BurnleyFC ISA - A New Supporters Association

[Andingle]

Yes it does seem a bit cloak & dagger for some strange reason , obviously ClaretTony has made it clear he's likely to be involved and I'd guess JDRobbo is posting BurnleyFC ISA but not sure why all the secrecy though.

[ClaretTony]

I fall into that category, plus I've had many years of experience dealing with football clubs, and I'd be willing to give up some of my time to a project such as this, but before I did I would need to know who is involved, and for some reason nobody involved seems to want to identify themselves, so it's a no from me

Yes it does seem a bit cloak & dagger for some strange reason , obviously ClaretTony has made it clear he's likely to be involved and I'd guess JDRobbo is posting BurnleyFC ISA but not sure why all the secrecy though.

There is no secrecy or cloak & daggler. There's been a request for volunteers. Basically it is open to anyone who puts their name forward and that's when it will be known who's involved. That was the point of the soft launch I'd imagine.

Row x says he needs to know who is involved. It will people who put their names forward and then we will all know.

[Row x]

There is no secrecy or cloak & daggler. There's been a request for volunteers. Basically it is open to anyone who puts their name forward and that's when it will be known who's involved. That was the point of the soft launch I'd imagine.

Row x says he needs to know who is involved. It will people who put their names forward and then we will all know.

Somebody must be behind trying to set it up, yet we don't know who that is. Is it an individual, or a group of people?
Before getting involved I'd need to know if the group was going to be able to have an input to the club to be able to put forward the views of the average fan
There are some supporters who have very publicly been critical of the club and it's owners. Should those people be the ones setting this up,I doubt the club would give them the time of day, therefore there would be no reason for me personally to get involved

[daveisaclaret]

There aren't half a load of absolute arses on this messageboard. You can volunteer to get involved or you can not volunteer, I promise nobody is interested to hear you gripe about it.

[ClaretTony]

Somebody must be behind trying to set it up, yet we don't know who that is. Is it an individual, or a group of people?
Before getting involved I'd need to know if the group was going to be able to have an input to the club to be able to put forward the views of the average fan
There are some supporters who have very publicly been critical of the club and it's owners. Should those people be the ones setting this up,I doubt the club would give them the time of day, therefore there would be no reason for me personally to get involved

I can't say any more because I've said I have been involved but we won't know who is involved in the running of it until it's set up. It may well be that I'm not one once it is up and running. Some volunteers have come forward I believe since Monday's announcement. Once a team is in place to take this forward then we will all know who's involved. But as I've tried to stress, this will be just to set it all up, not run it. Who does that will be decided by the members.

[GetIntoEm]

There aren't half a load of absolute arses on this messageboard. You can volunteer to get involved or you can not volunteer, I promise nobody is interested to hear you gripe about it.

I don't think there's anything wrong with questions, if you were to volunteer and find out it was being run by the resident moaners and fair weather supporters who have an agenda to hound Pace out or something then it would attract a different type of member.

I don't see what the issue is with saying who the people are trying to set it up, unless it could potentially put members off there would be no reason not to.

Transparency needs to be paramount, the lack of it is exactly what people turned against the FAB for.

[ClaretTony]

I don't think there's anything wrong with questions, if you were to volunteer and find out it was being run by the resident moaners and fair weather supporters who have an agenda to hound Pace out or something then it would attract a different type of member.

I don't see what the issue is with saying who the people are trying to set it up, unless it could potentially put members off there would be no reason not to.

Transparency needs to be paramount, the lack of it is exactly what people turned against the FAB for.

My final word on this issue and I'm sure the potential new group will say more when they can after the next meeting.

There has been a request for volunteers to help set it up, that's what the soft launch was about as much as anything. Some people have come forward already and once they've met then clearly it will be known who will be taking this forward and setting it up. Then you will all know. I'm not sure I could have thought of a different way of doing it, without making it public there might never have been any volunteers.

Interestingly, I didn't ask who was involved when I volunteered, I just did it. If I get in there and see it's a load of dicks with wrong intentions, in my view, then I will withdraw. I believe there will be a meeting in ten days time after which there will, I am sure, be more info. Until then we are going round in circles.

[CoolClaret]

I don't think there's anything wrong with questions, if you were to volunteer and find out it was being run by the resident moaners and fair weather supporters who have an agenda to hound Pace out or something then it would attract a different type of member.

I don't see what the issue is with saying who the people are trying to set it up, unless it could potentially put members off there would be no reason not to.

Transparency needs to be paramount, the lack of it is exactly what people turned against the FAB for.

Why don't you set one up then if you feel this strongly about it? Or better yet, get involved in this and try and influence the group in a way that you see fit.... but it's just easier to criticise from the side, isn't it?

[GetIntoEm]

Why don't you set one up then if you feel this strongly about it? Or better yet, get involved in this and try and influence the group in a way that you see fit.... but it's just easier to criticise from the side, isn't it?

I don't feel the need to set up my own, I don't feel that strongly about it. All I'm asking for is more information rather than blindly showing an interest in something that I've no idea is or not for me.

Like Tony said, we're going round in circles. I'll see what comes out in the future about this group and then decide if I want to be a part of it or not.

[ClaretAL]

It think the simplest way of explaining this from what I can see, is the Association is not yet formed, and an interest to form the Association has been published publicly to advertise to people who may be interested in joining the association. Once the association has been formed, then due diligence questions can be asked and answered, but the members that form the association. If you are interested, and have something to bring to the table, apply, and if you don't like what you see, withdraw.

[Foshiznik]

It seems some can’t quite grasp that by volunteering now, you aren’t entering into a legally binding contract for your time and as and when more information comes out, you’re are just as free to choose to withdraw your interest as much as start helping set it up.

[jedi_master]

It think the simplest way of explaining this from what I can see, is the Association is not yet formed, and an interest to form the Association has been published publicly to advertise to people who may be interested in joining the association. Once the association has been formed, then due diligence questions can be asked and answered, but the members that form the association. If you are interested, and have something to bring to the table, apply, and if you don't like what you see, withdraw.

From the interactions I have had with BFCISA since registering interest and asking a few questions via email, this is exactly the case. There is nothing cloak and dagger about it, it's an opportunity to be involved if you wish to. The fact it is open to literally anyone surely shows there is no agenda whatsoever - I certainly wasn't vetted regards how I feel about X, Y, Z! It;s been made very clear that it is open to all Clarets, all voices, all opinions, all locations.

[CrosspoolClarets]

The bit that I think is unsettling people is knowing that if they put their name forward, who is it that decides if that person will be involved? What if 500 show an interest? There must be a decision maker who can strip that down, and the enquirer may not approve of who that person is. If that isn’t the process it should have been clearer.

Saying that though, there may be no harm in sending an email and deciding what to do after that. Plenty of reasons why a person may not want their name publicly online at this stage and the very idea of this ISA is a positive.

[BurnleyFC ISA]

Good points. That’s why we’re going to be a fully democratic association. No individual will be making any major decision independently.

What if 500 show an interest? How fantastic would that be?

[BurnleyFC ISA]

Still welcoming interest and offers of help

Please email us at bfcisa at gmail dot com

and follow us on ‘X’ @bfcisa

[ClaretPete001]

Think it's a great idea...! I look at things like Toffee TV and we are miles behind.

We have some interesting YouTube channels but they don't seem anywhere near as experienced or as interested as the likes of Toffee TV in the bigger picture of the club - good though they are..!

And an excellent Podcast, which has some very experienced journos on it.

I think a well run supporters group with strong social media links and grown up leadership adds value to the brand beyond what the owners can deliver.

I don't much like this new Burnley attitude of cap doffing to owners; it is not the town I grew up in.

Great idea, and CTs involvement gives it ballast in my opinion.

[BigGaz]

The problem with a new supporters group like this, is the same people who self elected themselves in other groups will eventually run this one, but I hope it works out because the club is so far out of touch with the working class fans it needs sorting.

And by extension the leadership committee ought to be challenging themselves to make sure it doesn't become an echo chamber, and for that they are going to need some of these unsavoury X types that are demonised so much so that there is diversity in opinion.

I would not back, and not feel represented by any fan backed organisation that wants to lean too heavily to trying to get back to or remain how things were in 1973 in the same way I wouldn't by being all in on the youtubing, e-sports, LED signage generation.

[ŽižkovClaret]

If the club dont engage, preferring to maintain ties with the existing bodies who they have relatively easy time with, then what exactly would be the point?

[ClaretTony]

If the club dont engage, preferring to maintain ties with the existing bodies who they have relatively easy time with, then what exactly would be the point?

From what I believe, the hopes are there will be a lot more to it than that.

[ŽižkovClaret]

From what I believe, the hopes are there will be a lot more to it than that.

I hope such optimism proves well founded.

[BurnleyFC ISA]

Thanks to all who have sent an email so far, registering an interest in either supporting or assisting BFCISA.

[BurnleyFC ISA]

Another thank you, to all whom have registered an interest in BFCISA over email. Last evening, four people who had come forward to offer help (by email during the last week) or show a keenness to get the association off the ground, joined the latest meeting and it was felt that really good progress was made.

THIS is an association for our fans, run by our fans: everyone is welcome.

If you’d like to get involved or find out more, please don’t hesitate to get in touch

bfcisa@gmail.com

[Falcon]

I'd interested if everything social media wise wasn't primarily being done on X.

I have a dormant X account that has about 3 posts to its name in 10 years of membership, and most people I know who were active there until recently have left the site since the user experience went downhill following the Musk takeover.

[BurnleyFC ISA]

I'd interested if everything social media wise wasn't primarily being done on X.

I have a dormant X account that has about 3 posts to its name in 10 years of membership, and most people I know who were active there until recently have left the site since the user experience went downhill following the Musk takeover.

Using X (Twitter) and this message board were initially considered to be the best options for getting some information out. That can and will change as the plans progress. The group looking at setting this up has been increased in numbers this week which will allow for more options.

[BurnleyFC ISA]

Thanks to those who have joined our mailing list, offered to help in setting up BFCISA (we’d gladly welcome more offers of help) and those who have fielded questions.

BFCISA now also have a BlueSky account:

@burnleyfcisa.bluesky.social