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New striker in Jan?

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:09 pm

Do you think we will get a new striker in Jan?

Is Whitaker the preferred option still?

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Juan Tanamera » Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:11 pm

He's a winger, isn't he?

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Row x » Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:25 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:09 pm
Do you think we will get a new striker in Jan?

Is Whitaker the preferred option still?
If by striker, you mean a centre forward, then Whitaker isn't your man. He plays wide.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by warksclaret » Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:47 pm

We have ample cover in all areas of the pitch. At centre forward we have Hountondji (not up to it), Rodriguez (past his best some time ago and at very best an outside squad player ) and Foster (occasional glimpses of power and strength) but too many games pass him -yesterday was a classic example. We need someone who can put himself about, is quick, good in the air, and has a goal scoring record. It could be the missing part of the jig saw to get us promoted. We have 3 months to identify this player who I feel is crucial to the team. If we succeed we could let Hountondji or Rodriguez out on loan-maybe both
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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:48 pm

We have a striker that we hardly create any chances for. That's what needs fixing

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Vincent'sCap » Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:57 pm

Foster will be fine the doom merchants on this forum are already turning on him which is so wrong in so many ways.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by claret2018 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:58 pm

We absolutely need a striker. At the moment we have Foster, and Houdini, neither of which appear to be reliable at all.

I wouldn’t even count Jay as a striker anymore.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:07 pm

I don't think we need a new striker in January, I think we need two at least. Before the season started I assumed Jayrod would leave and knew that Barnes was leaving, hence I said we needed two good Championship strikers (not wingers who score the odd goal) inorder to play alogside or instead of Foster. Nothing has changed my mind.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:07 pm

Watched Delap play for Ipswich today had a great game. We need someone like that that puts himself about and has a bit of skill.

I’m hoping Foster comes good again looked right at it against Luton.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Commy » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:07 pm

Foster isn't playing well because we aren't playing to his strengths. It's no good trying to find him when he is smothered by three defenders. He needs someone capable up there with him. Hopefully, when he is back, Flemming can forge a decent partnership with him.
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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:11 pm

I’d like to see us play with two up front and a defour / Fleming type player just behind. Might be easier to score then at least. At this level.

Everybody else in team could do the donkey work so they can be free to do some quality attacking.

Stick kolo up front maybe to help Foster in the meantime.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by warksclaret » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:16 pm

Vincent'sCap wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:57 pm
Foster will be fine the doom merchants on this forum are already turning on him which is so wrong in so many ways.
I dont consider myself to be a doom merchant. I like Foster and want him to succeed more than any other player. But in 7 games, admittedly he missed one but has played well in 2 maybe 3 at a push, and against some poor sides, considering we were in the PL last year. When I hear people say he will come good it somewhat reminds me of what posters were saying after our 8 or 9 first PL games, saying VK will sort it out , and we would be OK. I hope I am wrong but watching him yesterday the Oxford centre halves had a very easy game. I know how good he can be, but it feels like he is struggling with something at present, when he could be really shining in this division.He has the ability no doubt, but not anything like the consistency..
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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:16 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:11 pm
He's a winger, isn't he?
If Kolo is sold for £40m then maybe a good replacement.

Seems to be a high scoring one.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by warksclaret » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:19 pm

This may be answered already, but do we know why Fleming did not even make the squad. Particularly as he gave a very upbeat message on Friday

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Vincent'sCap » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:40 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:16 pm
I dont consider myself to be a doom merchant. I like Foster and want him to succeed more than any other player. But in 7 games, admittedly he missed one but has played well in 2 maybe 3 at a push, and against some poor sides, considering we were in the PL last year. When I hear people say he will come good it somewhat reminds me of what posters were saying after our 8 or 9 first PL games, saying VK will sort it out , and we would be OK. I hope I am wrong but watching him yesterday the Oxford centre halves had a very easy game. I know how good he can be, but it feels like he is struggling with something at present, when he could be really shining in this division.He has the ability no doubt, but not anything like the consistency..
The match thread yesterday made for grim reading with many getting on Fosters case I found it all rather sad.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:49 pm

Anybody that thinks this fella is a natural goalscorer is living in cloud cuckoo land. I feel for him and his personal issues but this is business and we desperately need better.
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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by beddie » Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:19 pm

Without doubt we do. Should Foster get a lengthy injury or lose form we just don’t have anyone good enough to take his place and that’s no disrespect to the remaining strikers at the club.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:42 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:49 pm
Anybody that thinks this fella is a natural goalscorer is living in cloud cuckoo land. I feel for him and his personal issues but this is business and we desperately need better.
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Spot on Foster is pants and it's not just at Burnley, look at his goal scoring record at all those other clubs, they all can't be crap at supplying him with the ball

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by KRBFC » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:17 pm

I’d go get Morris from Luton in Jan and Whittaker from Plymouth

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by cockneyclaret » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:29 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:17 pm
I’d go get Morris from Luton in Jan and Whittaker from Plymouth
Or the other striker at Luton, sorry I can't spell his name.. adeboyo

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by dsr » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:45 pm

In a similar system for England in the Euros, Harry Kane looked a poor player. Anyone would.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Commy » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:23 am

cockneyclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:29 pm
Or the other striker at Luton, sorry I can't spell his name.. adeboyo
Adebyo looked awful against Plymouth. He looked very slow and was caught up easily a couple of times when he was through. Everyone would be moaning that we didn't have Foster as he would have been long gone in those situations.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:52 am

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:09 pm
Do you think we will get a new striker in Jan?

Is Whitaker the preferred option still?
Whitaker is going all the way....i think we'll be very fortunate if we can still get him.
We need a big body up top ....someone to cross to.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:01 am

cockneyclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:29 pm
Or the other striker at Luton, sorry I can't spell his name.. adeboyo
Pace would sign him just for the shirt sales, 50p a letter on the back would make a fortune if you put is full name :lol:

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Quicknick » Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:04 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:01 am
Pace would sign him just for the shirt sales, 50p a letter on the back would make a fortune if you put is full name :lol:

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by bobinho » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:02 am

Foster needs help on the field, no question. The worry is with his personal issues if he doesn’t get that help and we can’t play to his strengths. Stands to reason his confidence will drop and with it his mental well being. Because of that possibility, we need to be busy right now identifying a proven goalscorer to come in come January. I believe it would be dereliction to not sort this out.
I like foster, I really do. When he’s on it and we are feeding him decent balls he can be really effective. We’re not helping him, but also on the rare occasion he finds himself in a good position and we get the ball to him, the chance goes begging.
So in answer to the OP, yes… it’s an absolute MUST if we harbour any desire to go back up.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Notsosuperstevedavis » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:51 am

The problem for me (apart from lack of goals) is what type of striker is he?

Poacher, 6 yard box type (Austin)
Technical, fast, clever sort (Ings)
Cross: header sort (Vokes)
Or a run in behind sort (Tella)

They all worked at the time. But which is he?
We dont play to his strengths and like already said,
What are the midfield supplying?

I’d be 1000 times less concerned if he was getting 5/6 chances a game and not putting them away.

He doesnt get the chances.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Notsosuperstevedavis » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:57 am

Could be a

Bruiser /hold it up / enforcer (Barnes)
If we played to his strengths - we’d know his best suit.
Maybe its the system at fault

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Goliath » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:05 am

Notsosuperstevedavis wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:51 am
The problem for me (apart from lack of goals) is what type of striker is he?

Poacher, 6 yard box type (Austin)
Technical, fast, clever sort (Ings)
Cross: header sort (Vokes)
Or a run in behind sort (Tella)

They all worked at the time. But which is he?
We dont play to his strengths and like already said,
What are the midfield supplying?

I’d be 1000 times less concerned if he was getting 5/6 chances a game and not putting them away.

He doesnt get the chances.
You've missed the one he is or should be most similar to.

Andre Gray. He could learn a lot just from watching clips of the runs he use to make for us. Foster should be a much better version
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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Clive 1960 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:08 am

Definitely need another striker in January as we just haven't got the back up needed to challenge the top 2 if Foster is Injured..

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:10 am

We should’ve got another striker in August to bolster our attack. Big mistake not to address our deficiencies up front.

Whether that is down to Parker or Pace, who knows?

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:42 am

dsr wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:45 pm
In a similar system for England in the Euros, Harry Kane looked a poor player. Anyone would.
Harry Kane was injured for the Euros and shouldn’t have been in the squad.
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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Blyclaret » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:42 am

Foster has never been prolific no matter what club he was at. Kompany took a punt on him like a few others that has not worked.
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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Blyclaret » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:43 am

Hopefully Ipswich will come back in for him in January €25m seems a lot money now for him.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by KRBFC » Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:41 am

Commy wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:23 am
Adebyo looked awful against Plymouth. He looked very slow and was caught up easily a couple of times when he was through. Everyone would be moaning that we didn't have Foster as he would have been long gone in those situations.
You can say he was awful but he was heavily involved, gave the defenders a proper game just lacked the cutting edge (which he’s shown previously he has).

As opposed to Foster who is completely anonymous to the point you don’t even realise he’s still playing until he’s getting subbed off.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by GetIntoEm » Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:39 am

could have a prime Harry Kane up front for us and wouldnt score in this system. we are not making the chances, thats the problem, not the man up there.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:23 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:42 am
Harry Kane was injured for the Euros and shouldn’t have been in the squad.
Rubbish...... Kane didn't do anything because the Southgate system was negative and boring and snuffed out all creativity in the squad, you can't score passing it around your own back line most of the game.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by what now ! » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:26 pm

we saw what foster could do with the goal again 'them' that's the sort of service he needs, if he gets that then he will be fine,

however i can see a pattern emerging with the teams we play against, defend deep let us have the ball and try and counter on us, i think we will be served that fare all season , its what clubs try and do to city in the prem, i think they see us as a standard above them and will be happy in some cases not to get thumped. if there is space behind them we will make chances but i fear it will be few and far between, cue 80% possession against Plymouth with the ball in their half for most of the game !!
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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:48 pm

what now ! wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:26 pm
we saw what foster could do with the goal again 'them' that's the sort of service he needs, if he gets that then he will be fine,

however i can see a pattern emerging with the teams we play against, defend deep let us have the ball and try and counter on us, i think we will be served that fare all season , its what clubs try and do to city in the prem, i think they see us as a standard above them and will be happy in some cases not to get thumped. if there is space behind them we will make chances but i fear it will be few and far between, cue 80% possession against Plymouth with the ball in their half for most of the game !!
Plymouth are a young team, they go out to win but lose the ball a lot especially at the back because of this I see us scoring 3 or 4, Preston in a derby game live on Sky and near the foot of the table won't want to be thumped they'll make it hard for us to break down like Oxford did and this is going to be a very tight 1-0 either way or a boring draw

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:53 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:39 am
could have a prime Harry Kane up front for us and wouldnt score in this system. we are not making the chances, thats the problem, not the man up there.
:lol: course he wouldn't.

Foster could be doing a whole lot more for the team than he is doing, and that's before you even bring scoring goals into the equation.

FYI, Kane scored more goals in Euro 2024 than Foster has scored in the Championship.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by jlup1980 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:24 pm

There are two clear reasons why he needs to be replaced:
1 - He's not a natural goalscorer.
2 - He doesn't fit the Parker system.

If he were a natural goalscorer like Payton or Austin you could forgive his shortcomings, but he isn't. Foster is ok in a team that plays direct and tries to get in behind defences, because his main attribute is running onto the ball. The big problem is we don't do that, so he's currently about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. He doesn't hold the ball up, he can't play with his back to goal, and he doesn't score consistently. As a result, Parker needs to be allowed to bring in his own man in January. And for me, until then, Jay is the best option to work in the current system (and that's a sad indictment of our squad).

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by CoolClaret » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:41 pm

Foster may be better coming off the left, with Flemming playing as a false 9, gives him the ability to run onto the ball then - he looked dangerous against City at home last year in that position... It is hard playing against a low block, though; admittedly, he has to do more but hasn't been given great chances.

I find it hard to see the stick given to him, given his performance against Luton and brilliant header at home against Blackburn. Some are making it out like he isn't a footballer, which is just wrong.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by KRBFC » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:47 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:41 pm
Foster may be better coming off the left, with Flemming playing as a false 9, gives him the ability to run onto the ball then - he looked dangerous against City at home last year in that position... It is hard playing against a low block, though; admittedly, he has to do more but hasn't been given great chances.

I find it hard to see the stick given to him, given his performance against Luton and brilliant header at home against Blackburn. Some are making it out like he isn't a footballer, which is just wrong.
Proper full of it, you were happy to slag Amdouni off all season yet Fosters been here for almost 2 years but gets a free pass in a league lower.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by Row x » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:47 pm

jlup1980 wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:24 pm
There are two clear reasons why he needs to be replaced:
1 - He's not a natural goalscorer.
2 - He doesn't fit the Parker system.

If he were a natural goalscorer like Payton or Austin you could forgive his shortcomings, but he isn't. Foster is ok in a team that plays direct and tries to get in behind defences, because his main attribute is running onto the ball. The big problem is we don't do that, so he's currently about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. He doesn't hold the ball up, he can't play with his back to goal, and he doesn't score consistently. As a result, Parker needs to be allowed to bring in his own man in January. And for me, until then, Jay is the best option to work in the current system (and that's a sad indictment of our squad).
The chocolate fireguard comment is just ridiculous

I'm sure neither Luton or Blackburn think that

Foster is very quickly becoming this seasons Trafford, bonkers.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by NewClaret » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:57 pm

Foster had a quiet game vs Oxford. For me he’s a bit too static in these games where teams play the low block.

Against Portsmouth he danced past two defenders beautifully before playing a pass annoyingly behind Koleosho. We need to be finding him in space.

There’s a player in there for sure and he looks like he’s bulked up a bit to me which is good. He needs to play himself in to form, starting with more movement.

I can’t see us signing a better striker than him in January, so probably not worth too much discussion.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by CoolClaret » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:58 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:47 pm
Proper full of it, you were happy to slag Amdouni off all season yet Fosters been here for almost 2 years but gets a free pass in a league lower.
I do wish you'd grow up.

I didn't think Amdouni did the hard yards when he played for us last season, I actually commended him for his work rate when he came on against Sunderland this year.

You and others keep overlooking the point that Foster has at least shown he can perform to a good standard in the PL against top opposition—it's just his consistency that needs to improve.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by superdimitri » Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:08 pm

Foster is just trying too hard and thinking too much. He needs to get back to basics. A bit more composure is required. He'll come good.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by KRBFC » Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:13 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:58 pm
I do wish you'd grow up.

I didn't think Amdouni did the hard yards when he played for us last season, I actually commended him for his work rate when he came on against Sunderland this year.

You and others keep overlooking the point that Foster has at least shown he can perform to a good standard in the PL against top opposition—it's just his consistency that needs to improve.
Ah and Amdouni hasn’t shown any quality, right.

Let’s see who has the better career out of the two of them then.

Shown he can perform to a good Pl standard when? Once? :lol: The good players are the ones who are more consistent.

Slag off the new Amdouni in the PL but give Foster a 2 year pass, with half of it in a lower division. Makes sense

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by RVclaret » Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:18 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:13 pm
Ah and Amdouni hasn’t shown any quality, right.

Let’s see who has the better career out of the two of them then.

Shown he can perform to a good Pl standard when? Once? :lol: The good players are the ones who are more consistent.

Slag off the new Amdouni in the PL but give Foster a 2 year pass, with half of it in a lower division. Makes sense
He had something like 5 goals 3 assists in his first 8-10 PL games and was rated as our best player during that period according to the average ratings given on here. Unfortunately he fell ill after this. But more than once.

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Re: New striker in Jan?

Post by KateR » Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:49 pm

we won't be playing in a system that has balls being slung in from all over for a big boy to get his head on, so no use looking for one of those. If we can't open defenses up with the players we have who are not strikers, then the problem lies there in reality as far as I am concerned

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