Venky's are a disgrace

[mickleoverclaret]

"This is not THE Blackburn Rovers though. It is a fake imitation that has endured years of Venky's bullshit and is fighting with one arm tied behind its back. That's the truth of the matter."

The fake Blackburn Rovers was the one that was artificially parachuted into the Premier League by Jack Walker. The team you and the other 12k support now is the real Blackburn Rovers, still propped up artificially by your owners in a way that Burnley never have been, but playing at a realistic level for the size of club you are.

[Anonymous Claret]

The OP is bizarre. He/she calls Dunn a tosser and makes several references to Burnley FC as us and our etc.
Even if I was to go on their board undercover I could never call Jay Rod or Payts a tosser. I couldn't even bring myself to refer to the bastards as us or our even on a wind up.
It makes me think he/she might even be a Burnley fan as ludicrous as that sounds. I even know of an Hutchy who is a Burnley fan but who is big mates with loads of Blackburn fans..
If it is this Hutchy burn all your Spezial gear, stop idolising false prophets and return to the light
My other thought is that it could be one of 'Hutchy' s Blackburn supporting mates' on a wind up.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

Just noticed he only joined the board yesterday. Hope you enjoyed the game Hutchy, come back anytime as we love spanking you lot and yes we all agree, Dunn is a tosser

[winsomeyen]

God bless the guy who threw the snowball.

[TheFamilyCat]

Don't worry Hutchy, Glen Mullan will be handing his dossier to the FA, EPL, the national media and MI5 any day now.

[Claretforever]

I know a Blackburn fan named Hutchy, funnily enough, and he sounds a bit like the OP when he talks about not being “THE Blackburn Rovers.”

Joined yesterday I see too.

FWIW, Blackburn are exactly where they should be. It’s the level they tend to play at when they don’t have a rich benefactor backing them.

The other thing, post-Walker Blackburn had a trickle of Walker money each year, but the model also relied on them selling 1-2 stars to balance the books. They’d started running out of stars to sell and so debt was already around £25m when Venky’s bought them. That was a lot for a small town club in 2010. So, making out they were this well run, established club without problems on the horizon is total nonsense.

[Clovius Boofus]

Beating them as regularly as we have done under the Venky reign is fantastic, but it is starting to feel a bit hollow to me. Does anybody else feel the same?

This has got to be a wind-up?

BTW; I don't want to them go tits-up because I enjoy the rivalry and banter, however, I'd love to see them languishing in the bottom tier for 7 years or more. I worked with Blackburn fans during our nadir years, and boy did they give it to us.

It feels great to have the boot on the other foot, and long may this continue. UTC!

[Venkys4eva]

Venkys4eva is what I say

[steve1264b]

Consider the following context, Steve, and then tell me you still feel the same way:

Imagine for a moment it was Burnley that was an established Premier League club for nigh on 20 years. Burnley had won the Prem in 1995 and following promotion back to the Prem in 2001 had become a very solid mid table Prem side and had some unbelievable players like Duff, Tugay, Jansen, Cole and so on play for the club. Then, imagine in 2010 Burnley had players like Michel Salgado in the side and were on the verge of signing Robert Lewandowski. Burnley finish the 2009/10 Season 10th in the Prem and reach the League Cup semi finals. Six months later Venky's take over Burnley and proceed to wreck everything starting with relegation. Burnley today in 2025, is unrecognisable due to Venky's and has lost in pathetic fashion to Blackburn since Venky's came in.

The above is exactly what has happened to Rovers, not Burnley. I just used Burnley as an example to make the point.

In light of the above hypothetical scenario where you experienced it all at Pre Venky's Burnley, are you seriously telling me you're now going to be saying in 2025 after 14 years of crap:

"Oh, you know what, they put in £10m per year and keep the Academy running...I'm fine with that, it could be worse"?

Nobody in their right mind would, which is why the anger and discontent of the Rovers fans is fully justified and understandable.

Hutch, i would be moaning as you are about your club.

But what cannot be denied is without the venkys you would have been declared bankrupt and in division 3 and probably owned by some of the no marks who have tried to get some publicity by putting themselves forward without a penny to rub together.

They have made mistakes yes, but as owners they are no Steve Dale.

Give credit where it is due they have done nothing but provide the finance to support your club to maintain a position above where they should be financially.

[Terrier]

I know I have said this before but I worked with quite a lot of blackburn fans, some bad some good but even the ones I could talk to said they were going to have a party if orient had of beaten us.
A lot of the gobs#*tes stopped going on when they were relegated, not going to happen but I truly hope they go kaput never to be heard of again!

[bumba]

I'd never want them to go bust because it's a great day when we play that's what football is about BUT I'd happily see them slip down the leagues suffering slowly week in week out whilst still harping on about buying a title and being a 'big club'

[Zom Zom]

I wonder if that Rovers fan who threw a snowball at the Venkys, hitting one successfully, wishes he could view a different timeline to see how things may have padded out if he hadn't bothered.

[basil6345789]

They need to get Dunny back, cos he's a good un an hates The Clarets. Furthermore he's now back from the "pints and pies" rehab centre near Bury. A proper thoroughbred Basturd,

[IPAclaret]

So what the OP is basically saying, is that our recent victories over them doesnt mean that much because it's not the real bturds, it's just a shadow of their former selves.

You mean a bit like the 34 years and 11 games (7 wins, 4 draws) where bburn arrogantly laughed at us, when we were a poor side compared to our previous teams whilst at the same time, they were artificially elevated by uncle jack. Does that mean this also doesn't count ?

Honestly don't they spout some utter sh@te.

Oh and btw, it's now 11 games over nearly 15 years unbeaten against them including 5 straight wins at the lower Darwen pit. So basically the same record over them as they had previously over us. Except ours is clearly much better as the 2 teams recently have been more evenly matched.

And don't we all just fkn love it.

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[daveisaclaret]

The OP is pretty spot on. Can very much get on board with the people who are happy the Venky's are such bad owners, and it's right to point out that Rovers fans were originally very enthusiastic about them and the strength of the "boycott" has very closely correlated to how their team were doing on the field.

But what the Venky's have done is take an established Premier League team and turned it into a middling Championship team which nobody else would ever want to own. They are having to pump in so many millions to keep the club afloat and will find it impossible to ever sell. It will take administration or worse for Bastards to move on from Venky's.

[Culmclaret]

…..the ultimate Zombie club

[TheFamilyCat]

You mean a bit like the 34 years and 11 games (7 wins, 4 draws) where bburn arrogantly laughed at us, when we were a poor side compared to our previous teams whilst at the same time, they were artificially elevated by uncle jack. Does that mean this also doesn't count ?

I'd be quite happy if the 0-5 didn't count. Even happier if someone could wipe it from my memory.

[Ric_C]

I kind of get the sentiment, but truth be told, the BarStewards have embarrassed themselves with their behaviour over the last few years. The 2,000 ticket fiasco in 2023 made me remove any slight amount of sympathy I ever had for them.

They are a relic of a bygone age who survived because of a sugar daddy chairman. Glib outbursts of "35 years" and "well done on winning 21st place in the league" are not only petty, but just show how far they have fallen.

I'll never hope they go out of business, but they are showing now, that they have no answer to us when they are struggling for cash. We got to the promised land with blood sweat and tears. The irony of them spouting off about squad values and rich vs poor, is totally lost on the mindless simpletons within their fan base

Long live the Venkys

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[Bfc]

Out of curiosity, I wonder if the Venky’s bothered watching the match, or if they watch any of their matches?.
Also would they approve or have any knowledge the club had refused to sell us 4,000 tickets, thereby losing a sizeable match day income?.
Maybe if the Venky’s Clan gathered in their mansion clad in the team shirts, watching it on TV, they would turning it off, after the 60th minute and having a board meeting, about sacking the manager. If only.

[Hutchy]

You cannot put aside the rivalry or even think you can what a stupid post

I get what you mean, but my point is try to look at the situation objectively for a second, taking the rivalry out of the equation. Imagine if Venky's had done all of this to an inoffensive (to us) Premier League club and 15 years later were still taking the **** at that same club. Would we all be praising them for being wonderful owners? Would we still be laughing? Would we be slating the fans of that club for 'not being grateful' for Venky's?

I very much doubt it. There would be an acknowledgement from clarets, pne etc that they are terrible owners that have wrecked a solid Premier League club. Most of us are only laughing and loving this because it's bastards that are on the end of it. If we look at it objectively, Venky's are an absolute disgrace in reality.

[Hapag Lloyd]

I get what you mean, but my point is try to look at the situation objectively for a second, taking the rivalry out of the equation. Imagine if Venky's had done all of this to an inoffensive (to us) Premier League club and 15 years later were still taking the **** at that same club. Would we all be praising them for being wonderful owners? Would we still be laughing? Would we be slating the fans of that club for 'not being grateful' for Venky's?

I very much doubt it. There would be an acknowledgement from clarets, pne etc that they are terrible owners that have wrecked a solid Premier League club. Most of us are only laughing and loving this because it's bastards that are on the end of it. If we look at it objectively, Venky's are an absolute disgrace in reality.

Dry your eyes mate.

[elwaclaret]

I’m old enough to remember Bill Fox, Howard Kendall and then Don McKay working miracles at an old dilapidated rotting wood and asbestos ground, regularly over achieving in the top half of the second division… that was the real Rovers.

Jack Walker loved his town and had the money to self indulge in his fantasy of giving Rovers their day at the summit of football. After that he wanted them to be self sustaining…. Something the Venkies are still struggling to do.

Do I feel any sympathy for Rovers fans, no more than they did when they they had when news broke Burnley may be taken over by Colne Dynamos (who were also living a fraudulent dream at the time).

[ClaretPete001]

The OP is pretty spot on. Can very much get on board with the people who are happy the Venky's are such bad owners, and it's right to point out that Rovers fans were originally very enthusiastic about them and the strength of the "boycott" has very closely correlated to how their team were doing on the field.

But what the Venky's have done is take an established Premier League team and turned it into a middling Championship team which nobody else would ever want to own. They are having to pump in so many millions to keep the club afloat and will find it impossible to ever sell. It will take administration or worse for Bastards to move on from Venky's.

Rovers are having a decent season and have some good young players and yet are only 17th in the attendance table including the 26,000 who attended yesterday. We are 14th and Preston are 18th...

Venky's have not run the club well but what are Rovers' fans belief about the potential of their club based upon? Certainly not the numbers that attend matches. Perhaps their time would be better invested talking to their neighbours about attending a match or two

[Hutchy]

Hutchy - yes or no are you a rovers fan? Joined..... ooops 6 hours after Burnley beat rovers at deadwood? Yet pretends to be a Claret with the most bizarre post ever.

No, we don't feel any sympathy. I want to see them slide down and out of the league, just like they wanted for us.

Sorry, didn't see this post last night. I am not a Rovers fan. I am a claret that simply hates seeing careless, arrogant, knobhead owners ruining clubs that mean so much to each respective fanbase and community. I even apply this to that lot. I get that not all owners get it right. Sometimes owners make poor decisions and things go wrong. If a club subsequently slides and naturally has a bit of a crap time you can live with that, as the owners cared/tried, their heart was in the right place. I don't think anybody here can genuinely argue that Venky's give a stuff about Blackburn. Them paying the bills does not show care or intent. They simply have to pay the bills by law!

In January 2022, Mowbray's Rovers are sat inside the top 6. They don't give him a penny to try and seal a play off place.

In January 2023, Jon Dahl Tomasson's Rovers arr sat inside the top 6. They don't give him a penny to try and seal a play off place.

Now, they've got Jon Eustace making the same noises to the press about needing January signings with them sat in 7th, but it looking like he will have no money to spend. There's a reason why Eustace to West Brom rumours are growing. He legit could be gone in Feb if they **** him about just like they did with previous managers.

I'm not trying to drum up sympathy (that would be absurd) All I'm saying imagine is if Venky's had found us as a top 10 Premier League club in 2010 and over 14 years had reduced us to this embarrassing mess where all we can bring in is the cheapest of frees and loans. We would not be taking it calmly. My OP was and is only about those rotten owners, because that is what they are. Forget the club they own.

[fidelcastro]

Sorry, didn't see this post last night. I am not a Rovers fan. I am a claret that simply hates seeing careless, arrogant, knobhead owners ruining clubs that mean so much to each respective fanbase and community. I even apply this to that lot. I get that not all owners get it right. Sometimes owners make poor decisions and things go wrong. If a club subsequently slides and naturally has a bit of a crap time you can live with that, as the owners cared/tried, their heart was in the right place. I don't think anybody here can genuinely argue that Venky's give a stuff about Blackburn. Them paying the bills does not show care or intent. They simply have to pay the bills by law!

In January 2022, Mowbray's Rovers are sat inside the top 6. They don't give him a penny to try and seal a play off place.

In January 2023, Jon Dahl Tomasson's Rovers arr sat inside the top 6. They don't give him a penny to try and seal a play off place.

Now, they've got Jon Eustace making the same noises to the press about needing January signings with them sat in 7th, but it looking like he will have no money to spend. There's a reason why Eustace to West Brom rumours are growing. He legit could be gone in Feb if they **** him about just like they did with previous managers.

I'm not trying to drum up sympathy (that would be absurd) All I'm saying imagine is if Venky's had found us as a top 10 Premier League club in 2010 and over 14 years had reduced us to this embarrassing mess where all we can bring in is the cheapest of frees and loans. We would not be taking it calmly. My OP was and is only about those rotten owners, because that is what they are. Forget the club they own.

Why do you care so much?

I don't.

[Bosscat]

Sorry, didn't see this post last night. My OP was and is only about those rotten owners, because that is what they are. Forget the club they own.

**** em ...

[Bfc]

Chairman Bill Fox, another who hated Burnley and enjoyed beating us. I hated him and took great satisfaction going to see his coffin being carried from the hearse at the Cathedral and looking at the weeping throng of supporters. The pleasure of knowing he was gone forever and not listening to his gloating about their superiority made my day.

[Hutchy]

They should be thankful that they are not worse than they currently are, it's only Venky's money that has kept them from going completely bust in recent years. They can spin the 'costs Venky's have caused' line all they want, it's rubbish and they know it, debts were being routinely written-off before Venky's took over the club. Not seen a huge queue of willing buyers to take them on, long may it continue.

I'll shed the same number of tears they shed for us when we were a shambles, zero.

They should be thankful to Venky's for ripping away their Premier League status? For having them in this state today? The only reason they are in the Championship and have found themselves stuck in it is Venky's. Some make the argument you have that 'without their money they would be in League One'. But why does nobody consider the following viewpoint:

"Without Venky's turning up Blackburn would still be a Premier League club today".

Look back to May 2010 and you'll recall that they were in no real danger of relegation from the Prem. They had Big Sam as manager and a few sellable assets like Hoillett, N'Zonzi, Martin Olsson, Kalinic and they were trying to sign the likes of Lewandowski. Are those the signs of a club that was inevitably going to be relegated? No, is the simple answer. They were relegated due to Venky's and have never recovered since, because of Venky's.

On the willing buyers point...four consortiums have approached Venky's to buy the club in the past 18 months. Two American, one Middle Eastern. All have been ignored. They flatly refuse to sell, to the bafflement of most football fans.

[NottsClaret]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

[fidelcastro]

They should be thankful to Venky's for ripping away their Premier League status? For having them in this state today? The only reason they are in the Championship and have found themselves stuck in it is Venky's. Some make the argument you have that 'without their money they would be in League One'. But why does nobody consider the following viewpoint:

"Without Venky's turning up Blackburn would still be a Premier League club today".

Look back to May 2010 and you'll recall that they were in no real danger of relegation from the Prem. They had Big Sam as manager and a few sellable assets like Hoillett, N'Zonzi, Martin Olsson, Kalinic and they were trying to sign the likes of Lewandowski. Are those the signs of a club that was inevitably going to be relegated? No, is the simple answer. They were relegated due to Venky's and have never recovered since, because of Venky's.

On the willing buyers point...four consortiums have approached Venky's to buy the club in the past 18 months. Two American, one Middle Eastern. All have been ignored. They flatly refuse to sell, to the bafflement of most football fans.

You seem very knowledgeable about THEIR situation for someone who claims you're a Burnley fan.

Funny that.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

You still droning on??

Blackburns league position had been artificially inflated by Walker

Get over it, move on

[TheFamilyCat]

I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to achieve here Hutchy. You're doing an appalling job of convincing anyone that you're a Burnley fan. If you're on a fishing trip, you'd be better off in the canal at Brierfield. I can only assume you are incredibly bored or a sandwich or two short of a picnic.

[Anonymous Claret]

Why do you care so much?

I don't.

It doesn't make sense does it? Of all the teams that have bad owners he chooses to join the board and have a cry about Venkys on the day that we have just celebrated another historic victory against them.

FWIW I think the real villains to the Blackburn fans should be the Walker family who couldn't wait to get of the club or Jerome Anderson who fleeced a fortune from the Venkys.

[Anonymous Claret]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Thats what I was thinking.

[Hutchy]

Why do you care so much?

I don't.

I wouldn't say I care 'so much' but, IMO, something is not right over there, which is why I have made this post. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for banter, laughs and rivalry. I've had my fill of belly laughs at the circus that went on there in the early days of Venky's. Steve Kean clearly winding that lot up in press conferences, that fat ******* Dunn munching a chicken drumstick in that hideous advert, Shebby Singh and the crackers he came out with...all of that was gold for a while.

However, there comes a point where it stops being funny and you start thinking 'hang on, something isn't right here'. Do you guys know what I mean? Like how it was funny for a while to see Utd get battered under Moyes etc but you then to start to think 'hold on, this ain't right'. Bastards appointing Owen Coyle was that moment for me. That looked like somebody taking the ****, especially when it has since transpired that one of the then Rovers Directors had Neil Warnock all set to come in as the new manager. Why would you then choose Coyle at the last minute, who effectively got them relegated? If you truly want promotion Neil Warnock is your man, especially back then.

I admit, I'll be among a minority. Delighted with yesterday, always want us to beat them and to be above them, but I can see there's something wrong with that club and it goes right to the top. Venky's. The plus side for us is that they will never, ever, finish above us for as long as Venky's remain there. I fully get the Venky praise and love in and people wanting them to stay forever from our fanbase. But no club deserves such owners and to see their club ruined like that.

I genuinely hope the Indian Government can force them out and that we can get back to proper matches and battles between the two. They currently resemble a 58 year old Mike Tyson.

[elwaclaret]

"Without Venky's turning up Blackburn would still be a Premier League club today".

Jack Walker’s children had no interest in Rovers, it was their father’s thing (his brother was a Burnley fan): soon as they could they stopped putting money in and wanted rid. They saw the Venkies coming a mile off.

Look back to May 2010 and you'll recall that they were in no real danger of relegation from the Prem. They had Big Sam as manager and a few sellable assets

Rovers fans were delighted when Big Sam was sacked, they thought they were far better than his brand of football.

On the willing buyers point...four consortiums have approached Venky's to buy the club in the past 18 months. Two American, one Middle Eastern. All have been ignored. They flatly refuse to sell, to the bafflement of most football fans.


Utter tosh, if any serious attempt to take over Rovers had taken place it would be in the national press, not being discussed in the local.

[Bosscat]

I wouldn't say I care 'so much' but, IMO, something is not right over there, which is why I have made this post. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for banter, laughs and rivalry. I've had my fill of belly laughs at the circus that went on there in the early days of Venky's. Steve Kean clearly winding that lot up in press conferences, that fat ******* Dunn munching a chicken drumstick in that hideous advert, Shebby Singh and the crackers he came out with...all of that was gold for a while.

However, there comes a point where it stops being funny and you start thinking 'hang on, something isn't right here'. Do you guys know what I mean? Like how it was funny for a while to see Utd get battered under Moyes etc but you then to start to think 'hold on, this ain't right'. Bastards appointing Owen Coyle was that moment for me. That looked like somebody taking the ****, especially when it has since transpired that one of the then Rovers Directors had Neil Warnock all set to come in as the new manager. Why would you then choose Coyle at the last minute, who effectively got them relegated? If you truly want promotion Neil Warnock is your man, especially back then.

I admit, I'll be among a minority. Delighted with yesterday, always want us to beat them and to be above them, but I can see there's something wrong with that club and it goes right to the top. Venky's. The plus side for us is that they will never, ever, finish above us for as long as Venky's remain there. I fully get the Venky praise and love in and people wanting them to stay forever from our fanbase. But no club deserves such owners and to see their club ruined like that.

I genuinely hope the Indian Government can force them out and that we can get back to proper matches and battles between the two. They currently resemble a 58 year old Mike Tyson.

**** em ...

[Dyched]

I wouldn't say I care 'so much' but, IMO, something is not right over there, which is why I have made this post. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for banter, laughs and rivalry. I've had my fill of belly laughs at the circus that went on there in the early days of Venky's. Steve Kean clearly winding that lot up in press conferences, that fat ******* Dunn munching a chicken drumstick in that hideous advert, Shebby Singh and the crackers he came out with...all of that was gold for a while.

However, there comes a point where it stops being funny and you start thinking 'hang on, something isn't right here'. Do you guys know what I mean? Like how it was funny for a while to see Utd get battered under Moyes etc but you then to start to think 'hold on, this ain't right'. Bastards appointing Owen Coyle was that moment for me. That looked like somebody taking the ****, especially when it has since transpired that one of the then Rovers Directors had Neil Warnock all set to come in as the new manager. Why would you then choose Coyle at the last minute, who effectively got them relegated? If you truly want promotion Neil Warnock is your man, especially back then.

I admit, I'll be among a minority. Delighted with yesterday, always want us to beat them and to be above them, but I can see there's something wrong with that club and it goes right to the top. Venky's. The plus side for us is that they will never, ever, finish above us for as long as Venky's remain there. I fully get the Venky praise and love in and people wanting them to stay forever from our fanbase. But no club deserves such owners and to see their club ruined like that.

I genuinely hope the Indian Government can force them out and that we can get back to proper matches and battles between the two. They currently resemble a 58 year old Mike Tyson.

Even if they didn’t get relegated when they did, they would have at some point. They spend 11 years in the PL when they went down. They’d be on 25 now. It’s very hard to image with how that league has changed that they wouldn’t have fallen at some point. They’re a solid Championship club under Venkys and they ain’t miles off going up. You’re talking maybe a forward with an extra 10 goals and they’ll be up. They’re probably one of the strongest Championship teams that hasn’t been in the PL for a while. That ain’t too bad considering the money what us and a few others around the play offs have received over the past few years.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Hutch is also forgetting they got relegated when Walker was still running the club, Brian Kidd was manager

[elwaclaret]

Hutch is also forgetting they got relegated when Walker was still running the club, Brian Kidd was manager

Rovers fans made the place toxic for Kidd that season too…

[fidelcastro]

Hutch is also forgetting they got relegated when Walker was still running the club, Brian Kidd was manager

Yes, who can forget that image of Walker crying in the stands?

[ISpeds00]

Hi all. Absolutely loving the fact that our unbeaten run against that lot goes on. However, it has to be said...as much as we love their demise, as much as we have laughed and enjoyed the past decade...what an absolute disgrace their owners are. Venky's really are the pits and I genuinely mean that as a keen football observer.

Let's put aside the rivalry, it being the bastards and any memories of what their fans were like back in the day for a minute, and look at it objectively as true football fans. Some absolute no marks from India turn up in 2010 and buy a well established Premier League club. They gut a squad containing some serious players like Salgado, Samba, Nelsen, Pedersen, Dunn (tosser). They employ a rotten scoundrel and let him and his agent run riot and subsequently get relegated. They then do NOTHING for the next 12 years to get the club back into the Prem, instead they lower the standards every year and have the club constantly look an embarrassment against their local rivals. No shame, no remorse on show. Not a care. They can't be bothered to attend a game. We would be livid if that was us and Venky's had wrecked our club in the same manner, let's be honest.

They (Venky's) then pass up opportunity after opportunity of trying to kick on for promotion with Rovers sat inside the top 6 for three January's running, being happy to just avoid relegation. They **** Mowbray off and then Tomasson by showing zero ambition and now Eustace is making similar noises about 'needing quality to come in'. He's in for major disappointment on that front. They don't do 'quality' because that means they have to spend something. Look at how utterly toothless they were in attack today. We could be playing until midnight and they still wouldn't have scored.

Beating them as regularly as we have done under the Venky reign is fantastic, but it is starting to feel a bit hollow to me. Does anybody else feel the same? It's like teams beating Man Utd comfortably today. Yeah, it's still Man Utd in name, but it is not THE Man Utd, therefore it isn't the same buzz. Man Utd today are a shitshow, a circus brought about by their owners. The same applies to Blackburn for me, though we can only beat what is in front of us. This is not THE Blackburn Rovers though. It is a fake imitation that has endured years of Venky's bullshit and is fighting with one arm tied behind its back. That's the truth of the matter.

Some may not agree, but I hate seeing any English club being treated like this by idiotic foreign owners who have no affinity or care for what they own. It's always the fans that suffer. Venky's are well in the race for being the worst owners in English football right now. At least the Reading guy is openly a *******. This lot's PR machine has them painted as being such generous people with their '£20m a year on running costs' spiel. Costs that they have caused and are responsible for!

What are your genuine views about Venky's? All jokes aside. I honestly don't think any club or fanbase deserves such rotten owners, not even them.

Who gives a toss
**** em

[ŽižkovClaret]

Venkys out! In all likelihood if they walked away they would go bust

[timshorts]

The venky's are clucking brilliant.

The championships answer to fat Mike Ashley, save that they don't use the ground and the club to advertise their chickens in the same way.

If they were built in the mould of the glazers, they would be taking money out of the club, but no, they keep putting it in. Just enough to keep them safe from going back to the third tier. In fact, pretty much just as they have done throughout my memory. The only bit that was different was when somebody decided to splurge an unsustainable amount of investment into them.

[ClaretPete001]

I wouldn't say I care 'so much' but, IMO, something is not right over there, which is why I have made this post. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for banter, laughs and rivalry. I've had my fill of belly laughs at the circus that went on there in the early days of Venky's. Steve Kean clearly winding that lot up in press conferences, that fat ******* Dunn munching a chicken drumstick in that hideous advert, Shebby Singh and the crackers he came out with...all of that was gold for a while.

However, there comes a point where it stops being funny and you start thinking 'hang on, something isn't right here'. Do you guys know what I mean? Like how it was funny for a while to see Utd get battered under Moyes etc but you then to start to think 'hold on, this ain't right'. Bastards appointing Owen Coyle was that moment for me. That looked like somebody taking the ****, especially when it has since transpired that one of the then Rovers Directors had Neil Warnock all set to come in as the new manager. Why would you then choose Coyle at the last minute, who effectively got them relegated? If you truly want promotion Neil Warnock is your man, especially back then.

I admit, I'll be among a minority. Delighted with yesterday, always want us to beat them and to be above them, but I can see there's something wrong with that club and it goes right to the top. Venky's. The plus side for us is that they will never, ever, finish above us for as long as Venky's remain there. I fully get the Venky praise and love in and people wanting them to stay forever from our fanbase. But no club deserves such owners and to see their club ruined like that.

I genuinely hope the Indian Government can force them out and that we can get back to proper matches and battles between the two. They currently resemble a 58 year old Mike Tyson.

I think you are somewhat off the mark Hutch. I agree the sacking of Allardyce was a poor decision and what followed was farcical but the problem Rover's faced was that Jack Walker's investment was enormous when he originally made it but he was not a wealthy man in PL terms by the time Allardyce left 20 years later.

For example, Shearer was bought for £3.6 million in 92/93 by 2010 when Allardyce left City spent over Eur70 million on Silva and Toure alone.

To be honest I think Rovers have a decent team and manager and their fans should STFU and support the team.

[Claret86]

Is this guy serious?
Blackburn were in a false position for years. Money pouring in for players and a practically brand new stadium and training facilities. They didn't deserve any of it.
The venkys are idiots but they've only took them down to a more natural position. It's coincided with us building and fighting our way back up.
I enjoy every single victory and dread everytime we play them as its sickening to lose

[KateR]

I still have thoughts about Agent Venky's coming out at some time wearing Claret & Blue, making a statement about it being worth every penny, followed by the Clarets fans presenting a signed petition from tens of thousands, demanding a Venky's statue outside the Turf. Usually, I wake up around this time, and just smile quietly to myself, but secretly still wondering things like, they just can't be this bad for this length of time, can they!!

[gawthorpe_view]

Beating them is hollow?

Here's something. If Rovers were playing on a park in Darwen against the Dog & Duck and somehow miraculously got to the FA Cup Third round and were drawn against us... then I'd still get a buzz about beating them.

For what it's worth, what goes around comes around and it's a nice serendipitous moment that Rovers fans have experienced both sides of the football finance coin.

During the long cold winter of 78/79 I think, there was no football for weeks on end
Radio Blackburn organised a darts match, Clarets v Dollopers, we won and I was delighted, to beat them at anything is a joy.

[Commy]

When they got relegated they had to get their wage bill down so had to sell players. The fans are too thick to realise this and thought they would just keep spending to get them back up. Didn't they have an embargo due to finances? They also came down before the big tv deals came out. The fans then turned against the owners so they don't even turn up any more. Maybe that once their finances were sorted they would have tried to build another team but for that. Now it's a question of who would buy them, if they were for sale. The debt needs sorting and the ground needs an awful lot spending on it. Then they have to find money for a team to get out of the league. They do have the best people owning it at the minute as they keep putting money in to keep them going.

[Colburn_Claret]

I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to achieve here Hutchy. You're doing an appalling job of convincing anyone that you're a Burnley fan. If you're on a fishing trip, you'd be better off in the canal at Brierfield. I can only assume you are incredibly bored or a sandwich or two short of a picnic.

Leave him alone, I like him, he's funny.

Reading their message board, and Hutchs posts, serves as a pleasant reminder of the utter agony they are in. It isn't hurt, it's much deeper. The fact that they can't comprehend that without JW buying the league, they really are just a middling league team makes it even funnier.