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Striker search

Post by alwaysaclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:09 am

Think we're all unaminously agreed we need a striker, anybody got any in mind, who looks within our budget /reach and may be interested in coming to us in January ?

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Re: Striker search

Post by hoosier-daddy » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:18 am

I'd be looking at loans too. January can be a good time as they know they aren't getting enough football.

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Re: Striker search

Post by warksclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:21 am

hoosier-daddy wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:18 am
I'd be looking at loans too. January can be a good time as they know they aren't getting enough football.
We may have used our loan quota already

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Re: Striker search

Post by hoosier-daddy » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:22 am

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:21 am
We may have used our loan quota already
Ah wasn't aware of that.

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Re: Striker search

Post by RVclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:23 am

Doesn’t look to be any clear runaway scorers in the division this year. Sainz has done well at Norwich but most of his goals been absolute bangers from distance so you wonder how long that will last.

Brighton are set to make Evan Ferguson available for loan in January, he’d be the ideal option but you’d think a Prem club at the lower ends may take him. Depending on funds and our league position, Kevin Denkey at Cercle Brugge would be an interesting option albeit he’s been linked with Lille.
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Re: Striker search

Post by BigGaz » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:28 am

Evan Ferguson. Considered by the BHA fans to have regressed and In need of minutes that he's not going to get.

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Re: Striker search

Post by JohnDearyMe » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:34 am

Peterborough Utd always seem to have a good supply line of decent strikers. Currently have the League One top scorer again

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Re: Striker search

Post by The Shire Claret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:40 am

Danny Ings
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Re: Striker search

Post by KRBFC » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:46 am

Whittaker for wide right and Morris from Luton upfront.

Suddenly we’ve got goals in this side.

I think Cannon looks a good player, on loan from Leicester at Stoke. Only 21, I’m surprised Leicester signed him from Everton after his loan spell given he didn’t feature much for Leicester during promotion.

Adebayo at Luton, not had a great season but neither have Luton. Knows where the onion sack is, would certainly give us a target to get on the end of those crosses and endless corners.
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Re: Striker search

Post by jedi_master » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:09 am

Not sure what our budget is but we don't seem like we have spent a lot of money comparative to the fortunes we brought in. I would be hoping we could buy a top striker for this division to be honest. What are Norwich's finances like? I'd go for Josh Sargent.

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Re: Striker search

Post by IanMcL » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:09 am

Playing Jay Rod as a striker, whose mission is to get goals, would increase our goal tally. Currently, we make him run about and striker duty is limited, to say the least. Act as a poacher - Jimmy Greaves style. We have plenty of running in the team.

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Re: Striker search

Post by Dyched » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:10 am

We don’t need anymore bloody young players that “might” turn out good in 3/4/5 years. We NEED a goalscorer now.

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Re: Striker search

Post by GetIntoEm » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:17 am

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:09 am
Playing Jay Rod as a striker, whose mission is to get goals, would increase our goal tally. Currently, we make him run about and striker duty is limited, to say the least. Act as a poacher - Jimmy Greaves style. We have plenty of running in the team.
we clearly dont need a poacher! we dont play in a setup that needs a poacher. We need someone who can drop deep and link play. We need a pound shop Harry Kane

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Re: Striker search

Post by Dyched » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:20 am

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:09 am
Playing Jay Rod as a striker, whose mission is to get goals, would increase our goal tally. Currently, we make him run about and striker duty is limited, to say the least. Act as a poacher - Jimmy Greaves style. We have plenty of running in the team.
Jay Rod up top, tell the wingers get the ball in the box early as possible, Brownhill, Flemming and the opposite winger in and around the box for the second balls.

Easy peasy. I can take over whenever you want.

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Re: Striker search

Post by IanMcL » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:21 am

Dyched wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:20 am
Jay Rod up top, tell the wingers get the ball in the box early as possible, Brownhill, Flemming and the opposite winger in and around the box for the second balls.

Easy peasy. I can take over whenever you want.
That's it

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Re: Striker search

Post by willsclarets » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:22 am

Assuming we can have a loan, which some of these would have to be:

Ings, Chermiti, Ogawa (NEC in Holland), Bertaccini (Belgium)

Or a more domestic option like KRBFC. I thought Cannon was a decent option in the summer, but I seem to remember a lot of opposition to that on here at the time!

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Re: Striker search

Post by Anonymous Claret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:30 am

BigGaz wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:28 am
Evan Ferguson. Considered by the BHA fans to have regressed and In need of minutes that he's not going to get.
Ferguson would be a great loan signing although I doubt that Brighton would let him go or that he would drop down to the Championship.

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Re: Striker search

Post by KRBFC » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:35 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:23 am
Kevin Denkey at Cercle Brugge would be an interesting option albeit he’s been linked with Lille.
Denkey looks like he’s going to join Fc Cincinnati in the MLS for $15m

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Re: Striker search

Post by Hbclaret007 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:35 am

willsclarets wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:22 am
Assuming we can have a loan, which some of these would have to be:

Ings, Chermiti, Ogawa (NEC in Holland), Bertaccini (Belgium)

Or a more domestic option like KRBFC. I thought Cannon was a decent option in the summer, but I seem to remember a lot of opposition to that on here at the time!
A lot of experts on here didn't rate gyokeres. 😕
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Re: Striker search

Post by kentonclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:36 am

Signing a proven striker in January will probably come with a massive price tag and we may well end up paying well over the odds, especially if the selling club are involved in a relegation scrap in the lower half of the table. We have repeatedly been told that “January is the worst time to try and buy players” and that the fee for the player involved is “well above our valuation”.

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Re: Striker search

Post by kentonclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:41 am

Hbclaret007 wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:35 am
A lot of experts on here didn't rate gyokeres. 😕
When he scored his hat trick against Manchester City I looked back at some of the discussions on here and there were numerous posts writing him off as a very limited striker who had found his level in the Championship. :lol:
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Re: Striker search

Post by RVclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:04 am

jedi_master wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:09 am
Not sure what our budget is but we don't seem like we have spent a lot of money comparative to the fortunes we brought in. I would be hoping we could buy a top striker for this division to be honest. What are Norwich's finances like? I'd go for Josh Sargent.
He’s injured until January and this seems a regular occurance for him.

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Re: Striker search

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:15 am

Can only imagine we’ll look at loans with options to buy?

Ings comes on a lot for WHU, I can’t see them letting him go when he plays that role for them. Ferguson I can’t see dropping to the Championship but that’d be a huge signing if it could be arranged. In reality, if it’s a confidence issue, maybe a short run at this level would do him good as per Trafford.

Two others we’ve been linked with in the past - Mikautadze & Gift Orban not playing much at Lyon, maybe one could leave.

Feel both Tella and Bruun Larsen could play up front for us though and feel like more realistic signings since they’re both not playing?

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Re: Striker search

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:20 am

We need a striker, but not as desperately as we need players to put the ball in the box.
Both our FBs are better at crossing the ball than our wingers, a sad indictment of this team.
It's so bloody frustrating watching us work the ball into good areas, only to waste the opportunity with awful negative decisions.

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Re: Striker search

Post by jedi_master » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:23 am

Tella has only started one game this season and has only made a total of 122 minutes in the league. I have no idea if there is a deal to be done but loan with obligation to buy upon promotion (with probably a heavy loan fee) is surely worth at the very least enquiring about? The question is, was the player in love with Burnley or Vincent Kompany? Strikes me as the type of signing Pace would love to make to get the fans up for the second half of the season.
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Re: Striker search

Post by Anonymous Claret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:47 am

jedi_master wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:23 am
Tella has only started one game this season and has only made a total of 122 minutes in the league. I have no idea if there is a deal to be done but loan with obligation to buy upon promotion (with probably a heavy loan fee) is surely worth at the very least enquiring about? The question is, was the player in love with Burnley or Vincent Kompany? Strikes me as the type of signing Pace would love to make to get the fans up for the second half of the season.
I think that boat has sailed sadly. I doubt that Tella like Ferguson at BHA would drop to the Championship . It only needs an injury or two at Leverkusen and Tella could be playing a lot more first team football in the Bundesliga and Champions League. If we were to be promoted I think that we would have a chance of signing him permanently or on loan. I would be delighted with Tella or Ferguson.

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Re: Striker search

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:51 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:20 am
We need a striker, but not as desperately as we need players to put the ball in the box.
Both our FBs are better at crossing the ball than our wingers, a sad indictment of this team.
It's so bloody frustrating watching us work the ball into good areas, only to waste the opportunity with awful negative decisions.
That’s why I’d love to see us go for both Tella and Bruun Larsen.

Both could play right, or up front, so in the two of them you probably fix a few things.

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Re: Striker search

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:55 am

Anonymous Claret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:47 am
I think that boat has sailed sadly. I doubt that Tella like Ferguson at BHA would drop to the Championship . It only needs an injury or two at Leverkusen and Tella could be playing a lot more first team football in the Bundesliga and Champions League. If we were to be promoted I think that we would have a chance of signing him permanently or on loan. I would be delighted with Tella or Ferguson.
Fair point about the injuries.

I suppose it depends whether Tella is prepared to hang around in case. He’s already been quite vocal about wanting more game time. We all assume players get what they want so if that were true here, you could expect he’ll be leaving.

Then it’s a case of where he would go. Having been a substitute for the last 18 months I can’t imagine he’s high on many top league shopping lists to be honest. A good run with us might put him back in the window though, even if we didn’t go up.

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Re: Striker search

Post by CoolClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:01 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:46 am
Whittaker for wide right and Morris from Luton upfront.

Suddenly we’ve got goals in this side.

I think Cannon looks a good player, on loan from Leicester at Stoke. Only 21, I’m surprised Leicester signed him from Everton after his loan spell given he didn’t feature much for Leicester during promotion.

Adebayo at Luton, not had a great season but neither have Luton. Knows where the onion sack is, would certainly give us a target to get on the end of those crosses and endless corners.
I agree with all of this, which is a rarity!

Morris is a no brainer, as is Whittaker. They would instantly improve our side. Morris easily has another 4 years at a good level and is the type of striker that is needed in this system.

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Re: Striker search

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:02 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:23 am
Tella has only started one game this season and has only made a total of 122 minutes in the league. I have no idea if there is a deal to be done but loan with obligation to buy upon promotion (with probably a heavy loan fee) is surely worth at the very least enquiring about? The question is, was the player in love with Burnley or Vincent Kompany? Strikes me as the type of signing Pace would love to make to get the fans up for the second half of the season.
Good question. Just my feeling but when he did his interview saying he expected to join Burnley, I got the feeling he felt more strongly about the club than just the manager.

While not wanting to dig this sorry situation up again, his daughters social media post probably shows he was loved by the club even if they didn’t sign him and I think Pace has since hosted him at an away match since, suggesting he’s in contact and no hard feelings.

I agree with you that’s he’s exactly the type of player Pace would want to get in January to give the club and fans a lift.
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Re: Striker search

Post by Turftalkers mentor » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:06 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:09 am
Playing Jay Rod as a striker, whose mission is to get goals, would increase our goal tally. Currently, we make him run about and striker duty is limited, to say the least. Act as a poacher - Jimmy Greaves style. We have plenty of running in the team.
You’ve got my vote !!

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Re: Striker search

Post by Turftalkers mentor » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:08 pm

Dyched wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:20 am
Jay Rod up top, tell the wingers get the ball in the box early as possible, Brownhill, Flemming and the opposite winger in and around the box for the second balls.

Easy peasy. I can take over whenever you want.
Common sense .

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Re: Striker search

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:08 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:01 pm
I agree with all of this, which is a rarity!

Morris is a no brainer, as is Whittaker. They would instantly improve our side. Morris easily has another 4 years at a good level and is the type of striker that is needed in this system.
Can’t see either coming cheap though?

Not sure Whittaker would transform us in the way we need.

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Re: Striker search

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:14 pm

I don’t think striker is our issue at all.

I think it’s our wingers and midfielders that can’t provide service.

I would potentially look at a few lads in these areas.

Poku at Peterborough has 15 goal contributions in 15 games. He’s young is potentially one we can make a profit on. I think he is worth trying as he is an out and out right winger.

Charlie Whittaker at Everton. This lad is bit of a dark horse shout for me. I watched him play against Liverpool under 21s a few weeks back and thought he was an incredible young talent. Thought I would check in on his other stats and he’s scored 8 in 8 this season for the u21s in PL2.

Ondrejka is an interesting one at Antwerp I reckon we could get him for around 8m. I think he would dramatically improve our left wing.

I know this one is probably never ever going to happen but one can hope. Cuypers at left back would be an unbelievable signing.

Last player I would like is Surdez. Real playmaker in attacking midfield. Just the type of player we are missing to unlock defences.

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Re: Striker search

Post by CoolClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:27 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:08 pm
Can’t see either coming cheap though?

Not sure Whittaker would transform us in the way we need.
Depends on the contract situation with Morris - if he doesn't have long left with Luton looking a fair way off they might be keen to sell.

Whittaker? Obafemi part-ex might sweeten it a touch.

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Re: Striker search

Post by EarbyClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:34 pm

I think Morris has about 18 months left

If you look at chances we created yesterday he is someone you would have expected to convert the header from the Pires corner which Flemming directed off target and also to be in the right place to slide onto the low ball Pires put across the six yard box

He scored the goals that got Luton out of this division before and hit double figures in the PL and can take penalties

Agreed we need to work onto the service into the right areas but I think Morris - or someone like him - would make more of what little we are creating at the moment

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Re: Striker search

Post by RVclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:40 pm

Looks like Bruun Larsen is looking for a move in January. While not an out and out striker he does have the intelligence to move into good attacking positions, and would be a natural right sided player (which we lack). He loved it here, I guess it’s whether we can meet the wages & if he’d come to the Champ? Given he’s not getting minutes at Hoffenheim at all he might be happy to return and play.

Imagine a front 4 of

——————————————————Foster
Luca/Anthony/Sarmiento — Flemming — Larsen

Really nice balance there.
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Re: Striker search

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:45 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:27 pm
Depends on the contract situation with Morris - if he doesn't have long left with Luton looking a fair way off they might be keen to sell.

Whittaker? Obafemi part-ex might sweeten it a touch.
Think Obafemi’s contract is up in summer so they’d probably wait for it to expire, but maybe.

FWIW, I did hear that we had a deal agreed but they couldn’t find a replacement. Whether that means it’s very likely we go back in for him or not I don’t know, but he seems to be a winger that cuts in and that’s doing my nut at the moment. He’s also young, so I’d rather we went for a Tella or Bruun Larsen for a different profile with some age/experience to boot.

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Re: Striker search

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:55 pm

EarbyClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:34 pm
I think Morris has about 18 months left

If you look at chances we created yesterday he is someone you would have expected to convert the header from the Pires corner which Flemming directed off target and also to be in the right place to slide onto the low ball Pires put across the six yard box

He scored the goals that got Luton out of this division before and hit double figures in the PL and can take penalties

Agreed we need to work onto the service into the right areas but I think Morris - or someone like him - would make more of what little we are creating at the moment
Agree with all. I’d be very happy with that one but really can’t see Luton selling their best players when they’re in the form/position they’re in. Presumably there would be mutiny amongst the fan base!

I did hear that we enquired about Adebayo in the summer though. Nothing was ever reported so not sure if it was true or not.

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Re: Striker search

Post by CoolClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:07 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:14 pm
I don’t think striker is our issue at all.
It definitely is - there were numerous times yesterday (most notably from the Pires ball across the box) that were screaming for a proper Striker to throw themself at the ball.

No one in the team is making typical 'strikers runs' at the moment - Houtoundji did briefly at West Brom and that's why, for now, I'd persist with him.

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Re: Striker search

Post by AfloatinClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:09 pm

A not young and proven striker who doesn't mind moving in January?????
Maybe that lad who's knocking them in for Notts Forest most weeks?

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Re: Striker search

Post by ecc » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:24 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:36 am
Signing a proven striker in January will probably come with a massive price tag and we may well end up paying well over the odds, especially if the selling club are involved in a relegation scrap in the lower half of the table. We have repeatedly been told that “January is the worst time to try and buy players” and that the fee for the player involved is “well above our valuation”.
Those statements are true.

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Re: Striker search

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:24 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:14 pm
I don’t think striker is our issue at all.

I think it’s our wingers and midfielders that can’t provide service.

I would potentially look at a few lads in these areas.

Poku at Peterborough has 15 goal contributions in 15 games. He’s young is potentially one we can make a profit on. I think he is worth trying as he is an out and out right winger.

Charlie Whittaker at Everton. This lad is bit of a dark horse shout for me. I watched him play against Liverpool under 21s a few weeks back and thought he was an incredible young talent. Thought I would check in on his other stats and he’s scored 8 in 8 this season for the u21s in PL2.

Ondrejka is an interesting one at Antwerp I reckon we could get him for around 8m. I think he would dramatically improve our left wing.

I know this one is probably never ever going to happen but one can hope. Cuypers at left back would be an unbelievable signing.

Last player I would like is Surdez. Real playmaker in attacking midfield. Just the type of player we are missing to unlock defences.
Re: Charlie Whittaker, oddly enough I was thinking the other day about Jan signings and looked at the PL2 top scorers and his name was top. No idea about him but I’d not be against us signing a young lad doing well in PL2, high on confidence. Could be one of those astute signings.

I agree with you that midfield is probably more of an issue than striker but I think Sarmiento in the 10 helps that. Couple of very ambitious and unlikely options:

McAtee - highly rated by Pep and plays but only odd games. Can’t see him leaving or coming here if he did but mention as he probably knows CJ and Traff. He (or someone of his profile) would be perfect. Goalscoring midfielder good in tight spaces.

Chukwumeka - lost his way at Chelsea, rarely plays even in the conference league games. Chelsea apparently wanting £40 in summer and no takers, quelle surprise. He probably knows Humphreys and if he wants to stay in the UK we might be a decent option.

Mention as you said De Cuyper, who’s probably about as likely, but for me we won’t be going for a LB with Pires in the form he’s in. Think our two best chances yesterday came from his corner for Flemming and cross nobody knocked in. I think it’s an equivalent RB that supports the attack, we need. You know any?

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Re: Striker search

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:33 pm

ecc wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:24 pm
Those statements are true.
They are and getting caught in overpaying for either a striker in form, but used to a particular system, or out of another side that needs games to re-find form could be a costly mistake we can ill afford.

On that basis, what would people feel about recalling Obafemi? Getting the odd goal, more than anyone here in a worse side, and free!

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Re: Striker search

Post by alwaysaclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:34 pm

Nobody being repeatedly mentioned, which was partly my reason for posting in the 1st place, doesn't seem to be any standouts making the headlines as is usually the case.

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Re: Striker search

Post by Holtyclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:42 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:40 pm
Looks like Bruun Larsen is looking for a move in January. While not an out and out striker he does have the intelligence to move into good attacking positions, and would be a natural right sided player (which we lack). He loved it here, I guess it’s whether we can meet the wages & if he’d come to the Champ? Given he’s not getting minutes at Hoffenheim at all he might be happy to return and play.

Imagine a front 4 of

——————————————————Foster
Luca/Anthony/Sarmiento — Flemming — Larsen

Really nice balance there.
Larsen started the weekend game for Hoff.

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Re: Striker search

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:43 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:42 pm
Larsen started the weekend game for Hoff.
Unused sub I think. Or at least that’s what Google says.
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Re: Striker search

Post by Holtyclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:45 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:43 pm
Unused sub I think. Or at least that’s what Google says.
Yes my mistake, I’d checked to see if he’d played coincidentally and must have been an old match report.

I would love him back.
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Re: Striker search

Post by RVclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:46 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:42 pm
Larsen started the weekend game for Hoff.
I was just going off this from Florian Plettenberg.

https://x.com/plettigoal/status/1855945 ... 58602?s=46

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Re: Striker search

Post by GetIntoEm » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:48 pm

Would take Jakub back in a flash, top player

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