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Re: Busted Flush

Post by boyyanno » Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:27 am

How can you be a busted flush when you've just had a successful season?

There's some real weirdo's around when it concerns Dyche for some reason. Every managerial appointment has a shelf life and I expect Dyche’s is drawing near at Everton but that doesn't make him a busted flush.

As for the playing style it's the same as every other manager, it's only a problem when you lose.

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Shaggy » Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:33 am

boyyanno wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:27 am
How can you be a busted flush when you've just had a successful season?

There's some real weirdo's around when it concerns Dyche for some reason. Every managerial appointment has a shelf life and I expect Dyche’s is drawing near at Everton but that doesn't make him a busted flush.

As for the playing style it's the same as every other manager, it's only a problem when you lose.
He’s a busted flush because his methods are no longer remotely successful. They haven’t been for a long time.

Playing style is awful and as for losing, well he has a losing managerial record in that he has lost more games than he has won. Argue all you like but they are facts.

He is not worthy of a top job. EPL firefighter at best or championship project.

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Spijed » Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:42 am

Shaggy wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:33 am
He’s a busted flush because his methods are no longer remotely successful. They haven’t been for a long time.

Playing style is awful and as for losing, well he has a losing managerial record in that he has lost more games than he has won. Argue all you like but they are facts.

He is not worthy of a top job. EPL firefighter at best or championship project.
And is playing out from the back any better?

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:42 am

Shaggy wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:33 am
He’s a busted flush because his methods are no longer remotely successful. They haven’t been for a long time.

Playing style is awful and as for losing, well he has a losing managerial record in that he has lost more games than he has won. Argue all you like but they are facts.

He is not worthy of a top job. EPL firefighter at best or championship project.
Apart from the FACT that he had a very successful season last year. Would have finished mid table but for the points deduction that was nothing to do with him or the money he has spent whilst he has been manager.
And that’s even more of a success for their owners given that during his time as manager his net spend has got to be one of the lowest in the division - if not the lowest. They have brought more money in selling players than Dyche has spent since he became manager.

As said above there are some very weird Burnley supporters who love nothing more to criticise the most successful Burnley manager in the last 50 years at least…..and you are very near to the top of that weirdo list.

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Herts Clarets » Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:50 am

Shaggy wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:33 am
He’s a busted flush because his methods are no longer remotely successful. They haven’t been for a long time.

Playing style is awful and as for losing, well he has a losing managerial record in that he has lost more games than he has won. Argue all you like but they are facts.

He is not worthy of a top job. EPL firefighter at best or championship project.
Most of his managerial career has been spent with one hand tied behind his back financially. We saw the outcome last season of an out of his depth manager trying to impose a style of play on a team when the players did not have the ability to play that way. At least Dyche recognised the limitations of the players he could afford and adapted the playing style accordingly. That to me shows him to be a pragmatic and shrewd operator and his achievements in twice getting Burnley promoted at the first time of asking, keeping them in the PL for as long as he did and qualifying for Europe for the first and so far only time in my lifetime (56 years by the way) is one of the most remarkable managerial records in the last 10 years.

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by boyyanno » Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:52 am

Shaggy wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:33 am
He’s a busted flush because his methods are no longer remotely successful. They haven’t been for a long time.

Playing style is awful and as for losing, well he has a losing managerial record in that he has lost more games than he has won. Argue all you like but they are facts.

He is not worthy of a top job. EPL firefighter at best or championship project.
Just saying "they are facts" doesn't make it so.

You've said his methods aren't successful, remind me if they stayed up last year despite a points deductions and being run like an absolute basket case? Oh they did- so his methods are successful then.

Id expect a PL Manager that's spent his time in charge of relegation favourites to have more losses than wins- that doesn't make him a bad manager or a busted flush.

But go on what else have you got :lol:

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Shaggy » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:39 pm

Some people just can’t let go…

Dyche is not a winner. Never has been. Doesn’t change his methods a bit like Kompany. People are wise to his methods and can easily outmanoeuvre him..

Treading water is all you get with Dyche.

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Shaggy » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:41 pm

Anyway apart from it will be amusing to see Everton relegated, it will be even more amusing to see the dyche lovers reaction to him getting yet another relegation and another sacking on his CV.

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Benson » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:51 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:39 pm
Some people just can’t let go…
Or, alternatively, some people appreciate what he did for the club that they support and feel the need to defend him when some muppet comes on here attempting to diminish his achievements.
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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Juan Tanamera » Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:02 pm

ecc wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 10:13 am
This obsession with Sean Dyche is worrying. I think most neutrals want Everton down but can we not just concentrate on our present manager who's doing a fine job?
I'm sure there are plenty of posts about Scott Parker on here, I'm not convinced there are enough about Sean Dyche for it to be obsessive though.

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:13 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:39 pm
Some people just can’t let go…

Dyche is not a winner. Never has been. Doesn’t change his methods a bit like Kompany. People are wise to his methods and can easily outmanoeuvre him..

Treading water is all you get with Dyche.
"Not a winner" and "all you get is treading water"? Weirdly it didn't feel like that during his 10? years at Burnley. He took us up twice and made us a Premier League force and a team everyone else, including the so called big boys, was extremely wary of. He even took us into Europe. He gave me (at 66 and a lifelong Claret) the best years I can remember watching us (notwithstanding Kompany's promotion season) and all under severe financial constraints. For that I'll always be eternally grateful to SD and always wish him well. The paradox is that as for Everton, I'd absolutely love to see them relegated as would be so funny.

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by boyyanno » Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:26 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:39 pm
Some people just can’t let go…

Dyche is not a winner. Never has been. Doesn’t change his methods a bit like Kompany. People are wise to his methods and can easily outmanoeuvre him..

Treading water is all you get with Dyche.
There's only one weirdo who can't let go here. I'll give you a clue- it's the one making babyish claims that can easily be disproven as nonsense.

Not a winner and never has been? Aye we lost our way to the PL and then to Europe.
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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Herts Clarets » Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:26 pm

"Not a winner". Funny that, I am sure I have seen Burnley beat:

Chelsea
Manchester City
Arsenal
Manchester United
Liverpool
Everton
Aston Villa
West Ham
Newcastle United
Everton
Blackburn Rovers and remain unbeaten against them for 12 years whilst playing them regularly.

The manager for each of those victories I have seen? Sean Dyche.
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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Stayingup » Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:31 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:42 am
Apart from the FACT that he had a very successful season last year. Would have finished mid table but for the points deduction that was nothing to do with him or the money he has spent whilst he has been manager.
And that’s even more of a success for their owners given that during his time as manager his net spend has got to be one of the lowest in the division - if not the lowest. They have brought more money in selling players than Dyche has spent since he became manager.

As said above there are some very weird Burnley supporters who love nothing more to criticise the most successful Burnley manager in the last 50 years at least…..and you are very near to the top of that weirdo list.
Not near the top this one. He's the champion. He or she whoever; once said that Dyche would never get another job after his departure from Burnley. That sums this one up.

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Guller Bull » Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:59 pm

On a slightly different tangent, Michael Duff is doing well at the moment with Huddersfield. Future manager maybe?? Got some good experience under his belt now.

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by superdimitri » Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:36 pm

When you're desperate for stability and scrapping for points you need the steady pros. He knows what he's doing. I feel sorry for him to be honest.

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Shaggy » Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:37 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:26 pm
"Not a winner". Funny that, I am sure I have seen Burnley beat:

Chelsea
Manchester City
Arsenal
Manchester United
Liverpool
Everton
Aston Villa
West Ham
Newcastle United
Everton
Blackburn Rovers and remain unbeaten against them for 12 years whilst playing them regularly.

The manager for each of those victories I have seen? Sean Dyche.
He has a losing record and hasn’t won a major trophy. And no the championship trophy isn’t a major one. He is not a winner.

I’m not surprised to see a few of the usual tampons take a hissy fit at any Dyche realism.

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:39 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:37 pm
He has a losing record and hasn’t won a major trophy. And no the championship trophy isn’t a major one. He is not a winner.

I’m not surprised to see a few of the usual tampons take a hissy fit at any Dyche realism.
So the majority of managers in football are losers with losing records because they’ve never won a major trophy

Glad we cleared that up

You’ll never be happy with any manager we have then

Bore off
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Re: Busted Flush

Post by boyyanno » Mon Sep 16, 2024 4:00 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:37 pm
He has a losing record and hasn’t won a major trophy. And no the championship trophy isn’t a major one. He is not a winner.

I’m not surprised to see a few of the usual tampons take a hissy fit at any Dyche realism.
I think someone had too many Scooby snacks.

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Herts Clarets » Mon Sep 16, 2024 4:03 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:37 pm
He has a losing record and hasn’t won a major trophy. And no the championship trophy isn’t a major one. He is not a winner.

I’m not surprised to see a few of the usual tampons take a hissy fit at any Dyche realism.
Is that you Mr Garlick?

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Shaggy » Mon Sep 16, 2024 4:40 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:39 pm
So the majority of managers in football are losers with losing records because they’ve never won a major trophy

Glad we cleared that up

You’ll never be happy with any manager we have then

Bore off
You are not very good at this are you. Boring plug and play arguments like your idol…

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Sep 16, 2024 4:50 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:31 pm
Not near the top this one. He's the champion. He or she whoever; once said that Dyche would never get another job after his departure from Burnley. That sums this one up.
Yep - apologies you are spot on
Undisputed top of the pr-ick list is this lad - no way is it a she. There’s no female in the world that thick.
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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Row x » Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:10 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:41 pm
Anyway apart from it will be amusing to see Everton relegated, it will be even more amusing to see the dyche lovers reaction to him getting yet another relegation and another sacking on his CV.
I'm amazed that there are any Burnley fans who don't love Dyche, but you continue to surprise

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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Bosscat » Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:26 pm


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Re: Busted Flush

Post by Stayingup » Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:44 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 4:03 pm
Is that you Mr Garlick?
No Garlick has a brain. This titia devoid of one or any sense. Just a numbnib.
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