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Re: Dyche

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:40 pm

Sean Dyche is a good manager, he proved himself at Turf Moor.
Everton must have convinced him it was a move in the right direction, presumably the cash helped, that said the recent history shows they were colossal nutjobs, as are many of their supporters.
the fancy dan managers with millions at their disposal never had to face the shambolic nonsense Dyche has had to deal with. I hope he gets a decent club sometime soon. I realise they are massively overpaid compared to us mere mortals, but credit where its due. He is a clever bloke.
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Re: Dyche

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:10 pm

For the last 2 Premier League seasons under Dyche Burnley found themselves as 1 of the 3 lowest scoring teams and as a result were in a battle to avoid the drop. This season Everton are 1 of the 3 lowest scoring teams and find themselves in a relegation scrap.
Listening to Jamie Carragher on Monday night on Sky he concluded that Dyche’s inability to set up Everton to attack and score enough goals would be what brought about his departure.

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Re: Dyche

Post by COBBLE » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:39 pm

For what it's worth the reason the Royal Dyche was so named was because of what he had done for the club and the town. Nothing has changed. I was glad to see him go without placing all of the blame on him. I would really love to see him prove his ability and tactics with a group like where Defoe, Brady before his injury, Cork etc, took us to Europe. Then we will finally know.
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Re: Dyche

Post by Clive 1960 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:42 pm

Dyche did unbelievable job at Burnley and will be up there with the best that have managed our club ...
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Re: Dyche

Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:55 pm

It had been coming. I think it will be Everton's loss because they'll have to find somebody better & more importantly back the new manager. As with most things that will come over time whether it's regretted or not. Everton have a long history making bad decisions probably fuelled by some of their fans who never seem happy with anything or anyone.

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Re: Dyche

Post by oswyclaret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:27 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:41 pm
I actually think Moyes is one of the few who would still keep them up.

Not even Viagra could keep them up imho!

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Re: Dyche

Post by theduke » Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:49 am

IanMcL wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:37 pm
If I was an Ipswich and Wolves fan, I would have a spring in my step now.

Everton for the drop.
Everton won 3 out of 19 games. Why are people acting like Dyche was a certainty to keep them up?

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Re: Dyche

Post by Shaggy » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:12 am

theduke wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:49 am
Everton won 3 out of 19 games. Why are people acting like Dyche was a certainty to keep them up?
Because they are deluded and have some weird emotional attachment to him.

Step back and the bigger picture becomes much clearer

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Re: Dyche

Post by taio » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:21 am

Shaggy wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:12 am
Because they are deluded and have some weird emotional attachment to him.

Step back and the bigger picture becomes much clearer
I doubt many on here give a toss whether Everton stay up, with or without Dyche. I want them to get relegated and did so with Dyche in charge. I suppose those who think he would've kept them up are basing that on the fact that he has done in previous seasons and they are currently just out of the relegation zone. So not unreasonable to believe he would have kept them up again. Dyche did an outstanding job here. What's delusional is anyone not sufficiently recognising that.
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Re: Dyche

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:26 am

Dyche brilliant manager but Everton absolutely the wrong club, under their circumstances with the ownership and fans he was never going to last. I think a lot of teams would struggle to get points against Arsenal Chelsea and Man City playing them in a row.

Does feel like dyche would have to wait for another prem club to be struggling again or maybe a team relegated from the premier league who doesn’t start their championship season well

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Re: Dyche

Post by Tall Paul » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:29 am

Everton aren't going to be relegated, SD or no SD.

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Re: Dyche

Post by rosswallacefreekick » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:49 am

Shaggy wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:12 am
Because they are deluded and have some weird emotional attachment to him.

Step back and the bigger picture becomes much clearer
The bigger picture is that McNeil is injured, the squad is not the best, and he is on an atypical bad run - it’s more likely that they’d return to a norm soon.

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Re: Dyche

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:03 am

If it is Moyes who takes over, lets hope their whiny fan base enjoy his free flowing football.

They would find football a lot easier if they realised in isn't the mid 80s anymore and they are irrelevant when it comes to winning things.

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Re: Dyche

Post by theduke » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:06 am

rosswallacefreekick wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:49 am
The bigger picture is that McNeil is injured, the squad is not the best, and he is on an atypical bad run - it’s more likely that they’d return to a norm soon.
No evidence of that this time. Not a single player has come out on social media have they this time? The players wanted him out and by the sounds of it Dyche admitted he wasn't up to the job.

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Re: Dyche

Post by 4:20 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:06 am

Papabendi wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:52 pm
Sherpa Van?
EFL Trophy.

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Re: Dyche

Post by theduke » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:07 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:03 am
If it is Moyes who takes over, lets hope their whiny fan base enjoy his free flowing football.

They would find football a lot easier if they realised in isn't the mid 80s anymore and they are irrelevant when it comes to winning things.
I know this seems really hard for ultra pro Dyche people to understand but Everton fans don't expect to win things currently or even play free flowing football.

What they don't accept is a team not scoring a goal at goodison from open play since October and they dont acvcept a team not even attempting to score a goal

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Re: Dyche

Post by Papabendi » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:10 am

4:20 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:06 am
EFL Trophy.
So, did he play last night?

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Re: Dyche

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:13 am

theduke wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:07 am
I know this seems really hard for ultra pro Dyche people to understand but Everton fans don't expect to win things currently or even play free flowing football.

What they don't accept is a team not scoring a goal at goodison from open play since October and they dont acvcept a team not even attempting to score a goal

Then you should still be out celebrating with your fellow fans you scored twice last night.

I actually don't care if Dyche is at Everton or not, my own viewpoint is he is better off out of that club away from one of the most moronic fan bases in the country. They live a life of bitterness in Liverpool's shadow and it eats them up. The West Ham of the north

Now Dyche has gone I guess we should be spared your posts about massive Everton

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Re: Dyche

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:16 am

taio wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:21 am
I doubt many on here give a toss whether Everton stay up, with or without Dyche. I want them to get relegated and did so with Dyche in charge. I suppose those who think he would've kept them up are basing that on the fact that he has done in previous seasons and they are currently just out of the relegation zone. So not unreasonable to believe he would have kept them up again. Dyche did an outstanding job here. What's delusional is anyone not sufficiently recognising that.
Dyche always had a knack of upsetting the odds & coming up with the goods when It mattered. I believe he would have kept them up I actually believe he would have done the same here. There's that much money involved some people are terrified of relegation & reluctant to hold their nerve & see it out.

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Re: Dyche

Post by 4:20 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:29 am

Papabendi wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:10 am
So, did he play last night?
Ferguson didn't bring him on, said he probably would have if they were 2-0 down but with the score being at 1-0, the game was still in the balance and he needed a striker, had to do what's best for the team. Apparently, an Everton player had a go at him for not bringing him on, shame on that player. Like you said earlier, a PR stunt to begin with and because DF didn't see the PR game out, he's now getting all sorts of vicious abuse on social media.

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Re: Dyche

Post by Ric_C » Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:36 am

Some managers are just good fits for certain clubs. Dyche was a good fit for us, but never really accepted at Everton.

Look at Nuno, a terrible time at Spurs, but working wonders with Forest
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Re: Dyche

Post by IanMcL » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:58 am

Tall Paul wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:29 am
Everton aren't going to be relegated, SD or no SD.
I think they probably are. Unless the Moyes rumours are true. He plays practical football too.

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Re: Dyche

Post by Shaggy » Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:20 pm

Everton were done under Dyche. Hes too basic to get them safe. They will survive now he’s gone which will annoy a few diehards on here

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Re: Dyche

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:40 pm

It’s a shame that Everton have gone for Moyes - he’ll keep them up as SD would have done. I was hoping for a big foreign name to take them down.

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Re: Dyche

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:47 pm

Whenever I hear David Moyes mentioned I see this image of the lad he used to be at Dunfermline
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Re: Dyche

Post by claretabroad » Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:47 pm

It is difficult to judge Dyche on what he did at Everton. They are a basketcase of a club with some very serious deep seated issues. I don't know if he would have kept them up but I know the players would have worked their hardest to do it. The team he inherited was bereft of goal scoring threats but had solid defenders. I'm also far from convinced that SD had much involvement in player purchases as they really don't seem to be the sort of players he has a reputation for buying.

New owners like shiny new toys and SD was clearly a dead man walking. The best he could have hoped for was to see his contract out before being let go but the owners have decided to pull the plug early. The issues with the squad remain and I don't know if any new manager will be able to do more than SD did.

I have no doubt he will be back in work whenever he wants to be. It would probably be better for him to wait until summer rather than jump into another poisoned chalice immediately. Everton perhaps need a relegation to clear everything out and start afresh, I believe it will set them up better for the future. I am sure their fans will vehemently disagree with that.

He took us to Europe and assembled the best Burnley side I can remember. Yes, it went stale but when owners decide to stop investing in the squad that was inevitable. He is, and always will be. a Burnley legend and for good reason. I wish him all the best.
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Re: Dyche

Post by Tall Paul » Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:56 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:47 pm
Whenever I hear David Moyes mentioned I see this image of the lad he used to be at Dunfermline

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Photoshop is great isn't it?

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Re: Dyche

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:04 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:56 pm
Photoshop is great isn't it?
Funny though if you read the bumph by the bloke who photshopped it 😉

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Re: Dyche

Post by brexit » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:01 pm

claretabroad wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:47 pm
It is difficult to judge Dyche on what he did at Everton. They are a basketcase of a club with some very serious deep seated issues. I don't know if he would have kept them up but I know the players would have worked their hardest to do it. The team he inherited was bereft of goal scoring threats but had solid defenders. I'm also far from convinced that SD had much involvement in player purchases as they really don't seem to be the sort of players he has a reputation for buying.

New owners like shiny new toys and SD was clearly a dead man walking. The best he could have hoped for was to see his contract out before being let go but the owners have decided to pull the plug early. The issues with the squad remain and I don't know if any new manager will be able to do more than SD did.

I have no doubt he will be back in work whenever he wants to be. It would probably be better for him to wait until summer rather than jump into another poisoned chalice immediately. Everton perhaps need a relegation to clear everything out and start afresh, I believe it will set them up better for the future. I am sure their fans will vehemently disagree with that.

He took us to Europe and assembled the best Burnley side I can remember. Yes, it went stale but when owners decide to stop investing in the squad that was inevitable. He is, and always will be. a Burnley legend and for good reason. I wish him all the best.
When he left Burnley I thought he may go abroad and coach. i think if he did that, he would be exposed to other styles of coaching and become a future England Manager.
If I were him, I would probably pick a club like Mansfield or Walsall and see if he can them into the championship play-offs.

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Re: Dyche

Post by equinox » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:17 pm

Sean wasn't intended to be the long term solution at Everton, he was there to keep them in the Premier League until the new stadium was ready, his contract was up in the summer, it was never going to be extended, regardless.
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Re: Dyche

Post by Vincent'sCap » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:12 pm

I feel sorry for Dyche loved by us but never stood a chance at that basketcase of a club come on Ipswich and Wolves relegate them hope they go down and take their shiny new stadium with them the tossers

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Re: Dyche

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:20 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:58 am
I think they probably are. Unless the Moyes rumours are true. He plays practical football too.
Still got the same players though

DCL might decide to play football again though, which could help, or he might carry on pretending to be a footballer

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Re: Dyche

Post by equinox » Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:36 pm

Spoken today for the first time since his 'Sacking'.

He's definitely instigated his departure, a sly old SeaDog is Sean, good on him.
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Re: Dyche

Post by basil6345789 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:42 pm

equinox wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:36 pm
Spoken today for the first time since his 'Sacking'.

He's definitely instigated his departure, a sly old SeaDog is Sean, good on him.
Similar to Big Sam from Deadwood

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Re: Dyche

Post by equinox » Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:52 pm

Watch Moyes play a bit more expansive to try and appease the baying mob and Everton get totally anialated.

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Re: Dyche

Post by Clovius Boofus » Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:12 pm

equinox wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:36 pm
Spoken today for the first time since his 'Sacking'.

He's definitely instigated his departure, a sly old SeaDog is Sean, good on him.
What did he say?

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Re: Dyche

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:16 pm

It's not hard to post a link or image etc...or just carry on being cryptic
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Re: Dyche

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:27 pm

Good statement by Dyche. Everton was a perfect fit for his skillset and he's done a fantastic job there over the last two years. Its clear that an astute man like Dyche recognises that he's not the man to manage with a big budget and big expectations so he's done the right thing and stepped aside for someone better to take over and take on Everton's next big challenge

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Re: Dyche

Post by Stonehouse » Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:33 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:16 pm
It's not hard to post a link or image etc...or just carry on being cryptic

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It’s a pity the owners couldn’t have been as magnanimous.

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Re: Dyche

Post by Stayingup » Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:34 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:27 pm
Good statement by Dyche. Everton was a perfect fit for his skillset and he's done a fantastic job there over the last two years. Its clear that an astute man like Dyche recognises that he's not the man to manage with a big budget and big expectations so he's done the right thing and stepped aside for someone better to take over and take on Everton's next big challenge
You're good at jokes - bad one's. Once a prick .... and so it goes.

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Re: Dyche

Post by BurnleyFC » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:26 pm

No surprise, but that’s a really classy statement from Sean Dyche.

Unfortunately, I think Moyes will manage to keep that car crash of a club up. I hope I’m wrong, though.

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Re: Dyche

Post by Funkydrummer » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:44 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:26 pm
No surprise, but that’s a really classy statement from Sean Dyche.

Unfortunately, I think Moyes will manage to keep that car crash of a club up. I hope I’m wrong, though.
Not made a good start has he ? :D

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Re: Dyche

Post by Bosscat » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:51 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:26 pm
No surprise, but that’s a really classy statement from Sean Dyche.

Unfortunately, I think Moyes will manage to keep that car crash of a club up. I hope I’m wrong, though.
:D going well so far ... as my old mate David (sadly no longer with us) would say "watery eyed git" where David Moyes is concerned (goes back to his PNE days :lol: ) David hated Moyes with a passion ;)

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Re: Dyche

Post by warksclaret » Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:24 am

Stonehouse wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:33 pm
It’s a pity the owners couldn’t have been as magnanimous.
Precicely my thoughts. My prediction going forwards is that Leicester get relegated, Ruud leaves in Summer, and Dyche is given the role of rebuilding Leicester and getting them back in the PL, providing stability for the club.

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Re: Dyche

Post by ClaretPete001 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:39 am

Sh@t show from Moyes picking the same team as Dyche but playing a higher press was always likely to end up in a 1-0 reverse with a ball over the top.

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Re: Dyche

Post by Shaggy » Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:49 am

Yawn isn’t fit to wear Moyes underpants

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Re: Dyche

Post by 4:20 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:50 am

No easy games as the saying goes and anything can happen but, on paper at least, April is going to be a heck of a challenge if the struggle continues for the next couple of months or so.
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Re: Dyche

Post by Enola Gay » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:03 am

Thank God for all those Burnley fans who apparently don’t give a toss about Everton.

You’re all gonna win me my bet that this thread hits 10+ pages before the end of the season. I’ll probably be collecting before Easter.

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Re: Dyche

Post by cockneyclaret » Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:16 am

4:20 wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:50 am
No easy games as the saying goes and anything can happen but, on paper at least, April is going to be a heck of a challenge if the struggle continues for the next couple of months or so.

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But like always one of those teams will gift Everton points, just enough to stay up.
Just hope Wolves and Ipswich go on some winning runs
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Re: Dyche

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:34 am

cockneyclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:16 am
But like always one of those teams will gift Everton points, just enough to stay up.
Just hope Wolves and Ipswich go on some winning runs
But like always it will be engineered that the Premier League will enable something to happen to keep them in the league
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