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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:08 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:55 pm
What’s the rumoured price they are looking for mate?
One of my best mates is a Plymouth fan, he reckons they turned down 12 from Lazio in the summer and now their needs are more because of their position it will be between 12-15. Similar thoughts on their forums from what I can see. That's way over priced for someone who cost them 1 million and has had ONE good year. Like I said though, I'm no football scout.

On another note, I remind my mate about the play-off win and sending them down quite regularly :D
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:12 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:51 pm
Whittaker is left footed and mainly plays from the right but can operate centrally if needed. We know that Parker likes Anthony on the left (although he’s been very good on the right) and Koleosho has struggled to adapt to lower blocks.

Bringing him in would give the team that balance of both wingers being able to cut in on to their stronger foot, take some pressure off Koleosho who is still extremely inexperienced, and offer us more goal threat.

I do think this would signal the exit of possibly both Redmond and Tresor. Giving us options out wide of :

Anthony
Koleosho
Whittaker
Sarmiento
Benson (injury permitting)
Lots on this board saying Foster is better suited to coming in off the wing......we can't play them all, and an overbloated squad is an unhappy one.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by DCWat » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:12 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:08 pm
One of my best mates is a Plymouth fan, he reckons they turned down 12 from Lazio in the summer and now their needs are more because of their position it will be between 12-15. Similar thoughts on their forums from what I can see. That's way over priced for someone who cost them 1 million and has had ONE good year. Like I said though, I'm no football scout.

On another note, I remind my mate about the play-off win and sending them down quite regularly :D
From the bit I’ve read on their forum, they seem to be suggesting more like the 7 to 10 million mark (not that they’ll have any insight, just as we wouldn’t).

12 to 15 and I’d definitely be running a mile, in fact I’d be amazed if we would go to such a figure, even if we could, which I’m not convinced is the case, without sales.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:12 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:04 pm
Interesting that even though Parker has the title ‘head coach’ he’s fully in charge of transfer decisions, 3 players signed before he was appointed sambo, Pires and hountondji fully out the picture
Pires played the full 120 minutes yesterday

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:17 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:12 pm
From the bit I’ve read on their forum, they seem to be suggesting more like the 7 to 10 million mark (not that they’ll have any insight, just as we wouldn’t).

12 to 15 and I’d definitely be running a mile, in fact I’d be amazed if we would go to such a figure, even if we could, which I’m not convinced is the case, without sales.
Contract runs until 2027, I wouldn't go more than 8 + 2 if we get promoted and at that I would say he presents a risk.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:21 pm

whatever happens it'll be undisclosed anyway so I'll just tell myself we got him for 1.7 :D
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:26 pm

Surprised about the Manning one. Not particularly inspiring or likely I wouldn’t have thought.

Whittaker seems a bit lightweight to me too. Has a shot on him but a risk to commit big money, I would say.

Feels like these two are true though, given the sources.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:36 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:12 pm
Pires played the full 120 minutes yesterday
The point was signing Pires would mean he is out the picture along with sambo and hountonji who are already out

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:57 pm

I shouted loud for Whittaker from early last season but wouldn’t go above £10m.
I don’t think the club would either. There would be little chance of future profit.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:01 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:57 pm
I shouted loud for Whittaker from early last season but wouldn’t go above £10m.
I don’t think the club would either. There would be little chance of future profit.
I've no idea what the 'transfer strategy' is now - the buy for profit seems to have been mostly abandoned

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 6:36 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:01 am
I've no idea what the 'transfer strategy' is now - the buy for profit seems to have been mostly abandoned
Certainly the signings of Barnes, Egan and rumour of Shelvey would suggest that

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by morninbob » Mon Jan 13, 2025 6:44 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:12 pm
Pires played the full 120 minutes yesterday
We made 11 changes.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by agreenwood » Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:01 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:01 am
I've no idea what the 'transfer strategy' is now - the buy for profit seems to have been mostly abandoned
I’d imagine the strategy is to give Parker what he thinks he needs to get us promoted.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by BigGaz » Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:08 am

Perhaps clutching at straws as I do hope for a redemption arc but Magic sees himself as a CAM.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Clive 1960 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:13 am

i think this buy young and sell for profit probably was Kompanys idea because doesn't he get a slice of transfer from is company...

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:15 am

Whittaker still fits into the model, if you bought for 10m and he had 2 good seasons there’s no reason at 26 you couldn’t sell him for 20m

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:06 am

I wonder if Obafemi staying at Plymouth permanently could be part of any deal for Whittaker.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Blyclaret » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:16 am

Poulton-le-Claret wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:06 am
I wonder if Obafemi staying at Plymouth permanently could be part of any deal for Whittaker.
I forgot about him. Another one of Kompanys mistakes

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:18 am

We have no bargaining chip with Obafemi really, he's out of contract in the summer, he's worth about 14p

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:22 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:18 am
We have no bargaining chip with Obafemi really, he's out of contract in the summer, he's worth about 14p
That is annoying, I thought he had another year. Signing him was £3/4m down the drain then.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Walt » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:27 am

The 12m benchmark from Lazio the Plymouth fans are using isn't valid for me.

The reason being his performances, they have criticised his performances yet still expect a value to have been retained. A lot of our fans have done similar with Koleosho (I've been critical of him at times) and the 20m previously quoted from Wolves probably isn't the figure we'd be looking at currently. Granted Koleosho is younger so still has potential to perhaps add to his value.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by jedi_master » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:41 am

From what I have read of Plymouth fans opinions on Obafemi, I think they'd be asking for more money from us for them to have to take him permanently.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by bfcjg » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:50 am

Hopefully the Whittaker link has some substance, Obafemi was on of Kompany's weirdest signings.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:53 am

Don't forget Swansea turned down bids from us in the region of 10 million if reports were accurate. I can see him at somewhere like Wrexham next season

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by warksclaret » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:13 am

bfcjg wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:50 am
Hopefully the Whittaker link has some substance, Obafemi was on of Kompany's weirdest signings.
I was talking to some of our fans at Reading re Obefemi, and we think he was a recommendation from Bellamy, who knew a lot of the players playing in South Wales. If I recall he was also very keen on a young prospect at Cardiff who he rated highly (but wasn't even in the Cardiff team), but we did not go ahead

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by KRBFC » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:13 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:05 pm
Really strange one got to imagine Parker fancies him,

Not sure he’s what we need at all but I guess we have to trust the system
No idea why you keep saying he’s not what we need, how do we not need a goal scoring threat from wide?
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by jedi_master » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:18 am

I am confused how people deem Whittaker to not be a continuation of our buy to sell strategy. We signed Scott Twine at 23 presumably under that mandate from League 1. Whittaker turned 24 literally 6 days ago - he's still very young with large upside potential if we develop him.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:20 am

Only takes one good season to drive a valuation through the roof. It’s happened with him at Plymouth, no reason it can’t happen with him at Burnley .

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by kentonclaret » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:21 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:26 pm
Surprised about the Manning one. Not particularly inspiring or likely I wouldn’t have thought.

Whittaker seems a bit lightweight to me too. Has a shot on him but a risk to commit big money, I would say.

Feels like these two are true though, given the sources.
Not only a bit lightweight but very one dimensional also. I recall pundits reviewing his goal against Brentford remarking “everybody in the Championship knows not to let Whittaker get the ball on to his left foot” but he was allowed to run some distance without challenge. Seemed as though Brentford didn’t do their homework.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by boyyanno » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:24 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:01 am
I've no idea what the 'transfer strategy' is now - the buy for profit seems to have been mostly abandoned
The transfer strategy has shifted but i don't think it's fair to say we are abandoning the buy for profit tactic.

This season it looks like we're going to have signed some of the better young talent in the division: Flemming and possibly Whittaker.

We've already taken Humphries after a successful spell at this level, Anthony who is still young and played at this level before and Hannibal similar.

Yes we have added Barnes, Egan and possibly Shelvey, but we also have one of the youngest squads in the division so it's no big surprise we've added experiance after a lot of it left.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by TsarBomba » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:27 am

KRBFC wrote:
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No idea why you keep saying he’s not what we need, how do we not need a goal scoring threat from wide?
Against Bristol City, Whittaker provided a nice assist by driving to the byline and dinking a cross to the back post.

Against Brentford, he’s cut inside, beaten 2/3 players and drilled a shot into the corner.

Bizarre that people are saying he’s not what we need when he is exactly what we have been missing from our wide players- end product and the ability to mix it up.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Murger » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:41 am

Weird how people don’t think we need a wide man with better end product than Koleosho.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:49 am

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:13 am
No idea why you keep saying he’s not what we need, how do we not need a goal scoring threat from wide?
Based on what I have seen this season that’s exactly what he is not

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by billyhamilton82 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:57 am

TsarBomba wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:27 am
Against Bristol City, Whittaker provided a nice assist by driving to the byline and dinking a cross to the back post.

Against Brentford, he’s cut inside, beaten 2/3 players and drilled a shot into the corner.

Bizarre that people are saying he’s not what we need when he is exactly what we have been missing from our wide players- end product and the ability to mix it up.
There is no doubting Whittaker's ability, the only confusing aspect is the return of Tresor.

I anticipated that Whittaker was the Tresor replacement and we would be back in for him in January.

Sell Tresor, and with the money buy Whittaker, but then he played on Saturday.

If we have both of them I'm not sure where that leaves Koleosho, but brilliant options to have at this level.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by BB4Claret » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:57 am

Does anyone know if we have an option on Flemming?

I’d have thought that was far more important than bringing in Whitaker from Plymouth.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by billyhamilton82 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:04 am

BB4Claret wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:57 am
Does anyone know if we have an option on Flemming?
Yes.

Strange that some on here were asking the same question a few weeks ago in order to send him back.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by BigGaz » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:06 am

Walt wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:27 am
The 12m benchmark from Lazio the Plymouth fans are using isn't valid for me.

The reason being his performances, they have criticised his performances yet still expect a value to have been retained. A lot of our fans have done similar with Koleosho (I've been critical of him at times) and the 20m previously quoted from Wolves probably isn't the figure we'd be looking at currently. Granted Koleosho is younger so still has potential to perhaps add to his value.
This is club agnostic as you say. Schrödingers player. Simultaneously garbage but we'll still be furiously tip tapping away on our keyboards that anything less than 30m for Trafford, Foster, Koleosho and whoever else would be having our pants down and going in dry.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by martin_p » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:20 am

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:57 am
There is no doubting Whittaker's ability, the only confusing aspect is the return of Tresor.

I anticipated that Whittaker was the Tresor replacement and we would be back in for him in January.

Sell Tresor, and with the money buy Whittaker, but then he played on Saturday.

If we have both of them I'm not sure where that leaves Koleosho, but brilliant options to have at this level.
I think Tresor got game time to make him more saleable to be honest.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:25 am

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:57 am
There is no doubting Whittaker's ability, the only confusing aspect is the return of Tresor.

I anticipated that Whittaker was the Tresor replacement and we would be back in for him in January.

Sell Tresor, and with the money buy Whittaker, but then he played on Saturday.

If we have both of them I'm not sure where that leaves Koleosho, but brilliant options to have at this level.
Or we are open to letting Redmond leave, benson isn’t fit so right now our wingers are Anthony, koleosho and Sarmiento (he is better central) now with Tresor. All favour playing from the left so I think Whittaker would still be needed even if we didn’t sell anyone
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:27 am

If someone else wants a 10min trier then Magic Mike's your man.He offered little after a brief cameo and even had his hands on his knees puffing like a Sunday league pub player at on stage

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Row x » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:31 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:27 am
If someone else wants a 10min trier then Magic Mike's your man.He offered little after a brief cameo and even had his hands on his knees puffing like a Sunday league pub player at on stage
Parker has said that Tresor has been really ill, so let's cut him some slack fitness wise

In that brief cameo he was involved in 2 goals which won the game. I'd take several repeats of that.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Big Vinny K » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:37 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:27 am
If someone else wants a 10min trier then Magic Mike's your man.He offered little after a brief cameo and even had his hands on his knees puffing like a Sunday league pub player at on stage
You really do talk some utter sh-ite sometimes.
You have no idea how seriousness his illness was.

10 minute trier ? You should try and stop talking shite for 10 minutes.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Walt » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:44 am

BigGaz wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:06 am
This is club agnostic as you say. Schrödingers player. Simultaneously garbage but we'll still be furiously tip tapping away on our keyboards that anything less than 30m for Trafford, Foster, Koleosho and whoever else would be having our pants down and going in dry.
Absolutely for Trafford we should be. If someone offered 10 for Foster I'd sell him.

I wouldn't sell Koleosho at this point, unless we got a ridiculous offer which seems unlikely at this stage.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by BigGaz » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:46 am

If Magic mike can come in and provide an assist and a significant contribution to 2 goals every 45 mins then I'll be more than happy for him to be blowing and having his hands on his knees.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Holtyclaret » Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:03 am

Clive 1960 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:13 am
i think this buy young and sell for profit probably was Kompanys idea because doesn't he get a slice of transfer from is company...
No
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Row x » Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:14 am

Walt wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:44 am
Absolutely for Trafford we should be. If someone offered 10 for Foster I'd sell him.

I wouldn't sell Koleosho at this point, unless we got a ridiculous offer which seems unlikely at this stage.
Who do you replace foster with?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Walt » Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:31 am

Row x wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:14 am
Who do you replace foster with?
Cant say I'd thought about it in that much depth in terms of a replacement signing.

He's inconsistent, injured a lot and not a striker in this system. I agree with the views he's better suited facing goal running with the ball, so probably from the left. I doubt Parker is dropping Anthony and we're bidding for Whittaker, who you'd imagine would be 1st choice on the right.

Benson coming back, also unreliable though. Koleosho as a sub and it seems given the quotes from Parker Tresor was ill and he's hopeful of including him on Friday. Whether he stays who knows. We also have Ramsey not too far away from the video posted last week, although he's going to be slow progress.

Sarmiento too, so we've plenty of options in forward areas. Hannibal also produced his best football when he came from the left.

Moot points like as I doubt we're selling him, just my opinion. He's not critical to our success given what's he's produced virtually the whole time he's been here.

He played well on Saturday, albeit against weaker opposition. Can he do it over a longer spell, that remains to be seen.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by KRBFC » Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:55 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:49 am
Based on what I have seen this season that’s exactly what he is not
So you’ve only seen him this season? he also got 3 goals in 18 league games, how many does our other wide options have?

Only a new watcher would assume playing for Plymouth and Burnley is the same thing, completely ignoring league positions is the dumbest thing.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Stonehouse » Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:01 pm

Walt wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:44 am
Absolutely for Trafford we should be. If someone offered 10 for Foster I'd sell him.

I wouldn't sell Koleosho at this point, unless we got a ridiculous offer which seems unlikely at this stage.
Foster probably did more positive things on Saturday than Koleosho has done for most of the season ,probably the only good thing he’s done was scoring against DL’s when he’d no one to beat and could show his speed otherwise he’s very unproductive with the ball ,I don’t dislike him but I think loaning him out to a mid table championship team that aren’t seen by others as being a major threat so don’t play a low block against them would give him a bit more room to play as an out and out winger and restore his confidence he’s similar how Dyche used to say about McNeil and never seems to play with a smile on his face.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by KRBFC » Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:07 pm

Row x wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:14 am
Who do you replace foster with?
There’s a few better forwards at this level than Foster despite some insane posters claiming he was the best in the division, think even those posters have realised how laughable that sounds.

Flemming Piroe Adebayo Morris Sargent Gnonto Cannon Wright Isidor to name a few

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