Inexplicable how Burnley fans liked a keeper who was a big part of us getting 100+ points in a title winning Championship season and was in the PFA team of the year. Can’t work it out.deanothedino wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:58 amBrian Jensen and Muric. Two keepers Burnley fans inexplicably loved.
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According to the only metric available with Opta for goalkeepers being to blame for goals. 1.Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 2:39 amHow many goals came from Trafford fanning around during the first 28 painful games?
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I liked Muric a lot during the promotion season but I think VK got it right with replacing Muric once promoted, he just needed to replace him with a goalkeeper who had more experience than Trafford. However I think the signing of Trafford was a great one, fantastic keeper, like a lot of the squad he just needed time, time the fans weren't prepared to give.
There's absolutely no doubt who the better keeper of the two is. Muric is an absolute liability, he'd make good saves then braindead errors, instead of getting over an error and calming down, he'd back it up with another error.
I remember the Spurs away game in the league, we are 1-0 up in the first half of a must win game and what does donkey Muric do? Instead of taking the sting out of the game and quieting the crowd, he proceeds to give the ball away 21 times in 1 half. (if that wasn't the official number, its close to).
How the F do you give the ball away 20 times in 1 half? At what point does your brain kick into gear and wake up. Kompany was screaming at him to calm down, yet he continued to make error after error after error. Then to make it worse, he shipped a soft goal at his near post.
It's fun watching a clown entertain in goal when you're winning every week, it's not so fun when you're not winning at all.
There's absolutely no doubt who the better keeper of the two is. Muric is an absolute liability, he'd make good saves then braindead errors, instead of getting over an error and calming down, he'd back it up with another error.
I remember the Spurs away game in the league, we are 1-0 up in the first half of a must win game and what does donkey Muric do? Instead of taking the sting out of the game and quieting the crowd, he proceeds to give the ball away 21 times in 1 half. (if that wasn't the official number, its close to).
How the F do you give the ball away 20 times in 1 half? At what point does your brain kick into gear and wake up. Kompany was screaming at him to calm down, yet he continued to make error after error after error. Then to make it worse, he shipped a soft goal at his near post.
It's fun watching a clown entertain in goal when you're winning every week, it's not so fun when you're not winning at all.
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Correct, he made two howlers everyone's been over it time and time again. it would have made no difference to the outcome of our season though, we went down due to the manager not either keeper.deanothedino wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:59 amI’d expect most PL keepers to not let the ball roll under their foot or not kick it straight at an oncoming striker but Muric managed both to cost us points.
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I think I agree with this.
I defended all 3 during the season. In all honesty, Muric looked better in pre-season and I was surprised he was not 1st choice when the season began. Trafford just wasn't ready for the #1 jersey and he is still only just growing into his big frame.
VK made the call. I can only assume he knew things that we didn't. With hindsight, he might have been wrong all along.
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I think inexplicably is a bit harsh. As another poster said about muric he was part of an unbelievable campaign for us and became a cult figure for his footballing technique. It's easy to see why he was liked.deanothedino wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:58 amBrian Jensen and Muric. Two keepers Burnley fans inexplicably loved.
Jensen is another who is remembered a bit like marmite. I feel he deserves more respect at times than he gets and for some the end of his career and complaints of the testimonial left a bitter taste. The reality was he was here for a considerable period of time and saw off two or three other keepers that were brought in to replace him. He was incredibly inconsistent. A bit like muric you might say. But was pivotal again for us in the promotion campaign. Again. The beast accumulated a cult status and probably rightly so. He was a good servant.
Both muric and Jensen are pivotal to our recent success and as such I'm not going to start labelling them as crap. At the time they featured for us we were unlikely to do better in either position. We would never find a keeper that had murics ability with the ball at his feet for the Kompany system in our price range and at the time Jensen was the better end of what we could get. And the reality is when we thought and tried to get better, Jensen took the position back.
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I’ll never understand how Jensen kept taking back. The other keepers were generally better, though Coyne was very unlucky with injuries.Conroy92 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 7:17 pmI think inexplicably is a bit harsh. As another poster said about muric he was part of an unbelievable campaign for us and became a cult figure for his footballing technique. It's easy to see why he was liked.
Jensen is another who is remembered a bit like marmite. I feel he deserves more respect at times than he gets and for some the end of his career and complaints of the testimonial left a bitter taste. The reality was he was here for a considerable period of time and saw off two or three other keepers that were brought in to replace him. He was incredibly inconsistent. A bit like muric you might say. But was pivotal again for us in the promotion campaign. Again. The beast accumulated a cult status and probably rightly so. He was a good servant.
Both muric and Jensen are pivotal to our recent success and as such I'm not going to start labelling them as crap. At the time they featured for us we were unlikely to do better in either position. We would never find a keeper that had murics ability with the ball at his feet for the Kompany system in our price range and at the time Jensen was the better end of what we could get. And the reality is when we thought and tried to get better, Jensen took the position back.
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Penny was one and he was bloody awful so it didn't take much for Jensen to win that one. But that one seemed to give him the confidence to suddenly become Peter Cech for the rest of the season, and the start of the next!deanothedino wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:58 pmI’ll never understand how Jensen kept taking back. The other keepers were generally better, though Coyne was very unlucky with injuries.
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Until the Wigan game. Which may be the most embarrassing performance by a Burnley keeper ever!
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I think the Muric pill would've been easier to swallow if he'd been given the chance to lose the shirt. I think everyone was surprised that Trafford immediately became no 1. The optics would've been better that way, and upon reflection I think it was just a lightning rod for a wider series of baffling personnel decisions that were taken and it wouldn't have been the big deal that it was if we'd managed to sign Tella, Maatsen etc.
I was camp Muric. He wasn't a bad shot stopper and he was a lot of fun. Nutmegging players and actively contributing to dangerous chances. It was exciting, but again upon reflection he was never far away from a brain fart that would cost us. I'd wager if you added up all the goals and points he contributed to, and weighed that against his errors directly or indirectly leading to goals and losses, his ledger would be well in the red.
I was camp Muric. He wasn't a bad shot stopper and he was a lot of fun. Nutmegging players and actively contributing to dangerous chances. It was exciting, but again upon reflection he was never far away from a brain fart that would cost us. I'd wager if you added up all the goals and points he contributed to, and weighed that against his errors directly or indirectly leading to goals and losses, his ledger would be well in the red.
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Muric was fantastic in the championship. Trafford is fantastic in the championship. Both underperformed and were liabilities in the premier league. Trafford more so than Muric as he was bullied at any opportunity by opposing teams as he wasn’t strong enough to hold is ground or command his box. Muric for me was better has he has better distribution and far sharper. This is something Trafford needs to learn very quickly if he stays and we go up.