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Moyes back to Toffees

Post by Guller Bull » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:28 pm

In talks.

Good move for both parties?

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Re: Moyes back to Toffees

Post by burnleycclaret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:30 pm

Well I'm sure he'll keep them up and then take them top 10 next season, so got to be good for both.

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Post by The Shire Claret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:30 pm

If I was an established manager - Everton would br the last place I would want to manage

Same if I was a player

I know some great Everton fans but they have more melts than most

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Post by Aclaret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:31 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:28 pm
In talks.

Good move for both parties?
Chewing it over ?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:32 pm

Everton could get Pep and spend 500 billion and their fans would still moan.

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Post by The Shire Claret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:34 pm

I’ll never forget a couple of seasons their Fans blocking players in the streets with bollards so they could given them playing and managerial advice ….

Don’t think Gordon returned after that

It was absolutely pathetic

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Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:39 pm

done, contract until 2027

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Post by 4:20 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:42 pm

I had a feeling he'd be their next manager

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Re: Moyes back to Toffees

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:42 pm

Hope they go down whoever gets the gig.

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Post by Dyched » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:44 pm

Moyes keeping them up and sending Man Utd down would be a laugh :lol:

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Post by beddie » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:46 pm

It’ll all end in tears.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:50 pm

Good move by Everton.

If they had gone for an expansive footballing manager with that squad, it would be a disaster.

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Post by The Shire Claret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:03 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:50 pm
Good move by Everton.

If they had gone for an expansive footballing manager with that squad, it would be a disaster.
Correct - but that wont be good enough for the best club in the world ….

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Post by dougcollins » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:04 pm

Don't get the Moyes love in.

I've no time for the man.

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Post by The Shire Claret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:05 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:04 pm
Don't get the Moyes love in.

I've no time for the man.
He did manage the most superior club in Lancashire remember

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Re: Moyes back to Toffees

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:12 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:05 pm
He did manage the most superior club in Lancashire remember
That's possibly part of some subconscious bias on my part.

I just don't like him. I was relieved when he didn't pole up at TM.
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Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:14 pm

Moyes is a busted flush why they sacked Sean is a puzzle Sean got dross playing well with maximum effort.Hopefully they go down

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Post by martin_p » Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:55 pm

It’ll end in tears. Moyes is a legend with Evertonians, I suspect he’s about to ruin his legacy.

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Post by fidelcastro » Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:57 pm

I think he'll keep them up, but I hope I'm wrong,

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:04 pm

moyes is a great manager, should have kept him at united, by now they would be top class.
if the money is around for the new venture at everton he will probably succeed.

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Post by Shaggy » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:29 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:14 pm
Moyes is a busted flush why they sacked Sean is a puzzle Sean got dross playing well with maximum effort.Hopefully they go down
How can you compare Moyes to Dyche? Apart from negative football, at least Moyes has actually won things. Dyche isn’t fit to keep his seat warm.

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Post by CoolClaret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:33 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:29 pm
How can you compare Moyes to Dyche? Apart from negative football, at least Moyes has actually won things. Dyche isn’t fit to keep his seat warm.
He couldn't get out of the Championship though, could he?

Dyche has done it twice - as has our current manager, Scott Parker.

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Post by FCBurnley » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:35 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:50 pm
Good move by Everton.

If they had gone for an expansive footballing manager with that squad, it would be a disaster.
Then just keep Dyche

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Post by rincon » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:42 pm

A fiver on us to win the league and everton to get relegated pays about £95 so I'm risking it tomorrow.
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:45 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:35 pm
Then just keep Dyche
Dyche hasn't much history of working with top players or recruiting them.
A big red flag for any new owners.

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Post by burnleycclaret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:46 pm

rincon wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:42 pm
A fiver on us to win the league and everton to get relegated pays about £95 so I'm risking it tomorrow.
A wise decision. If the bet was 1p.

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Post by ClaretPete001 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:58 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:45 pm
Dyche hasn't much history of working with top players or recruiting them.
A big red flag for any new owners.
Ancelloti spent half a billion and signed some top players and achieved 12th place, which is what Dyche would have done had it not been for the points deduction. Lampard has worked with top players and he would have took them down.

Moyes is a wise decision but from what I've seen he's not that popular with Evertonians despite being just about the only manager to deliver over a period since Howard Kendall.

Wise appointment but given Moyes got sacked by West Ham because the fans hated him it's a bit frying pan into the frying pan really. Mind you West Ham have just sacked the manager who took over from him so.....!

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Post by ClaretPete001 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:04 am

'Ancelloti spent half a billion' that should probably read benefited from.....

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:46 am

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:58 pm
Ancelloti spent half a billion and signed some top players and achieved 12th place, which is what Dyche would have done had it not been for the points deduction. Lampard has worked with top players and he would have took them down.

Moyes is a wise decision but from what I've seen he's not that popular with Evertonians despite being just about the only manager to deliver over a period since Howard Kendall.

Wise appointment but given Moyes got sacked by West Ham because the fans hated him it's a bit frying pan into the frying pan really. Mind you West Ham have just sacked the manager who took over from him so.....!
“He’s not popular with evertonians” now that’s a surprise.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:55 am

Moyes isn't popular with a few Everton fans because he left them for Man U. The same happened with Rooney.

A bit like some of our fans with Coyle when he left.

Dyche would prefer an experienced Ashley Young/Peter Crouch/Jon Walters/A Lennon over a foreign up and coming player who will sell more shirts.

It's not what new owners with money to spend want to hear.

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Post by Caballo » Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:56 am

Was the last appointment the lads at work wanted, actually second to last, Rooney was least favoured.

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Post by Pearcey » Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:05 am

Moyes is a busted flush? Recent European winner with a smaller club! He’s a top manager.

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Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:40 am

Best manager available, he will keep them up

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Post by Shaggy » Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:42 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:33 pm
He couldn't get out of the Championship though, could he?

Dyche has done it twice - as has our current manager, Scott Parker.
Really is that the best you can come
Up with?

He didn’t inherit a team with parachute payments did he?

Moyes or Dyche? It’s not even a fair question as Moyes is far superior in every department.

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Post by ClaretPete001 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:12 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:55 am
Moyes isn't popular with a few Everton fans because he left them for Man U. The same happened with Rooney.

A bit like some of our fans with Coyle when he left.

Dyche would prefer an experienced Ashley Young/Peter Crouch/Jon Walters/A Lennon over a foreign up and coming player who will sell more shirts.

It's not what new owners with money to spend want to hear.
I actually don't think that's true. Evertonians aren't fond of Moyes because they don't see him as someone who can deliver progress. I think the video be;ow is a fair representation of the Everton fanbase by someone who is trying to represent the fanbase.

There is a mention of the recently departed Milan manager and an acceptance that Moyes is a pragmatic choice but there is concern over the length of the contract. My general feeling is that Evertonians don't think Moyes is good enough...!

Even the Sky presenter picks up on it. It's not me saying it....!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFK-NnHm5s4

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:19 am

Dyche will always be a legend to Burnley fans for what he did for us but I reckon pretty much any non Burnley fan would agree that Moyes is a step up from Dyche and I have to admit the would be right.

Moyes will probably only last 18 months but that will be enough time to take them from a bottom 6 side to a mid table side and lay the foundations for a top class manager like Howe or Nunez to come and use the money to get them challenging again for top 4

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Post by Culmclaret » Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:44 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:19 am
Dyche will always be a legend to Burnley fans for what he did for us but I reckon pretty much any non Burnley fan would agree that Moyes is a step up from Dyche and I have to admit the would be right.

Moyes will probably only last 18 months but that will be enough time to take them from a bottom 6 side to a mid table side and lay the foundations for a top class manager like Howe or Nunez to come and use the money to get them challenging again for top 4
I think any non Burnley fan would admit that 7 seasons in the prem with Burnley and getting us into Europe was a remarkable managerial achievement by any standards

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Post by Staniola » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:05 am

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:42 am
Really is that the best you can come
Up with?

He didn’t inherit a team with parachute payments did he?

Moyes or Dyche? It’s not even a fair question as Moyes is far superior in every department.
I can’t remember how Dyche had parachute payments in 2013/14? Can you enlighten me?

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Post by Roosterbooster » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:14 am

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:12 am
Evertonians aren't fond of Moyes because they don't see him as someone who can deliver progress
I dont think they need progress this season
Just to stay 16th and not get relegated would be a reasonable goal given their squad and investment potential

And it's also absolutely essential financially for the club apparently that they stay up with the new stadium

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:21 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:12 am
I actually don't think that's true. Evertonians aren't fond of Moyes because they don't see him as someone who can deliver progress. I think the video be;ow is a fair representation of the Everton fanbase by someone who is trying to represent the fanbase.

There is a mention of the recently departed Milan manager and an acceptance that Moyes is a pragmatic choice but there is concern over the length of the contract. My general feeling is that Evertonians don't think Moyes is good enough...!

Even the Sky presenter picks up on it. It's not me saying it....!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFK-NnHm5s4
It's a big fanbase with all different opinions. My dad is a ST holder at Everton and I'm friends with a lot of his match going friends on social media.

I just pick up on what they say.

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