Fulham ish about Parker

[Commy]

Write up about Parker and if they think he has improved since his Fulham days.

https://www.fulhamish.co.uk/post/2025-0 ... tt-parker/

[distortiondave]

You never go full Amish.

[Bosscat]

You never go full Amish.

Harrison Ford did in "Witness"

[criminalclaret]

Football is famously a results business, and three points are worth far more than the critiques of armchair fans and Fulhamish contributors. Parker may well guide Burnley to the promised land with one of the best defences the league has ever seen and ultimately it is only for Burnley’s fans to decide whether the price of dull football and a potentially difficult season in the Premier League is one worth paying.

It never was for Fulham fans but for now, Parkerball may be just what Burnley needs.

I find that harsh to be completely honest.

What gives me hope is what we saw for the first game at Luton, when he had quality at his disposal and we looked great. Since then he had to deal with square pegs in round holes with a team which has took much longer to settle than Kompany's.

If he gets us promoted he should get decent crack at the whip (unlike his 4 games at Bournemouth in the PL) but hopefully Pace will have learnt from the times of leaving a managerial change too late or being too loyal. A change should be made no later than Christmas should we be in the PL next season.

[Taffy on the wing]

Harrison Ford did in "Witness"

Decent film if i remember right.

[Goalposts]

I thought it could be considered a pretty fair assessment - based on their experience of his management at Fulham.
And the big question remains can we score more goals.

Given the outgoings this season i think he’s done an excellent job settling the side. For me it’s what attacking signings we make before the window closes. That probably says more about the clubs ambition than Parker’s.

The Shelby signing and Barnes return dont necessarily fill me with hope.. a fully fit Ramsey back is something to relish.

But lets see

[Bosscat]

Decent film if i remember right.

A very good film ... Danny Glover a great baddie too

[jojomk1]

Makes interesting reading, quite a bit of which was similar to other journalists thoughts on his previous stints
Did a great job getting both Fulham and Bournemouth promoted but then followed similar discontent from him towards the clubs hierarchy when he felt he was not getting enough financial support in the Premier league seasons that followed
In his eyes those were the reasons relegation followed within 12 months - in even less time at Bournemouth
Are we going to hear the same from him if promotion is achieved this season
Check your bank balance Alan

[burnley007]

Makes interesting reading, quite a bit of which was similar to other journalists thoughts on his previous stints
Did a great job getting both Fulham and Bournemouth promoted but then followed similar discontent from him towards the clubs hierarchy when he felt he was not getting enough financial support in the Premier league seasons that followed
In his eyes those were the reasons relegation followed within 12 months - in even less time at Bournemouth
Are we going to hear the same from him if promotion is achieved this season
Check your bank balance Alan

Followed up by Bournemouth staying up and playing much better football immediately after he left, which is largely where their criticism comes from.

We will just have to see how things unfold for us over the next few months...

[Colburn_Claret]

Comparing him to Silva and Ariola is ridiculous. Completely different times and circumstances.

Regardless of those teams he should only be judged on his time here. There is a division in opinion. I really want him to succeed, because then the team will be successful, yet despite our position in the league, the failings in this team are quickly overriding the positives imo. If it's fair to attribute the wonderful defensive record to him, then it's equally fair to attribute our failings at the other end of the pitch to him. There isn't many teams in this league that wouldn't bite our hands off for any of our midfielders or strikers, yet SP is failing to get a decent tune out of them. HIS system/instructions are costing us valuable points. We create nothing and hand on heart a.n.other manager could easily do better, just with a change of attitude.

I've never called for him to go, I don't want him to go. I just want him to let these players free to show what they are capable of when not weighed down by safety first tactics. Show some real faith in the Centre Halves and Keeper, that they can do a very good job, even when they aren't mollycoddled.

[kentonclaret]

The article completely fails to mention the promotion season for Bournemouth under Parker, where the team finished as runners up as the second highest scoring team in the Championship alllied to the best defensive record. Parker only managed Bournemouth for a handful of games in the PL before falling out with the hierarchy and is completely irrelevant to his ability as a Championship manager. In that role at Bournemouth Scott Parker was a success.
File the article under a load of old Ballards.

[kentonclaret]

Makes interesting reading, quite a bit of which was similar to other journalists thoughts on his previous stints
Did a great job getting both Fulham and Bournemouth promoted but then followed similar discontent from him towards the clubs hierarchy when he felt he was not getting enough financial support in the Premier league seasons that followed
In his eyes those were the reasons relegation followed within 12 months - in even less time at Bournemouth
Are we going to hear the same from him if promotion is achieved this season
Check your bank balance Alan

Scott Parker was probably justified in feeling that he was not supported sufficiently financially at Bournemouth, which is why they ended up having a hectic transfer window in January 2023 feeling the need to bring in 6 signings to stave off the threat of relegation.

[bumba]

I thought it could be considered a pretty fair assessment - based on their experience of his management at Fulham.
And the big question remains can we score more goals.

Given the outgoings this season i think he’s done an excellent job settling the side. For me it’s what attacking signings we make before the window closes. That probably says more about the clubs ambition than Parker’s.

The Shelby signing and Barnes return dont necessarily fill me with hope.. a fully fit Ramsey back is something to relish.

But lets see

We don't actually know fully where we stand with Ramsey, Tresor and Redmond do we. We've got Foster back now and he's looked good if we can get the other three fit from injuries and playing/wanting to play for us then we're a much more more attacking threat. None have featured in the championship this season imagine if we signed those three in a January window we'd be delighted so we don't necessarily need signings we just need to know where we stand with these three.
Will Ramsey be fit soon to play a part?
Will Redmond be fit and does he want to stay?
What the hell is the truth with Tresor?

Those three fit behind Foster/Flemming would give us more goals I feel.

[Corky]

A touch of serendipity here. Yesterday I was out walking the dog and met a couple who I see fairly regularly on dog walks and normally it is just a brief hello, let the dogs have a bit of a play and then we go our separate ways. But this time I was wearing my Burnley hat and the man asks me how I’m getting on with Parkerball. Turns out he is a Fulham fan but not necessarily a fan of Parkers. He reckoned the football was pretty boring with Parker at Fulham due to all the sideways passing of the ball and always playing it safe. Seems Parker made an impression but perhaps not the one he wanted.

[HunterST_BFC]

Redmond would be a plus.
IF he can still do it? at least he could put a ball in on the run.
Jay or Barnes to head it it ... minute 90
(all 3 each will rerely start now ..)

So many Nils this season yet no change/sub has had an impact really (or not often enough times)

[IanMcL]

Redmond would be a plus.
IF

So many Nils this season yet no change/sub has had an impact really (or not often enough times)

So many Nils, I think I am somewhere in Scandinavia!

[TPClaret]

People say it’s boring, yet the first two games with last season’s team we scored nine goals under SP. Maybe if he had the quality players we had those first two games we would be scoring a lot more goals.

[Guller Bull]

People say it’s boring, yet the first two games with last season’s team we scored nine goals under SP. Maybe if he had the quality players we had those first two games we would be scoring a lot more goals.

Yup people do say that. Not the first two games, they weren’t boring. He managed to calm that **** down very quickly.
Yes he lost a few good offensive players but he still had a good range of options at his disposal and then fetched a few more in.

A lot has been made of this issue but Delta Badhand has has plenty of chance to work on balance and strength in the final third (as they say) but that is not his priority.

[Shaggy]

The first 2 games we seemed to score with every chance we got. Especially in the Cardiff game.

The football is slow and turgid and relies on either individual brilliance or a mistake from the opposition.

We should be aiming for automatic promotion with our resources and squad but even if we land in the play offs, if we don’t get promoted then for me he has to go.

[aggi]

A pretty fair article I thought. A lot of it could have bene written about this season, e.g.

arguably more exasperating was the slew of feeble draws against the likes of Wigan, Derby and Milwall.

[Murger]

A pretty fair article I thought. A lot of it could have bene written about this season, e.g.

arguably more exasperating was the slew of feeble draws against the likes of Wigan, Derby and Milwall.

Bodes well for tonight.

[TPClaret]

The first 2 games we seemed to score with every chance we got. Especially in the Cardiff game.

The football is slow and turgid and relies on either individual brilliance or a mistake from the opposition.

We should be aiming for automatic promotion with our resources and squad but even if we land in the play offs, if we don’t get promoted then for me he has to go.

Are we not aiming for automatic promotion. Certainly on track to do so at the moment. Why keep talking of sacking him, really going to help.

[scouseclaret]

Bodes well for tonight.

Thought the article was spot on. Parker has done a brilliant job getting us where we are with the hand he was dealt, but the football is very boring, we are devoid of creativity and don’t score nearly enough goals. If we don’t address this in the next week (beyond the recent signings of two well past their best players) it will surely cost us (at least automatic) promotion.

[ClaretPete001]

If we had an Isidor or Latte Lath in the side then I would agree.

We spent Eur11 million on a striker who has scored 24 goals in 138 games. At the age of 24 has only ever managed 24 games in a season and been successful in one season in the Belgian Pro league.

Other than that we have two 35 year olds and a couple of players on loan.

It's quite clear we lack a cutting edge partially because of personnel and not just because Parker's playing style.

But anyone can see that what is said in the article is not a million miles from what we are seeing on the pitch.

A draw against Plymouth this evening and the alarm bells will start ringing because we have 3 big teams around us who are just not losing.

[ChorltonCharlie]

If we had an Isidor or Latte Lath in the side then I would agree.

We spent Eur11 million on a striker who has scored 24 goals in 138 games. At the age of 24 has only ever managed 24 games in a season and been successful in one season in the Belgian Pro league.

Isidor's record is nothing special. In terms of goals per minute it's not much better than Flemming, who most Burnley fans see as being played out of position. It's also worse than Foster's was in the PL at this stage last season. Which shows that there's a decent enough player there in Foster. It's up to Parker to get the best out of him. As it is Koleosho, Sarmiento and Flemming.

[ChorltonCharlie]

Are we not aiming for automatic promotion. Certainly on track to do so at the moment. Why keep talking of sacking him, really going to help.

Sacking him is a daft idea, and I still think there's only a crazy bunch who think that. But we're not on course for automatic promotion, only on course to challenge for it. If we're still only 2 or 3 points off going into Feb I think we have a decent chance, but only if Parker can show he can send this bunch of players out looking like they're going to beat mediocre opposition week in, week out. At the moment both points gained and performances would suggest we'll fall just short.

[NottsClaret]

Looking at what's been said about him before, he's certainly consistent. He's not hopeless at all - he's professional, honest and competent. But he does tend to kill football wherever he goes. I doubt there'll ever be a club out there where fans think 'I wish we had Scott Parker back in charge'.

And we're not on course for automatic promotion, we're on course for the play offs.

[dougcollins]

We're just waiting for our Mitrovic/Solanke to turn up..

[TPClaret]

We are looking very Fulham ish tonight

[CoolClaret]

Fulham twatish*

[ClaretPete001]

Isidor's record is nothing special. In terms of goals per minute it's not much better than Flemming, who most Burnley fans see as being played out of position. It's also worse than Foster's was in the PL at this stage last season. Which shows that there's a decent enough player there in Foster. It's up to Parker to get the best out of him. As it is Koleosho, Sarmiento and Flemming.

Both Foster and Isidor are 24 but one has scored 1 in 3 and the other 1 in 6 in varying leagues. Foster got 1 in 5 in the PL but there was a short period when we were playing Kamikazi football that he did score a few goals.

Flemming is playing out of position but has improved over the course of the season. I was impressed with Isidor he looked a potent striker when they played us and Lyle doesn't at the moment and hasn't done apart from a brief period before Xmas in the PL.

We've scored 5 tonight but I think we still need a quality striker to see us into those two top spots.

[ChorltonCharlie]

Both Foster and Isidor are 24 but one has scored 1 in 3 and the other 1 in 6 in varying leagues. Foster got 1 in 5 in the PL but there was a short period when we were playing Kamikazi football that he did score a few goals.

Flemming is playing out of position but has improved over the course of the season. I was impressed with Isidor he looked a potent striker when they played us and Lyle doesn't at the moment and hasn't done apart from a brief period before Xmas in the PL.

We've scored 5 tonight but I think we still need a quality striker to see us into those two top spots.

The update since last night is that striker you're so impressed with now has a worse record this season than the player you'd want him to replace.

As for Foster, we knew when we got him we'd paid for potential. He may never realise that, but there's plenty of players who have taken a year or two at this level before they hit a purple patch. The other guy you mention, Latte Lath, did nothing special until the age Foster is now, and even that was in the Swiss league.

I'm a big believer that we've spent a lot of money on players, or at least have it tied into obligations, and it's up to Parker to get the best out of them. We don't have the money to not persevere.