Venky's are a disgrace

[Stonehouse]

Let’s see how many posts Hutch does on this forum about Burnley I can’t imagine they’ll be many more, obviously seeking sympathy for his beloved Rovers .

[Herts Clarets]

Hutch is also forgetting they got relegated when Walker was still running the club, Brian Kidd was manager

I remember it well. I watched their game v Man Utd in a West London pub with a mate from work who is a United fan, it was neck and neck with Arsenal for the Premier League title and Rovers has just lost at home to an already relegated Forest side. They needed 3 points to give them a chanvce of avoiding relegation. The final whistle blew at 0-0, United fans disappointed at dropping 2 points, Arsenal fans happy at United dropping 2 points and me dancing on a table, as it virtually condemned Rovers to relegation. I got a few funny looks until it was pointed out my allegiance and what I was celebrating.

And to the OP on this post, always find it is better to be quiet and assumed to be an idiot rather than opening one's mouth and removing all doubt. And when in a hole, stop digging. UTC

[Poulton-le-Claret]

They should be thankful to Venky's for ripping away their Premier League status? For having them in this state today? The only reason they are in the Championship and have found themselves stuck in it is Venky's. Some make the argument you have that 'without their money they would be in League One'. But why does nobody consider the following viewpoint:

"Without Venky's turning up Blackburn would still be a Premier League club today".

Look back to May 2010 and you'll recall that they were in no real danger of relegation from the Prem. They had Big Sam as manager and a few sellable assets like Hoillett, N'Zonzi, Martin Olsson, Kalinic and they were trying to sign the likes of Lewandowski. Are those the signs of a club that was inevitably going to be relegated? No, is the simple answer. They were relegated due to Venky's and have never recovered since, because of Venky's.

On the willing buyers point...four consortiums have approached Venky's to buy the club in the past 18 months. Two American, one Middle Eastern. All have been ignored. They flatly refuse to sell, to the bafflement of most football fans.

I would be properly embarrassed if I ever reacted to Burnley losing to Blackburn by crying on the Blackburn message board about how unfair things are. You will find no sympathy here and probably not on your own message board if they realise that you've been on here calling Dunny a tosser

At the end of the day, Jack Walker's money has deluded you lot into thinking you're a massive club, you're not.

[RammyClaret61]

unhappy Rovers fans, who are dismayed at seeing their Premier League club dismantled by these inept owners.

You lost any and all credibility with this sentence.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I wouldn't say I care 'so much' but, IMO, something is not right over there, which is why I have made this post. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for banter, laughs and rivalry. I've had my fill of belly laughs at the circus that went on there in the early days of Venky's. Steve Kean clearly winding that lot up in press conferences, that fat ******* Dunn munching a chicken drumstick in that hideous advert, Shebby Singh and the crackers he came out with...all of that was gold for a while.

However, there comes a point where it stops being funny and you start thinking 'hang on, something isn't right here'. Do you guys know what I mean? Like how it was funny for a while to see Utd get battered under Moyes etc but you then to start to think 'hold on, this ain't right'. Bastards appointing Owen Coyle was that moment for me. That looked like somebody taking the ****, especially when it has since transpired that one of the then Rovers Directors had Neil Warnock all set to come in as the new manager. Why would you then choose Coyle at the last minute, who effectively got them relegated? If you truly want promotion Neil Warnock is your man, especially back then.

I admit, I'll be among a minority. Delighted with yesterday, always want us to beat them and to be above them, but I can see there's something wrong with that club and it goes right to the top. Venky's. The plus side for us is that they will never, ever, finish above us for as long as Venky's remain there. I fully get the Venky praise and love in and people wanting them to stay forever from our fanbase. But no club deserves such owners and to see their club ruined like that.

I genuinely hope the Indian Government can force them out and that we can get back to proper matches and battles between the two. They currently resemble a 58 year old Mike Tyson.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... blackburn1

Just a reminder that Rovers were bankrolled even after Walker passed away and the trust wrote off nearly £100 million of debt

Crying about the venkys being poor owners is amusing when the Trust weren't much better

[Anonymous Claret]

I wouldn't say I care 'so much' but, IMO, something is not right over there, which is why I have made this post. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for banter, laughs and rivalry. I've had my fill of belly laughs at the circus that went on there in the early days of Venky's. Steve Kean clearly winding that lot up in press conferences, that fat ******* Dunn munching a chicken drumstick in that hideous advert, Shebby Singh and the crackers he came out with...all of that was gold for a while.

However, there comes a point where it stops being funny and you start thinking 'hang on, something isn't right here'. Do you guys know what I mean? Like how it was funny for a while to see Utd get battered under Moyes etc but you then to start to think 'hold on, this ain't right'. Bastards appointing Owen Coyle was that moment for me. That looked like somebody taking the ****, especially when it has since transpired that one of the then Rovers Directors had Neil Warnock all set to come in as the new manager. Why would you then choose Coyle at the last minute, who effectively got them relegated? If you truly want promotion Neil Warnock is your man, especially back then.

I admit, I'll be among a minority. Delighted with yesterday, always want us to beat them and to be above them, but I can see there's something wrong with that club and it goes right to the top. Venky's. The plus side for us is that they will never, ever, finish above us for as long as Venky's remain there. I fully get the Venky praise and love in and people wanting them to stay forever from our fanbase. But no club deserves such owners and to see their club ruined like that.

I genuinely hope the Indian Government can force them out and that we can get back to proper matches and battles between the two. They currently resemble a 58 year old Mike Tyson.

To say that you 'don't care so much' that is quite a lengthy post expressing your indifference.
I wouldn't fancy reading a post on a subject that you do care about.

[Hutchy]

Even if they didn’t get relegated when they did, they would have at some point. They spend 11 years in the PL when they went down. They’d be on 25 now. It’s very hard to image with how that league has changed that they wouldn’t have fallen at some point. They’re a solid Championship club under Venkys and they ain’t miles off going up. You’re talking maybe a forward with an extra 10 goals and they’ll be up. They’re probably one of the strongest Championship teams that hasn’t been in the PL for a while. That ain’t too bad considering the money what us and a few others around the play offs have received over the past few years.

Fair points and true, we can't say with certainty that they would have enjoyed 25 years straight as a Prem Club up until today. Clubs outside of the cartel are always a few poor decisions away from going down or being in a dogfight. However, it's fair to say that they would have had a good few years more in the top flight if Venky's hadn't turned up in 2010. They were very well ran under the leadership of John Williams and Tom Finn, they had some very talented players, Big Sam was in the dugout, the huge Sky TV deal was two years away from coming into play back in 2010. They were going along just fine as a mid table Premier League club. There's no reason why that couldn't have been maintained.

What happened next, in November 2010 and has continued over the last 15 years is all down to one set of people.

They aren't too far away from going up, you're right. That's what is ******* the Rovers fans off. They aren't asking for Jack Walker style spending, just that extra push required to seal promotion. These are billionaires we're talking about. What's £4m to them in return for a possible £150m? Bastards have been around the top 6 for the past three seasons, but each time their owners have ended any promotion hopes by failing to back the managers. Mowbray suffered that in his last season, Tomasson suffered that and now Eustace is facing similar.

I would argue that being a solid Championship club is not acceptable for a club that was a solid Premier League club for years before Venky's. If Venky's had any shame, they would realise that.

[dandeclaret]

Jesus - are you still trying to convince people you're a Burnley fan? There's going to be no sympathy for your nonsense here. Sport is cyclical, they had the money and the upper hand, Burnley currently do. Suck it up.

[Bosscat]

Fair points and true, we can't say with certainty that they would have enjoyed 25 years straight as a Prem Club up until today. Clubs outside of the cartel are always a few poor decisions away from going down or being in a dogfight. However, it's fair to say that they would have had a good few years more in the top flight if Venky's hadn't turned up in 2010. They were very well ran under the leadership of John Williams and Tom Finn, they had some very talented players, Big Sam was in the dugout, the huge Sky TV deal was two years away from coming into play back in 2010. They were going along just fine as a mid table Premier League club. There's no reason why that couldn't have been maintained.

What happened next, in November 2010 and has continued over the last 15 years is all down to one set of people.

They aren't too far away from going up, you're right. That's what is ******* the Rovers fans off. They aren't asking for Jack Walker style spending, just that extra push required to seal promotion. These are billionaires we're talking about. What's £4m to them in return for a possible £150m? Bastards have been around the top 6 for the past three seasons, but each time their owners have ended any promotion hopes by failing to back the managers. Mowbray suffered that in his last season, Tomasson suffered that and now Eustace is facing similar.

I would argue that being a solid Championship club is not acceptable for a club that was a solid Premier League club for years before Venky's. If Venky's had any shame, they would realise that.

**** em

[Hutchy]

Hutch is also forgetting they got relegated when Walker was still running the club, Brian Kidd was manager

They did and it shows that clubs like Blackburn aren't immune to relegation even under the best of owners.

The two relegations in 1999 and 2012 are not comparable though. I refer you back to one of my earlier posts where I said fans can accept and live with failure I.e relegation etc as long as the right intent/care was evident.

In 1998/99 Jack tried his best but ultimately made some poor decisions. He tried to make an innovative appointment in Kidd. He backed him with very decent funds. I remember they spent a fair amount on the likes of Dailly, Blake, Ward, Davies. None of those decisions worked out and the club went down. It wasn't for the want of trying though. Fans of any club can live with that.

The relegation in 2011/12 was an utter abomination and was totally avoidable. They appoint a ******* in Kean, they give his agent and friends free reign to run the club as they wish, they effectively force Williams and Finn out of the door, they ignore all fan protests, they ignore all poor results and form, they ignore the impending relegation and worst of all...they give Kean a new contract in the wake of fan protests. That was two fingers up to the fans and the protesters. As a result of this, 10,000 walk away for good in the summer 2012. They are not plastic or glory hunters for doing so. I wager the very same would happen at Turf in those exact same circumstances. We are talking about absolute bastards here in terms of that ownership. The total opposite of Jack and other owners that care.

Yes, it happend in 1999, but the two situations could not be any further apart.

[boyyanno]

Fair points and true, we can't say with certainty that they would have enjoyed 25 years straight as a Prem Club up until today. Clubs outside of the cartel are always a few poor decisions away from going down or being in a dogfight. However, it's fair to say that they would have had a good few years more in the top flight if Venky's hadn't turned up in 2010. They were very well ran under the leadership of John Williams and Tom Finn, they had some very talented players, Big Sam was in the dugout, the huge Sky TV deal was two years away from coming into play back in 2010. They were going along just fine as a mid table Premier League club. There's no reason why that couldn't have been maintained.

What happened next, in November 2010 and has continued over the last 15 years is all down to one set of people.

They aren't too far away from going up, you're right. That's what is ******* the Rovers fans off. They aren't asking for Jack Walker style spending, just that extra push required to seal promotion. These are billionaires we're talking about. What's £4m to them in return for a possible £150m? Bastards have been around the top 6 for the past three seasons, but each time their owners have ended any promotion hopes by failing to back the managers. Mowbray suffered that in his last season, Tomasson suffered that and now Eustace is facing similar.

I would argue that being a solid Championship club is not acceptable for a club that was a solid Premier League club for years before Venky's. If Venky's had any shame, they would realise that.

Blackburn were on the slide anyway, spent money they didn't have and the fan base were so entitled that they weren't happy with competing in the PL under big fat Sam, they thought they deserved better. Lauded it over us because they thought they'd be mega rich and sign Ronaldinho and now cry because it didn't work out.

Venkys might have accelerated the demise but you're the perfect example of be careful what you wish for. I like to think that while the ridiculous entitlement continues then so will the curse of the Venkys.

[evensteadiereddie]

Lovely, isn't it ?

[Hutchy]

I think you are somewhat off the mark Hutch. I agree the sacking of Allardyce was a poor decision and what followed was farcical but the problem Rover's faced was that Jack Walker's investment was enormous when he originally made it but he was not a wealthy man in PL terms by the time Allardyce left 20 years later.

For example, Shearer was bought for £3.6 million in 92/93 by 2010 when Allardyce left City spent over Eur70 million on Silva and Toure alone.

To be honest I think Rovers have a decent team and manager and their fans should STFU and support the team.

I agree that the finances at the top end of the Prem in 2010 with the likes of Chelsea, City and Utd were at ridiculous levels and Rovers nor Jack Walker could have competed with them at that point. Jack had passed away 10 years before Allardyce was sacked. Nevertheless, Rovers were doing just fine in 2010 as a mid table Prem side. The expectation at that time was never to challenge the top boys for the title, it was to play in the Prem, aim for mid table and hope to be in with a chance of a UEFA Cup spot in a good campaign. If you look through the 10 seasons since Jack's passing, that is precisely what Blackburn were and exactly what Venky's picked up. A mid table Premier League club.

The fact that they (Venky's) have turned the club into the joke we all see today is despicable from a general football fan point of view. It's comical and brilliant from this side of the fence, yeah, but from a general point of view it is disgraceful that these owners can be allowed to do this. There are many neutral football fans out there that agree with me and see Venky's for what they are.

[TheFamilyCat]

We are talking about absolute bastards here

First sensible thing you've posted.

[mickleoverclaret]

As a result of this, 10,000 walk away for good in the summer 2012.

Not for good, they came back on Saturday to watch us beat you again.

[IPAclaret]

Look hutchy whoever you are, I'll spell it out for you plain and simple....

Not one Claret, either on this forum or anywhere in the World gives one flying f@@k what happens to the bturds.

We are absolutely delighted they are sh@te and we hope it continues for decades. We could not care less. Not one iota.

All we need now is for the venkys to stop financially propping them up like jw did and they can disappear down the nearest drain with all the other effluent.

The most deluded, entitled, arrogant bunch of gob shi@tes that unfortunately we've had to listen to over the years and now the boots on the other foot (when we've done it the hard way without any outside investment) they don't fkn like it one bit.

Is that clear enough for you ??

UTC 15 years and counting.

[Bosscat]

I agree that the finances at the top end of the Prem in 2010 with the likes of Chelsea, City and Utd were at ridiculous levels and Rovers nor Jack Walker could have competed with them at that point. Jack had passed away 10 years before Allardyce was sacked. Nevertheless, Rovers were doing just fine in 2010 as a mid table Prem side. The expectation at that time was never to challenge the top boys for the title, it was to play in the Prem, aim for mid table and hope to be in with a chance of a UEFA Cup spot in a good campaign. If you look through the 10 seasons since Jack's passing, that is precisely what Blackburn were and exactly what Venky's picked up. A mid table Premier League club.

The fact that they (Venky's) have turned the club into the joke we all see today is despicable from a general football fan point of view. It's comical and brilliant from this side of the fence, yeah, but from a general point of view it is disgraceful that these owners can be allowed to do this. There are many neutral football fans out there that agree with me and see Venky's for what they are.

**** em

[Billyblah]

On the face of it they did treat Tony Mowbray in a fairly shocking manner. He was seemingly doing a solid 'under the radar' tyoe of job in slowly building a team with minimal funding.
They allowed his contract to run down with no communication with him. He packed his bag on his final day...and that was the end of that!

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Fair points and true, we can't say with certainty that they would have enjoyed 25 years straight as a Prem Club up until today. Clubs outside of the cartel are always a few poor decisions away from going down or being in a dogfight. However, it's fair to say that they would have had a good few years more in the top flight if Venky's hadn't turned up in 2010. They were very well ran under the leadership of John Williams and Tom Finn, they had some very talented players, Big Sam was in the dugout, the huge Sky TV deal was two years away from coming into play back in 2010. They were going along just fine as a mid table Premier League club. There's no reason why that couldn't have been maintained.

What happened next, in November 2010 and has continued over the last 15 years is all down to one set of people.

They aren't too far away from going up, you're right. That's what is ******* the Rovers fans off. They aren't asking for Jack Walker style spending, just that extra push required to seal promotion. These are billionaires we're talking about. What's £4m to them in return for a possible £150m? Bastards have been around the top 6 for the past three seasons, but each time their owners have ended any promotion hopes by failing to back the managers. Mowbray suffered that in his last season, Tomasson suffered that and now Eustace is facing similar.

I would argue that being a solid Championship club is not acceptable for a club that was a solid Premier League club for years before Venky's. If Venky's had any shame, they would realise that.

Rovers fans were convinced the Venkys would "return them to their rightful place at the top end of the PL"

Try harder

[Dyched]

There’s only Everton in the PL who haven’t been relegated along with the top 6.

Look the tables from when you finished mid table. Clubs that were pretty similar, that spent have never returned. Bolton, Wigan, Stoke, Birmingham.

Like I said earlier, you were always going to go down and tbh, you’re in a damn good position compared to those old PL teams you used to be alongside.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I agree that the finances at the top end of the Prem in 2010 with the likes of Chelsea, City and Utd were at ridiculous levels and Rovers nor Jack Walker could have competed with them at that point. Jack had passed away 10 years before Allardyce was sacked. Nevertheless, Rovers were doing just fine in 2010 as a mid table Prem side. The expectation at that time was never to challenge the top boys for the title, it was to play in the Prem, aim for mid table and hope to be in with a chance of a UEFA Cup spot in a good campaign. If you look through the 10 seasons since Jack's passing, that is precisely what Blackburn were and exactly what Venky's picked up. A mid table Premier League club.

The fact that they (Venky's) have turned the club into the joke we all see today is despicable from a general football fan point of view. It's comical and brilliant from this side of the fence, yeah, but from a general point of view it is disgraceful that these owners can be allowed to do this. There are many neutral football fans out there that agree with me and see Venky's for what they are.

League positions show they finished in the bottom half the table more than then top

Hardly a roaring success

[dandeclaret]

Not for good, they came back on Saturday to watch us beat you again.

Ooh first signs of the boycott returning? You could get Mattster to do some correlation statistical analysis on this to see if he can prove that the boycott only happens when they're doing ****, an when they get a sniff of success they all come pouring back in, and then when it disappears, the boycott's are back,.

[Dyched]

Fair points and true, we can't say with certainty that they would have enjoyed 25 years straight as a Prem Club up until today. Clubs outside of the cartel are always a few poor decisions away from going down or being in a dogfight. However, it's fair to say that they would have had a good few years more in the top flight if Venky's hadn't turned up in 2010. They were very well ran under the leadership of John Williams and Tom Finn, they had some very talented players, Big Sam was in the dugout, the huge Sky TV deal was two years away from coming into play back in 2010. They were going along just fine as a mid table Premier League club. There's no reason why that couldn't have been maintained.

What happened next, in November 2010 and has continued over the last 15 years is all down to one set of people.

They aren't too far away from going up, you're right. That's what is ******* the Rovers fans off. They aren't asking for Jack Walker style spending, just that extra push required to seal promotion. These are billionaires we're talking about. What's £4m to them in return for a possible £150m? Bastards have been around the top 6 for the past three seasons, but each time their owners have ended any promotion hopes by failing to back the managers. Mowbray suffered that in his last season, Tomasson suffered that and now Eustace is facing similar.

I would argue that being a solid Championship club is not acceptable for a club that was a solid Premier League club for years before Venky's. If Venky's had any shame, they would realise that.

From the 09/10 season you finished 10th, only Birmingham finished above you that have been relegated since. Only 3 below you remain in the PL and have had relegations and come back, Fulham, Wolves and West Ham. No matter what happened in the board room, you’d have dropped at some point.


Under Walker, after the title you dropped 6 places, year after another 6 to 13th. 2 years you were down.

[depechedingle]

I find it consistently amusing that Rovers fans pin everything on Venkys, when the very people who have sold them down the river are the beneficarys of Jack Walkers Estate and furthermore The Walker Trust.

Funny how they airbrush and deny simple truths.

I don't want them to go bust, I'd love them to suffer like we did in season 1986/1987 when they wished oblivion on us.

[Hutchy]

Is this guy serious?
Blackburn were in a false position for years. Money pouring in for players and a practically brand new stadium and training facilities. They didn't deserve any of it.
The venkys are idiots but they've only took them down to a more natural position. It's coincided with us building and fighting our way back up.
I enjoy every single victory and dread everytime we play them as its sickening to lose

Of course I'm serious.

A few genuine questions for you and others on this thread:

1) Were Chelsea in a 'false position' for years under Roman Abramovic up until he was kicked out? After all, they weren't a trophy winning machine or a major club in the 70s/80s and immediately prior to 2003.

2) Are the Chelsea fans wrong to be ****** off today with their current owners for lowering the standards that Roman Abramovic set over a 17 year period? Should they just accept what they are seeing now and 'shut up and support the team'?

If the answer to any of the above is no, then why the feck are Blackburn fans wrong to be complaining about Venky's and the damage they have done to the club since 2010?

3) Man Utd went 26 years without winning a League title from 1967-1993. They are currently at 11 years without winning the League. Are they back at their 'natural level'? After all, they went 26 years without one.

4) Are the Utd fans wrong to complain about a major drop in standards today, or was their club's reputation 'artificially inflated' by what one man (Fergie) did?

Again, if the answer is no, why are Blackburn fans wrong to be calling Venky's out?

Note: When I use those examples and compare, I am NOT saying that Blackburn fans are expecting a repeat of 1995 or to win multiple titles like Chelsea/Utd. I don't know one Rovers fan who demands that. They do, however, rightly, expect Premier League football based on the standards set under Jack, them being a founder member of the Premier League and being an established Prem club for many years after Jack's passing. Right up until these clowns bought them.

The 'false position' stuff is nonsense and you know it. Yes, they got a leg up from Jack but they then worked extremely hard to establish themselves as a Prem club over a 20 year period. You can't fluke 20 years in the top flight, just like Chelsea didn't fluke 17 years of being serial winners during which they became a big name. All that hard work at Blackburn has been thrown down the drain by Venky's, which is the basis of this thread.

Are Bournemouth still a '**** fourth tier side' because that's what they were back in the 70s/80s, or are they now a proper Premier league outfit? They have raised the standards for themselves, just like Blackburn did from 1990-2010. That is not "artificially inflating" or a "false position" in either case. If new owners came into Bournemouth tomorrow and 'did a Venky's' sending them to League One, it would be a travesty for their fans after the healthy and fantastic position their club was in. The 70s/80s and them being fourth tier? Irrelevant.

There is no reason why the Blackburn fans should just shut up and be grateful for Venky's when they have lived the last 15 years and witnessed the major decline. The people responsible for the decline are still in situ and are continuing to take the ****. They drive away manager after manager, they show no remorse for what they have done, they don't give a **** about promotion or the transfer windows. How do you expect their fans to react? It really should not be one rule for one set of fans and something totally different for the other set because those are Blackburn.

[DCWat]

Of course I'm serious.

A few genuine questions for you and others on this thread:

1) Were Chelsea in a 'false position' for years under Roman Abramovic up until he was kicked out? After all, they weren't a trophy winning machine or a major club in the 70s/80s and immediately prior to 2003.

2) Are the Chelsea fans wrong to be ****** off today with their current owners for lowering the standards that Roman Abramovic set over a 17 year period? Should they just accept what they are seeing now and 'shut up and support the team'?

If the answer to any of the above is no, then why the feck are Blackburn fans wrong to be complaining about Venky's and the damage they have done to the club since 2010?

3) Man Utd went 26 years without winning a League title from 1967-1993. They are currently at 11 years without winning the League. Are they back at their 'natural level'? After all, they went 26 years without one.

4) Are the Utd fans wrong to complain about a major drop in standards today, or was their club's reputation 'artificially inflated' by what one man (Fergie) did?

Again, if the answer is no, why are Blackburn fans wrong to be calling Venky's out?

Note: When I use those examples and compare, I am NOT saying that Blackburn fans are expecting a repeat of 1995 or to win multiple titles like Chelsea/Utd. I don't know one Rovers fan who demands that. They do, however, rightly, expect Premier League football based on the standards set under Jack, them being a founder member of the Premier League and being an established Prem club for many years after Jack's passing. Right up until these clowns bought them.

The 'false position' stuff is nonsense and you know it. Yes, they got a leg up from Jack but they then worked extremely hard to establish themselves as a Prem club over a 20 year period. You can't fluke 20 years in the top flight, just like Chelsea didn't fluke 17 years of being serial winners during which they became a big name. All that hard work at Blackburn has been thrown down the drain by Venky's, which is the basis of this thread.

Are Bournemouth still a '**** fourth tier side' because that's what they were back in the 70s/80s, or are they now a proper Premier league outfit? They have raised the standards for themselves, just like Blackburn did from 1990-2010. That is not "artificially inflating" or a "false position" in either case. If new owners came into Bournemouth tomorrow and 'did a Venky's' sending them to League One, it would be a travesty for their fans after the healthy and fantastic position their club was in. The 70s/80s and them being fourth tier? Irrelevant.

There is no reason why the Blackburn fans should just shut up and be grateful for Venky's when they have lived the last 15 years and witnessed the major decline. The people responsible for the decline are still in situ and are continuing to take the ****. They drive away manager after manager, they show no remorse for what they have done, they don't give a **** about promotion or the transfer windows. How do you expect their fans to react? It really should not be one rule for one set of fans and something totally different for the other set because those are Blackburn.

Give it a rest now, it’s tedious!

You sound just like one of the younger United fans who is not used to anything other than success.

Football is cyclical - you had your time in the sun, funded by a sugar daddy. Rovers are back down to around levels that they should be at as a club.

Suck it up and give us a break.

[Bosscat]

Of course I'm serious.

A few genuine questions for you and others on this thread:

1) Were Chelsea in a 'false position' for years under Roman Abramovic up until he was kicked out? After all, they weren't a trophy winning machine or a major club in the 70s/80s and immediately prior to 2003.

2) Are the Chelsea fans wrong to be ****** off today with their current owners for lowering the standards that Roman Abramovic set over a 17 year period? Should they just accept what they are seeing now and 'shut up and support the team'?

If the answer to any of the above is no, then why the feck are Blackburn fans wrong to be complaining about Venky's and the damage they have done to the club since 2010?

3) Man Utd went 26 years without winning a League title from 1967-1993. They are currently at 11 years without winning the League. Are they back at their 'natural level'? After all, they went 26 years without one.

4) Are the Utd fans wrong to complain about a major drop in standards today, or was their club's reputation 'artificially inflated' by what one man (Fergie) did?

Again, if the answer is no, why are Blackburn fans wrong to be calling Venky's out?

Note: When I use those examples and compare, I am NOT saying that Blackburn fans are expecting a repeat of 1995 or to win multiple titles like Chelsea/Utd. I don't know one Rovers fan who demands that. They do, however, rightly, expect Premier League football based on the standards set under Jack, them being a founder member of the Premier League and being an established Prem club for many years after Jack's passing. Right up until these clowns bought them.

The 'false position' stuff is nonsense and you know it. Yes, they got a leg up from Jack but they then worked extremely hard to establish themselves as a Prem club over a 20 year period. You can't fluke 20 years in the top flight, just like Chelsea didn't fluke 17 years of being serial winners during which they became a big name. All that hard work at Blackburn has been thrown down the drain by Venky's, which is the basis of this thread.

Are Bournemouth still a '**** fourth tier side' because that's what they were back in the 70s/80s, or are they now a proper Premier league outfit? They have raised the standards for themselves, just like Blackburn did from 1990-2010. That is not "artificially inflating" or a "false position" in either case. If new owners came into Bournemouth tomorrow and 'did a Venky's' sending them to League One, it would be a travesty for their fans after the healthy and fantastic position their club was in. The 70s/80s and them being fourth tier? Irrelevant.

There is no reason why the Blackburn fans should just shut up and be grateful for Venky's when they have lived the last 15 years and witnessed the major decline. The people responsible for the decline are still in situ and are continuing to take the ****. They drive away manager after manager, they show no remorse for what they have done, they don't give a **** about promotion or the transfer windows. How do you expect their fans to react? It really should not be one rule for one set of fans and something totally different for the other set because those are Blackburn.

You're getting boring ... We don't give a ****

[Hutchy]

I still have thoughts about Agent Venky's coming out at some time wearing Claret & Blue, making a statement about it being worth every penny, followed by the Clarets fans presenting a signed petition from tens of thousands, demanding a Venky's statue outside the Turf. Usually, I wake up around this time, and just smile quietly to myself, but secretly still wondering things like, they just can't be this bad for this length of time, can they!!

Honestly, if somebody was to tell me that Venky's were just a front and that the real owners of the club were diehard clarets who were having the biggest laugh they could and for as long as they could get away with...I would believe them. Some of the decisions this lot have made and continue to make are unbelievable.

They are the worst owners in English football and from this forum's point of view, they couldn't have picked a better club to own.

[Hutchy]

No problem, folks. I've made my point. Happy to leave it there.

See you around.

[helmclaret]

Hutchy did you go to St Mary’s College in Blackburn early 00’s?

[fidelcastro]

The worst attempt at catfishing I've ever seen.

[boyyanno]

Of course I'm serious.

A few genuine questions for you and others on this thread:

1) Were Chelsea in a 'false position' for years under Roman Abramovic up until he was kicked out? After all, they weren't a trophy winning machine or a major club in the 70s/80s and immediately prior to 2003.

2) Are the Chelsea fans wrong to be ****** off today with their current owners for lowering the standards that Roman Abramovic set over a 17 year period? Should they just accept what they are seeing now and 'shut up and support the team'?

If the answer to any of the above is no, then why the feck are Blackburn fans wrong to be complaining about Venky's and the damage they have done to the club since 2010?

3) Man Utd went 26 years without winning a League title from 1967-1993. They are currently at 11 years without winning the League. Are they back at their 'natural level'? After all, they went 26 years without one.

4) Are the Utd fans wrong to complain about a major drop in standards today, or was their club's reputation 'artificially inflated' by what one man (Fergie) did?

Again, if the answer is no, why are Blackburn fans wrong to be calling Venky's out?

Note: When I use those examples and compare, I am NOT saying that Blackburn fans are expecting a repeat of 1995 or to win multiple titles like Chelsea/Utd. I don't know one Rovers fan who demands that. They do, however, rightly, expect Premier League football based on the standards set under Jack, them being a founder member of the Premier League and being an established Prem club for many years after Jack's passing. Right up until these clowns bought them.

The 'false position' stuff is nonsense and you know it. Yes, they got a leg up from Jack but they then worked extremely hard to establish themselves as a Prem club over a 20 year period. You can't fluke 20 years in the top flight, just like Chelsea didn't fluke 17 years of being serial winners during which they became a big name. All that hard work at Blackburn has been thrown down the drain by Venky's, which is the basis of this thread.

Are Bournemouth still a '**** fourth tier side' because that's what they were back in the 70s/80s, or are they now a proper Premier league outfit? They have raised the standards for themselves, just like Blackburn did from 1990-2010. That is not "artificially inflating" or a "false position" in either case. If new owners came into Bournemouth tomorrow and 'did a Venky's' sending them to League One, it would be a travesty for their fans after the healthy and fantastic position their club was in. The 70s/80s and them being fourth tier? Irrelevant.

There is no reason why the Blackburn fans should just shut up and be grateful for Venky's when they have lived the last 15 years and witnessed the major decline. The people responsible for the decline are still in situ and are continuing to take the ****. They drive away manager after manager, they show no remorse for what they have done, they don't give a **** about promotion or the transfer windows. How do you expect their fans to react? It really should not be one rule for one set of fans and something totally different for the other set because those are Blackburn.

This contradicts everything you say. By your own admission you should now accept you are a tin pot championship club with the occasional big gate and highlight when Burnley come to town.

No point living in the past afterall.

10 more years added on to the Venkys curse.

[Bosscat]

No problem, folks. I've made my point. Happy to leave it there.

See you around.

Good riddance ...

[Colburn_Claret]

Since it's inception in 1992, 51 clubs have played in the Premier League.
Most have got there through graft, and the lack of beneficiary made it almost impossible to maintain.
What makes you think Bastards are more entitled to be in the Prem than any of the other 31 clubs who are no longer there.
You're a muppet, and deluded just like the rest of you horse fiddlers. But thanks for the entertainment.

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[BurnleyFC]

Venky’s > Hutchy.

[123EasyasBFC]

Honestly, if somebody was to tell me that Venky's were just a front and that the real owners of the club were diehard clarets who were having the biggest laugh they could and for as long as they could get away with...I would believe them. Some of the decisions this lot have made and continue to make are unbelievable.

They are the worst owners in English football and from this forum's point of view, they couldn't have picked a better club to own.

Your club wouldn’t wouldn’t be running now if it wasn’t for the Venkys, Venkys have lost over 200m pumping money into the club, plenty of people at that club made poor decisions, like paying likes of Danny Murphy and Dickson etuhu 50k a week in the championship

[Stonehouse]

Your club wouldn’t wouldn’t be running now if it wasn’t for the Venkys, Venkys have lost over 200m pumping money into the club, plenty of people at that club made poor decisions, like paying likes of Danny Murphy and Dickson etuhu 50k a week in the championship

Or the prolific Kevin Davies who scored 1 goal in 23 games who cost a club record £7 mill .

[Dyched]

The Venkys wrote off £20ish million debt when they bought the club, that after the previous owners sold Santa Cruz and Warnock. Measure had already taken place replacing them with less quality on less money.

Venys have pretty much saved them from being in a position like Bolton.

One decent forward who can grab 25 a season along side the current squad and play offs is a possibility. You could be in and would be in without Venkys in a lot worse place than that.

[123EasyasBFC]

Or the prolific Kevin Davies who scored 1 goal in 23 games who cost a club record £7 mill .

Didn’t they spend 8 on Diaz from Forest, similar fees for Gallagher and Rhodes

[Guppyspotter]

For a Burnley 'fan' you know an amazing amount of detail about another club's financial difficulties and the legal position in India.

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[Stonehouse]

Didn’t they spend 8 on Diaz from Forest, similar fees for Gallagher and Rhodes

[Hutchy]

They still are and always have been, a f@!#!#g disgrace.

Eustace is now in talks to become the new Derby manager. Shows what an awful setup they have under these ****, ******* owners that he wants to leave a club sat in 6th to join a club in the relegation zone.

They got lucky finding Tomasson and Eustace. The next one will be a desperate mug that takes them down. Venky's deserve relegation.

[randomclaret2]

They still are and always have been, a f@!#!#g disgrace.

Eustace is now in talks to become the new Derby manager. Shows what an awful setup they have under these ****, ******* owners that he wants to leave a club sat in 6th to join a club in the relegation zone.

They got lucky finding Tomasson and Eustace. The next one will be a desperate mug that takes them down. Venky's deserve relegation.

Fingers crossed ...

[IPAclaret]

And he's back folks, Burnleys weirdest 'fan' who seems to comment on / and have more knowledge regarding the bturds.

I'll say it again on behalf of Clarets everywhere, we don't give a fck what happensto the shadsworthchin dribblers. We remember well some bturd fans gloating when the venkys took over 'we've got billionaire owners / we're going to spend big money / let's all laugh at Burnley' etc etc.

We hope Eustace fcks off and the lower darwen shi-it pot gets flushed away.

Zero fcks / zero sympathy on here.

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[Goobs]

[jtv]

Nightmare scenario would be Dyche taking over, taking them to a playoff final against Burnley.......and winning!!!

[Dazzler]

Of course I'm serious.

A few genuine questions for you and others on this thread:

1) Were Chelsea in a 'false position' for years under Roman Abramovic up until he was kicked out? After all, they weren't a trophy winning machine or a major club in the 70s/80s and immediately prior to 2003.

2) Are the Chelsea fans wrong to be ****** off today with their current owners for lowering the standards that Roman Abramovic set over a 17 year period? Should they just accept what they are seeing now and 'shut up and support the team'?

If the answer to any of the above is no, then why the feck are Blackburn fans wrong to be complaining about Venky's and the damage they have done to the club since 2010?

3) Man Utd went 26 years without winning a League title from 1967-1993. They are currently at 11 years without winning the League. Are they back at their 'natural level'? After all, they went 26 years without one.

4) Are the Utd fans wrong to complain about a major drop in standards today, or was their club's reputation 'artificially inflated' by what one man (Fergie) did?

Again, if the answer is no, why are Blackburn fans wrong to be calling Venky's out?

Note: When I use those examples and compare, I am NOT saying that Blackburn fans are expecting a repeat of 1995 or to win multiple titles like Chelsea/Utd. I don't know one Rovers fan who demands that. They do, however, rightly, expect Premier League football based on the standards set under Jack, them being a founder member of the Premier League and being an established Prem club for many years after Jack's passing. Right up until these clowns bought them.

Before Rovers' first premiership season, the previous 44 seasons had been mostly spent outside the top-tier with only 8 of those being in the top flight.

Now shut the f**k up

[Buxtonclaret]

They still are and always have been, a f@!#!#g disgrace.

Eustace is now in talks to become the new Derby manager. Shows what an awful setup they have under these ****, ******* owners that he wants to leave a club sat in 6th to join a club in the relegation zone.

They got lucky finding Tomasson and Eustace. The next one will be a desperate mug that takes them down. Venky's deserve relegation.

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My new favourite poaster.