January Transfer Window Rumours

[BigGaz]

For Balance, MUD/Recruitment Team and whomever responsible have done some remarkable signings as well.

The three players we had on loan but failed to sign have won an England cap, won the German league and played in a champions league final for starters.

Esteve and Trafford will go for somewhere in the region of 30 a piece and by all accounts we rejected bids of north of 20m for Luca and Foster in the summer. Odobert broke our all time outgoing fee. The players that they brought in two seasons ago resulted in one of the all time best Championship sides the league had ever seen.

With that said, they've signed some dirge as well, very hit and miss. Rather than consolidating with the players we have had they've appeared to want an almost rotating door of players to showcase and hopefully sell on.

[warksclaret]

The Delcroix one is a bit shortsighted for me. He covers left cb and LB to a decent level (better than Pires).
I think the smarter thing to do would probably be to sell Pires as we could probably get a few million for him and then use that to reinvest.

Hes never going to get in the team. If Esteve is injured we will play either Humphreys there or more likely Egan, plus you have Worrall. Delcroix has had one very good game v Spurs in the FA Cup. Hes featured 12 times in 18 months mainly as a sub, and been injured since the end of last season. I suspect if we find a buyer the taxi ranks in Burnley will be on tick-over

[123EasyasBFC]

Whether it was down to Kompany, the recruitment team or MUD analytics we made some shocking signings. Hard to even see the logic in some of them.

Suppose every clubs make poor signings but some of ours have been terrible

Churlinov at 3-4m is another shocking bit of business

[colne-claret]

I dont understand this. RCB and LCB should be treated as separate positions in a sense. I'd have thought Delcroix is our most natural Esteve replacement if he were to get injured to maintain the balance.

I’d rather see Worrall or Egan come in should Esteve get injured.

[Row x]

Suppose every clubs make poor signings but some of ours have been terrible

Churlinov at 3-4m is another shocking bit of business

Business wise, how much did we get for him?

[123EasyasBFC]

Business wise, how much did we get for him?

Doubt in the 2 loan moves he’s had we have received much in a loan fee

[Steddyman]

Can we throw in Foster too with the deal for Houtonji?

[woody]

Doubt in the 2 loan moves he’s had we have received much in a loan fee

They're not even covering all his wages !

[Row x]

Doubt in the 2 loan moves he’s had we have received much in a loan fee

Sorry, I didn't realise we hadn't sold him, my mistake

[DCWat]

Given he was at Stockport that would be a step down for him!

You’re not kidding!

Please don’t let him go there and aid their promotion push!

[warksclaret]

Yes some real shockers-Bastian, Churlinov, Delcroix (one good game in 18 months), Tresor (the Lord Lucan of the north west), and Redmond (12 games in 18 months too and the great majority on the bench).

[ŽižkovClaret]

Didnt Churlinov have sepsis? Not much can be done there

[claretonthecoast1882]

Didnt Churlinov have sepsis? Not much can be done there

Yeah but we should have known that he would get it, same as we should have known Redmond would get a serious injury or that at around 500k we should have known Bastian wouldn't be better than Cullen or Brownhill.

[summitclaret]

Can we throw in Foster too with the deal for Houtonji?

Do you know anything about football?

[dibraidio]

Given that he got injured early on and has played very little for Stockport Mellon has little or no chance of getting a game if he stays there. Not even sure that he has that option. Chesterfield, Bradford or Walsall would all be better options than no football at this stage in his development.

Surprised that Costelloe has disappeared from the Accrington squads over the festive period. I wonder if he's being lined up for another move also. He's done OK this season and played 21 games before Christmas. 5 goals from right wing is far better than he managed for Bradford or Dundee.
Dodgson is another who would probably benefit from a loan move.

[Ric_C]

Just on the topic of our poor signings, we seem to have had a lot of bad luck with either really bad injuries and or illness over the last 18 months

Beyer
Tresor
Redmond
Ramsey
Benson
Ekdal

Have hardly kicked a ball for us over the last year. Not great for a £40-45 million outlay

[LDNBFC87]

Do you know anything about football?

Clearly not.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think it’s quite clear your gonna have some shockers and your gonna have some real gems with this recruitment tactic.

I think it’s a fair gamble for a club our size to take.

[BigGaz]

Exactly. We're going for the profile of player nowadays that we were all saying we should be going for back when the running joke was which of Stokes cast offs we'd be taking on that season.

I did a post a month or so back that I CBA retrieving but we are sizeably more 'up' on our overall record than we are 'down'

[burnleycclaret]

Any more transfer rumours?

[AfloatinClaret]

...Dodgson is another who would probably benefit from a loan move.

Didn't someone suggest only the other day, that we need to retain Dodgson (and Jay-Rod) to comply with the league's home-grown/developed player rules?

[123EasyasBFC]

I think it’s quite clear your gonna have some shockers and your gonna have some real gems with this recruitment tactic.

I think it’s a fair gamble for a club our size to take.

That’s the thing, it is a gamble for a club like ours, even though it’s only 3m, hountonji is a gamble at 3m for any championship club

[NewClaret]

That’s the thing, it is a gamble for a club like ours, even though it’s only 3m, hountonji is a gamble at 3m for any championship club

Not really when it represents about 3% of your summer sales.

I reiterate, how many predicted CJ’s emergence? Maybe let’s not write players off a few months in to their time with us?

Either way, it’s absolutely clear that on the whole our recruitment finds more gems and has created bigger profits than it’s generated losses. Some moves will work, others will, it’s part of the model. At least give them a chance though.

[123EasyasBFC]

Not really when it represents about 3% of your summer sales.

I reiterate, how many predicted CJ’s emergence? Maybe let’s not write players off a few months in to their time with us?

Either way, it’s absolutely clear that on the whole our recruitment finds more gems and has created bigger profits than it’s generated losses. Some moves will work, others will, it’s part of the model. At least give them a chance though.

Summer sales that covered loss in prem TV money and serviced debt, 3m is still a risk on an unknown from French second division.

You can’t compare Egan Riley who’s contract had expired at city and we only ended up paying a small compensation for

[Firthy]

Any more transfer rumours?

Can we keep it on topic please

[NewClaret]

Summer sales that covered loss in prem TV money and serviced debt, 3m is still a risk on an unknown from French second division.

You can’t compare Egan Riley who’s contract had expired at city and we only ended up paying a small compensation for

I disagree on your first point. What should we be signing players for? £500k each?

On your latter, the point was that players do t have to join and prove themselves Immediately. CJ is in his 3rd season.

[bfcmik]

I'm fairly sure that Hountondji was said to be one for the future right from the day we signed him, same as Agyei, Sambo and a few others.

[randomclaret2]

I'm fairly sure that Hountondji was said to be one for the future right from the day we signed him, same as Agyei, Sambo and a few others.

Still only young in footballing terms and time yet to maybe come good for us...he's only actually a few months older than Dodgson for example

[burnley007]

Will be interesting to see when the rumours start for any big signings. We did well last Jan, with Steeeeve, Assignon and Fofana.

[brexit]

Always ask at this point is there anybody in the U21 Squad that could make the step-up?

[Stonehouse]

I think it’s quite clear your gonna have some shockers and your gonna have some real gems with this recruitment tactic.

I think it’s a fair gamble for a club our size to take.

Had a Quick Look at VK’s signings and I reckon 16 out of 46 haven’t been very good and I’m classing ADD Ekdal and Beyer as good signing because they had a good first season ,but approximately 33% failure in the Transfer Market isn’t really viable for a club the size of ours,whereas up to press i think there’s only Hountondji that’s been a bit of a let down out of SP’s signings.

[gandhisflipflop]

Will be interesting to see when the rumours start for any big signings. We did well last Jan, with Steeeeve, Assignon and Fofana.

What’s assignon doing this season? Sign him back up

[KRBFC]

Had a Quick Look at VK’s signings and I reckon 16 out of 46 haven’t been very good and I’m classing ADD Ekdal and Beyer as good signing because they had a good first season ,but approximately 33% failure in the Transfer Market isn’t really viable for a club the size of ours,whereas up to press i think there’s only Hountondji that’s been a bit of a let down out of SP’s signings.

Name the 16 not good ones…. I’d bet nearly all of them were signed on the cheap as back up squad players, like Bastien at 500k, he wasn’t a world beater but he played his role and helped win promotion.

If you’re counting the likes of Delcroix and Bastien as failures for VK then John Egan and Ettiene Greene have to be failures for Parker

[Alan Young]

Had a Quick Look at VK’s signings and I reckon 16 out of 46 haven’t been very good and I’m classing ADD Ekdal and Beyer as good signing because they had a good first season ,but approximately 33% failure in the Transfer Market isn’t really viable for a club the size of ours,whereas up to press i think there’s only Hountondji that’s been a bit of a let down out of SP’s signings.

Surely that depends on which ones are failures. If it’s mainly the low risk ones then it’s less of an issue. Too many Tresors and it’s a problem.

I’d say there’s more pressure on this season’s signings to be a success i.e win promotion, because there doesn’t seem to be much profit to be made on sales.

[Spijed]

Name the 16 not good ones…. I’d bet nearly all of them were signed on the cheap as back up squad players, like Bastien at 500k, he wasn’t a world beater but he played his role and helped win promotion.

If you’re counting the likes of Delcroix and Bastien as failures for VK then John Egan and Ettiene Greene have to be failures for Parker

Tresor is certainly a big resounding failure. Money we can I'll afford

[colne-claret]

Name the 16 not good ones…. I’d bet nearly all of them were signed on the cheap as back up squad players, like Bastien at 500k, he wasn’t a world beater but he played his role and helped win promotion.

If you’re counting the likes of Delcroix and Bastien as failures for VK then John Egan and Ettiene Greene have to be failures for Parker

Foster, Churlinov, Franchi, Bastien, Obafemi, Twine, McNally, Dervisolgu, Delcroix, Massengo, Tresor, Vigouroux, Redmond, Ramsey (so far, hoping he comes good), there’s an argument for Amdouni, Sambo

Some good players on this list that just haven’t worked out for us. I’ve included foster because I don’t think we’ve seen returns that you’d expect for his prize. Similar with Amdouni.

[NewClaret]

What’s assignon doing this season? Sign him back up

Yes please. Although Conner Roberts is having a very good season.

[NewClaret]

Had a Quick Look at VK’s signings and I reckon 16 out of 46 haven’t been very good and I’m classing ADD Ekdal and Beyer as good signing because they had a good first season ,but approximately 33% failure in the Transfer Market isn’t really viable for a club the size of ours,whereas up to press i think there’s only Hountondji that’s been a bit of a let down out of SP’s signings.

Did you have a go at totalling up the profits on the 66% vs the losses on the 33%. Only that can tell you what our club can afford?

[burnley007]

What’s assignon doing this season? Sign him back up

I really liked him, but RB is the least of our worries atm.

[KRBFC]

Foster, Churlinov, Franchi, Bastien, Obafemi, Twine, McNally, Dervisolgu, Delcroix, Massengo, Tresor, Vigouroux, Redmond, Ramsey (so far, hoping he comes good), there’s an argument for Amdouni, Sambo

Some good players on this list that just haven’t worked out for us. I’ve included foster because I don’t think we’ve seen returns that you’d expect for his prize. Similar with Amdouni.

I mean when a manager signs a 3rd and 4th choice goalkeeper for that purpose, how can they be considered failure signings? Insignificant sure but failures?

Same goes with Delcroix, Dervisoglu, Bastien and Massengo. 3 permanent signings for a combined £1.5m. It’s important to consider why they were signed, what role were they signed for? They were squad fillers, not signed to play every week.

Churlinov Twine Amdouni Tresor were signed for bigger fees and clearly expected to produce considerably more than the names above. They were failed signings. Twine did play a role towards the end of the season though, so you could say he contributed towards the club receiving £130m or whatever it is now. Also we got our fee back.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

I really liked him, but RB is the least of our worries atm.

I thought he was a liability.

[randomclaret2]

Sacha Tavolieri now suggesting Hountondji is likely to complete his move to Standard tomorrow but Delcroix has rejected a move there

[Newcastleclaret93]

That’s the thing, it is a gamble for a club like ours, even though it’s only 3m, hountonji is a gamble at 3m for any championship club

Tbh I think the market is that inflated that a 3m gamble on a player like Houtondji is worth the risk.

For every one you get wrong you could argue you get one right.

Koleosho another example, he cost 2m as a gamble but even though he’s been poor this season we will still make a good profit

[Judehamish]

BRING ON THE SHITHOUSERY I have actually read this week unbelievably on this forum. What is actually good about a whinging non-scoring forward player backing into defenders and then sitting on his arse waving his arms with a look of disbelief on his face?

We have signed Barnes and Sheffield United have Diaz. I know which I would prefer.


I’m also of the opinion that I pay to watch football not “shithousery”

[123EasyasBFC]

I disagree on your first point. What should we be signing players for? £500k each?

On your latter, the point was that players do t have to join and prove themselves Immediately. CJ is in his 3rd season.

No 3m is a risk from French league 2 especially when Tommy Conway was available for similar

[123EasyasBFC]

Tbh I think the market is that inflated that a 3m gamble on a player like Houtondji is worth the risk.

For every one you get wrong you could argue you get one right.

Koleosho another example, he cost 2m as a gamble but even though he’s been poor this season we will still make a good profit

Different taking a 2m risk on a player when you have premier league tv money though

[boatshed bill]

BRING ON THE SHITHOUSERY I have actually read this week unbelievably on this forum. What is actually good about a whinging non-scoring forward player backing into defenders and then sitting on his arse waving his arms with a look of disbelief on his face?

We have signed Barnes and Sheffield United have Diaz. I know which I would prefer.


I’m also of the opinion that I pay to watch football not “shithousery”

I have to agree with your dislike of something that more than borders on cheating. But i do think there was a bit more to Ashley Barnes' game than that.
Will his (re)signing be a success? On the field I have my doubts. However, if he is doing some striker coaching I can see the point of it.

[Staniola]

I really liked him, but RB is the least of our worries atm.

Any player who behaves like he did at Tottenham would be a retrograde step for us.

[123EasyasBFC]

I'm fairly sure that Hountondji was said to be one for the future right from the day we signed him, same as Agyei, Sambo and a few others.

Would be even stranger given the loss in money to spend 3m in a championship season on a striker for the future when you already have prospects like Mellon, Westley, masara and to a degree Richardson still at the club

[randomclaret2]

BRING ON THE SHITHOUSERY I have actually read this week unbelievably on this forum. What is actually good about a whinging non-scoring forward player backing into defenders and then sitting on his arse waving his arms with a look of disbelief on his face?

We have signed Barnes and Sheffield United have Diaz. I know which I would prefer.


I’m also of the opinion that I pay to watch football not “shithousery”

Barnes and Brereton Diaz have virtually idential goals per game ratios across their careers, with Barnes having played twice as many games as Brereton Diaz. Which one of them is the ' non-scoring forward player ' ?