Our new Ashley Barnes sh**housery expert.

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Re: Our new Ashley Barnes sh**housery expert.

Post by bfccrazy » Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:43 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:48 pm
Exactly this. A good wind up merchant doesn’t get themselves more wound up than the opponent they’re winding up.
Something Tark learned to do over time... Would get wound up early on and I remember Glenn Murray making the most of it - he then seemed to turn it around well

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Re: Our new Ashley Barnes sh**housery expert.

Post by bobinho » Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:44 pm

Hannibal is about as far from an shithousery expert as I could possibly imagine.

Seriously. He’s miles off…
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Re: Our new Ashley Barnes sh**housery expert.

Post by Stonehouse » Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:57 pm

bobinho wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:44 pm
Hannibal is about as far from an shithousery expert as I could possibly imagine.

Seriously. He’s miles off…
The lads more than 10 yrs younger than Barnes give the lad a chance.

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Re: Our new Ashley Barnes sh**housery expert.

Post by ecc » Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:44 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:59 pm
There’s a few different sites but I like using Whoscored match centre as you can directly compare players.
Not having a go, Newcastle93 but I once questioned Whoscored - as in I sent an email which was never answered - after watching a match. French L1 some years back. A full-back I rated put in six or seven crosses in a match I watched. On their site they had it down as just two crosses.

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Re: Our new Ashley Barnes sh**housery expert.

Post by agreenwood » Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:35 am

ecc wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:44 pm
Not having a go, Newcastle93 but I once questioned Whoscored - as in I sent an email which was never answered - after watching a match. French L1 some years back. A full-back I rated put in six or seven crosses in a match I watched. On their site they had it down as just two crosses.
If there’s little money in football journalism, there’s even less in data analysis, particularly outside the top leagues.

You’d imagine many of these sites used pooled data. They certainly can’t all afford to pay 100s of individuals to collate stats live every weekend.

I guess the stats are therefore only as good as the lowly paid collators or AI they’ve bought to try and collate them automatically.

It’s bound to be error strewn.

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Re: Our new Ashley Barnes sh**housery expert.

Post by aggi » Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:15 am

agreenwood wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:35 am
If there’s little money in football journalism, there’s even less in data analysis, particularly outside the top leagues.

You’d imagine many of these sites used pooled data. They certainly can’t all afford to pay 100s of individuals to collate stats live every weekend.

I guess the stats are therefore only as good as the lowly paid collators or AI they’ve bought to try and collate them automatically.

It’s bound to be error strewn.
WhoScored use Opta who are probably the market leaders.

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Re: Our new Ashley Barnes sh**housery expert.

Post by Jamesy » Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:07 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:57 pm
The lads more than 10 yrs younger than Barnes give the lad a chance.
And at the same time let’s all stop going over the top about a young player that looks nothing more than bang average at this stage in his career.

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Re: Our new Ashley Barnes sh**housery expert.

Post by bobinho » Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:05 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:57 pm
The lads more than 10 yrs younger than Barnes give the lad a chance.
We’re not talking about a measurable “skill” here… we’re talking about a lad being a bit of a wind up merchant. And in the grand scheme of things, he’s an amateur. But that’s ok, no one’s marking him down on it. It’s merely an observation…

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Re: Our new Ashley Barnes sh**housery expert.

Post by Stonehouse » Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:02 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:07 pm
And at the same time let’s all stop going over the top about a young player that looks nothing more than bang average at this stage in his career.
Not going over top however how many bang average players did Sean Dyche have when we were 7th in the Premier league and he managed to get a tune out of them?

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Re: Our new Ashley Barnes sh**housery expert.

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:23 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:02 pm
Not going over top however how many bang average players did Sean Dyche have when we were 7th in the Premier league and he managed to get a tune out of them?
What on Earth has Hannibal being a poor shithouse got to do with Sean Dyche?

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Re: Our new Ashley Barnes sh**housery expert.

Post by Stonehouse » Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:04 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:23 pm
What on Earth has Hannibal being a poor shithouse got to do with Sean Dyche?
Just trying to explain that we’ve had many players who’ve been bang average that could be moulded it a good side a la Dyche’s and that Hannibal can be an important part of the team that SP is developing .

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