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Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Mayoclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:08 pm

Interesting comments from Coote following our lockdown match v Liverpool.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/11/11/premier- ... -21970452/

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Rick_Muller » Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:13 pm

just when you thought all referee's were ar5eholes this comes along to spoil that viewpoint
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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:26 pm

looks like he needs a better friend
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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:32 pm

Best to come out with stuff like that when you have retired from officiating, otherwise people might think you haven't got the brains you were born with.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:51 pm

Liverpool fans will laugh this off I’m sure.
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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by tarkys_ears » Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:53 pm

...problem?!

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:00 pm

he's been suspended with immediate effect - just a reminder players call refs **** and ***** every single week with zero punishment
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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by martin_p » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:02 pm

Did anything happen to Robertson after the comments he’s heard making, can’t remember.
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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:02 pm

Players aren't supposed to be neutral though

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by martin_p » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:05 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:02 pm
Players aren't supposed to be neutral though
But they are expected to respect the officials.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:05 pm

martin_p wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:02 pm
Did anything happen to Robertson after the comments he’s heard making, can’t remember.
No. Coote didn’t mention it in his report.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:07 pm

He's absolutely spot on with his comments. Klopp is a very nasty, cowardly piece of work.

Ban him for a week or two and then move on. The punishment should be much the same as for a player or manager found to be using foul and abusive language towards officials.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:12 pm

You can’t knock his judgement of character.
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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:13 pm

martin_p wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:05 pm
But they are expected to respect the officials.
They are but I was replying to Vegas' comment.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by dsr » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:15 pm

martin_p wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:05 pm
But they are expected to respect the officials.
Only in theory. In practice, if a ref applied the rules about foul and abusive language (and abandoned a game as a result due to shortage of players) the FA/PL wouldn't back him at all.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by RVclaret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:17 pm

Not sure he’s said too much wrong really. It’s obviously brainless to be making these comments on a video in the first place but he’s only saying about Klopp what everyone else thinks, and it’s behind closed doors (or at least it was).

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Row x » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:18 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:17 pm
Not sure he’s said too much wrong really. It’s obviously brainless to be making these comments on a video in the first place but he’s only saying about Klopp what everyone else thinks, and it’s behind closed doors (or at least it was).
He deserves sacking for being so thick to allow it to be filmed

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:22 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:02 pm
Players aren't supposed to be neutral though
thing is if the video said "Klopp is a really nice guy, I always found him polite and Liverpool are a great side" then nobody would say "he's supposed to be neutral"

Coote was foolish to do the video but he shouldn't lose his job for saying what he believes. Cancel culture is dreadful
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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:22 pm
thing is if the video said "Klopp is a really nice guy, I always found him polite and Liverpool are a great side" then nobody would say "he's supposed to be neutral"
Yeah, that's a good point, never thought of it like that.
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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by gawthorpe_view » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:29 pm

Sean Dyche had Klopp sussed.
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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by ClaretJimmy » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:34 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:29 pm
Sean Dyche had Klopp sussed.
Think that's the game that Coote is annoyed about, when Dyche told Klopp to 'get lost' when marching down the tunnel.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Hipper » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:44 pm

martin_p wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:02 pm
Did anything happen to Robertson after the comments he’s heard making, can’t remember.
Robertson didn't say much wrong. He may have swore but, as we were told on a referee's course, that is 'industrial language'. If he'd called Coote names by using swear words that would be different. That would be 'foul and abusive language'. He didn't.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by dsr » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:16 pm

I believe he described Klopp as "German". When accompanies by insults, won't that qualify for excess penalties as being racist?

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by gawthorpe_view » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:32 pm

ClaretJimmy wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:34 pm
Think that's the game that Coote is annoyed about, when Dyche told Klopp to 'get lost' when marching down the tunnel.
Yes I think it is, we won 1-0 with an Ashley Barnes penalty.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by pauliopaulio » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:57 pm

For being daft enough to be deliberately filmed expressing his opinions then he gets what he deserved.

I thought it was going to be a hidden-camera type job. He’s been stitched up properly by his “mate” but what a plonker.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Row x » Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:06 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:29 pm
Sean Dyche had Klopp sussed.
Which is the game he's referring to....he was correct, but don't be so idiotic to let someone film you

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:10 pm

He's now trying to claim the video is a deep fake. Just stop digging you plonker

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:02 pm

He's saying he does not recall the contents of the entire conversation.  Yes, stupid Coote needs to stop digging.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Indecisive » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:46 pm

It’s just odd. Do get saying stuff like this conversationally amongst friends probably happens a lot. However in his position why say that on camera?? It’s just so ill advised and he’s basically committed career suicide on something so daft.

If whoever had released that is a friend of his, my god, he needs to look at the company he keeps.

Actually feel a bit sorry for someone who is going to lose their job and name be completely dragged for the mud over something so petty.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by GetIntoEm » Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:05 pm

Clearly been in the CFS. He's wired to the eyeballs

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:50 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:05 pm
Clearly been in the CFS. He's wired to the eyeballs
Must admit that was my first thought! Just a bit weird all round.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:39 pm

He is one of the worst officials since Moss retired. He was really bad last Dyche season first game against Brighton.

Hes got better recently but still a poor ref.

Really silly saying all this on a video, was always going to bite him on the arse.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by steve1264b » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:43 am

Coote makes the allegation that Klopp said he lied, id like to know in what context and what action was taken against Klopp.

Also Coote didnt get another game for 3 years. Why was that? Is this another situation where a big club have influenced appointments?

He got the penalty claim by Liverpool right so why was it so long before he got a game.

Klopp and Robertson behaved like tired toddlers at the final whistle!

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by martin_p » Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:40 am

Let’s face it, the real issue in that match wasn’t the referee, it was that the mighty Liverpool hadn’t beat little old Burnley. That was what was gnawing at Robertson and Klopp. We saw countless managers of ‘big’ clubs lose it over the years when they’ve failed to beat us, always the referee’s fault, never because we were a good team, never because the ‘big’ team had underperformed. Klopp has always been good at deflecting attention away from his own, and his team’s, inadequacies.
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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by jlup1980 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:15 am

Hipper wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:44 pm
Robertson didn't say much wrong. He may have swore but, as we were told on a referee's course, that is 'industrial language'. If he'd called Coote names by using swear words that would be different. That would be 'foul and abusive language'. He didn't.
Didn't say much wrong? This is just the bit you can work out on the TV.

"How's that not a penalty is a disgrace. How the **** is that not a penalty? You didn't see ****ing anything? You didn't see anything the whole game, apart from booking them in the last minute. **** me! What's the point of having you in the middle? What's the point in having you? **** me!"

God knows how they were speaking to him in the tunnel. The fact he doesn't have a go at Robertson suggests that Klopp was far worse.

Coote is an idiot for being filmed. He's been sold out by his so-called friends. He's bang on with his comments though. Would you want to work with anyone showing you such little respect?

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Stalbansclaret » Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:54 am

Lost all respect for Coote when he caved into Oliver on VAR and gave that ludicrous penalty to West Ham the other week when Danny Ings fell into De Ligt. Having said that , and recognising that this video is pathetic and he has been unbelievably stupid, it’s daft to believe that refs won’t dislike certain managers and characters within the game. As long as they leave that behind when they referee games does it matter ? He ref’d a Liverpool win just this last weekend.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:02 am

The so called friend who filmed it/released it (at least to others who may have gone public) has been outed on twitter.

No doubt he will get a rough ride .

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Hipper » Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:57 am

jlup1980 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:15 am
Didn't say much wrong? This is just the bit you can work out on the TV.

"How's that not a penalty is a disgrace. How the **** is that not a penalty? You didn't see ****ing anything? You didn't see anything the whole game, apart from booking them in the last minute. **** me! What's the point of having you in the middle? What's the point in having you? **** me!"

God knows how they were speaking to him in the tunnel. The fact he doesn't have a go at Robertson suggests that Klopp was far worse.

Coote is an idiot for being filmed. He's been sold out by his so-called friends. He's bang on with his comments though. Would you want to work with anyone showing you such little respect?
Clearly Robertson was angry and that is understandable. You have to make reasonable allowances for heat of the moment stuff. Nothing he said in your quote is really abusive (possibly 'what's the point in having you?, which is OK by me). If Robertson had said to Coote 'you are a f.....g useless. w.....r' then that is foul AND abusive.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by dsr » Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:02 am

Hipper wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:57 am
Clearly Robertson was angry and that is understandable. You have to make reasonable allowances for heat of the moment stuff. Nothing he said in your quote is really abusive (possibly 'what's the point in having you?, which is OK by me). If Robertson had said to Coote 'you are a f.....g useless. w.....r' then that is foul AND abusive.
If someone (your boss or a colleague) approached you in your workplace and said that to you, wouldn't you think it was abusive? An industrial tribunal surely would.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by bfcjg » Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:25 am

Of all the clubs,managers and fan bases to slag off he has chosen the ones who will make sure this clumsy observation have legs and it will go on and on and on. It'll end up in parliament and no doubt no win no fee Merseyside solicitors will be looking at it for distress claims.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Hipper » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:06 pm

dsr wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:02 am
If someone (your boss or a colleague) approached you in your workplace and said that to you, wouldn't you think it was abusive? An industrial tribunal surely would.
Yes of course, in general, but the circumstances are different. Passions are high. Surely a football fan can understand that. If you cautioned a player every time he said 'f..k' there would be no-one left on the pitch.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by dsr » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:49 pm

Hipper wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:06 pm
Yes of course, in general, but the circumstances are different. Passions are high. Surely a football fan can understand that. If you cautioned a player every time he said 'f..k' there would be no-one left on the pitch.
If any rugby player (league or union) said that to the ref, he would be off like a shot and with a several week ban. Are passions not high in rugby?

Besides, that wasn't my point. No doubt passions were high, but that doesn't mean telling any person that he is a waste of space and useless at his job, is not abusive.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by ecc » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:55 pm

David Coote is sat on a sofa with a friend in the shocking leaked footage

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by aclaretinstevenage » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:02 pm

I'd love to know what the reaction to this would be had the club Coote slagged off been Burnley and the Manager any of ours!

The Scouse hatred campaign is alive and well on here! :)

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by fidelcastro » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:02 pm

ecc wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:55 pm
David Coote is sat on a sofa with a friend in the shocking leaked footage
You mean an ex-friend?

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:37 pm

Not the first time Coote has been suspended but this should be the last time. Surely he will not referee again after this.

Whatever his view on Klopp, and I have to say it doesn’t seem too far from mine or Sean Dyche’s, but he’s supposed to be and required to be above all that. He’ll never be trusted by clubs, managers or players ever again.
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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:59 pm

It’s a great video, to be fair.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by Hipper » Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:51 pm

Just seen the video on YouTube. Surely he is on drugs of sorts?

He's surely finished, whatever the reason.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by martin_p » Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:21 pm

Hipper wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:51 pm
Just seen the video on YouTube. Surely he is on drugs of sorts?

He's surely finished, whatever the reason.
He’s either out of his head on something or the video is a deep fake. Surely there’s no way that someone in possession of all their faculties would say such career ending things on camera.

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Re: Ref David Coote's views on Klopp/Liverpool

Post by chipbutty » Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:46 pm

He looks off his tits!

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