Burnley vs The Mackems - MATCH THREAD

[123EasyasBFC]

Flemming has to take the chance early in the second half that completely changes the complexion of the game, I know fans are suggesting we don’t need a 9 but we need creativity, we need both. It’s amazing a team has scored 22 goals in 25 games and is in the top 2. Remarkable back 5

[123EasyasBFC]

If we'd have played 90 minutes like we played the opening 20 mins we'd have had it wrapped up at half time.

As it was, we reverted to type after that and then it was the same turgid stuff that we've become accustomed to at home and resulted in numerous occasions where you could hear the players talking to each other which is never a great sign.

It was a really poor game of football I thought in terms of quality on the ball and decision making, both sides, and when you chuck in the disasterclass the ref put in then it was a bad advert for the Championship.

Both sides look to be missing something that will give them the edge to claim an automatic, though the more I watch us the more I'm convinced it's not going to a single player that will give us that. The system is geared to protect the defense and anyone new will have the same instructions.

Everyone from Cullen back was first class once again mind.

I think Anthony and foster were good first half

[ISpeds00]

Anthony was good - but you could see he was nackered mid 2nd half

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think Anthony and foster were good first half

I thought they both looked bright but final ball quality was again shocking. Worth noting I think that was Brownhills worst game in quite some time.

Crying out for some quality in the final third. We have got to after someone this window (for what it worth I don’t think Whittaker is that player).

[wilks_bfc]

Don’t tell anybody but I was sat with my Mackem mate in the JMU

When the were awarded the first penalty he wasn’t confident about them scoring and when he saw who was taking it said he’d miss and when they got the second and saw it was the same player was taking it again, said the same thing again

[me01jh]

Nope, mixed in with shouts of 'get a f****** move on Trafford'. People definitely booing that he wasn't moving the ball fast enough.

I was defo screaming at the tele for him to hurry up as we look so much more threatening when we move the ball quickly, however, it appears to be part of an overall strategy to slow it down and attempt to play out from the back in a more methodical manner.

It could be tactical as we expend a lot of energy getting back behind the ball, so to avoid the game getting stretched we build up in a more pragmatic manner.

[Colburn_Claret]

Without Hannibal or Sarmiento playing in a midfield 4, Brownhill can't get into the box enough to make a difference.

I said 6 weeks ago, we don't need a target man, we need a goal poacher, someone who knows how to find space in the box, and takes a gamble on the crosses.

[chekhov]

We've had a stonewall penalty not given today and had two non penalties given against us. That was arguably the worst ref I've ever seen us have, he should be investigated.

Stonewall penalty? No it wasn’t, at least I certainly didn’t think so. Flemming went down far too easiler, he should have been more determined to get to the ball.

[warksclaret]

Disappointing as there was expectation about this game and going top if only temporarily

However a point, particularly in view of how we saved the game twice, will look and feel better once we have slept on it, particularly as they had the better chances. Also have seen Sunderland play tonight they are capable of beating Leeds and Sheff Utd and feel sure they still have both to play.

[123EasyasBFC]

I thought they both looked bright but final ball quality was again shocking. Worth noting I think that was Brownhills worst game in quite some time.

Crying out for some quality in the final third. We have got to after someone this window (for what it worth I don’t think Whittaker is that player).

It was defo one of brownhills off nights, but I think the issue was the lack of movement in Flemming and foster in the box.

Also the amount of dead balls that ended up with Humphreys attacking them, why are our ‘strikers’ not attacking them

[ralph8]

Foster should have been hooked a lot earlier, maybe 75 mins, the Sunderland defence had him in their pocket, can't understand the 1 minute Barnes sub combined with earlier having 3 wingers on the pitch which really upset the balance of the team.

Roll on the transfer window and we can get a mobile striker who will end all the nil to one goals scored in a game.

[chekhov]

Trafford is embarrassing
Can’t stand them sort of tactics.

Agree with this.

[Wokingclaret]

Foster should have been hooked a lot earlier, maybe 75 mins, the Sunderland defence had him in their pocket, can't understand the 1 minute Barnes sub combined with earlier having 3 wingers on the pitch which really upset the balance of the team.

Roll on the transfer window and we can get a mobile striker who will end all the nil to one goals scored in a game.

Only agreed with the Barnes signing if it stopped these 0-0, should have been on at the 70th minuet at the latest

[Wokingclaret]

Trafford is embarrassing
Can’t stand them sort of tactics.

Probably taught all that in the England U21s

[BigGaz]

The first twenty minutes I mention were good because Foster and Anthony's first thought was to get the ball on the half turn and run at their man. They both looked like they were going to have them on toast.

They then stopped doing that and that was the end of us looking threatening (for the most part). No doubt at all in my mind they were instructed to do so.

[dougcollins]

Abject lesson in Parkerball.

Sorry, I meant object.

[boyyanno]

Stonewall penalty? No it wasn’t, at least I certainly didn’t think so. Flemming went down far too easiler, he should have been more determined to get to the ball.

I thought it was a stonewall penalty to be honest.

The defender didn't play the ball he played the man.

[chekhov]

I thought it was a stonewall penalty to be honest.

The defender didn't play the ball he played the man.

Worth viewing the replays. I definitely thought he went down far too easily.

[Milltown1882]

I thought they both looked bright but final ball quality was again shocking. Worth noting I think that was Brownhills worst game in quite some time.

Crying out for some quality in the final third. We have got to after someone this window (for what it worth I don’t think Whittaker is that player).

You also said Houtondji would score 20 this season

[GetIntoEm]

Some proper head the balls on here tonight. Can tell it's a Friday night

[dougcollins]

Some proper head the balls on here tonight. Can tell it's a Friday night

And here you are.

[Blyclaret]

I think second half we lost the midfield. They slowly took over and really had 3 golden chances to win game.
I think introducing someone like Shelvey would beva great option in games like this.

[boyyanno]

Worth viewing the replays. I definitely thought he went down far too easily.

I've seen the replays, the defender doesn't get the ball he plays the man.

I can appreciate it if you don't think it's a penalty but it seems the general consensus on here (at least on the match thread) was that it looked like a penalty.

[ClaretTony]

Trafford is embarrassing
Can’t stand them sort of tactics.

Done absolutely nothing that any goalkeeper does in that situation. To suggest he's embarrassing is really a nonsense.

[rosswallacefreekick]

Unless Alan Pace or Parker can come up with a player(s) to provide us with more of a goal threat then it looks as though one of the automatic promotion places will prove to be beyond us. 2 more points dropped at home which could well prove decisive come May.

Sadly, the game tonight made me feel like we’re not going to get automatic promotion.

There are four teams that could be in 1 or 2. I feel like we’re in 3 or 4 due to not having a goal threat.

[gawthorpe_view]

Abject lesson in Parkerball.

Sorry, I meant object.

No need to apologise, ypu were correct first time.

[Burnleyareback2]

Trafford is embarrassing
Can’t stand them sort of tactics.

I don’t like this either, but it was fair game once their player tried to get in his head before the first penalty. Then came back again for the second.

I don’t like it, but it’s part of the game and I’d prefer we do these things than lose 0-2

[California Colner]

I’m not saying other keepers do get in the players head
But 3 mins of it!!! The first pen
I think he was lucky not to get two yellows
Sportsmanship is obviously a thing in the past and the nasty comments about me saying what I did shows what sort of world we live in

[Cooclaret]

Shut up you absolute wet wipe. Mental health because he missed a penalty. Don't be so pathetic. That said, I hope I haven't your mental health

What a disgusting post.

[HahaYeah]

Thought Trafford showed some dastardly brilliance in the dark arts tonight by changing his gloves and unnerving the hapless Isador.

[TPClaret]

Worth viewing the replays. I definitely thought he went down far too easily.

Very soft pen. Sonne goes to ground to block. Minimal contact

[Cooclaret]

He's certainly shut a lot of people up has Trafford
OK he can be unsteady sometimes with pressure on him - but he's the best goalkeeper in this league, and better than most in the prem

He is Englands next long term #1. He’s known it, the England setup know it and I’ve shouted it loud and clear.

Love the guy. Love that he takes on the oppo fans, the thrives on it! The double pistol gesture shows how cool he is.

The interview afterwards with him and his buddy was class!

[TheOriginalLongsider]

It worked. We got a point

[beddie]

Brilliant by the boys tonight. I think we should have left Robert’s on the pitch, we just looked a little unbalanced once he went off.

[123EasyasBFC]

We seemed to put so much effort into the first half performance especially down the right hand side that about about 60 minutes both Anthony and Roberts looked knackered

[Vegas Claret]

Sunderland best team we've played this season imho, first part of the first half they couldn't get a kick and we didn't capitalize such are our problems

[GetIntoEm]

Traffords antics were fantastic. The swapping of gloves was first class, their players were totally rattled. Great work James. Big future ahead of you. UTC

[Goalposts]

My tuppeth for what its worth

Sunderland definitely the best team to visit the turf so far this year.
Absolutely two of the softest penalties or non penalties ive ever seen.
Based on consistency Flemming would have been a pen - but for me would have been soft and didn’t show enough to want to win the ball.
Pace hurts sides and they have pace
Anthony is excellent when he doesnt have to think and does stuff instinctively. When he has to think he’s average.
We have the best defensive back line i have ever seen in my 60 years of following burnley.
Looked like foster is improving are being coached better. Koelsho is not an answer.
Brownhills poorest game of the season.
If we go up it will be a new football league record promoted with the fewest goals but the least conceded.
I can see why they’re looking at JJ Shelby but not sure personally he is the answer.
Anybody criticising Trafford now has probably recently undergone a lobotomy

We will finish top four it will be one hell of a ride to the end of the season

[AmbleClaret]

I’m not saying other keepers do get in the players head
But 3 mins of it!!! The first pen
I think he was lucky not to get two yellows
Sportsmanship is obviously a thing in the past and the nasty comments about me saying what I did shows what sort of world we live in

You criticised our keeper for trying to put the opposition off from winning the game. What sort of a reaction did you expect?

[HahaYeah]

Trafford even found time to scratch his balls before saving the second penalty.

[Kgun5]

No, “they”don’t.

Disagree, but that's cool.

[TPClaret]

Their manager said Trafford was smart with his antics. He had no problem with it. He’d probably expect his Keeper to do the same. The striker wasn’t so smart

[aggi]

Brilliant by the boys tonight. I think we should have left Robert’s on the pitch, we just looked a little unbalanced once he went off.

I thought Roberts was having a worse than normal game. Involved but lots of misplaced passes and being muscled off the ball.

But, we looked worse for it when he came off. Sonne wasn't involved as much as Roberts and didn't offer the same options.

[Wile E Coyote]

we are becoming well known for defensive masterclasses, saving two pens can only add to that reputation.
Huge performance from a young keeper that has had to endure colossal criticism .
Phenomenal job from our keeper. .

[Stan Tastic]

Brilliant by the boys tonight. I think we should have left Robert’s on the pitch, we just looked a little unbalanced once he went off.

What an apostrophe!

[California Colner]

Done absolutely nothing that any goalkeeper does in that situation. To suggest he's embarrassing is really a nonsense.

Tony how many times have you seen a goal keeper change his gloves before facing a penalty and take 3 minutes to do so?
I know keepers try and get in players heads but come on the time it took !!
Lucky to get away with one yellow, I’m sure you would have a different view if it had happened to us!
What happened to integrity ?

[Quicknick]

Tony how many times have you seen a goal keeper change his gloves before facing a penalty and take 3 minutes to do so?
I know keepers try and get in players heads but come on the time it took !!
Lucky to get away with one yellow, I’m sure you would have a different view if it had happened to us!
What happened to integrity ?

Integrity? This was a vital football match. Have you been in California too long?

[chekhov]

Very soft pen. Sonne goes to ground to block. Minimal contact

I was referring to our penalty claim when Flemming collapsed with minimal contact.

[Robbie_painter]

I was referring to our penalty claim when Flemming collapsed with minimal contact.

If that was Isodor in our box the ref gives a pen.

[Elizabeth]

Trafford took his delaying tactics for the penalties to a new low level. It worked in our flavour but I didn't enjoy watching it. To say this is the normal action of goalkeepers is a nonsense and the ref should have booked him long before the first penalty was taken. Are we now going to see all goalkeepers throw their gloves to the ground as soon as a penalty is awarded and take time putting them on after imaginary boot adjustment.
Definitely claret tinted classes for those defending this. Let's see how understanding you will be if we are on the receiving end of such blatant time wasting.