January transfer window priorities

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:18 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:31 pm
I have to disagree on the winger point. I think our main issue is we have too many left footed wingers full stop.

I’m not convinced another young winger like Whittaker is the answer for us and I feel for balance we need a right footed right winger. Maybe Redmond provides that when fit.

Tella would be my top pick.

I’d also like a technical attacking midfielder that can work in tight spaces and find final passes. I think that could be Ramsey if we can get him fit.

The rest I just can’t even begin to consider until we know what’s going to happen with injuries. Tresor, Foster, Sarmiento, Benson, etc.

I do agree about Trafford. I think Newcastle will come back in and with Hladky and Green, who came with positive results, and us generally looking pretty solid at the back, I would not be averse to us accepting a big bid if it meant we could strengthen elsewhere.
Sorry for delay replying to your original reply to me.

The only left footers we have in the squad are Benson, young Agyei and 4 of the defenders. I think.

All the other wingers are right footed - Anthony, Sarmiento, Tresor, Redmond, Koleosho etc.

Whittaker is left footed. Hence why I think we need him, given we prefer wingers cutting inside.

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by bobinho » Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:20 pm

Mattster wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:04 pm
We created barely anything. A couple of blocked shots(which a different player wouldn't have scored)and the rest were hopeful long rangers or 1 in 50 headed chances from corners.

Which "chance" yesterday is put away by this magical January striker?
Anthony’s chance early on when a first time strike instead of the touch leaves the defender way behind play?

Koleosho free header?

The Cullen shot on goal was a good chance, no?

The last chance tackle on Roberts by their defender on the edge of the 6 yd box. That a chance?

The Laurent header that was comfortably saved was a chance I think?

The Fleming header late on?

Connors crossbar shot not count as a chance?

Ok, so maybe this magical January striker doesn’t get all these chances, but we as a team certainly had them yesterday… more than enough chances to win the game comfortably.

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by Blyclaret » Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:23 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:43 pm
Can't move them on if they are injured. Out of interest which 6(or more) do you see being moved on?
Sambo…Benson… Tresor…Ekdal….Delcroix….and Foster.

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:01 am

we need to up the tempo and have more aggressive tactics, we don't need a bunch of new players who will take six months to get up to speed.......unless we can get Tella but there must be very little chance of that

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by Row x » Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:10 am

bobinho wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:20 pm
Anthony’s chance early on when a first time strike instead of the touch leaves the defender way behind play?

Koleosho free header?

The Cullen shot on goal was a good chance, no?

The last chance tackle on Roberts by their defender on the edge of the 6 yd box. That a chance?

The Laurent header that was comfortably saved was a chance I think?

The Fleming header late on?

Connors crossbar shot not count as a chance?

Ok, so maybe this magical January striker doesn’t get all these chances, but we as a team certainly had them yesterday… more than enough chances to win the game comfortably.
All chances, plus a shot in the 2nd half which their goalie saved comfortably, another striker may have hit it better

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by bumba » Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:16 am

Mattster wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:04 pm
We created barely anything. A couple of blocked shots(which a different player wouldn't have scored)and the rest were hopeful long rangers or 1 in 50 headed chances from corners.

Which "chance" yesterday is put away by this magical January striker?
Humphreys header.
Roberts clean through.
Anthony clean through.
Flemming header.
Laurent chance from a corner.
Roberts hit bar.

Didn't create anything though, bore off.
We need a striker it's that simple.

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by Mattster » Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:37 am

bumba wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:16 am
Humphreys header.
Roberts clean through.
Anthony clean through.
Flemming header.
Laurent chance from a corner.
Roberts hit bar.

Didn't create anything though, bore off.
We need a striker it's that simple.
Let's suspend disbelief that this magical striker would somehow be taking up the same positions as a striker, winger, right back, left back and central midfielder all in the same game.

None of those chances were clear cut. Roberts and Anthony weren't "clear through", otherwise the shots wouldn't have been blocked. Roberts hitting the bar was a hopeful long range strike and the headers were half chances at best.

Putting a different striker in there doesn't change the outcome. There weren't any real chances for them to finish.

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by bobinho » Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:53 am

Wow.

I’m out…

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by bumba » Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:09 am

Mattster wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:37 am
Let's suspend disbelief that this magical striker would somehow be taking up the same positions as a striker, winger, right back, left back and central midfielder all in the same game.

None of those chances were clear cut. Roberts and Anthony weren't "clear through", otherwise the shots wouldn't have been blocked. Roberts hitting the bar was a hopeful long range strike and the headers were half chances at best.

Putting a different striker in there doesn't change the outcome. There weren't any real chances for them to finish.
Roberts was clean through, it was an unbelievable bit of defending from Cook to get back and across to make a block he came from no where.
A striker scores most of those chances but now you want to move the goal posts and say they can't all be in that position.
Honestly it's seriously funny listening to entitled uneducated football fans trying to slate a team 2nd in the league

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:36 am

bumba wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:09 am
Roberts was clean through, it was an unbelievable bit of defending from Cook to get back and across to make a block he came from no where.
A striker scores most of those chances but now you want to move the goal posts and say they can't all be in that position.
Honestly it's seriously funny listening to entitled uneducated football fans trying to slate a team 2nd in the league
Although I agree with some of your points regarding the chances in the game (imo that was our best team performance of the season).

I do think there is an underlying issue about chance creation (the stats also back that opinion up). We have had two very good forwards play up top for us this season (both of whom have good goal scoring records in the past). Neither striker has really had more than handful of fleeting chances.

IMO we are missing players of the Amdouni, Gudmundsson ILK technical players that can work in tight spaces in the final third. I would currently argue we don’t have a single player that can do that. Given most of the opposition we play against sit in a low block (because we are arguably the best team in the league) we desperately need that type of player. (As a side note I do think Tresor and Ramsey could be potentially be them players but with there injury’s and personal records here I wouldn’t hang my hat on them).

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by NewClaret » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:20 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 10:18 pm
Sorry for delay replying to your original reply to me.

The only left footers we have in the squad are Benson, young Agyei and 4 of the defenders. I think.

All the other wingers are right footed - Anthony, Sarmiento, Tresor, Redmond, Koleosho etc.

Whittaker is left footed. Hence why I think we need him, given we prefer wingers cutting inside.
Apologies Crosspool, you’re right. For some reason I had Sarmiento in my mind as left footed.

My point, not very well explained, is that I hate this cutting in business. Especially when it’s both sides. I feel it’s so easy to defend against as you just double up. If you take your man on you expose him 1 on 1. So the prospect of signing Whittaker and having another winger doing that just isn’t very appealing.

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by NewClaret » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:42 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:36 am
Although I agree with some of your points regarding the chances in the game (imo that was our best team performance of the season).

I do think there is an underlying issue about chance creation (the stats also back that opinion up). We have had two very good forwards play up top for us this season (both of whom have good goal scoring records in the past). Neither striker has really had more than handful of fleeting chances.

IMO we are missing players of the Amdouni, Gudmundsson ILK technical players that can work in tight spaces in the final third. I would currently argue we don’t have a single player that can do that. Given most of the opposition we play against sit in a low block (because we are arguably the best team in the league) we desperately need that type of player. (As a side note I do think Tresor and Ramsey could be potentially be them players but with there injury’s and personal records here I wouldn’t hang my hat on them).
Completely agree with this Newcastle.

To me the issue isn’t the strikers, although I wouldn’t be against signing another, it’s the chances we are creating for them.

I think we could have Haaland up front and not score at the minute and, as an aside, I don’t think City’s style gets the best out of him either!

We could do with some more technical, creative midfielders than Brownhill and Laurent. Both have done well for us in different ways this season, I’m not knocking them, I just don’t think they can hold the ball, receive on the turn or play the little final balls needed to open teams up in our current system.

I agree Ramsey and Tresor could both play roles in this and more signings might not be necessary if we could get them fit soon.

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by NewClaret » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:45 am

Row x wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:37 pm
I was under the impression that Newcastle couldn't spend much
They extended Gordon's contract, but according to sky today meant they couldn't afford to extend Isaks
Didn’t know this. If they’re in PSR trouble I can’t see them having the money then. Although I wouldn’t be against a Pope exchange to lower the fee if we got back up. He mightn’t come back though I suppose and will be on big wages.

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by bumba » Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:55 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:36 am
Although I agree with some of your points regarding the chances in the game (imo that was our best team performance of the season).

I do think there is an underlying issue about chance creation (the stats also back that opinion up). We have had two very good forwards play up top for us this season (both of whom have good goal scoring records in the past). Neither striker has really had more than handful of fleeting chances.

IMO we are missing players of the Amdouni, Gudmundsson ILK technical players that can work in tight spaces in the final third. I would currently argue we don’t have a single player that can do that. Given most of the opposition we play against sit in a low block (because we are arguably the best team in the league) we desperately need that type of player. (As a side note I do think Tresor and Ramsey could be potentially be them players but with there injury’s and personal records here I wouldn’t hang my hat on them).
I agree we haven't created as many chances as we'd all like in certain games but two that stand out are Oxford and Hull we missed some very very good chances at Oxford and a sitter at Hull which would have given us 4 more points.
Saturday should have been dead and buried and another 2 points which would have been enough to see us top which isn't bad considering.

Ramsey and Tresor would improve things significantly as I think at this level would Redmond, Redmond off the right would be a massive upgrade I think.
Foster I don't think will ever be a consistent scorer in English football, Flemming I think is better as a 10.
If we could get a main striker in then have
Redmond/Flemming/Anthony
Or
Koleosho/Ramsey/Tresor behind a good striker I think we'd start seeing the goals flow

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by GetIntoEm » Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:12 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:54 pm
Also want Jay Rod banished from the club so Parker can’t be tempted to play him.
seen some ******** posted on here, but thats up there

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by timshorts » Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:58 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:31 pm

I do agree about Trafford. I think Newcastle will come back in and with Hladky and Green, who came with positive results, and us generally looking pretty solid at the back, I would not be averse to us accepting a big bid if it meant we could strengthen elsewhere.
Newcastle need a striker, so they would be better off spending the cash on one to replace the ever-crocked wilson, to give isaak a rest sometimes.
That leaves the ex-Sheffield utd guy in need of game time. Osula. He'd be an improvement as a loan player here than some of our other options. Win win.

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by claretspice » Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:32 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:36 am
Although I agree with some of your points regarding the chances in the game (imo that was our best team performance of the season).

I do think there is an underlying issue about chance creation (the stats also back that opinion up). We have had two very good forwards play up top for us this season (both of whom have good goal scoring records in the past). Neither striker has really had more than handful of fleeting chances.

IMO we are missing players of the Amdouni, Gudmundsson ILK technical players that can work in tight spaces in the final third. I would currently argue we don’t have a single player that can do that. Given most of the opposition we play against sit in a low block (because we are arguably the best team in the league) we desperately need that type of player. (As a side note I do think Tresor and Ramsey could be potentially be them players but with there injury’s and personal records here I wouldn’t hang my hat on them).
Undoubtedly correct. At present, whilst Laurent and Hannibal both appear very good players in their own right, the decision to sign both of them and not anyone who might be considered a direct replacement for JBG looks a questionable one, particularly having also signed Anthony who has looked a reliable but relatively predictable option out wide. Flemming arguably replaced Amdouni and with a striker ahead of him might add some of that craft in tight spaces, but we look both short on genuine pace out wide or through the middle at present (Koleosho aside) and higher on character and diligence than craft and creativity. Perhaps Tresor has been earmarked to provide that craft, but it's not ideal that he's still not available 2 months after apparently being considered fit enough for Nice and Ajax to make loan offers for him. Redmond and Ramsey will also help but they don't appear close to a return.

Fairs fair, the fact Sarmiento (who does appear to have more craft about him) and Foster were out with short term injuries on Saturday meant we essentially only had Flemming Anthony and Koleosho available to start, and Flemming in particular looked like he needed a rest after about an hour. But it is hard to escape the thought that we might have over-corrected in the summer by prioritising good characters who know the Championship over the quality, unpredictability and guile to unlock stubborn defences.

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Re: January transfer window priorities

Post by Elizabeth » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:24 pm

It’s not rocket science based on Foster’s fragility and attitude

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