January Transfer Window Rumours

[gandhisflipflop]

I thought Egan had already gone?

By all accounts he has. I was asking if we could pull out of the deal if it isn’t complete yet with cj potentially going to palace.

[Selby Claret]

Did Taylor sign for Hull. This talk of a left back has made me wonder.

No not yet

[burnley007]

CJ is not going to Palace, apparently it was a spoof account according to my son.

[Conroy92]

No not yet

Hmmmm. The plot thickens.

[Steddyman]

Breaking up a record breaking defence now would be insane

Turning down £15m for a player refusing to sign a contract extension that walks away in June would also be insane.

[fidelcastro]

CJ is not going to Palace, apparently it was a spoof account according to my son.

What is the point?

Roll on 11pm!

[Newcastleclaret93]

https://x.com/ryantaylorsport/status/18 ... cYMQnkX92A

Finally a striker link

[Goliath]

Turning down £15m for a player refusing to sign a contract extension that walks away in June would also be insane.

It does seem to confirm that he will be gone in Summer regardless. We can't really compete with Palace at the moment on any front.
You've got to take a gamble occasionally though and this is probably one of those times if the story of a 15m bid is true

[BleedingClaret]

Out of interest who have we let go for a loss? So many ins and outs I lose track, but normally we do ok in getting fees

I'm going to say that we will make a loss on Tresor......
But that's not answering your question, my feeling over the years, is that we have like Gibson, my instinct is that we haven't watched the pennies enough, but specifically pertaining to the Pace Era which if I'm honest I was alluding to, I haven't got the facts to hand, so I'll do some homework and provide back up evidence or admit I'm wrong if I'm wrong...

[Row x]

From the mirror
Red Star Belgrade have also received late interest from Burnley for striker Pape Cherif Ndiaye. Sunderland were keen before Liverpool sanctioned Jayden Danns loan.

[123EasyasBFC]

https://x.com/ryantaylorsport/status/18 ... cYMQnkX92A

Finally a striker link

The article says they expect him to stay

[Milltown1882]

13 in 17 and 2 assists this season, can’t see him coming cheap.

[burnley007]

13 in 17 and 2 assists this season, can’t see him coming cheap.

They left him out of their squad at the weekend for a sale to Sunderland. Looks like they want the cash.

[123EasyasBFC]

They left him out of their squad at the weekend for a sale to Sunderland. Looks like they want the cash.

Selling defender to wolves for 10m that looks like the cash they needed

[Milltown1882]

They left him out of their squad at the weekend for a sale to Sunderland. Looks like they want the cash.

In that case is anyone on flight tracker for Belgrade to Manchester yet?

[FeedTheArf]

From the mirror
Red Star Belgrade have also received late interest from Burnley for striker Pape Cherif Ndiaye. Sunderland were keen before Liverpool sanctioned Jayden Danns loan.

Interesting that the signings and links since Parker have come in have all been for players who have experience. The previous plan of taking punts on multiple young players in the hope 1 or 2 come off seems to be out of the window.

I'm glad we're trying to get a bit of balance to the age profile of the squad.

[BleedingClaret]

Out of interest who have we let go for a loss? So many ins and outs I lose track, but normally we do ok in getting fees

I know we're making a net profit on Transfers but I'd be interested to know how much when you factor in the wages and signing on fees including agents

Weghorst Signed for 17.5 million euros -

Loan transfer To Besiktas No fee Suggested So did they just pay his wages???
Loan Fee Man Utd - 3 mil
Loan Fee Hoffenheim - 1.5 mil
Sold to Ajax 2.5 mil
loss 10 million Euros???

[123EasyasBFC]

Can’t for the life of me see us signing anyone from abroad today especially at this stage, any other business would have to come from the UK you’d imagine

[BleedingClaret]

Out of interest who have we let go for a loss? So many ins and outs I lose track, but normally we do ok in getting fees

added To Weghorst and The Tresor impending loss

Darko Churlinov Bought for 3.5 Million euros - Loaned Out Twice No Loan Fee Suggested

[Oldparkwood]

Can’t for the life of me see us signing anyone from abroad today especially at this stage, any other business would have to come from the UK you’d imagine

Why? Other clubs seem to manage it.

[Milltown1882]

Why? Other clubs seem to manage it.

On this basis I’m assuming no clubs can sign a player from abroad for the rest of the day

[123EasyasBFC]

Why? Other clubs seem to manage it.

Just don’t see what this time of the day if it is a supposed late big for a player in Belgrade that we get them over, medical and signed.

More than happy to be wrong and you can come back and quote this message and say I’m wrong

[randomclaret2]

From the mirror
Red Star Belgrade have also received late interest from Burnley for striker Pape Cherif Ndiaye. Sunderland were keen before Liverpool sanctioned Jayden Danns loan.

A new Cherif in town ?

[Oldparkwood]

Just don’t see what this time of the day if it is a supposed late big for a player in Belgrade that we get them over, medical and signed.

More than happy to be wrong and you can come back and quote this message and say I’m wrong

Its not about one upmanship all the time!

[BleedingClaret]

Out of interest who have we let go for a loss? So many ins and outs I lose track, but normally we do ok in getting fees

added to Weghorst, Tresor and Churlinov

Paying e4 mil Obafemi & Houtondji sent out on Loan, will still be our players but unlikely to sell for 4mil

So yes we're making a net profit on players in general but I still feel we pay too much for some and as I said the Nett profit ignores, Signing on fees, agents fees, wages, day to day expenses, interest on borrowed money to fund transfers and interest on money borrowed to cover interest on money borrowed. Moneys, the cut, paid to those doing the deals etc and lost revenue by not buying at a level to maintain premier league status

[Selby Claret]

Its not about one upmanship all the time!

As Scotty has proven with all the 0-0 draws

[BigGaz]

It's not the 80's anymore. There's no fax machines and anyone can be anywhere in Europe In 5 hours. Plenty of time to get something done.

[whiffa]

https://x.com/ryantaylorsport/status/18 ... cYMQnkX92A

Finally a striker link

He looks like Tella....

[RickyBobby]

I can be bothered reading through so can someone summarise who is off?
Egan leaving, Brownhill still off to Celtic? Anyone else? CJ leaving?

[BleedingClaret]

Out of interest who have we let go for a loss? So many ins and outs I lose track, but normally we do ok in getting fees

To add to the above:

As they weren't in our Premier League plans we should have made 10 million each on Zaroury and Benson, whilst their stock was high after the championship win

We paid a lot for Amduoni 18 mil Loan fee to Benfica 2 mil will we make that back

Lost a bit on Bastien plus your paying the wages all the while they're here and not playing

It's certainly not all good dealings IMO

[Selby Claret]

I can be bothered reading through so can someone summarise who is off?
Egan leaving, Brownhill still off to Celtic? Anyone else? CJ leaving?

1 - think so
2 - don't think so
3 - don't know
4 - don't know

[Steddyman]

Stay on point for deadline day please

[fidelcastro]

Stay on point for deadline day please

Oh, I know.

What we need is DanielJWaterhouse back on here to give us some well balanced and accurate information on here!

[Dyched]

To add to the above:

As they weren't in our Premier League plans we should have made 10 million each on Zaroury and Benson, whilst their stock was high after the championship win

We paid a lot for Amduoni 18 mil Loan fee to Benfica 2 mil will we make that back

Lost a bit on Bastien plus your paying the wages all the while they're here and not playing

It's certainly not all good dealings IMO

It’s not as clear cut as buy player A for £ sell player A for ££. Buy player B for ££ sell player B for £.

You pay a fee for a player you hope will perform. If they do that helps the team to be successful and the club to be successful. You look at Zaroury and Benson and think “they played a vital role in getting us to the PL and be the market for players like Odobert, Berge, O’Shea”. You also need a club to want to buy Zaroury and Benson.

[TheFamilyCat]

I can't see that Palace are in such desperate need for a defender that they'd be willing to pay £15m for a player who will be free (compensation aside) in the summer.

[Big Vinny K]

To add to the above:

As they weren't in our Premier League plans we should have made 10 million each on Zaroury and Benson, whilst their stock was high after the championship win

We paid a lot for Amduoni 18 mil Loan fee to Benfica 2 mil will we make that back

Lost a bit on Bastien plus your paying the wages all the while they're here and not playing

It's certainly not all good dealings IMO

I think on the whole our transfer dealings in the last decade have been excellent. From a net point of view we will be significantly in profit from our dealings over this period. I am not sure how many clubs who have spent a decent amount of time in the league will have a record as good as ours. There is no club I know of who has got it 100% right so you will always have transfers where you lose on.

I know you reference wages and of course they are relevant but they are essentially part of operational costs. You cannot count them as part of our transfer dealings as if you did you could also start including the revenue that our “staff” has generated during this period as part of any true assessment.

Of course it’s not as linear as that and if a club does go down the route of bringing in a lot of players at relatively low transfer fees but ridiculously high wages then that’s probably not going to end well over the long term. I think generally we have had one of the lowest wage budgets in the premier league and managed to strike a good balance.

What I would say is that under the new owners one thing that is different and you could argue should be taken into account in assessing our transfer dealings is the way we have used factoring facilities. If bought a player for £10m and sold him for £20m which would be normally paid to us over say 3 or 4 years but decided to factor that debt at a cost of say £1m then I’d say that the profit on that transfer would be £9m not £10m. Whilst I’m making these numbers up we have used factoring facilities a lot and I’m unaware of a more expensive way of obtaining finance.

The other thing is when you have the turnover of players we have had in the last 2 or 3 years the agents fees are going to be significant.

[Woodleyclaret]

We need C J tying down to a new contract and I am surprised this had not been a top priority given his outstanding form.

[Stevie Morgan]

We need C J tying down to a new contract and I am surprised this had not been a top priority given his outstanding form.

How do you know it hasn't?

[RicardoMontalban]

We need C J tying down to a new contract and I am surprised this had not been a top priority given his outstanding form.

How do we know it hasn’t been? Perhaps he just doesn’t want to sign one yet.

[matttheclaret]

We need C J tying down to a new contract and I am surprised this had not been a top priority given his outstanding form.

I suspect it has been a top priority for a while. But why would he sign one atm? Makes a lot more sense for him to wait until the summer and access his options

[Big Vinny K]

We need C J tying down to a new contract and I am surprised this had not been a top priority given his outstanding form.

I’m sure the club has offered him a new contract - and we might get an announcement about this. But you could not blame him for seeing his contract out….up until this season he’s barely kicked a ball for us and when he wasn’t being sent out on loan he wasn’t even making the bench.

I know he’s only still young but when you see what he has offered this season and the way he distributes a ball, times a tackle etc then it’s pretty baffling given the way our defence performed last season that he did not get a look in under VK. He was picking Charlie Taylor at centre back before considering CJ.

[Claretnick]

We need C J tying down to a new contract and I am surprised this had not been a top priority given his outstanding form.

Unfortunately we cannot force the pen into his hand. Maybe, on the advice of his agent, he wants to keep all options open. Likewise we could sell him today if a suitable offer came in.....

[Down_Rover]

We need wing backs who are capable of overlapping. Humphreys offers nothing as a left back going forward, and pires seems to underlap a lot which may or may not be at the managers instruction. Roberts has a tendency to drift inside too. So in my opinion this should be the area. That and a striker.

But Humphrys did cross the ball for a goal at Sheff Utd and another very important one at Deadwood

[rexe78202]

Time for another today (I hope)

[gandhisflipflop]

But Humphrys did cross the ball for a goal at Sheff Utd and another very important one at Deadwood

That was an old post and was at RB. He’s much improved recently.

[GetIntoEm]

I'd say we would have to be offering CJ mega bucks plus a big signing fee to sign right now. Not sure we could meet his expectations.

If he walks he will get a massive fee plus likely more wages

[Dassey]

Don't forget. We can only name a squad of 25, plus the homegrown players and under 21s etc.
Seriously over inflated squad needs trimming .

[BigGaz]

There is a left back in the building, think it is Manning but not sure as I've heard we were sniffing around Ryan Sessegnon.

[RVclaret]

There is a left back in the building, think it is Manning but not sure as I've heard we were sniffing around Ryan Sessegnon.

Either would be good signings.

[gandhisflipflop]

Not seen anything of manning but sessegnon is a good player who hasn’t hit the heights expected of him