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Clarets vs Oxford match Thread
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I thought we played well. It was a much better watch than last week. We were passing throught them but we just haven't got that killer ball. I am hoping Flemming will make the difference. Koleosho was deffinitely better on the left. He caused them a lot of problems when he was there in the second half.
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Disappointing, but we're still a work in progress.
The goals need to come from somewhere, and I think we need to sacrifice a bit of that possession to go a bit more direct at times. If you can't win the first ball pick up the second.
The only problem would be if SP thinks it is a matter of time if we keep playing like this, because when teams defend like Oxford did possession counts for very little.
The goals need to come from somewhere, and I think we need to sacrifice a bit of that possession to go a bit more direct at times. If you can't win the first ball pick up the second.
The only problem would be if SP thinks it is a matter of time if we keep playing like this, because when teams defend like Oxford did possession counts for very little.
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If this is what we are going to get from Parker ball this season it might just cure my insomnia
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On the face of it a point away is not a bad result, but when you consider that the opposition didn't attempt to do anything but draw the game it isn't great. Almost every week we will come up against a team who sit back and let us have the ball, it's a pretty obvious statement, but we really need to find ways to break teams down as a goal never really looked like coming in that second half.
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LolClaretitus wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:58 pmIf we can’t beat that lot, even with the side we had out, we’ve no chance of going up. Not enough goals in the side for me. Foster was awful, Jay past it, and as for Houtondji I despair.
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We aren't going to score enough to go up automatically unless Flemming can hit a purple patch.
Foster, Hountondji and Jay Rod are a poor excuse for a front line challenging for the Premier League.
Foster, Hountondji and Jay Rod are a poor excuse for a front line challenging for the Premier League.
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That’s what most of our knuckle dragging fans want. HoofBurnley Ace wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:00 pmWhat’s your tactic against a team with 11 men in their defensive third, lump it into the box?
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Agree entirely. Was a tough watch at times and a team they will get better at playing teams which just want to sit deep. We did not favours spuring the chances we had. But the reaction on here is genuinely embarrassing.Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:01 pmOn the face of it a point away is not a bad result, but when you consider that the opposition didn't attempt to do anything but draw the game it isn't great. Almost every week we will come up against a team who sit back and let us have the ball, it's a pretty obvious statement, but we really need to find ways to break teams down as a goal never really looked like coming in that second half.
A point away from home running into 3 games in 7 days. Let's see where we are end of next Saturday. UTC
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We are 4th. 2 points off top after 7 gamesroperclaret wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:02 pmUsual suspects that lose their **** every time we don’t win a game
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Just me that thought we played pretty well? Oxford had 0.08 (crazy low) xG v 1.87. Obviously missing some extra quality in the final action but not sure I get all the negativity. Flemming was signed for a joint record fee for this level and is needed in games like this, as he knows where the net is. I’d suggest we really could do with getting Tresor involved as well, that final ball, set piece or open play, all that was missing today (yet still missed some fairly decent chances).
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3points at home 1 point away guarantees you promotion .
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Stop posting then
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I agreeRVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:03 pmJust me that thought we played pretty well? Oxford had 0.08 (crazy low) xG v 1.87. Obviously missing some extra quality in the final action but not sure I get all the negativity. Flemming was signed for a joint record fee for this level and is needed in games like this, as he knows where the net is. I’d suggest we really could do with getting Tresor involved as well, that final ball, set piece or open play, all that was missing today (yet still missed some fairly decent chances).
Oxford were never going to score. It’s all heading in the right direction.
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They were perhaps the worst team I've seen in the Championship. In tge first hslf we werent too bad, in the second half we were ferkin awful. Too many light weight fancy dancers,(same as last season). Foster spent the game with his back to the goal with three big centre halves up his backside and no support whatsoever. Tactically that was a disaster, if Parket cant see we need power and support for Foster up front then we have no chance of going up. Hannibal, Sarmiento, Anthony running round in circles, give me strength. Cullen left to try and run midfield on his own. Very disappointing. Need changes.
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Nope. I also thought we played well. Some of our movement and passing was very good but we don't have the killer ball. Players need to get into forward positions when Foster has all the defenders round him. We had chances to win it but didn't take them.RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:03 pmJust me that thought we played pretty well? Oxford had 0.08 (crazy low) xG v 1.87. Obviously missing some extra quality in the final action but not sure I get all the negativity. Flemming was signed for a joint record fee for this level and is needed in games like this, as he knows where the net is. I’d suggest we really could do with getting Tresor involved as well, that final ball, set piece or open play, all that was missing today (yet still missed some fairly decent chances).
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It might be old fashioned to some but against a team like this (and Portsmouth last week) we’d be better playing 442 - two wingers, two overlapping full backs and two strikers. Get the ball in the box as much as possible. Playing in front of these teams is completely ineffective.Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:00 pmWhat’s your tactic against a team with 11 men in their defensive third, lump it into the box?
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I wonder how many times last season teams of our stature were saying things like
"I can't believe we've lost to Ipswich away, they were in L1 last season".
They've done well at home and made it hard for us. They're going to be a solid mid table side so I'm not overly bothered that we've not won, it's a good point.
With that being said it's been a tough watch in a few games now. With teams that are sat in, if you don't shift the ball around quickly you might as well just not bother.
I feel we are missing exactly someone of Beyers or maybe even Roberts profile - A defender who will step into CM and break lines, pushing the rest of the team 10 yards forward
Foster is going to be better playing for a side who want to play on the counter attack. We're trying to build around the penalty area and half the time hes not there waiting for it. I hope our talent spotters have someone with a sharp turn and can fire off shots early in mind.
"I can't believe we've lost to Ipswich away, they were in L1 last season".
They've done well at home and made it hard for us. They're going to be a solid mid table side so I'm not overly bothered that we've not won, it's a good point.
With that being said it's been a tough watch in a few games now. With teams that are sat in, if you don't shift the ball around quickly you might as well just not bother.
I feel we are missing exactly someone of Beyers or maybe even Roberts profile - A defender who will step into CM and break lines, pushing the rest of the team 10 yards forward
Foster is going to be better playing for a side who want to play on the counter attack. We're trying to build around the penalty area and half the time hes not there waiting for it. I hope our talent spotters have someone with a sharp turn and can fire off shots early in mind.
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Sitting comfortably in 4th with best GD
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Although I don't disagree with the general thrust of your post, we missed one very good chance and then an absolute sitter in that second half.Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:01 pmOn the face of it a point away is not a bad result, but when you consider that the opposition didn't attempt to do anything but draw the game it isn't great. Almost every week we will come up against a team who sit back and let us have the ball, it's a pretty obvious statement, but we really need to find ways to break teams down as a goal never really looked like coming in that second half.
That miss by Houtondji was pretty bad - to put it politely.
Either of those goes in and we probably get a second, and it then looks like a good away performance and result.
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It's no surprise that Foster, before his problems, was better in the Premier than Championship. Teams don't sit back in the Premier against us so he has more room to run into. He is stifled with all those defenders round him. If we are going to play him we need to find a way to help him out.
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Did you think we had no chance of going up when we drew with Blackpool twice and away to Reading under VK?Claretitus wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:58 pmIf we can’t beat that lot, even with the side we had out, we’ve no chance of going up. Not enough goals in the side for me. Foster was awful, Jay past it, and as for Houtondji I despair.
P.S. They got relegated and we were promoted.
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The truth is they didn’t even make it hard for us,koleosho had acres of space all first half and we didn’t utilise it.We can’t keep making excuses,we were dreadful.Not slagging anyone off because it happens but don’t try dressing it up.BigGaz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:07 pmI wonder how many times last season teams of our stature were saying things like
"I can't believe we've lost to Ipswich away, they were in L1 last season".
They've done well at home and made it hard for us. They're going to be a solid mid table side so I'm not overly bothered that we've not won, it's a good point.
With that being said it's been a tough watch in a few games now. With teams that are sat in, if you don't shift the ball around quickly you might as well just not bother.
I feel we are missing exactly someone of Beyers or maybe even Roberts profile - A defender who will step into CM and break lines.
Foster is going to be better playing for a side who want to play on the counter attack. We're trying to build around the penalty area and half the time hes not there waiting for it. I hope our talent spotters have someone with a sharp turn and can fire off shots early in mind.
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If only it was so easy!!!!Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:07 pmIt might be old fashioned to some but against a team like this (and Portsmouth last week) we’d be better playing 442 - two wingers, two overlapping full backs and two strikers. Get the ball in the box as much as possible. Playing in front of these teams is completely ineffective.
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There were plenty of frustrating draws in the first few games two seasons ago.
I think we'll get better, we do need to come up with a plan though against teams that will put 10 men behind the ball because it'll happen plenty of times
I think we'll get better, we do need to come up with a plan though against teams that will put 10 men behind the ball because it'll happen plenty of times
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A lot of whinging on here. I think some need to tweak their expectations a bit for these opening games when you consider that half of the squad was swapped out only a few weeks ago.
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Or they can say it how it is.Anyone saying that wasn’t a bad watch is deluded.
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Unfortunately for SP we dont have a striker fit ti score 20 this season. Foster is not good or consistent enough and Houdini is league 2 standard. Jay is back up only. So at least 1 or 2 strikers a must in january. And shift Foster and Houdini out.
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It wasn't bad... you don't dominate a game away from home, and take a point if you play badlyRobbie_painter wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:12 pmOr they can say it how it is.Anyone saying that wasn’t a bad watch is deluded.
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Exactly,foster smashes one over from seven yards and Houdini chooses to side foot volley wide instead of just bringing it down and rolling it in.
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There's no dressing up pal. We played badly, should've won, there's a lot to work on but it's not the end of the worldRobbie_painter wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:10 pmThe truth is they didn’t even make it hard for us,koleosho had acres of space all first half and we didn’t utilise it.We can’t keep making excuses,we were dreadful.Not slagging anyone off because it happens but don’t try dressing it up.
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Come on mate fair enough we dominated the game but did you ever think a goal was coming at any point?We lack a bit of quality up top.Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:15 pmIt wasn't bad... you don't dominate a game away from home, and take a point if you play badly
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Weren't most people saying that we needed to hang in there and be in or round the top six by Christmas, due to the amount of players leaving and coming in. Some people have no patience.
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Scott Parker is one boring football manager.
He doesn't like working opposition goalkeepers does he?
He doesn't like working opposition goalkeepers does he?
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It wasn't as bad as folk are saying here. We totally dominated away from home, and had 3 glorious chances to win it. On another day its 2 nil and on here it goes from "embarrassing" to "clinical".
We will get better in the final third no doubt, and while today was frustrating at points we did a lot well too. We've become so entitled these days.
We will get better in the final third no doubt, and while today was frustrating at points we did a lot well too. We've become so entitled these days.
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Scott Parker’s previous teams must have played differently for the centre forwards to have scored 20 goals in both seasons.
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Cue fans having a go at other fans for having an opinion on what they’ve just witnessed. Zzzzzz
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It isn't Parkers fault for the options he has available up front.Robbie_painter wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:18 pmCome on mate fair enough we dominated the game but did you ever think a goal was coming at any point?We lack a bit of quality up top.
We played some good football but Foster isn't.offering anything
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I said to my mate, if anyone had scored even just the one goal, they’d win the gameRobbie_painter wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:18 pmCome on mate fair enough we dominated the game but did you ever think a goal was coming at any point?We lack a bit of quality up top.
There was never going to be 2 goals in that one
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I can’t understand this. Is it his fault Sarmiento, Foster and Houndontji all didn’t ‘work the keeper’ by missing the target with their massive chances?Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:20 pmScott Parker is one boring football manager.
He doesn't like working opposition goalkeepers does he?
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I agree with this tbh. Just keep going at them, anything can happen once it's in the mixer.Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:07 pmIt might be old fashioned to some but against a team like this (and Portsmouth last week) we’d be better playing 442 - two wingers, two overlapping full backs and two strikers. Get the ball in the box as much as possible. Playing in front of these teams is completely ineffective.