Anti Parker Agenda

[warksclaret]

The main difference between SP and VK is that the former does not have a big ego and comes out more genuinely, the other had an ego bigger than the club and using us as just a stepping stone

[Quicknick]

The main difference between SP and VK is that the former does not have a big ego and comes out more genuinely, the other had an ego bigger than the club and using us as just a stepping stone

And SP has far more tactical nous.

[Buxtonclaret]

And SP has far more tactical nous.

He also seems to be able to play players in positions they're used to.

[NL Claret]

He also seems to be able to play players in positions they're used to.

And he signs players that want to play for the club which helps to build a strong dressing room.

[fatboy47]

And he signs players that want to play for the club which helps to build a strong dressing room.

Yes, but apart from that?

[NL Claret]

Yes, but apart from that?

He’s a good lad? He knows what he’s doing? Rotating players well.

Not sure what you are getting at here to be honest.

[Blyclaret]

I do find it fascinating how upset some people get when I have a different opinion to them, very typical of modern society currently.

Let's just accept that people have different thoughts and feelings, this is a forum to discuss those kinda things is it not?

I am too stubborn, admittedly, but I just find it difficult to find anything to feel excited about looking forwards under Parker, I can only see this as a short term thing, until it inevitably crashes down. BUT...

Things in the last 2 games have looked more positive than they did, players seem happy, Pace is strangely quiet atm. If things continue to improve and performances start to be interesting, I will be forced to admit I was wrong, but we're not there yet...

Wow the bellend is back …. Changing his story …. Rather that admitting he was wrong.

[fatboy47]

He’s a good lad? He knows what he’s doing? Rotating players well.

Not sure what you are getting at here to be honest.

Sorry for going right over your head NL... I really can't be arsed explaining why.

[Rick_Muller]

He’s a good lad? He knows what he’s doing? Rotating players well.

Not sure what you are getting at here to be honest.

what have the Romans ever done for us...?

[Guller Bull]

Done well in the last few games and it has been slightly more easy on the eye. Boro will be a test of his tactical nous though.

[Bosscat]

Done well in the last few games and it has been slightly more easy on the eye. Boro will be a test of his tactical nous though.

Depends which Boro turn up ... a bit like Dirty Leeds they blow hot and cold ...

[warksclaret]

what have the Romans ever done for us...?

Watling Street and the Fosse Way, just to mention two things.I use both regularly

[Walt]

I do find it fascinating how upset some people get when I have a different opinion to them, very typical of modern society currently.

Let's just accept that people have different thoughts and feelings, this is a forum to discuss those kinda things is it not?

I am too stubborn, admittedly, but I just find it difficult to find anything to feel excited about looking forwards under Parker, I can only see this as a short term thing, until it inevitably crashes down. BUT...

Things in the last 2 games have looked more positive than they did, players seem happy, Pace is strangely quiet atm. If things continue to improve and performances start to be interesting, I will be forced to admit I was wrong, but we're not there yet...

I dont think anyone denied your right to an opinion. It is making you look daft now though.

Time and patience was always required but the all guns blazing approach you had against Parker from the outset wasn't well thought out at all.

Yes, the football has been extremely frustrating to watch at times, most people accepted that. However, there has been slow and steady improvement and we're now very well placed approaching half way.

You say there's nothing look forward to in the long term with Parker. I'd strongly disagree, he's got a squad full of character and togetherness, a good blend of youth and experience. We also see a much improved outlook with players coming back from injury, making the squad very strong. I'd say comfortably the strongest in the division in a month or so.

What he's done with our defensive set up is remarkable.

If we go up, I have absolute faith we will make a far better stab at it than with Kompany and his unfathomable approach last season. Continued pragmatism adding a few key players rather than going for a 4th consecutive overhaul.

Time will tell obviously, but there's a lot to look forward to in my opinion.

[gandhisflipflop]

If we went up as things stand, we would require improvement in the full back area on both sides, a striker or two and perhaps a cm

[Darnhill Claret]

The main reason we are doing better over the last few games is because the players are playing better. They are getting to know each other's game and responding accordingly. Sometimes they go 'auto pilot' not doing enough. Sometimes like second half at Stoke they go 'auto pilot' doing all the right things.
The most impressive thing for me was everyone seemed to give the man in possession an option. Their running off the ball was top notch and they seemed to hunt in 3's all over the pitch, in or out of possession. The front men making space and aggressive runs to receive a pass.
Occasionally our front men seem to mark their defender instead of trying to escape from them.

[Claret53]

Having followed the Clarets for over 60 years, and having seen over 25 managers in that time, perhaps I can offer a few thoughts on Scott Parker and this thread? I hope not from an antediluvian viewpoint.
1. When he came to the club, he was facing a chaotic situation. When you looked at the squad list it was very impressive, but that concealed a more difficult truth: that several of the more saleable players came because of VK and were signed as premier league players. He was faced with a fractured dressing room, with several players wanting away, and a high turnover of players, some of whom clearly needed to be offloaded for financial and playing reasons.
2. What was immediately necessary was stability. It is easy to see how a few bad results, allied with players leaving, would have caused panic in the club generally - and in the crowd. He has been phenomenally successful in building solidity into the team to the extent that the team is breaking records with its sound defence. Sir Alex notably said that you can entertain with exciting forward play, but it is defences which win championships.
3. Whatever you now think of VK, in the championship season the team started slowly and only grew into the match winning machine which it became after several months. It was one of our most enjoyable seasons, but that took time to develop. We are currently ahead of that team on points and the pattern seems to be repeating itself.
4. When players are heading for the exits and you have inexperienced players in the squad, signing steady professionals who can have an effect in the dressing room is a smart move. The suggestion that his signings are a bit meh not only ignores the obvious quality of people such as Laurent, Anthony and Sarmiento, but misses the importance in the dressing room of players who are good examples - good professionals.
5. Suggestions that matches are ever easy in the Championship are well wide of the mark. The margins between defeat and winning can be small and to set about building a season by getting the team tightly structured has been absolutely sensible. We are now seeing the attacks being more fruitful and penetrative and this can only happen when players have got to know each others' play very well and can allow instinct as to where other team members will be positioning themselves play a role in their decision making.
6. It is obvious that great team spirit has been built up. This is very much in the Burnley tradition and it is in no small part due to the manager and his team. When interviewed, he seems genuinely to care for, and admire, his players and such a positive attitude can only help players to flourish.
7. People suggest that SP will be OK at getting us out of the Championship but has not been good at keeping promoted teams in the premier league. As an observation, that may be true, but it does not take into accountant not only that people can learn from their mistakes, but it also ignores issues such as who was operating the transfer policies at his previous clubs.
So, in summary, there is no doubt that some of the games have not been easy on the eye, but the primary task at the start of this season was to consolidate and provide a firm base. This SP has patently achieved and if you are tempted to discount the level of this achievement, you don't really understand professional football. The signs of an improved attacking style are emerging and the proof is in the results.

[burnley007]

Have to admit, I'm starting to look forward to our games recently.
We're still not 'exciting', but we are FAR better to watch since the Christmas period.
Hats off to Parker, the coaches and the players.

The team spirit sounds fantastic too.

Long may it continue.


Another slice of humble pie please chef....

[JR1882]

I think we all want Scott to succeed, he’s a genuine bloke and has given it everything so far and conducted himself very well through some difficult moments.

It is boring but that’s what he is on the field, strangely if we go up it will stand us in better stead I think,

Last season was so demoralising and shocking we all needed a bit of free flowing attacking football to blow the cobwebs away and it hasn’t come, I think as well the first 2 games gave everyone a false perception of how the season would be, in terms of entertainment.

Doing a super job (his way) that can’t be argued.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

I think a sponsorship from Nytol might be on the cards if we go up

[Stonehouse]

I think a sponsorship from Nytol might be on the cards if we go up

We were playing a team 4th in the league and a **** ref ,what did you expect a 6 goal thriller?

[louieollie]

I think a sponsorship from Nytol might be on the cards if we go up

Or maybe you don't watch anymore

[brexit]

He needs to go now
bring back the ginger dinosaur

[Benson]

I think a sponsorship from Nytol might be on the cards if we go up

Do they sponsor you ?

[dsr]

Astonishingly, on Sky, they said nobody could have predicted a 0-0 draw.

[Quickenthetempo]

If we end up in the play offs, is anyone confident enough that a Scott Parker team could win 3 games on the bounce against half decent opposition?

[bumba]

If we end up in the play offs, is anyone confident enough that a Scott Parker team could win 3 games on the bounce against half decent opposition?

We could draw 3 and still get promoted

[Quickenthetempo]

We could draw 3 and still get promoted

Probably just as well.

[bumba]

Probably just as well.

Three 0-0 draws best defensive record the play offs have ever seen

[Quickenthetempo]

Three 0-0 draws best defensive record the play offs have ever seen

Owen Coyle, who was regarded as an attacking manager won 1-0, 0-2 and 1-0 in the play offs 09.

[agreenwood]

Common sense tells you that you can’t go up with a goals to game ratio of less than 1 (0.88 over the last 25 games) and that we can’t continue to accrue points without scoring more goals.

That said, we’ve managed it this long, so who knows.

I’ve warmed to Parker though. It’s not a fluke that we’ve got such a good defensive record or that we’re sat in the top two. Yes, I’d like to turn the draws into wins and get out of my seat a bit more during matches, but he’s doing a good job.

The aim is promotion. Anything else is failure for a club with our budget. So far he’s on track and it’s hard to be too critical.

[Spijed]

Our system relies on us usually taking the one or two golden chances in a game. The last minute one against Stoke, Flemming's chance at the start of the second half.

Once we go in front it's usually end of the match and had we really sat back last night even Sunderland wouldn't have got close to getting the penalties.

It's working very well so far.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

If our defenders and keeper didn’t spend so much time passing the ball around to each other we’d probably get up pitch more and create a few chances. The first ten minutes tempo is what we need to play throughout the game.

[The Shire Claret]

If our defenders and keeper didn’t spend so much time passing the ball around to each other we’d probably get up pitch more and create a few chances. The first ten minutes tempo is what we need to play throughout the game.

It’s impossible to play at that pace for 98 minutes

I think they are instructed to play high tempo in spells but you can’t discount the quality of the opposition

We started well again in the second half

We didn’t score but we had enough chances last night for me to put it down as another 0-0 and we can’t score goals

[helmclaret]

We’ve got nothing up front. No movement or pace. That’s why we end up passing it back more often than not in wide positions. I’d like to see us have some pace down the middle because we are far too predictable in our build up play.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

It’s impossible to play at that pace for 98 minutes

I think they are instructed to play high tempo in spells but you can’t discount the quality of the opposition

We started well again in the second half

We didn’t score but we had enough chances last night for me to put it down as another 0-0 and we can’t score goals

I’m not expecting 90 mins at that tempo but we need more than 10 minute spells. As has happened in every home game this season we slow it down to snails pace, create little and see the crowd largely lose interest.

[The Shire Claret]

We’ve got nothing up front. No movement or pace. That’s why we end up passing it back more often than not in wide positions. I’d like to see us have some pace down the middle because we are far too predictable in our build up play.

I think once Foster has had a few more games he might be the answer to the problem you state

He made some great powerful runs down the middle and if it wasn’t for a great save from their keeper … he would have assisted Anthony

He’s great at that

[KlyBfc]

It’not an agenda for people to be highly critical of how we play / try to play at home. 7 draws out of 13 home games of which 5 are 0-0 is something which deserves to be questioned. The tactical straight jacket which is almost never taken off makes the home games tedious.

[daveisaclaret]

Can anyone imagine us scoring a goal in the Premier League?

[boyyanno]

If we end up in the play offs, is anyone confident enough that a Scott Parker team could win 3 games on the bounce against half decent opposition?

We literally just did that about 2-3 weeks ago.

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