January Transfer Window Rumours

[NewClaret]

Oliver Sonne highlights:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BOEJAcsOGv8

[warksclaret]

Sheff Utd looking at bringing Brereton Diaz back from Southampton where he has been out of favour. Much as I hate to say this,it could turn out to be a very smart move, giving them collective fire power on goal. I thought he did well in the PL for them and in the Championship could be a big success

[mybloodisclaret]

Sheff Utd looking at bringing Brereton Diaz back from Southampton where he has been out of favour. Much as I hate to say this,it could turn out to be a very smart move, giving them collective fire power on goal. I thought he did well in the PL for them and in the Championship could be a big success

Already been a big success for 1 season at least for our neighbours. I don't particularly rate him, but he did have that 1 cracking season for them.

[Vegas Claret]

Sheff Utd looking at bringing Brereton Diaz back from Southampton where he has been out of favour. Much as I hate to say this,it could turn out to be a very smart move, giving them collective fire power on goal. I thought he did well in the PL for them and in the Championship could be a big success

If they don't win the league with the squad they have it's a massive fail for Wilder

[NewClaret]

If they don't win the league with the squad they have it's a massive fail for Wilder

I honestly don’t think it’s that good. Ahmedhodzic, Hamer, Souza and Cooper aside, I think it’s pretty ordinary. I think it’s far weaker than it was last year with Archer, McAtee, McBurnie, etc (we are too of course).

Maintain that I wouldn’t swap our two fully fit squads in a million years.

Wilder has performed absolute miracles to pay for only 3 players (€7m) and use loans to even have a squad to field. Doing a brilliant job.

[hoosier-daddy]

If they don't win the league with the squad they have it's a massive fail for Wilder

Same could be said for us.

[hoosier-daddy]

I honestly don’t think it’s that good. Ahmedhodzic, Hamer, Souza and Cooper aside, I think it’s pretty ordinary. I think it’s far weaker than it was last year with Archer, McAtee, McBurnie, etc (we are too of course).

Maintain that I wouldn’t swap our two fully fit squads in a million years.

Wilder has performed absolute miracles to pay for only 3 players (€7m) and use loans to even have a squad to field. Doing a brilliant job.

Ok, you've just replied earlier.

[ecc]

O' Hare on a free (OOC) was a good acquisition.

[ecc]

no idea tbh mate. Anyone know if he's any good ? I need to know if I need to write him off before he's kicked a ball for us

You can, he's crap.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I honestly don’t think it’s that good. Ahmedhodzic, Hamer, Souza and Cooper aside, I think it’s pretty ordinary. I think it’s far weaker than it was last year with Archer, McAtee, McBurnie, etc (we are too of course).

Maintain that I wouldn’t swap our two fully fit squads in a million years.

Wilder has performed absolute miracles to pay for only 3 players (€7m) and use loans to even have a squad to field. Doing a brilliant job.

I don’t quite think your doing there squad justice. They had an excellent window, no more so than getting Rak Sakyi (IMO the best winger in the league) and then getting Campbell/O hare on a free was unbelievable business.

Looking at there squad they have got the best Defender, the best midfielder and the best winger. There’s a reason they are top of the table even after a points deduction.

[Swizzlestick]

Would be interested to see their wage bill too. They're obviously doing well, but 'miracles'? Behave.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Would be interested to see their wage bill too. They're obviously doing well, but 'miracles'? Behave.

I think his comment was more around it being a miracle signing the talent they have for only 7m.

I tend to agree, they had an excellent window. Especially when you consider some of the fees we have committed to Anthony etc…

[Swizzlestick]

I think his comment was more around it being a miracle signing the talent they have for only 7m.

I tend to agree, they had an excellent window. Especially when you consider some of the fees we have committed to Anthony etc…

Blades didn’t have anywhere near the same level of squad turnover we had. Half the league wanted Rak-Sakyi - two clubs made £15m bids. O’Hara was clearly in demand as one of the top Championship performers for Coventry who they’ll be paying top whack. Hardly undiscovered gems. They’re doing well but come on now.

[warksclaret]

Harrison Burrows is an exceptional buy from Peterborough. They have bought very wisely and used the loan market well too.Their challenge will come when promoted as they are under the watch of Fair Pay rules, and wont want to come straight down again

[NewClaret]

Would be interested to see their wage bill too. They're obviously doing well, but 'miracles'? Behave.

To be top of the league by 4 points, 6 without the deduction, with the exodus they had in summer and only spending €7m on replacements is miraculous in my opinion.

Tbh, I thought they’d recruited well in summer but I thought thought it’d be playoffs at best for them.

May still prove to be so as I don’t think they have any strength in depth whatsoever though. January will be as big for them as it is for us for different reasons.

[NewClaret]

Blades didn’t have anywhere near the same level of squad turnover we had. Half the league wanted Rak-Sakyi - two clubs made £15m bids. O’Hara was clearly in demand as one of the top Championship performers for Coventry who they’ll be paying top whack. Hardly undiscovered gems. They’re doing well but come on now.

22 out in summer, 17 in.

A few have returned on loan (so double counting there).

[Quickenthetempo]

To be top of the league by 4 points, 6 without the deduction, with the exodus they had in summer and only spending €7m on replacements is miraculous in my opinion.

Tbh, I thought they’d recruited well in summer but I thought thought it’d be playoffs at best for them.

May still prove to be so as I don’t think they have any strength in depth whatsoever though. January will be as big for them as it is for us for different reasons.

They should be play offs but Luton dive bombed and we can't break crap teams down.

[Big Vinny K]

Sheffield United managed to keep hold of Hamer.
If he would have been at Burnley it’s very likely he would have been sold in the summer.

They bought O’Hare at a good price - presumably as he was either reaching the end of his contract or it was as a result of his couple of big injuries.

Brewster cost £20m and goodness knows how much in wages.
Kiefer Moore will be on decent wages.

Gilchrist and Souttar good loan signings but again will be big wages and very likely big loan fees too.

Cooper was a great buy - probably the best keeper outside of PL in last couple of years.

Davies from Everton will not have come cheap.

Rak-Sakyi already mentioned

Shackleton - from Leeds and played in PL

They had a good clear out of some of the deadwood like McBurnie and some of their older defenders who had been there under Wilder previously.

They have hardly done this on the cheap - and likely when their accounts come out it won’t be pretty reading.

[KernowHouseClaret]

Can we move all the Sheff UTD talk to another thread and just have this for transfer rumours, preferably Burnley based?!

[FCBurnley]

BBC reporting that we are in advanced talks for Sonne for a fee of 2.5 million

[hoosier-daddy]

Mentioned earlier but beats talking about other club's transfer rumours:

Burnley and Coventry Want to Snatch MLS Gem for Just €2 Million

The transfer market is heating up, and Kai Wagner, the talented Philadelphia Union left-back, seems to be the latest hot commodity for European teams. With a release clause of just €2 million and a contract running until 2026, English sides Burnley and Coventry are already salivating at the thought of bringing the German to the Championship, while Atalanta and Parma have also entered the race.

[Woodleyclaret]

Sheffield United are going well but we will catch and overtake them.

[NewClaret]

I’m inclined to agree, the caveat being that we’ll need to see a lot of improvement in our attacking play and Parker’s risk appetite. You’d expect that’ll come with a new, young side but if it doesn’t I’m less certain.

I’m really looking forward to the game on Boxing Day as a barometer of the two teams.

[Stayingup]

Watched the first half with my dad on Sunday, he’s not mobile enough to get to his seat now however he’s watched a lot of the Clarets in his time and now all of them on the tv. He doesn’t read social media, said to him pre match that Humphreys would go into right back. He thought for a moment (must be difficult for the old timers to keep up with the turnover of players) and said , he’s the lad from Chelsea, he looks quite good.

I said that I thought he was quite highly thought of in the England U21 set up. Think Worrall mentioned Humphreys when he did commentary for a game.

I’ll say it again, these young lads are finding their way in the game, they will make errors and bad decisions however that is just part of their development. One or two bad passes and nowadays players get judged by that on social media.

I would say it's difficult for the whole fan base to get used to the very high turnover of players and more importantly most difficult for the team.

[NewClaret]

BBC reporting that we are in advanced talks for Sonne for a fee of 2.5 million

Don’t know anything else about him other than the video I posted but I’m very impressed with how we seem to have secured this early and stuck to a plan given we wanted him
In summer. I really hope there are other early deals in the pipeline too.

[hoosier-daddy]

I really hope there are other early deals in the pipeline too.

Only thing I've read is the left back from America. I imagine these are the easiest/quickest to tie up, with strikers more difficult and more likely to be at the backend of Jan.

[NewClaret]

Only thing I've read is the left back from America. I imagine these are the easiest/quickest to tie up, with strikers more difficult and more likely to be at the backend of Jan.

I’m hoping the American left back is noise. Wasn’t too impressed with what I saw of him and feel we’re fine there with Pires and Humphreys for the rest of the season.

Strikers, yes, heard nothing and agree they’re probably harder/going to be last days of Jan unless we’ve done something clever with someone not getting game time and no other interest. At the end of Jan there’s basically three full months of the season left though. It’s still worth doing but barely. Two thirds of the season is gone.

[hoosier-daddy]

I’m hoping the American left back is noise. Wasn’t too impressed with what I saw of him and feel we’re fine there with Pires and Humphreys for the rest of the season.

Strikers, yes, heard nothing and agree they’re probably harder/going to be last days of Jan unless we’ve done something clever with someone not getting game time and no other interest. At the end of Jan there’s basically three full months of the season left though. It’s still worth doing but barely. Two thirds of the season is gone.

With regards to the final two thirds of the season - take a look at the fixtures from February.
I remember seeing SU there, but other than that, all fixtures we would be expected to win.

It's Boxing Day to the end of January where the toughest games appear. And to be fair - I really don't see a side other than perhaps Leeds home that should be anything other than a win.

We're just missing that piece of the jigsaw to be the best side in the division.

[NewClaret]

With regards to the final two thirds of the season - take a look at the fixtures from February.
I remember seeing SU there, but other than that, all fixtures we would be expected to win.

It's Boxing Day to the end of January where the toughest games appear. And to be fair - I really don't see a side other than perhaps Leeds home that should be anything other than a win.

We're just missing that piece of the jigsaw to be the best side in the division.

Final third, I was meaning!

January is tough, as you say, then it gets easier (on paper). That’s why I’m glad we look to be doing this move early but would also like to hope other deals are being worked on for early moves too.

If you’re a player not getting much game time, getting it done early is in your interests as well - to salvage what you can of the season.

[Darnhill Claret]

I have a feeling that January signings might not get that many games between them.
A striker might get more game time.

[BigGaz]

Looks like we are once again locking horns with Coventry after they didn't take too kindly to us taking Maatsen, bidding for o'Hare and asking after Hamer and Gyokeres.

The Battle of the Sonne commences.

[Row x]

Looks like we are once again locking horns with Coventry after they didn't take too kindly to us taking Maatsen, bidding for o'Hare and asking after Hamer and Gyokeres.

The Battle of the Sonne commences.

Is it not a player from USA us and Coventry are rumoured to be after?

[Newcastleclaret93]

I have a feeling that January signings might not get that many games between them.
A striker might get more game time.

Pretty confident we will not be signing a striker

[hoosier-daddy]

Looks like we are once again locking horns with Coventry after they didn't take too kindly to us taking Maatsen, bidding for o'Hare and asking after Hamer and Gyokeres.

The Battle of the Sonne commences.

You spent all afternoon thinking of that one, didn't you

[mybloodisclaret]

Pretty confident we will not be signing a striker

How so? We are absolutely desperate for a striker..... We need someone who can give us something different and generally worry defenders.

[hoosier-daddy]

How so? We are absolutely desperate for a striker..... We need someone who can give us something different and generally worry defenders.

We'll be in the market for a striker. But at the same time I don't think we'll sign one for the sake of it. One thing is for sure - it'll be last minutes of the transfer window if it does happen. Which could be too late for this season and more about next.

[mybloodisclaret]

We'll be in the market for a striker. But at the same time I don't think we'll sign one for the sake of it. One thing is for sure - it'll be last minutes of the transfer window if it does happen. Which could be too late for this season and more about next.

I take your point about end of window etc.... but look at your message on this topic at 5.35pm..... From February, certainly with a right striker we should be looking at winning every game?

[Newcastleclaret93]

How so? We are absolutely desperate for a striker..... We need someone who can give us something different and generally worry defenders.

Finances are tight.

No way they are going to splurge money on a striker, when by our own admission the club believes Foster is worth 20m, we have committed to 10m plus on Flemming, 4m on Houtnondji and they we have Jay on probably pretty decent wages for our club.

I would say it’s much more likely they go out and sign either a top number 10 or right winger. Two positions I think you could argue we are short in.

[NewClaret]

Finances are tight.

No way they are going to splurge money on a striker, when by our own admission the club believes Foster is worth 20m, we have committed to 10m plus on Flemming, 4m on Houtnondji and they we have Jay on probably pretty decent wages for our club.

I would say it’s much more likely they go out and sign either a top number 10 or right winger. Two positions I think you could argue we are short in.

I don’t disagree and to be honest unless we sign another quality wide player and creative midfielder, signing a striker is irrelevant because we barely create any chances, but to your finances point I’m pretty sure loans with options will be achievable for the club.

Flemming was also £7m.

[123EasyasBFC]

Finances are tight.

No way they are going to splurge money on a striker, when by our own admission the club believes Foster is worth 20m, we have committed to 10m plus on Flemming, 4m on Houtnondji and they we have Jay on probably pretty decent wages for our club.

I would say it’s much more likely they go out and sign either a top number 10 or right winger. Two positions I think you could argue we are short in.

Hountonji wasn’t 4m pounds

[RVclaret]

Hountondji was a £3.2m package which probably includes a clause or two. Likely something like £2.5m rising to £3.2m if clauses are met.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Regardless of discrepancies in fees, the club won’t sign another striker whilst we currently have four on the books (actively in the first team squad).

Not unless they move two on.

[NewClaret]

Hountondji was a £3.2m package which probably includes a clause or two. Likely something like £2.5m rising to £3.2m if clauses are met.

For some reason we as fans always seem to quote the upper figure on purchases. Hannibal was £5m but the £9m add-on price is always the one that gets quoted when a 21 year old has a bad game. Crazy.

Same with Hountondji, as you say, who to me has all their attributes to be a top striker (huge, strong, knows where the net is for Benin, decent shot) - £3m maximum and probably a lot less guaranteed, but £4m is always the price referenced.

I personally don’t think we’ll pay anywhere near the £15m for Tresor if he doesn’t play again, either.

[Newcastleclaret93]

For some reason we as fans always seem to quote the upper figure on purchases. Hannibal was £5m but the £9m add-on price is always the one that gets quoted when a 21 year old has a bad game. Crazy.

Same with Hountondji, as you say, who to me has all their attributes to be a top striker (huge, strong, knows where the net is for Benin, decent shot) - £3m maximum and probably a lot less guaranteed, but £4m is always the price referenced.

I personally don’t think we’ll pay anywhere near the £15m for Tresor if he doesn’t play again, either.

Probably because when your type in Houtondji transfer all it says is 4m. Similar with Hannibal the big headline fee is 9m.

[RVclaret]

Probably because when your type in Houtondji transfer all it says is 4m. Similar with Hannibal the big headline fee is 9m.

It says €4m. Many have struggled over the years with the concept of foreign exchange.

[NewClaret]

Probably because when your type in Houtondji transfer all it says is 4m. Similar with Hannibal the big headline fee is 9m.

Echo RV’s comments that re FX, but equally just googled “Hannibal to Burnley fee” and the top answer is:

Burnley have paid a fixed fee of £5.4million for Hannibal, potentially rising up to £9.4m with add-ons.

You don’t have to scratch too hard behind the headlines find the answers.

[Big Vinny K]

For some reason we as fans always seem to quote the upper figure on purchases. Hannibal was £5m but the £9m add-on price is always the one that gets quoted when a 21 year old has a bad game. Crazy.

Same with Hountondji, as you say, who to me has all their attributes to be a top striker (huge, strong, knows where the net is for Benin, decent shot) - £3m maximum and probably a lot less guaranteed, but £4m is always the price referenced.

I personally don’t think we’ll pay anywhere near the £15m for Tresor if he doesn’t play again, either.

I hope you are correct on Houtondji - you’ve mentioned a few times you think he has the attributes of a top striker. Personally I do not have a clue what this is based on.
Excuses have been made for him like he’s being played out of position but I am yet to see any semblance of a footballer in the appearances I have seen. He came on for the last 10 minutes or so against Derby - he had a simple 2 yard pass to make and belted it at chest height !! He looks so out of his depth and the fact he gets picked for Benin means nothing in trying to make it in a league as tough as the Championship.

As said I hope he comes good but the fact that he is getting so few minutes in a team with the attacking issues and injuries we have had this season shows that to put it lightly he is struggling.

[NewClaret]

I hope you are correct on Houtondji - you’ve mentioned a few times you think he has the attributes of a top striker. Personally I do not have a clue what this is based on.
Excuses have been made for him like he’s being played out of position but I am yet to see any semblance of a footballer in the appearances I have seen. He came on for the last 10 minutes or so against Derby - he had a simple 2 yard pass to make and belted it at chest height !! He looks so out of his depth and the fact he gets picked for Benin means nothing in trying to make it in a league as tough as the Championship.

As said I hope he comes good but the fact that he is getting so few minutes in a team with the attacking issues and injuries we have had this season shows that to put it lightly he is struggling.

It’s mainly his physical attributes, as stated. He’s huge, looks fast when he gets going, strong, and despite the level he’s played at (which doubters will always cite until he proves himself in better leagues), seems to know where the net is given his scoring record last season and internationally.

I’m not and never have said he’s a great player today, just that his attributes give him the potential to be. At £3m or so, hopefully worth the risk because nobody would take that for a prolific league one striker never mind a striker with a good record in the championship (Gyokeres £20m, Flemming £7m, etc).

[BigGaz]

You spent all afternoon thinking of that one, didn't you

[bfcmik]

I hope you are correct on Houtondji - you’ve mentioned a few times you think he has the attributes of a top striker. Personally I do not have a clue what this is based on.
Excuses have been made for him like he’s being played out of position but I am yet to see any semblance of a footballer in the appearances I have seen. He came on for the last 10 minutes or so against Derby - he had a simple 2 yard pass to make and belted it at chest height !! He looks so out of his depth and the fact he gets picked for Benin means nothing in trying to make it in a league as tough as the Championship.

As said I hope he comes good but the fact that he is getting so few minutes in a team with the attacking issues and injuries we have had this season shows that to put it lightly he is struggling.

When he arrived it was said that he was one for the future. Nobody realistically thought he was the one who would make or break our season. He is here to learn and develop, hopefully into a good player at whatever level we are at.