Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
Goalposts
Posts: 3093
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:36 pm
Been Liked: 654 times
Has Liked: 155 times
Location: the ghost in the atom

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by Goalposts » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:18 pm

Does anyone know how carsick got the black eye

BigGaz
Posts: 1142
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:24 pm
Been Liked: 465 times
Has Liked: 219 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by BigGaz » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:20 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:17 pm
No no no- you pretended I sensationalised your post, how so?

Ita not true you said we offered next to no attacking threat?
I said we had one shot on target. Which is one more shot on target than zero shots on target. Hence next to no.

You sensationalised my post by claiming I have some sort of agenda, of which I'm still waiting for your explanation on that.

bfcmik
Posts: 4292
Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:03 pm
Been Liked: 1029 times
Has Liked: 1216 times
Location: Solihull Geriatric Centre

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by bfcmik » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:21 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:03 pm
Not on that showing we would have our work cut out. Slow & ponderous maybe too much Xmas pud & boro were organised they aren't mugs but disappointing when wednesday found a way to score 3 the game before we couldn't find a way to work a third choice keeper.
You do realise that Boro had had a centre-back sent off before Wednesday started their comeback?

Besides, Boro would have been in a different set up and attitude for that game and this.

Tricky Trevor
Posts: 10805
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:06 pm
Been Liked: 3137 times
Has Liked: 2534 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:22 pm

Happy with the away point against a side that would have gone top 6 with a victory.
To be honest I’m always pleased with any points from the NE, it’s nota happy hunting ground for us.

Biggest disappointment for me was how sloppily we kept gifting them the ball. All their attacks came from our errors but we never learnt.

Ref was nowhere near as bad as those watching through Claret spex would have you believe. Errors yes but no major ones.

boyyanno
Posts: 2233
Joined: Fri May 27, 2016 7:25 pm
Been Liked: 762 times
Has Liked: 168 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by boyyanno » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:24 pm

BigGaz wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:20 pm
I said we had one shot on target. Which is one more shot on target than zero shots on target. Hence next to no.

You sensationalised my post by claiming I have some sort of agenda, of which I'm still waiting for your explanation on that.
Well you only make things up to back an agenda. Saying we had next to no attacking threat is just making things up.

I've pointed out two clear cut goalscoring opportunities and you're now acting like they aren't relevant. You'd really only do that to back an agenda. What it is I don't know, why would I care?

If you miss a penalty is it not a chance? So why don't you count chances that we miss?

Commy
Posts: 4465
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:53 pm
Been Liked: 796 times
Has Liked: 60 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by Commy » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:24 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:17 pm
Would you be saying that if Brownhill was our centre forward and he’d scored most of the goals ,it’s the same for all the players doesn’t matter what position there in.
He isn't our centre forward though. He is a goal scoring midfielder but we are relying on him scoring every match.

I also don't remember a centre forward taking every chance they have.
Last edited by Commy on Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

ralph8
Posts: 212
Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:48 am
Been Liked: 52 times
Has Liked: 4 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by ralph8 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:26 pm

The problem is if that we waste all our good play on not testing a keeper we we will end up with another nil nil score against Stoke.

Commy
Posts: 4465
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:53 pm
Been Liked: 796 times
Has Liked: 60 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by Commy » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:27 pm

Some games we are shooting from all over the place and others we are trying to walk the ball in.

BigGaz
Posts: 1142
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:24 pm
Been Liked: 465 times
Has Liked: 219 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by BigGaz » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:28 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:24 pm
Well you only make things up to back an agenda. Saying we had next to no attacking threat is just making things up.

I've pointed out two clear cut goalscoring opportunities and you're now acting like they aren't relevant. You'd really only do that to back an agenda. What it is I don't know, why would I care?

If you miss a penalty is it not a chance? So why don't you count chances that we miss?
Right, so from this drivel we can clearly summise that you're simply talking shite. Glad to have cleared that up. Proper good 'calling out' that mate, will definitely reflect on that and do my best to see one shot on target as an absolute plethora of chances in future. Really good chat. Must dash.
This user liked this post: Wo Didi

GetIntoEm
Posts: 3091
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:17 pm
Been Liked: 840 times
Has Liked: 241 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by GetIntoEm » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:28 pm

Atmosphere was mint we need a drum

Cubanforever
Posts: 785
Joined: Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:43 am
Been Liked: 270 times
Has Liked: 654 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by Cubanforever » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:29 pm

Goalposts wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:18 pm
Does anyone know how carsick got the black eye
Was asking that myself before.....maybe he told the drummer to give it a rest

boyyanno
Posts: 2233
Joined: Fri May 27, 2016 7:25 pm
Been Liked: 762 times
Has Liked: 168 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by boyyanno » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:30 pm

BigGaz wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:28 pm
Right, so from this drivel we can clearly summise that you're simply talking shite. Glad to have cleared that up. Proper good 'calling out' that mate, will definitely reflect on that and do my best to see one shot on target as an absolute plethora of chances in future. Really good chat. Must dash.
Incredibly mature. Refuses to accept we had more than one chance because we only had one shot on target. And then gets so rattled he has to start swearing on an online messagboard- what a big man :lol:

BigGaz
Posts: 1142
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:24 pm
Been Liked: 465 times
Has Liked: 219 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by BigGaz » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:32 pm

I'm gonna have to call you out if you carry on like this.

hoosier-daddy
Posts: 971
Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:13 pm
Been Liked: 173 times
Has Liked: 282 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by hoosier-daddy » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:35 pm

Cubanforever wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:29 pm
Was asking that myself before.....maybe he told the drummer to give it a rest
:D :D

123EasyasBFC
Posts: 6794
Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:09 pm
Been Liked: 1287 times
Has Liked: 330 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:36 pm

Overall that was a great away performance, we are one great goal line clearance and a bad brownhill miss away from calling it another pure away performance.

We just have to go and beat Stoke now

bfcjg
Posts: 14834
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:17 pm
Been Liked: 5696 times
Has Liked: 8365 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by bfcjg » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:37 pm

Goalposts wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:18 pm
Does anyone know how carsick got the black eye
He asked Brownhill to aim for his nuts.
(Joke ! )

me01jh
Posts: 115
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:31 pm
Been Liked: 27 times
Has Liked: 44 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by me01jh » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:40 pm

Let's start with the positives... a very good point.

A lot of the football, particularly in the first half, was neat and tidy, and we worked the ball into great areas of the football pitch.

Our overall defensive shape and structure is phenomenal. The players work so hard to get back behind the ball on turnover and the energy levels are incredible.

Negatives... overwhelmingly, we lack a sprinkle of quality in the final third, summed up by Anthony (who I thought was brilliant), taking a moon ball out of the sky on his left peg on the run, but then serving up a bobbler to Brownhill, who admittedly should score, but its that final piece of quality that is missing.

We need a striker who can play in behind desperately.

We over-played from the back today, not sure you can do that with Lauren as one of the holding two midfielders, he's not quite good enough on the ball. We created all of their chances through over playing.

Substitutions didn't work and with Koleosho bang out of form we have a clear issue down the left with a complete lack of balance.

Nonetheless, we aren't far away and the team & Parker deserve an unbelievable amount of credit.
This user liked this post: NewClaret

BigGaz
Posts: 1142
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:24 pm
Been Liked: 465 times
Has Liked: 219 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by BigGaz » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:41 pm

Steady with that agenda driven nonsense, jesus.

boyyanno
Posts: 2233
Joined: Fri May 27, 2016 7:25 pm
Been Liked: 762 times
Has Liked: 168 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by boyyanno » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:43 pm

me01jh wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:40 pm
Let's start with the positives... a very good point.

A lot of the football, particularly in the first half, was neat and tidy, and we worked the ball into great areas of the football pitch.

Our overall defensive shape and structure is phenomenal. The players work so hard to get back behind the ball on turnover and the energy levels are incredible.

Negatives... overwhelmingly, we lack a sprinkle of quality in the final third, summed up by Anthony (who I thought was brilliant), taking a moon ball out of the sky on his left peg on the run, but then serving up a bobbler to Brownhill, who admittedly should score, but its that final piece of quality that is missing.

We need a striker who can play in behind desperately.

We over-played from the back today, not sure you can do that with Lauren as one of the holding two midfielders, he's not quite good enough on the ball. We created all of their chances through over playing.

Substitutions didn't work and with Koleosho bang out of form we have a clear issue down the left with a complete lack of balance.

Nonetheless, we aren't far away and the team & Parker deserve an unbelievable amount of credit.
Good post.

boyyanno
Posts: 2233
Joined: Fri May 27, 2016 7:25 pm
Been Liked: 762 times
Has Liked: 168 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by boyyanno » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:44 pm

BigGaz wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:41 pm
Steady with that agenda driven nonsense, jesus.
You stick to thinking it's only a chance if it's on target buddy.

GetIntoEm
Posts: 3091
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:17 pm
Been Liked: 840 times
Has Liked: 241 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by GetIntoEm » Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:57 pm

Doesn't take much for the morons to come back out does it.

Jakubclaret
Posts: 11021
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:47 pm
Been Liked: 1349 times
Has Liked: 897 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:02 pm

bfcmik wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:21 pm
You do realise that Boro had had a centre-back sent off before Wednesday started their comeback?

Besides, Boro would have been in a different set up and attitude for that game and this.
Yes of course. In the grand scheme of things with the points haul it's not represented a bad return. It's a tight table & draws will only get you so far.

The Shire Claret
Posts: 1151
Joined: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:17 am
Been Liked: 376 times
Has Liked: 285 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by The Shire Claret » Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:06 pm

On the way back from the game and we should have won

Anyone complaining after getting 4 points away at Sheff U and Borough need to give their heads a serious wobble

Jakubclaret
Posts: 11021
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:47 pm
Been Liked: 1349 times
Has Liked: 897 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:15 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:06 pm
On the way back from the game and we should have won

Anyone complaining after getting 4 points away at Sheff U and Borough need to give their heads a serious wobble
I don't think people are complaining but the slightest bit of criticism seems to be met with the extreme reactions from some people that people are complaining when overall everybody seems reasonably happy with the way things are going. You can be slightly critical also respectfully acknowledging that progress is being made.
This user liked this post: NickBFC

NewClaret
Posts: 17686
Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:51 am
Been Liked: 3980 times
Has Liked: 4932 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by NewClaret » Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:23 pm

Overall, pleased with a point away from home and on the back of a lot of travelling.

I felt Parker did the right thing sticking with a winning team but in the end we looked a bit laboured and sloppy, which is understandable. I feel the fixtures have been a bit unfortunate to group so many away against tough opposition together over Christmas.

Disappointing that Brownhill didn’t convert but overall don’t think we created enough chances to feel deserving of the three points. That’s the big next step for me: improving our chance creation in the final third.

Hopefully Parker recognises this and the club have a plan for January.

Clovius Boofus
Posts: 2397
Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:47 am
Been Liked: 1071 times
Has Liked: 328 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:54 am

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:57 pm
Doesn't take much for the morons to come back out does it.
You're right there. Just had a quick click though, and you can tell that some of them had a rotten Christmas after our recent results, and now they've resorted to bottom of the barrel scraping after an away point at Middlesbrough.

Quiet as mice when we win. Pathetic, aren't they.

bumba
Been Liked: 1 time
Has Liked: 950 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by bumba » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:11 am

It's hilarious the ones that pedalled out the positives for VK week in week out despite losing easily every week last season are now pedalling out negatives about Parker despite 4 points away at Sheff United and Boro over Christmas, best defence in the EFL, playing some good football, 11 unbeaten, 1 defeat in 21 games, 3rd in the league, happy squad, it's baffling.
This user liked this post: Walt

123EasyasBFC
Posts: 6794
Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:09 pm
Been Liked: 1287 times
Has Liked: 330 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:36 am

It is strange the stick the team are getting for last night. It was completely different to drawing 0-0 at home to Derby where fans have every right to be frustrated. Last night I thought we played very well, controlled most of the game and but for a goal line clearance and a miss from a player in form we win the game 2-0.

Yes there were some sloppy moments and times were you were crying out for the players to just shoot but after drawing 0-0 to Derby if we would of been offered 3 wins and a draw against Norwich Watford sheff utd Boro I would of taken that.

Onto Stoke now, early goal and win the game comfortably please!

BigGaz
Posts: 1142
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:24 pm
Been Liked: 465 times
Has Liked: 219 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by BigGaz » Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:03 am

In a forum where we currently have threads and posts claiming that Parkers substitutions last night where the worst anyone's ever seen, that tactically we were set up totally wrong, and that anything less than 3 points was a disgrace, more than a handful of people saying

'yeah decent result, a point at Boro is good, not too disappointing at all though I do wish we'd gone for the jugular a bit more against an injury ravaged side (in a season where I think it's widely accepted and is statistically accurate to say we don't create lots of chances)'

Are being targeted as being some sort of doom mongers that can't wait to put the boot in on Parker and see him fail.

Scott Fitzgerald famously wrote: “The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.

In this case, acknowledging it was a decent result but there's areas to improve. If anyone thinks otherwise then I've got some news for you: Toxic positivity is just as bad the (actual) doom mongering.

The Shire Claret
Posts: 1151
Joined: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:17 am
Been Liked: 376 times
Has Liked: 285 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by The Shire Claret » Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:27 am

BigGaz wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:03 am
In a forum where we currently have threads and posts claiming that Parkers substitutions last night where the worst anyone's ever seen, that tactically we were set up totally wrong, and that anything less than 3 points was a disgrace, more than a handful of people saying

'yeah decent result, a point at Boro is good, not too disappointing at all though I do wish we'd gone for the jugular a bit more against an injury ravaged side (in a season where I think it's widely accepted and is statistically accurate to say we don't create lots of chances)'

Are being targeted as being some sort of doom mongers that can't wait to put the boot in on Parker and see him fail.

Scott Fitzgerald famously wrote: “The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.

In this case, acknowledging it was a decent result but there's areas to improve. If anyone thinks otherwise then I've got some news for you: Toxic positivity is just as bad the (actual) doom mongering.
I agree with this absolutely but looking at the board and reading comments it's absolutely clear to me that there are far more balanced views on the positive side than the 'doom mongering' side

I'm struggling to see many 'Toxic Positivity comments' in the meanings true form with no narrative.... where the opposite doom mongering and moaning is rife.

No team is going to make it easy for us this season and going to Boro and having the better chances for which Brownhill should have don't better with as good as he is, and getting a point after beating the league leaders... is hard to be negative about on balance.

Can we point things out in hindsight, yes .... but a disaster ... far from it

GetIntoEm
Posts: 3091
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:17 pm
Been Liked: 840 times
Has Liked: 241 times

Re: Borough v The Mighty Clarets match thread

Post by GetIntoEm » Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:30 am

I think a point was a fair result, performance wasn't bad. They were a tough side to play against. We looked confident and comfortable. Just wasn't working in front of goal.

4 PTS from those 2 away games is Dreamland stuff.

On to Stoke. Classy home win and jobs a good un ready to beat the bastards

Post Reply