Pakistan v England

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:02 pm

Sajid is loving this.

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:04 pm

225-6 Stokes. 4-14 in the last 4 overs.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:05 pm

Huge collapse.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:05 pm

Proper collapse going on here. Ball suddenly started to turn sideways.

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:09 pm

There's no team in Test Cricet that as good as us at Batting Collapses !

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:56 pm

It was always a gamble (imo) to bring back the captain when he hadn’t played competitive cricket since August 11th
So far he’s bowled 5 overs and lasted 5 deliveries
It looks like he may need to play a captain’s innings in the 2nd innings

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 3:37 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:02 pm
Sajid is loving this.

I think it's the same Sajid who played for Walsden last season.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 4:52 pm

Aclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:09 pm
There's no team in Test Cricet that as good as us at Batting Collapses !

You mean other than Pakistan?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:16 pm

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 16, 2024 3:37 pm
I think it's the same Sajid who played for Walsden last season.

Haslingden tweeted something about the lad who came in and scored a ton for Pakistan on debut being an ex pro of theirs.

bodge · Post by **bodge** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:20 pm

He played in the Huddersfield league this Summer.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:10 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:16 pm
Haslingden tweeted something about the lad who came in and scored a ton for Pakistan on debut being an ex pro of theirs.

He was at Hassy six years ago

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:53 am

Pakistan 25-2

A lead of 100.

The pitch is deteriorating and becoming very difficult to bat on. Anything above 200 is going to be a struggle.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:01 am

India 34 for 6 at lunch after winning the toss at home to NZ.

Not the standard India innings after 24 overs

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:04 am

Bashir gets his 3rd wicket last ball before lunch 43/3 lead of 118

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:05 am

Pakistan 43/3
118 lead. Spinners on Top.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:14 am

Keep it under 200 and it's game on

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:04 am

India all out 46

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:09 am

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:31 am

Culmclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:04 am
India all out 46

Blimey, that's a turn up, the mighty India AO 46 in 31 overs, I presume it's a bit of a bowlers track

It'd be good to see kiwis pass that without loss anyway

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:05 am

India won the toss too I see, wonder if Rohit regrets his decision to bat? NZ pass India's total in the 13th over with no loss anyway
O'Rourke had bowling figures of 4/22 in 12 overs and they weren't the best bowling figures for NZ

Meanwhile England have a 5th wkt but it's going to be difficult chasing 200+ anyway I fear.

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:09 am

Funny old game cricket

Last month NZ lost to Sri Lanka by an innings and 154 runs

Today they just bowled out India on their own patch for 46 and are 54-0 in reply

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:25 am

Drat.
Smith puts one down.

Now Root has!

Got to feel for Carse.
He's been impressive again.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:18 am

145/6

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:29 am

150/7 !

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:37 am

156/8

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:45 am

Pakistan pushing for runs now.
Come on, England.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:16 pm

Brilliant fielding on the boundary from Duckett saving 5 runs.
Can't imagine Jack Simmons would ever have tried that.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:39 pm

Salman's gone.
Think he & Sajid have taken the game away from us though.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:59 pm

England 1-1 Duckett gone

If I was to have a bet on this I would back Pakistan to win by at least 100

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:59 pm

Oh dear Duckett

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:22 pm

Crawley gone.

The downside to playing swashbuckling cricket.

Sometimes games call for batters to be watchful and use their technique, this is one such game.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:36 pm

Pakistan seem to have remembered how to bat again.

Four innings in this series, their highest run rate by a distance was the second innings of the first test when their only objective was to bat time.
Very very odd.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:16 pm

MrTopTier wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:22 pm
Crawley gone.

The downside to playing swashbuckling cricket.

Sometimes games call for batters to be watchful and use their technique, this is one such game.

Losing those two wickets and the way we did was ridiculous given how much time we have to try and get the runs.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:29 pm

Time is irrelevant on a minefield - if you dig in, there'll be one with your name on, and you'll have gone nowhere.

This is the way this team plays..... you've got to accept the 823 off 150 overs and the 28/2 today. Personally, I think it's great to watch.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:44 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:16 pm
Losing those two wickets and the way we did was ridiculous given how much time we have to try and get the runs.

Brainless opening batting, 2 whole days left for heavens sake!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:49 pm

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:29 pm
Time is irrelevant on a minefield - if you dig in, there'll be one with your name on, and you'll have gone nowhere.

This is the way this team plays..... you've got to accept the 823 off 150 overs and the 28/2 today. Personally, I think it's great to watch.

Get Jonny Bairstow back

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:10 pm

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:29 pm
Time is irrelevant on a minefield - if you dig in, there'll be one with your name on, and you'll have gone nowhere.

This is the way this team plays..... you've got to accept the 823 off 150 overs and the 28/2 today. Personally, I think it's great to watch.

Spot on

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:40 am

Game over inside half an hour.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 7:18 am

The game was always going to be heavily reliant on the toss.

Their spinners have been far more effective than ours.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:30 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 13, 2024 3:10 pm
I thought the venues for test matches were predetermined.
I don't see how they are allowed to change venue to stay at Multan.
I can see that the hope of the pitch breaking up helps a test match, but fail to see how it will benefit Pakistan, other than throwing a curveball that Pakistan will also have to overcome.
It made for an unbelievable test match, but if it wasn't for the result, the complaints about how flat that wicket was would still be ongoing.

To be honest, I'm amazed they got away with this.

Is there anything that could stop them playing there again in the third Test?

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:30 pm

ecc wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:30 pm
To be honest, I'm amazed they got away with this.

Is there anything that could stop them playing there again in the third Test?

Yes, everything. They can't just change venues at a week's notice.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:01 pm

A lot has been made of this pitch being a minefield. It's spun a bit but nothing out of the ordinary.

All wickets today were self inflicted.

We were up against chasing the total as history will tell you but we shouldn't be getting bowled out in 30odd overs.

Let's hope we win the toss next week.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:58 am

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:30 pm
Yes, everything. They can't just change venues at a week's notice.

Hi TheFamilyCat,

I don't know how much notice they gave prior to changing the venue for the second Test. It didn't appear to be very much but I really don't know.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:39 pm

Throughout the first test they were talking about back-to-back tests at Multan. And the reason was due to construction work at the ground they were due to plsy on, so it wasn't done on a whim.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:57 am

3rd and deciding test

England won toss and bat first

100 up before lunch but loss of 5 wickets. 102/5 all 28 overs bowled so far by the same pair of spinners

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:59 am

121/6 Stokes gone

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:31 am

ecc wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:58 am
Hi TheFamilyCat,

I don't know how much notice they gave prior to changing the venue for the second Test. It didn't appear to be very much but I really don't know.

They didn't change the venue for the second test, unless you're talking about perhaps a change made several months or even years in advance. The first two tests were due to be played at Multan, and they were.

The original plan was that they would use two separate wickets at Multan as is normal in all forms of cricket. The change of plan was that they would use the same wicket for the second test.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:09 pm

dsr wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:31 am
They didn't change the venue for the second test, unless you're talking about perhaps a change made several months or even years in advance. The first two tests were due to be played at Multan, and they were.

The original plan was that they would use two separate wickets at Multan as is normal in all forms of cricket. The change of plan was that they would use the same wicket for the second test.

Incorrect. The second test was due to be played in Karachi but was changed 17 days before the start of the series.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:27 pm

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:36 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:09 pm
Incorrect. The second test was due to be played in Karachi but was changed 17 days before the start of the series.

That late? Thanks. But at least it wasn't changed as a result of what happened in the first test.