Where will we finish ?

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Where will we finish ?

Post by ClaretsPadiham » Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:43 am

Simple really what position will we finish in the table ?

I’ll go 14th.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by MDWat » Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:46 am

5th

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:52 am

Half way or just above should be the aim

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by AmbleClaret » Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:56 am

7th

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Stonehouse » Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:02 am

Bottom if we don’t find another 27 points

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Vincent'sCap » Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:06 am

2nd
When Parker gets the bullet at Christmas along with Dyche at Everton cue Dyche the Messiah returning to the Turf and everything will be rosy again.
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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:10 am

If we keep Parker? I'm going 12th.

Pot him at Christmas and get someone more effective in? 4th.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:25 am

Top
-if-
We keep Parker
Get the injured players back
Buy well in Jan

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Foshiznik » Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:26 am

3rd

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by claret2018 » Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:27 am

2nd
When Parker gets the bullet at Christmas along with Kompany at Bayern cue Vincent the Messiah returning to the Turf and everything will be rosy again.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by hoosier-daddy » Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:20 am

For me it's now top 6. That may change with players back from injury and 1-2 new players in January.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by burnley007 » Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:22 am

With Parker - I genuinely dread to think, top half at best.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Guller Bull » Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:25 am

3rd

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by HahaYeah » Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:26 am

With the team as it is now, at least second.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:28 am

Unless things change, 8th

Sad really because the season started with such optimism

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Stproc » Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:03 pm

I believed it would be 1st, then we sold the team.
Then I believed top 2.
Now, it looks like we may struggle for top 6.
But, if we get some players back, they can get fit & find some form then maybe…

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by The Shire Claret » Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:11 pm

1st

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by warksclaret » Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:17 pm

Providing we dont collapse between now and the window and can bring in a couple of forwards with some sort of English goal scoring record, we should finish top 6. I hate to say, just cannot see us overtaking Leeds or Sheff Utd with our lack of goal power

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Shaggy » Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:23 pm

On current trajectory outside the top 6 which would be a disaster and Parker should be removed of his duties. Anything less than promotion is a failure with our budget.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by bfcjg » Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:43 pm

On current form about 10th.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Swizzlestick » Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:52 pm

Unless there’s a radical change in tactical setup, mid table.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by TsarBomba » Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:01 pm

I’m going to go between 8th and 10th.

The January window will be very telling with regards to the finances, especially if we’re drifting.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by RVclaret » Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:01 pm

If this injury crisis continues then it’ll be a struggle to make the play offs, if we get creative players back (Benson/Ramsey/Tresor/Redmond) and get Foster & Flemming paired together then we can push for top 2. Parkerball needs some technicians it seems and our squad right now isn’t good enough for it.

——————-Trafford
Roberts Worrall* Esteve Pires
—————Cullen—Brownhill
Redmond—Flemming—Koleosho
———————-Foster

With bench options varying (on fitness) of Benson, Tresor, Ramsey, Anthony, Sarmiento.

*appreciate CJ has been great but Worrall adds experience needed in my view.

This team is more than good enough to get promotion but the team we’ve had for the last 2 probably isn’t.
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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by what now ! » Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:03 pm

top, keep the faith !!! although it is getting back to the sort of football feeling we got towards the end of Dyche's time in charge

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:04 pm

I honestly have no idea. Heart says 2nd. Head says 7th. This is based on current evidence and without the hindsight of any potential system changes etc.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Sheedyclaret » Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:45 pm

Mid table with Parker pot him maybe sneak top 2 or a playoff

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by burnley007 » Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:43 pm

Sheedyclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:45 pm
Mid table with Parker pot him maybe sneak top 2 or a playoff
The big question is, does Alan Pace agree with you and many others?
I have a lot of respect and belief in our chairman and I just can't imagine him being very pleased with seeing our own fans losing interest when he has spent so much time trying to get neutral fans on board across the world.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:58 pm

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Turftalkers mentor » Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:00 pm

Vincent'sCap wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:06 am
2nd
When Parker gets the bullet at Christmas along with Dyche at Everton cue Dyche the Messiah returning to the Turf and everything will be rosy again.
Hallelujah
There is hope
Get the main man back

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Holtyclaret » Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:05 pm

Top 3

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:29 am

At the rate we are going below our friends from down the road which is unthinkable.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by colner » Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:43 am

Current form suggests 10th,but get injured players back/signings in Jan,play offs at best. We are due a play off disappointment,so can see us playing in the Championship again next season anyway

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by RVclaret » Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:46 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:29 am
At the rate we are going below our friends from down the road which is unthinkable.
I know it’s all doom and gloom but what was the logic used to reach this prediction? By definition of ‘at this rate’ we’d finish on 81 points and they’d have 67.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:50 am

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:46 am
I know it’s all doom and gloom but what was the logic used to reach this prediction? By definition of ‘at this rate’ we’d finish on 81 points and they’d have 67.
We are going backwards.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by CaptJohn » Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:14 am

Top half. Pretty toothless at present. Getting picked off by weaker teams with a fairly simple plan. Defend in numbers and hit us on the break. We'll do better when teams come onto us and we have space to run into.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by RVclaret » Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:15 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:50 am
We are going backwards.
Appreciate Millwall was a real bad one but, to me, the issue is we can’t seem to string several ‘good’ performances together, which doesn’t necessarily indicate going backwards. This chart showing our expected goal difference over the season highlights this. We have a few games of improvement then a real stinker. But the general trend has been marginally higher since game week 4 (black dotted line).
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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:47 am

CaptJohn wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:14 am
Top half. Pretty toothless at present. Getting picked off by weaker teams with a fairly simple plan. Defend in numbers and hit us on the break. We'll do better when teams come onto us and we have space to run into.
But why would any team come at us when they know what are weaknesses are. The better teams have better coaches so even they will look to prey on our shortcomings.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by NewClaret » Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:47 am

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:15 am
Appreciate Millwall was a real bad one but, to me, the issue is we can’t seem to string several ‘good’ performances together, which doesn’t necessarily indicate going backwards. This chart showing our expected goal difference over the season highlights this. We have a few games of improvement then a real stinker. But the general trend has been marginally higher since game week 4 (black dotted line).
Interesting chart again, RV.

Tally’s really with what my eyes are telling me which is we were getting very marginally better game by game but had a few stinkers thrown in. I do think the progression is too marginal vs the players he’s had at his disposal though. I think vs West Brom he’s going to need to do something fairly pivotal to show he’s not going to keep producing the same every week. Cool’s idea on the team thread of going to a midfield two might be the answer.

I think there will be questions being asked about Parker now around Turf Moor. Whether that will be from investors to Pace or by Pace himself, I’m not sure, but I’d expect they’ll have all the data points like this to consider and support their decisions. Far more than we have as fans, anyway.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Elizabeth » Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:00 am

I wonder what the Leicester fans were saying last season when they went through a spell of 10 games losing 6 and drawing 1 to pick up 10 points out of 30. Whatever it was it didn't matter they won the league if my memory is correct.
Look it's not great at the moment but perhaps a little more faith is needed.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Gp8419 » Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:09 am

Top 6 easily-we are playing very negatively and look at our position! He needs to change the way we are playing right now we could and should be winning some of these games by half time it’s a crap league. No matter what people say the likes of Trafford esteve ,brownhill,Cullen ,koleosho and foster are as good as anything at this level,it’s just tactics.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Quicknick » Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:05 am

1st.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Les latcham fan club » Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:26 am

Parker stays around 12th

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Quicknick » Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:32 am

Les latcham fan club wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:26 am
Parker stays around 12th
I was always a fan of Les Latcham, but I don't get your post. Parker stays around 12th? He's never finished 12th. Whoops! I get you now. If Parker stays...

My mistake, but I disagree with you.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by dibraidio » Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:09 am

Ignoring the first two games, 17 points from 11. Averaged out over the season that's 68 plus the 6 from the first two.
74 points is enough for 6th or 7th so if we're lucky we get in the play-offs. We only need to turn 4 draws into wins to be on 82 and in with a shout of automatic. Fine margins. It took the team 12 games to click under VK and they'd had a full pre-season and not changed half the squad after the second game.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:11 am

10th if we keep playing the same way.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by BurnleyFC » Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:07 pm

Sixth, and anything less is abject failure.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by Gp8419 » Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:04 pm

dibraidio wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:09 am
Ignoring the first two games, 17 points from 11. Averaged out over the season that's 68 plus the 6 from the first two.
74 points is enough for 6th or 7th so if we're lucky we get in the play-offs. We only need to turn 4 draws into wins to be on 82 and in with a shout of automatic. Fine margins. It took the team 12 games to click under VK and they'd had a full pre-season and not changed half the squad after the second game.
I disagree with people keep mentioning the first two games. There was so many games were we are having the ball and not getting hurt defensively one bit, your thinking just push the accelerator and have a go but they bloody don’t. Blackburn, Oxford , qpr to name a few we was in control practically the whole match just seems there to frightened to push it.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by CnBtruntru » Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:18 pm

I'm guessing somewhere in the championship

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:24 pm

We've played the bottom 6 and only 2 of the top 7.
Mid-table the way things are going.

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Re: Where will we finish ?

Post by KRBFC » Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:07 pm

We’ve had easy fixtures so far and I think when teams realise they don’t need to fear us we’re in deep trouble of imploding. This league is proper shite too, an even lower standard than when we won the title.

If Parker stays 6th, if Kompany was here 1st.

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