm

I've been registered as type 2 for 15 years. I've reversed it twice (by losing 4 stone) and then gone and put it back on. I basically yoyo. Throughout the year I do a lot of hill walking and do a 7-10 day walk once a year. I'm on Metformin and empagliflozin daily. When I'm on it I'm strict. No booze/soft drinks; no UPF, no milk of any kind ( all are bad for you with the exception of coconut water), eat fruit as a treat (I prefer apples); don't whizz them up in a blender because the glucose increase is fourfold as you've destroyed the fibre. Intermittent fasting and do your 10K walk whilst you're fasting. I also smoke and I can tell you ( as I wear a glucose monitor full time) that it has no impact on blood sugar. Sure it's not healthy but despite what Starmer says, SUGAR is the number 1 killer. Upsides? Recent surveys and papers suggest Metformin has an interesting side effect of extending your life. Empagliflozin protects your kidneys and heart but you pee a lot as it's designed to flush out sugars through your pee. Also a point about being overweight. The only concern should be the fat around your organs and hence belly. It stops your vital organs operating efficiently. So the relatively thin folks that 'have a bit of a beer belly' are just as prone. Hope all that is informative.

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Re: Prediabetes

Post by Gordaleman » Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:39 pm

Ask your doctor about the Momenta Diabetes prevention course available on the NHS. It consists of 12 monthly meetings lasting an hour and a half at local venues. I'm currently 3/4 of the way through mine at Nelson Library. Run by Reed Wellbeing it will provide you with all the information and incentives you need. Excellent free course.

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Re: Prediabetes

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:01 am

After my brother in law was told he was pre diabetic by his doctor, I gave both my sister and him a libre 3 (2 week blood monitor through your phone)to check their sugars and to learn about which foods work well for their body.

They both ended up with an average of 6.2 for the 2 weeks. As suggested the first week they ate like they usually would to check food response and then tightened things up in the 2nd week with home made soups etc..

Both said they hardly noticed wearing it but learnt a lot about the foods and spikes from using.

I would definitely advise anyone who is pre diabetic/type 2 to use one for 2 weeks.

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Re: Prediabetes

Post by bfcjg » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:18 am

Agree rediet, I was pre diabetic a couple of years ago, lifestyle changes avoiding fatty/sugary foods, really cutting back on beer and more excecise and I'm back to normal, it's quite easy if you do it sensibly and gradually.
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Re: Prediabetes

Post by warksclaret » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:23 am

Steve 1956-hope you are progressng well. I am not overweight by any means but have a little on the tummy, but got diagnosed like you recently with pre-diabetes. Have cut out all white bread and sugar, cakes and certain foods. One little tip given to me by my son is taking Raw Apple Cider vinegar (with the mother and fermentation). Two teaspoons first think in a 200ml glass of water, and is apparently excellent at helping to control your insulin. Get it at any sizeable supermarket, but it must contain "the mother"
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Re: Prediabetes

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:02 pm

Thanks for all the advice in the almost 3 months since I was diagnosed I think I have done the hardest bit in losing weight gone from just over 15st to 13st 3...cut all cake, biscuits,alcohol ( except for a few drams on Saturday night)and high sugar products from my diet it really is frightening when you read the labels on food in the supermarkets and see the amount of sugar thats in some products ...it's just a matter of waiting till March now and a blood test they asked me to take after I had implemented what they suggested I do regarding diet & weight
Special thanks go to my wife Gillian for all her help and patience in helping me change to healthy eating.
I'm a terrible patient :)
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Re: Prediabetes

Post by chekhov » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:11 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:43 pm
We went to Tesco today shopping for no added sugar products its is a nightmare.
I would suggest avoiding processed foods. Much easier that way to avoid sugar and you’ll have a healthier diet. Good luck!

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Re: Prediabetes

Post by chekhov » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:16 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:02 pm
Thanks for all the advice in the almost 3 months since I was diagnosed I think I have done the hardest bit in losing weight gone from just over 15st to 13st 3...cut all cake, biscuits,alcohol ( except for a few drams on Saturday night)and high sugar products from my diet it really is frightening when you read the labels on food in the supermarkets and see the amount of sugar thats in some products ...it's just a matter of waiting till March now and a blood test they asked me to take after I had implemented what they suggested I do regarding diet & weight
Special thanks go to my wife Gillian for all her help and patience in helping me change to healthy eating.
I'm a terrible patient :)
Just noticed I was replying to an old post. Sounds like you’re doing great. Congratulations on losing the 2 stones!

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Re: Prediabetes

Post by bobinho » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:32 pm

Mate of mine in Germany has been overweight for some time due to overeating and lack of exercise.
He cycles over 100 miles a week now, built up from nothing 18 months ago and takes part in fasting. Here’s his last text to me…
Just got back from my Dr, HbA1c of 5.2% 🥳💪🏻😀😎
It was 9% 18 months ago 🤮🤮👎🏻 but has now been well under 6% for over a year.
No medication (nobody has ever been ‘cured’ of diabetes by medication), the power of intermittent fasting and dumping carbs when I do eat 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

Worth a shot I think if you are headed in the wrong direction.

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Re: Prediabetes

Post by Spike » Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:21 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:36 pm
Just been diagnosed with this condition...looked into it and it seems a minefield of information...any fellow Clarets have experience of this disease and any tips on reverseing it.....it's quite frightening really....but with the right diet and losing weight looks like it can be reversed
Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated
Ask your doctor if they do DESMOND in your area. It’s a couple of half days education but really worthwhile
Oily fish a couple of days a week will show amazing results
Try calorie counting and that will really help . Don’t give up treats altogether or you will fail
Good luck

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