Pace on Tresor

[warksclaret]

If we are happy to have Agyei on the bench and make several sub appearances then a previous footballer of the year in Belgium , now fit, is up to being in the squad. This very sad state of affairs is drifting into a new transfer window. Hopefully our club has their legal team all over this contractual agreement. Sadly I have noticed the hatred really step up on here-maybe greater than it was with Weghorst. I dont see a resolution on this other than him leaving

[Stonehouse]

The difference with Weghorst was that he was up front with his situation saying he’d leave if we got relegated and put a shift in when he had the odd appearance which is more than can be said for this feckless individual.

[JohnMcGreal]

I'm pretty sure Sarmiento referenced 'Tres' as one of the chaps he gets on with - sort of thing on the recent vid from the club. So it doesn't sound like he's dragging squad morale down.

Comments like these from our players make me think there is something else going on with Tresor that fans aren't aware of.

I find it hard to believe that a squad of professionals would be so relaxed and pally with someone who is just refusing to motivate himself to play, unless we have a squad bereft of any sort of character or professional standards.

Whatever is going on it needs putting to bed one way or another. If he's not going to play for us, for whatever reason, we need to try our best to move him on, even if it is at a significant financial loss.

[blatherwickstattoos]

The longer this goes on the more I think he’s failed a drugs test.

[LDNBFC87]

The longer this goes on the more I think he’s failed a drugs test.

This is my thinking. If he suddenly appears 6 months after the previous time he played for us it'll add up...

[Denno97]

The longer this goes on the more I think he’s failed a drugs test.

Or if the illness is as serious as it’s rumoured he’s still not fit enough to play a full 90 mins of professional football

[fidelcastro]

So far we've had him refusing to play, contracting malaria, not being deemed good enough by the manager, and now having failed a drugs test.

Did I miss any?

Let's face it, we may never know the full truth.

[Guller Bull]

I think its a case for

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEhpmuXHmRQ

[CrosspoolClarets]

There is fitness and fitness.

The rumour is Redmond may move to L1 Birmingham on loan so that could be a good example of where a player could be coming back from injury or illness and not be fit enough for one level but is for another. It’s all about the physiological stats now, if they don’t get to a certain level, they don’t play. Could easily be the case with Tresor.

The problem with Tresor is that it is a news vacuum, and a vacuum must be filled, e.g. with the speculation above about drugs tests (Mudrik at Chelsea is an example, kept it quiet for 5 weeks, in the news today). I’m not a fan of news vacuums, it doesn’t help Tresor, it doesn't help the fans, I’m far from convinced it helps the club either. Foster is another example, what caused his setback after his initial injury? Fans are already filling the vacuum by speculating and before long that diminishes the player’s usefulness to us in our minds, we start to think he will never play most games in a season and it becomes the narrative.

[Blyclaret]

The longer this goes on the more I think he’s failed a drugs test.

Good shout. May i ask is it 6 months penalty the player must serve for a failed drugs test ??

[Jakubs Tash]

The longer this goes on the more I think he’s failed a drugs test.

If this was the case why would Pace be publicly stating that he’s fit and available for selection?

[Stalbansclaret]

If he has failed a test it surely can't have been a performance-enhancing drug.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Reading this thread I don't think it is Tresor who has failed a test

[Bosscat]

Wow all we need now is someone to say he has been abducted by Aliens and the conspiracy theories will be complete

[claretonthecoast1882]

Wow all we need now is someone to say he has been abducted by Aliens and the conspiracy theories will be complete

Don't encourage blyclaret he has already messaged 20 people about the failed drug test

[fidelcastro]

It has often been said that there are aspects of the club that are unprofessional, but allowing a player who has failed a drugs test to be the face of your club merchandise?

Yeah right.

[Blyclaret]

Don't encourage blyclaret he has already messaged 20 people about the failed drug test

Excuse me … what is that about

[willsclarets]

Comments like these from our players make me think there is something else going on with Tresor that fans aren't aware of.

I find it hard to believe that a squad of professionals would be so relaxed and pally with someone who is just refusing to motivate himself to play, unless we have a squad bereft of any sort of character or professional standards.

Whatever is going on it needs putting to bed one way or another. If he's not going to play for us, for whatever reason, we need to try our best to move him on, even if it is at a significant financial loss.

There's a photo pre-Derby game on the site where he's in fits of laughter with Hannibal and someone else during training. And he's clearly in training with the rest. Given Parker's continued comments about the group etc, I would be really suprised if he's just allowed to stay with the first team and refuse to play. Maybe we'll never know, it seems very likely he'll be off to Europe next month somewhere

[warksclaret]

Good shout. May i ask is it 6 months penalty the player must serve for a failed drugs test ??

Always thought drugs can enhance performance

[warksclaret]

If he has failed a test it surely can't have been a performance-enhancing drug.

You beat me to it Stalbans

[123EasyasBFC]

The longer this goes on the more I think he’s failed a drugs test.

If he had failed a drugs test he wouldn’t be training with the group

[Alan Young]

So far we've had him refusing to play, contracting malaria, not being deemed good enough by the manager, and now having failed a drugs test.

Did I miss any?

Let's face it, we may never know the full truth.

An example of how much we’ve changed as a club that our non featuring players are rumoured to have caught malaria rather than just s****ing another players wife like the good old days.

[HahaYeah]

I think it's likely that the club have decided to play it cool for the sake of general squad morale and keep everybody sweet rather than flag to the transfer market that we have a problem player we are very keen to get rid of asap cheaply.

[Herts Clarets]

An example of how much we’ve changed as a club that our non featuring players are rumoured to have caught malaria rather than just s****ing another players wife like the good old days.

Or allegedly robbing team mates belongings from the changing rooms at Gawthorpe.....

[blatherwickstattoos]

Like I said it’s just a thought. But as mentioned above he wouldn’t be training with us maybe. Just find it bizarre the whole situation the longer it drags on.

[Clovius Boofus]

It has often been said that there are aspects of the club that are unprofessional, but allowing a player who has failed a drugs test to be the face of your club merchandise?

Exactly. There's some right numpties on here.

[Stonehouse]

Or allegedly robbing team mates belongings from the changing rooms at Gawthorpe...

Or nicking an ironing board.

[warksclaret]

An example of how much we’ve changed as a club that our non featuring players are rumoured to have caught malaria rather than just s****ing another players wife like the good old days.

Bring back Shackell and Payton

[Spike]

A very rare mention of Trevor and Pace in the same sentence

[Wo Didi]

Only these two can get to the bottom of this

https://youtu.be/2bkm-epzhGA?si=Uf1WvruSwzp41Oe7

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

They should be firing him or docking his wages, beyond a joke now.

[dsr]

Wow all we need now is someone to say he has been abducted by Aliens and the conspiracy theories will be complete

No, for full conspiracy coverage we need a royal family link as well. Presumably Prince Philip isn't available for conspiracy theorists any more, and Andrew is otherwise engaged, but there must be someone we can link?

[JohnDearyMe]

Has anyone considered that he simply exerts himself too much in training and is therefore too tired for the matchday squads? Judging by the sort of wholehearted displays we saw from him last season I wouldn't be surprised if this rumour had an element of truth to it

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Has anyone considered that he simply exerts himself too much in training and is therefore too tired for the matchday squads? Judging by the sort of wholehearted displays we saw from him last season I wouldn't be surprised if this rumour had an element of truth to it

Poor lad is absolutely shattered after training no wonder he looked so tired on the bench last season.

Maybe his best bud is JBG and he’s been passing on tips.

[Foshiznik]

No, for full conspiracy coverage we need a royal family link as well. Presumably Prince Philip isn't available for conspiracy theorists any more, and Andrew is otherwise engaged, but there must be someone we can link?

Are we confirming that Tresor is a lizard person?

[ecc]

The longer this goes on the more I think he’s failed a drugs test.

If that were the case the EFL would have made it public, wouldn't they?

[THEWELLERNUT70]

If he has failed a test it surely can't have been a performance-enhancing drug.

Whenever i see his name mentioned I think "dope"

[dcunningham27]

Tresor out doing events with the team as well as training every day something isn’t right is it weird

[hoosier-daddy]

Very weird. We've basically chalked off every normal possibility. He'd be on the bench if he was available.

[NewClaret]

Absolutely bizarre.

Cannot work it out!

[willsclarets]

He must be just such a brilliant lad we're happy to pay him 30k a week to hang about

[Goliath]

Very weird. We've basically chalked off every normal possibility. He'd be on the bench if he was available.

I think I mentioned earlier on the thread but I think there's a possibility that he's just refusing to agree that he's fit to play. In that case we would be left with no leg to stand on.

Complete guesswork but it's the only thing I can think of that would make any sense

[Stonehouse]

The phrase that Roy Keane slated ‘He’s good around the dressing room’

[willsclarets]

I think I mentioned earlier on the thread but I think there's a possibility that he's just refusing to agree that he's fit to play. In that case we would be left with no leg to stand on.

Complete guesswork but it's the only thing I can think of that would make any sense

At some point, you would have to ask "why not", i'm not sure that gives us no leg to stand on. It's not all subjective either, with the data at club's disposal, they'll be able to tell if he's fit enough to play some part in a game.

[hoosier-daddy]

At some point, you would have to ask "why not", i'm not sure that gives us no leg to stand on. It's not all subjective either, with the data at club's disposal, they'll be able to tell if he's fit enough to play some part in a game.

The only rational explanation to me is that his head isn't in the right place and he's going through the same thing as Foster.

[Goliath]

At some point, you would have to ask "why not", i'm not sure that gives us no leg to stand on. It's not all subjective either, with the data at club's disposal, they'll be able to tell if he's fit enough to play some part in a game.

If we accept he was seriously ill then it might be difficult to force him to get back on the pitch if he thinks or claims he isn't ready theoretically. There would also be question marks legally if we started fining him etc

[jrgbfc]

At some point, you would have to ask "why not", i'm not sure that gives us no leg to stand on. It's not all subjective either, with the data at club's disposal, they'll be able to tell if he's fit enough to play some part in a game.

I'm sure it happens more than you think. If a player says he's felt a twinge in training or been under the weather all week its hard for a manager to overrule them.

[willsclarets]

Yeah fair enough. There must be something going on, I'm not angry with him or about the situation just confused! And I really want to see him play again

[hoosier-daddy]

I'm sure it happens more than you think. If a player says he's felt a twinge in training or been under the weather all week its hard for a manager to overrule them.

I've never seen a twinge last 6 months. What one poster said after speaking with Pace was telling. And Parker has already said he's fit so that has to rule out physical injury.

[fidelcastro]

At least one poster on here knows though.

He just won't tell us!