Tresor

[Foshiznik]

What we know for a fact is:-

- He's somewhat match fit (although we don't know how match fit he actually is)
- He wanted to move to Ajax in the summer but it didn't occur.
- He was played against Reading, coming off the bench in the 87th minute and playing extra time.
- He was not selected in the squad for the Sunderland game.

Everything else, such as illness, injury, not wanting to play for Burnley, refusing to play for U21s, etc. is nothing but pure conjecture and should be assessed as nothing else. All this "it's clear he's not bothered" and "AP basically said" is speculative at best.

[NL Claret]

What we know for a fact is:-

- He's somewhat match fit (although we don't know how match fit he actually is)
- He wanted to move to Ajax in the summer but it didn't occur.
- He was played against Reading, coming off the bench in the 87th minute and playing extra time.
- He was not selected in the squad for the Sunderland game.

Everything else, such as illness, injury, not wanting to play for Burnley, refusing to play for U21s, etc. is nothing but pure conjecture and should be assessed as nothing else. All this "it's clear he's not bothered" and "AP basically said" is speculative at best.

An excellent summary of the thread, probably should be left now for the time being.

[Goliath]

Is he injured again? Just read the latest Burnley express article with Parker talking about getting Benson up to speed.

At the bottom it suggests Tresor is sidelined again. Hadn't heard that one.

[warksclaret]

Is he injured again? Just read the latest Burnley express article with Parker talking about getting Benson up to speed.

At the bottom it suggests Tresor is sidelined again. Hadn't heard that one.

You can see why our fans are so angry about his persistent absence

[dougcollins]

I'd love to see a list of all the recent issues that have sidelined him.

He's making Darren Anderton look reliable (there's one for the kids).

[Claret knight]

More chance of Lord Lucan on the team sheet

[burnley007]

I'd like to think that at some point we will find out the true story.
Our record signing and such a big star in Belgium, but we never get to see him, it's so odd.

[Whitgord]

It will be very odd if he isn’t sold in the next 6 hours. Probably nobody wants him.

[Andreshotboots]

I'd like to think that at some point we will find out the true story.
Our record signing and such a big star in Belgium, but we never get to see him, it's so odd.

I think we're getting pretty close to that time now.

Personally my patience is wearing thin. Yes I'm only a humble supporter, and I don't expect to hear his full medical history, but I think at least a general explanation as to his ever seeming absence wouldn't go a miss. He's gone from being one of a front 3 for the Belgian national team, to somebody his club manager seemingly doesn't even want to mention...All very bizarre.

[Guller Bull]

He’s gonna be great!

[DCWat]

If he’s not moved on today, he’s surely got to be dropped from the 25 man squad for the remainder of the season.

Pointless him being named if he’s unable or unwilling to play a part.

[Claretitus]

The guy is a fraud. Masquerading as a “ professional “ sportsman. He’s a joke.

[chekhov]

is there some appearance related payment that we have to make when he plays in the league? Maybe that’s why he only gets a game in the FA Cup.

[IanMcL]

is there some appearance related payment that we have to make when he plays in the league? Maybe that’s why he only gets a game in the FA Cup.

That may have some weight. If he has said he wants away, at some point, why would be pay an unnecessary add-on.

[NL Claret]

We go again, at least one poster got his Monday pm utc kicks.

[chekhov]

That may have some weight. If he has said he wants away, at some point, why would be pay an unnecessary add-on.

Thanks for the reply. Be interesting (if he’s still here) if he plays next Saturday.

[Goliath]

Is he injured again? Just read the latest Burnley express article with Parker talking about getting Benson up to speed.

At the bottom it suggests Tresor is sidelined again. Hadn't heard that one.

I'm none the wiser so I'm guessing nobody has any idea

[willsclarets]

Are there loan windows in Europe he can leave on after our deadline? So weird.

[Spike]

Rumour is he’s going Las Palmas not sure if it’s for Football or another holiday

[Conroysleftfoot]

Rumour is he’s going Las Palmas not sure if it’s for Football or another holiday

I thought he had been on holiday from the time he first signed for us.

[Quickenthetempo]

I'm flying home from Las Palmas Airport tomorrow so I will see if I see him.

[beddie]

I'm flying home from Las Palmas Airport tomorrow so I will see if I see him.

If you see him ask him his secret of such a miraculous recovery from both his injury and his illness.

[dvalley69]

Are there loan windows in Europe he can leave on after our deadline? So weird.

Turkey's doesn't close until next week apparently.

[dougcollins]

It'll be interesting to know what Mike's got lined up to sideline him until the next window.

[Buxtonclaret]

It'll be interesting to know what Mike's got lined up to sideline him until the next window.

Anything good out on Netflix?

[Bow]

It looks like we’re stuck with him for a while longer. He’s clearly nowhere near good enough for English football so until we can get someone to take him off our hands there’s not much we can do.

[Milltown1882]

Hopefully he gets a deal in Turkey before their window closes. Absolute waste of a wage.

[DCWat]

It looks like we’re stuck with him for a while longer. He’s clearly nowhere near good enough for English football so until we can get someone to take him off our hands there’s not much we can do.

Clearly nowhere near good enough for English football?

From his brief cameo, that wouldn’t be my assessment.

[Bow]

Clearly nowhere near good enough for English football?

From his brief cameo, that wouldn’t be my assessment.

The manager seems to think he’s not good enough

[Steddyman]

Hopefully he gets a deal in Turkey before their window closes. Absolute waste of a wage.

How? We can't do any more loans to European clubs now, and no club in Turkey could afford to take him on a permanent.

Get used to him, he is our player until the summer now.

[kentonclaret]

I don’t know about him playing in Turkey but we clearly seem to have been sold one.

[Milltown1882]

How? We can't do any more loans to European clubs now, and no club in Turkey could afford to take him on a permanent.

Get used to him, he is our player until the summer now.

Why can’t we loan him? We still have the capacity to loan another player out where windows are open as has been explained about 60 times on here today.

[KRBFC]

As said above, very strange his only appearance this season was in the FA Cup.

I believe deep down that Tresor isn’t being allowed to play by Pace because he doesn’t want to fork out more money in add ons. Pace went to a fan evening and tried to save face by shifting the blame on to Mike.

He’s clearly been fit enough to be involved for a long time, Parker said he was weeks away in September. Then recently what was Parker’s excuse? A bruised toe? That was weeks ago. Tresor made a difference off the bench in the cup then 6 days later he isn’t even on the bench for the league game?

Parker has been told not to play him and has strung us along for months hoping he’d be gone in January.

Why would multiple clubs be willing to take him the summer window if he wasn’t going to be fit until January? Makes no sense.

Why would Mike refuse to play in the league games but suddenly he’s happy to play in an FA Cup game with the second string side?

[Grimsdale]

As said above, very strange his only appearance this season was in the FA Cup.

I believe deep down that Tresor isn’t being allowed to play by Pace because he doesn’t want to fork out more money in add ons. Pace went to a fan evening and tried to save face by shifting the blame on to Mike.

He’s clearly been fit enough to be involved for a long time, Parker said he was weeks away in September. Then recently what was Parker’s excuse? A bruised toe? That was weeks ago. Tresor made a difference off the bench in the cup then 6 days later he isn’t even on the bench for the league game?

Parker has been told not to play him and has strung us along for months hoping he’d be gone in January.

Why would multiple clubs be willing to take him the summer window if he wasn’t going to be fit until January? Makes no sense.

Why would Mike refuse to play in the league games but suddenly he’s happy to play in an FA Cup game with the second string side?

That doesn't make sense to me. Why would Pace not want to pay the extra money for add ons when we're crying out for someone who can unlock defences? Surely we're talking about, what, a couple of million pounds or so? Is he that bad that we'd rather not play him but instead keep paying him his wage and have him take up a spot in our squad instead? He's made 16 league appearances so far for us, doesn't that sound like rather a strange number to include in an add on clause - we have to pay extra as soon as he plays 17 league games? Rather a random number don't you think.

Also you say he’s clearly been fit enough to be involved for a long time - if so, why has there been absolutely zero interest in him this transfer window? Surely his agent would have been trying to flog him to all and sundry if he was fit.

I'm with you in not buying the narrative that he's unhappy and is refusing to play - like you say, why would he have played in the cup game if that was the case. Also for those who were saying he looked disinterested in that game, there were at least four occasions when he was in space with his arm raised asking for the ball to be played to him - that doesn't look like someone who isn't interested, in fact I would say it's the complete opposite.

My own theory (based on nothing but pure speculation) is that he still hasn't got over whatever illness he had and it is taking a lot longer than anticipated to clear up. You could see from the Reading game, he made a couple of sprints down the wing and the next thing he was bent over double trying to catch his breath and after that he could barely run. You could say that's down to a lack on match fitness but surely any professional athlete should be able to run more that that without looking they're about to keel over. The fact that he's not been seen in the recent training videos may be because he is still trying to build up his stamina before he can train fully with the team. As I said, that's just my theory though.

[willsclarets]

That doesn't make sense to me. Why would Pace not want to pay the extra money for add ons when we're crying out for someone who can unlock defences? Surely we're talking about, what, a couple of million pounds or so? Is he that bad that we'd rather not play him but instead keep paying him his wage and have him take up a spot in our squad instead? He's made 16 league appearances so far for us, doesn't that sound like rather a strange number to include in an add on clause - we have to pay extra as soon as he plays 17 league games? Rather a random number don't you think.

Also you say he’s clearly been fit enough to be involved for a long time - if so, why has there been absolutely zero interest in him this transfer window? Surely his agent would have been trying to flog him to all and sundry if he was fit.

I'm with you in not buying the narrative that he's unhappy and is refusing to play - like you say, why would he have played in the cup game if that was the case. Also for those who were saying he looked disinterested in that game, there were at least four occasions when he was in space with his arm raised asking for the ball to be played to him - that doesn't look like someone who isn't interested, in fact I would say it's the complete opposite.

My own theory (based on nothing but pure speculation) is that he still hasn't got over whatever illness he had and it is taking a lot longer than anticipated to clear up. You could see from the Reading game, he made a couple of sprints down the wing and the next thing he was bent over double trying to catch his breath and after that he could barely run. You could say that's down to a lack on match fitness but surely any professional athlete should be able to run more that that without looking they're about to keel over. The fact that he's not been seen in the recent training videos may be because he is still trying to build up his stamina before he can train fully with the team. As I said, that's just my theory though.

I tend to agree, but the one thing that baffles me is he was set to go to Ajax in the last window. He presumably had the same problems then as now e.g we knew about the illness. It's a really strange one. Perhaps something has come to light since then regarding his health.

The other thing is perhaps we have a deal in place with ajax that sees tresor go to Ajax in summer depending on certain criteria, and the young winger is part of the deal. Again all guesses

[RVclaret]

I just think he hasn’t been training well and hasn’t fit in with the rest of the group. I’d heard he had been struggling to arrive on time. As well, Parker has regularly spoken about having a group of men that will run through brick walls for him. Unfortunately I don’t think Tresor fits in that category. He’s even not training again now (injury or illness, not sure).

[clarets1978]

I tend to agree, but the one thing that baffles me is he was set to go to Ajax in the last window. He presumably had the same problems then as now e.g we knew about the illness. It's a really strange one. Perhaps something has come to light since then regarding his health.

The other thing is perhaps we have a deal in place with ajax that sees tresor go to Ajax in summer depending on certain criteria, and the young winger is part of the deal. Again all guesses

Or perhaps he got a new illness after the summer window Surprised no one has considered that instead of throwing pelters at him without the facts

[aggi]

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He’s clearly been fit enough to be involved for a long time, Parker said he was weeks away in September. Then recently what was Parker’s excuse? A bruised toe? That was weeks ago. Tresor made a difference off the bench in the cup then 6 days later he isn’t even on the bench for the league game?

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I don't think that FA cup game was any indicator of his level of fitness

[Woodleyclaret]

Time to cut our losses and give him a free.VKs last joke played on us needs to finish

[willsclarets]

Or perhaps he got a new illness after the summer window Surprised no one has considered that instead of throwing pelters at him without the facts

Yeah maybe who knows. I'm certainly not having a go at Tresor, I wish he was part of things even if a 15 min sub. But he's obviously not match ready whether that's been illness, injury, attitude or a combination of those

[KRBFC]

That doesn't make sense to me. Why would Pace not want to pay the extra money for add ons when we're crying out for someone who can unlock defences? Surely we're talking about, what, a couple of million pounds or so?

The same reason we haven’t bought a striker during January and the same reason almost every signing this season has been a loan deal with obligation to buy (if we go up)

[RVclaret]

The same reason we haven’t bought a striker during January and the same reason almost every signing this season has been a loan deal with obligation to buy (if we go up)

Hannibal we have paid for. Flemming is an obligation regardless if we go up. Humphreys was reported an obligation regardless. Pires and Hountondji paid for. Sonne. Probably £35m there but otherwise accurate from you again.

[AfloatinClaret]

I'm none the wiser so I'm guessing nobody has any idea

Agreed, but we don't need to worry as there are plenty on here who can explain it to us; when's having no idea ever stopped them?

[warksclaret]

I just think he hasn’t been training well and hasn’t fit in with the rest of the group. I’d heard he had been struggling to arrive on time. As well, Parker has regularly spoken about having a group of men that will run through brick walls for him. Unfortunately I don’t think Tresor fits in that category. He’s even not training again now (injury or illness, not sure).

Having seen him a few times I dont think he could run through a paper bag. Started off well at Reading then looked shagged for the last 15 minutes.

[Rileybobs]

I think it's quite likely that the issue is contractual, and that it doesn't allow Tresor to play in the Championship.

[warksclaret]

I thought this was one of Barnes's jobs to "sort him out"

[bodge]

Given that Barnes wasted the entire Luton coaching staff in the tunnel a few years ago, then he is well equipped to deal with Mike if needs be.

[KRBFC]

Hannibal we have paid for. Flemming is an obligation regardless if we go up. Humphreys was reported an obligation regardless. Pires and Hountondji paid for. Sonne. Probably £35m there but otherwise accurate from you again.

Fake news

[fidelcastro]

I think it's quite likely that the issue is contractual, and that it doesn't allow Tresor to play in the Championship.

Surely we should have been told that by now if it was true?

If you're right, then Pace was lying through his teeth at the fans' forum!

[TheFamilyCat]

Tonight's the night. Tresor & Edwards to unleash hell.