Mission to Burnley 2

[bfc-njr-2017]

Alternate links for when the ones on YouTube inevitably get taken down...

Episode 1: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/k28w7udSDRmDQFBrpUI

Episode 2: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6qsMaW4oGLuZiBrpUC

Episode 3: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/k3sikUH1KOPuzuBrpUE

Episode 4: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/k69WCLj8gKh7vkBrpUG

[Terry Cochrane]

I think season 2 has seriously damaged Pace’s reputation.

I actually warmed to him. Very loyal to Kompany. Fans in the BL stand obviously appreciate how approachable he has been been throughout.

Kompany himself. Not to finer point on it a PR disaster. But he wont care now he’s moved on. Wasn’t around when Fofana and Cork had a set to in the dressing room when he ran off the pitch for a ****)I wonder if he had deliberately let them go at each other. Abrogation if so.

[NewClaret]

I actually warmed to him. Very loyal to Kompany. Fans in the BL stand obviously appreciate how approachable he has been been throughout.

Kompany himself. Not to finer point on it a PR disaster. But he wont care now he’s moved on. Wasn’t around when Fofana and Cork had a set to in the dressing room when he ran off the pitch for a ****)I wonder if he had deliberately let them go at each other. Abrogation if so.

Agree about Pace.

Main thing I disliked about Kompany was his appalling language. No need for it at all.

[lewishamclaret]

Agree on the language. I'm no shrinking violet, but is the F bomb really necessary every other word? It just diluted the impact of what VK was trying to say for me. I think I'd have been twiddling on my phone like Amdouni whilst letting him rant to himself...

[Jakubclaret]

Agree on the language. I'm no shrinking violet, but is the F bomb really necessary every other word? It just diluted the impact of what VK was trying to say for me. I think I'd have been twiddling on my phone like Amdouni whilst letting him rant to himself...

That’s another that was frequently mentioned yonks ago on the back of series 1 when criticising the necessity but shouted down by the usual mob. Back then it was perceived as necessary as part of a motivational makeup & results wise it probably was effective in the short term but alas not going forwards.

[Dark Cloud]

Just watched all the second series and after the euphoria of the first series (which was brilliant because you always knew how it was going to end) the second series is a bloody tough watch! (because you know how it's going to end!)
Points which struck me:
1. Alan Pace is insanely optimistic, at least outwardly, right up until the final whistle at Tottenham, when virtually every other fan had thrown the towel in by the end of January! I'm not knocking it because being positive is great, but he appears to be borderline delusional! Although as others have said, I do think he comes across well and it's difficult not to like him.
2. Dave Checkitts has it all worked out by Christmas. We've got some excellent young players, but too much emphasis has been put on the "young" and on "potential" and not enough placed on "experience" and "backbone" the latter which he recognises was more associated with Dyche. He reckons only 2 players in the team fit that necessary profile (Matt Williams and Pace don't agree and Williams thinks 5) but Checkitts basically has it spot on tbf (but 5 months too late!)
3. Matt Williams works bloody hard and clearly has the genuine interests of the club at heart whilst also doing his job. I like him.
4. Kompany CONSTANTLY ranting in the dressing room just becomes meaningless. The players mostly aren't good enough at that level, the tactics aren't right and the selections are at times baffling and giving hyperbolic motivational speeches before every game and then ranting at the team after every defeat isn't going to get them winning matches. They've clearly switched off to it and understandably so. If you only win 5 out of 38 matches you're out of your depth and loud sweary ranting isn't going to change that.
5. Lee Mooney seems a proper good guy. Knows the club, gets the club and very pragmatic regarding the club. I like him.

[blatherwickstattoos]

Kompany thinks he’s a tough guy. Smug, arrogant w@nker

[Muzamil.shah]

I know im a little late to the party but ive only just seen the 2nd series.
Things i noted (correct me if im wrong):

- The first two episodes seemed to heavily hint that the fans were the problem because we didnt believe/support the team. Emphasis was placed on the minority of fans leaving games early and glazing over the majority of fans who stayed and supported the team and cheered them off the pitch dispite results.

- Pace was soo heavily invested into the Kompany system that it was impossible to see beyond that.

- Having belief in yourself (to stay up) is one thing but to not consider other possibilities (relegation) is reckless management.

- It seems like Pace has learnt his lesson from appointing manager and not to fall head over heels for someone and to appoint someone who is best for the clubs aspirations not just Pace's.

[GetIntoEm]

I know im a little late to the party but ive only just seen the 2nd series.
Things i noted (correct me if im wrong):

- The first two episodes seemed to heavily hint that the fans were the problem because we didnt believe/support the team. Emphasis was placed on the minority of fans leaving games early and glazing over the majority of fans who stayed and supported the team and cheered them off the pitch dispite results.

- Pace was soo heavily invested into the Kompany system that it was impossible to see beyond that.

- Having belief in yourself (to stay up) is one thing but to not consider other possibilities (relegation) is reckless management.

- It seems like Pace has learnt his lesson from appointing manager and not to fall head over heels for someone and to appoint someone who is best for the clubs aspirations not just Pace's.

To be fair they were right. The amount of people last year leaving early was embarrassing. People defended it on here, but it was shocking.

[BurnleyFC]

To be fair they were right. The amount of people last year leaving early was embarrassing. People defended it on here, but it was shocking.

The fans were incredibly patient and supportive last year.

Not embarrassing or shocking at all.

[deanothedino]

To be fair they were right. The amount of people last year leaving early was embarrassing. People defended it on here, but it was shocking.

So was the product on the pitch though and a drum wasn’t going to fix that

[Shappie]

Alternate links for when the ones on YouTube inevitably get taken down...

Episode 1: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/k28w7udSDRmDQFBrpUI

Episode 2: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6qsMaW4oGLuZiBrpUC

Episode 3: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/k3sikUH1KOPuzuBrpUE

Episode 4: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/k69WCLj8gKh7vkBrpUG

These have been taken down! are they online anywhere else?

Thanks

[HurstGrangeClaret]

To be fair they were right. The amount of people last year leaving early was embarrassing. People defended it on here, but it was shocking.

I left two games early last season- against Arsenal and Newcastle. It was the difference between getting home an hour and a half earlier, or staying to the end of the games when some of our players were clearly just going through the motions.
And just to put that in perspective, the only other game I can remember leaving early was the home game v B@stards, circa 2000, when I had my young son with me and the atmosphere was toxic and threatening (think we got beat 2-0).
If that makes me a fair weather fan, so be it.

[NewClaret]

Seems there will be no series 3 unfortunately

From the latest FAB notes:

[morninbob]

Seems there will be no series 3 unfortunately

From the latest FAB notes:

Where are the fab notes ?

[NewClaret]

Where are the fab notes ?

BFC website > FAB section > Summary of meetings:

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/mor ... ters-clubs

[Clovius Boofus]

Seems there will be no series 3 unfortunately

From the latest FAB notes:

Didn't see the benefit etc? Much more likely that Sky binned it, rather than the club being offered a third series only to turn it down.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Didn't see the benefit etc? Much more likely that Sky binned it, rather than the club being offered a third series only to turn it down.

Possibly, but the lack of advertising or even a mention as far as I could see from the club around season 2 suggests a falling out to me.

[Clovius Boofus]

Possibly, but the lack of advertising or even a mention as far as I could see from the club around season 2 suggests a falling out to me.

Yeah, good point.

[NewClaret]

Didn't see the benefit etc? Much more likely that Sky binned it, rather than the club being offered a third series only to turn it down.

Sky were apparently meeting in September to discuss if there would be a series 3, this meeting was early September so you’re possibly right.

I found it odd how little the club pushed this one though. Might be the relegation or might be that in the end they were already focused on “what’s next” and didn’t want to push it too much.

Really I feel they need to be on Netflix or Disney for this to have the desired impact for the club.

Not a lot of people have Sky, as you can tell from all the requests on here for links, so maybe his view is that they’ll take the learnings of what worked/didn’t from Mission to Burnley and then try and do something better on another provider?

Or maybe Parker doesn’t want cameras following him around which would also be understandable.

[Clovius Boofus]

Really I feel they need to be on Netflix or Disney for this to have the desired impact for the club.

I agree with you about Netflix. Many of those I know, who have ditched Sky over the last couple of years, due to the cost, still have their Netflix subscription.

[jrgbfc]

Last years shambles being broadcast wasn't exactly the best PR for ALK. Also feels like Parker is a bit more old school, probably not too keen on it.

[NewClaret]

I agree with you about Netflix. Many of those I know, who have ditched Sky over the last couple of years, due to the cost, still have their Netflix subscription.

I think the main point is Sky will only be watched by UK fans whereas Netflix is potentially global.

Maybe they’re canning the whole documentary thing and the “other opportunities” are something different. Or maybe what’s been done with Sky has proven the potential to say a Netflix or Disney or Amazon, opening up options for a more global audience.

Personally I’d like to see something continue, and disagree with jrgbfc’s point above (failure is part of professional sport, probably makes better tele, and any PR is good PR as the saying goes)… but I think a monthly episode as the season goes would be better than releasing 4 at the end when everyone knows how it all ends.

[jrgbfc]

Read today Netflix are filming a behind the scenes doc at Plymouth this season. Could be interesting if Rooney ends up getting potted.