Dyche

[ClaretPete001]

Nothing irrational about it, he stayed well beyond his time with us and should have been sacked sooner.

I didnt like his football style, favouritism to aging workhorses, his ego (especially after he left us, wasn’t exactly complimentary)

Basically could see right through him. The irrational view is the people who treat him like a god. Yes he had a couple of good seasons with us but some also very bad ones.

I find his failures humorous as I know it will be hurting his ego and as a bonus the nuthuggers get wound up about it.

We came tenth in the PL in 2019/20 probably the 2nd best performance of any Burnley team since the 60s. After that the board stopped investing in players and the club was sold.

Prior to the ALK deal Sean Dyche and the previous owners Burnley was the best run club in the history of PL.

No other small club you can think of got into Europe with no external investment and had tens of millions money in the bank.

So, unless you can come up with some facts then your opinion is irrational.

[AshevilleNCClaret]

Dyche worked wonders here on a shoe string budget. While he did have faults as a manager, he did have great success here.
I feel like he's gotten the label of producing results with limited/no funds. The monies within the last few years have gotten insane, but he probably looks at burnley now and asks , "why did I not get these kinds of funds when I was manager?" . I know its a different owner, but we have certainly opened the checkbook for players.

[IanMcL]

More press gloom for Mr Dyche. Everton is the most toxic place for football.

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2025/01/06 ... in-update/

[Stonehouse]

We came tenth in the PL in 2019/20 probably the 2nd best performance of any Burnley team since the 60s. After that the board stopped investing in players and the club was sold.

Prior to the ALK deal Sean Dyche and the previous owners Burnley was the best run club in the history of PL.

No other small club you can think of got into Europe with no external investment and had tens of millions money in the bank.

So, unless you can come up with some facts then your opinion is irrational.

We had a 7th and a 9th in the 1970’s.

[ClaretPete001]

More press gloom for Mr Dyche. Everton is the most toxic place for football.

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2025/01/06 ... in-update/

I think he's a dead man walking and probably should go.

They've just played most of the top 6 so it's harsh on SD but once this level of momentum against the manager starts to develop then I think it can only get worse.

From the owners perspective they can now get someone in on a theoretically easier run of games. And from Sean Dyche's, I think most people in football will consider he did a decent job albeit he has re-enforced his reputation as someone who plays a more direct type of football (to put it politely).

[ClaretPete001]

We had a 7th and a 9th in the 1970’s.

Which season did we come 9th in?

[Ric_C]

Hmm if Dyche does get sacked, he'd be perfect for WBA (if he's interested that is)

[Stonehouse]

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Which season did we come 9th in?

[Stonehouse]

Which season did we come 9th in?

75 -76 according to that chart

[claretonthecoast1882]

75 -76 according to that chart

We got relegated in 75/76

[Bordeauxclaret]

You are looking at the wrong column.

[Gp8419]

Just watched the dyche press conference on sky sports news, the woman interviewer was shocking pushing him with bad questions basically hounding him. They don’t half push these managers out there jobs the media,he did well to keep his cool with her.

[ClaretPete001]

75 -76 according to that chart

As others have said you are reading the wrong column.

We got relegated in that year and Jimmy Adamson got sacked.

[Claret53]

The job of a manager is a hard one. The job of a manager not backed by decent funds is particularly hard.
Anyone who does not recognise that Sean Dyche did an exceptional job at Burnley demonstrates a significant lack of understanding of the realities of football.

[fidelcastro]

As others have said you are reading the wrong column.

We got relegated in that year and Jimmy Adamson got sacked.

I love it when people provide evidence... and it's wrong!

[warksclaret]

It seems the curtain could be coming down on Sean, and it must be unsettling to be openly hearing that WHU and Everton are both keen on appointing Potter. Potter is meant to be considering an offer to join WHU but only until the end of the season. He was offered the position in Summer,and also offered the managers role at Leicester, but wanted more time, and Leicester ran out of patience. You would have thought someone who has been out of work for two years would need the minimum of time to decide . Personally I think Potter is relatively unproven and I doubt whether he could get a better tune out of Everton than Sean has.

[jedi_master]

Sean came across to me in today’s press conference as a sanguine, respectful guy who knows his time is up there.

[Enola Gay]

Sky last night showed that Everton have scored just 26 open play goals since the start of last season (and one of them being Muric smashing the ball straight into DCL). Ignoring the 3 newly promoted teams, the next lowest was on 56.

I haven't checked this for myself but according to someone on Twitter, in the same timeframe we scored 29 from open play.

[Pearcey]

He’d be better off away from there. He’s steadied their decline but he has to suffer their completely deluded fans, who think they should be higher than they are. Awful club!

[fatboy47]

He’d be better off away from there.

He will be, very soon.

[1fatclaret]

Stonehouse has obviously been very busy this afternoon since posting his evidence……

[equinox]

Once upon a time a manager would walk away when they knew their company wasn't wanted, not now though, they don't care, they'll spin the same old crap at press conferences and literally sit it out until they're sacked and therfore compensated.

Dyche won't give a sh1t what the Everton fans think, water off a Ducks back, laughing all the way to the Gingerbank.

[equinox]

I haven't checked this for myself but according to someone on Twitter, in the same timeframe we scored 29 from open play.

We're a bigger club than Everton, then, real do!

[Nonayforever]

Sean came across to me in today’s press conference as a sanguine, respectful guy who knows his time is up there.

Probably right.
Don't know where he will go next or who Everton can offer the job and make sure they stay up.
The best scenario for Dyche would be to get sacked and then whoever gets Everton relegated. That way he will be seen as a good guy at the end of the season of which that is not in doubt.

[basil6345789]

On Telly this evening. Is growing some hair on his head. Only about a No.2/3 at this stage but looks much better than a Martian

[IanMcL]

Personally I think Potter is relatively unproven and I doubt whether he could get a better tune out of Everton than Sean has.

Potter plays one way and it makes time. Everton would be doomed.
If Mr D gets relieved if his duties, I hope they give it to Potter. We can wave to them in passing.

[Shaggy]

Dyche the failure… sacked at every job he’s had… yet some deluded people think he’s better than Rafa Benitez.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Yup, definitely irrational

[matttheclaret]

Dyche the failure… sacked at every job he’s had… yet some deluded people think he’s better than Rafa Benitez.

On what planet did he "fail" here?

Took over a skint Championship club going nowhere, achieved two promotions, one against all odds and one title winning campaign and then kept us in the PL on a shoestring for years, including two top half finishes and only really began to struggle when he stopped receiving any backing to improve the team.

If that's "failing", I think your expectations as a Burnley fan are the problem here, rather than the managerial abilities of Sean Dyche.

[Shaggy]

Yup, definitely irrational

The old duffer strikes again.

[Shaggy]

On what planet did he "fail" here?

Took over a skint Championship club going nowhere, achieved two promotions, one against all odds and one title winning campaign and then kept us in the PL on a shoestring for years, including two top half finishes and only really began to struggle when he stopped receiving any backing to improve the team.

If that's "failing", I think your expectations as a Burnley fan are the problem here, rather than the managerial abilities of Sean Dyche.

He got sacked as and was the cause of our relegation, I think that’s a fail. Also left an aging squad which needed to be completely overhauled.

He’s about to get sacked again… so another fail. The ego won’t like that

[claretonthecoast1882]

He got sacked as and was the cause of our relegation, I think that’s a fail. Also left an aging squad which needed to be completely overhauled.

He’s about to get sacked again… so another fail. The ego won’t like that

Have you decided what will fill the void in your life while Dyche is out of work ? Will it be back to Lewis Hamilton on the receiving end, at least with him it is staring everyone in the face what it is you don't like about him.

[Walt]

Everton were and still are a basket case. I'm sure the new owners will invest but it's not happening overnight.

Was always going to be an extremely difficult job for anyone. Everton fans have given him a lot of stick, unfairly in my opinion. He's done ok and I'm not sure what their fans were expecting after the mess they've made if it over several years before Dyche.

Pretty much guaranteed his time is up though it would seem. As for his future, the media have never championed him. They didn't give anywhere near as much credit as he should have received for the job he did here. Cant see him getting another PL job at the moment.

[DCWat]

He got sacked as and was the cause of our relegation, I think that’s a fail. Also left an aging squad which needed to be completely overhauled.

He’s about to get sacked again… so another fail. The ego won’t like that

You’re using a football manager getting the sack as a yardstick for success. A strange measure in an industry where being sacked is, barring a handful of exceptions, an inevitability.

You’re ignoring the success that he brought to the club, the promotions, the years of Premier League football, a brief foray into Europe, stabilising a club that was in financial peril, prioritising the development of a new training facility, to name but a few.

Yes, it eventually ran its course, but worth remembering that he was also hindered by the club limiting spending to aid the sale.

If you see what Dyche brought to Burnley as a failure, you might as well pack it in now because it ain’t gonna get better than that and certainly not for such a sustained period of time.

[Big Vinny K]

Dyche the failure… sacked at every job he’s had… yet some deluded people think he’s better than Rafa Benitez.

One of the dumbest comments I’ve ever seen on here. And that’s a pretty low bar.

[boyyanno]

I have a busy and fulfilled life unlike yourself who likes to come on here annoying people as you have nothing better to do.

You better make the most of what little time you have left

That's a really poor comment to be honest, hopefully gets you a ban.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I have a busy and fulfilled life unlike yourself who likes to come on here annoying people as you have nothing better to do.

You better make the most of what little time you have left

buckfast breakfast ?

Apologies for annoying you but sometimes stupid people posting stupid comments should be mocked

[martin_p]

Sky last night showed that Everton have scored just 26 open play goals since the start of last season (and one of them being Muric smashing the ball straight into DCL). Ignoring the 3 newly promoted teams, the next lowest was on 56.

Yet the same pundits laud Arsenal’s current effectiveness from corners. A goal is a goal, I don’t get the obsession with how they are scored.

[dsr]

The main argument I had about Dyche was his complete unwillingness to drop a badly performing Barnes at the time. He would stick with his favourites when we had better players sitting on the bench. I often wonder why, for instance, JBG was so frequently ‘injured’ under Dyche but was remarkably injury free once he’d gone. I don’t know and we never will but I think there was a problem there that was nothing to do with injuries. But that’s just a supposition.

JBG missed 156 days of football, injured, in the 2+ years after Dyche left. (And his last injury before that was having his appendix out. I'm not going to believe that was faked!)

[martin_p]

Dyche the failure… sacked at every job he’s had… yet some deluded people think he’s better than Rafa Benitez.

Well if sacking is your measure! Benitez has been sacked many more times than Dyche.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Yet the same pundits laud Arsenal’s current effectiveness from corners. A goal is a goal, I don’t get the obsession with how they are scored.

The overriding problem is not enough of them are being scored by Everton. By any means.

Only Sheff U last season and Southampton this season have scored less.

[Shaggy]

Well if sacking is your measure! Benitez has been sacked many more times than Dyche.

Benitez also has many more major trophies than Dyche… he’s a winner. Dyche is a defensive must not lose borebag

[houseboy]

Well if sacking is your measure! Benitez has been sacked many more times than Dyche.

To be fair his sacking from Watford was totally unjustified and although he got sacked from Burnley it was only because things had got a bit ‘stale’. We had some good years under Dyche and he will be fondly remembered. I did think it was time for him to go but he did a good job for us for a long while. I can’t comment on the situation at Everton but he does seem to be making the best of a bad job.

[Hapag Lloyd]

Benitez also has many more major trophies than Dyche… he’s a winner. Dyche is a defensive must not lose borebag

You’re the one that fetched Benitez into the conversation, I’ve never heard anyone claim that Dyche is a better manager than Benitez.

[ClaretTony]

He got sacked as and was the cause of our relegation, I think that’s a fail. Also left an aging squad which needed to be completely overhauled.

He’s about to get sacked again… so another fail. The ego won’t like that

Good grief, you have no idea if the circumstances do you and you seem to have forgotten he gave us six consecutive years in the Premier League.

[dsr]

Harry Potts was sacked twice by Burnley, and yet they named a street after him. Some people just have different ideas of what is success and what is failure. I suspect Shaggy is the only person on here who would think Potts was a failure.

[AlargeClaret]

He got sacked as and was the cause of our relegation, I think that’s a fail. Also left an aging squad which needed to be completely overhauled.

He’s about to get sacked again… so another fail. The ego won’t like that

Like Ben Mee, Pope, Dwight , Tarky , Collins ,Brownhill, Cornet , Weghorst etc . While I believe it was fine for Dyche to go , you reasoning and apparent hatred of Dyche ,come across like the rantings of a mad man .

[DCWat]

Gone!

I really hope that they go down now!!

[fidelcastro]

Gone!

I really hope that they go down now!!

Agreed.

They'll deserve it too.

[Papabendi]

seemed inevitable