Immature display

[Colburn_Claret]

Far too passive, in a game we need to catch up.
We've picked up lately, but today we never quite seemed up for it, waiting for something rather than creating something.

My memory might be foggy, but all these 0-0 draws, where we hardly look like scoring, I can't remember coming out 2nd half and looking like we've changed anything. No subs, no change of formation, no change of intent, we just plod on fingers crossed.
We have players who we know can look fantastic one match, and average the next, no complaints it's just what we should expect at this level, but why with our strength on the bench do we fail to see it isn't happening for these players, let's change it.

[DanH90]

I think it's really strange that sp doesn't play foster in his strongest position at no9 it's not fair on the lad, and I know Fleming has scored a few but Everyone can see he is no centre forward but sp is persistent in his tactics and will not change the system or personel hence why we continue to struggle in front of goal . Should of scored today though.

I must be the only Burnley fan who thinks Flemming is definitely more of a 9 than a 10. None of his attributes are those of a 10. He holds the ball better than any of our others, is strong, heads the ball well and links the play. Foster doesn’t play well back to goal and is better running onto balls, but hasn’t scored since August. Foster out, Edwards in for me.

[Andreshotboots]

Had a very different view today as I was with my son in the Sir Tom Finney Stand. Scrappy game, the ref seemed to totally lose control, we missed 3 sitters, and somehow managed to get in each others way from a free kick which would have resulted in a free header.

A lot different from the chanceless 0 0s earlier in the season, just didn't take the chances...

[blatherwickstattoos]

We attacked today

How many saves did their keeper make ?

[Row x]

How many saves did their keeper make ?

Didn't need to, because we missed 3 gilt edged chances, but doesn't mean we didn't attack.

[Goliath]

We attacked today

Until about minute 60. Then our attacks became hoof it hope we win the ball try to play from there without much thought or strategy and maybe wi will win out of desperation. Basically like every game where it's been 0 0 going in to the last half an hour.

In reality that's the big difference between Dyche and Kompanys side. When those 2 teams were needing a goal they would uo the tempo, maintain pressure and look for different ways to get through teams.
This team just loses all control, panics and just looks more and more desperate. How many injury time goals have we had this season not including penalties. I can't think of many which is a pretty shocking stat for a team that's had so many 0 0s and is chasing promotion. There's clearly an issue in the way we Try to chase goals late in games. I must be imagining it though because everything is fine according to most on here

[CoolClaret]

Until about minute 60. Then our attacks became hoof it hope we win the ball try to play from there without much thought or strategy and maybe wi will win out of desperation. Basically like every game where it's been 0 0 going in to the last half an hour.

In reality that's the big difference between Dyche and Kompanys side. When those 2 teams were needing a goal they would uo the tempo, maintain pressure and look for different ways to get through teams.
This team just loses all control, panics and just looks more and more desperate. How many injury time goals have we had this season not including penalties. I can't think of many which is a pretty shocking stat for a team that's had so many 0 0s and is chasing promotion. There's clearly an issue in the way we Try to chase goals late in games. I must be imagining it though because everything is fine according to most on here

They nearly scored an OG from a zipped cross across the box late on, and we also had a pretty clear penalty shout in the late stages of the game.

[Goliath]

They nearly scored an OG from a zipped cross across the box late on, and we also had a pretty clear penalty shout in the late stages of the game.

That's it? A near og and a correctly given non penalty in the last half hour of a game we really needed to win. I stand corrected (said the man in the orthopaedic shoes)

[Row x]

That's it? A near og and a correctly given non penalty in the last half hour of a game we really needed to win. I stand corrected (said the man in the orthopaedic shoes)

Even if it wasn't a pen, we were still attacking in a dangerous position as a result of good football

[CoolClaret]

That's it? A near og and a correctly given non penalty in the last half hour of a game we really needed to win. I stand corrected (said the man in the orthopaedic shoes)

We made changes (ok, some debate on if they were the right ones), which we haven't had the luxury of doing all year to try and impact the game.

Of course we looked desperate - any time gunning for a goal does.

We converted many draws to wins under VK because of the players we could bring on at 70 minutes. We now have the ability to do that as well with our bench, which we very nearly did.

[Goliath]

We made changes (ok, some debate on if they were the right ones), which we haven't had the luxury of doing all year to try and impact the game.

Of course we looked desperate - any time gunning for a goal does.

We converted many draws to wins under VK because of the players we could bring on at 70 minutes. We now have the ability to do that as well with our bench, which we very nearly did.

Any team does? No teams that are good at it , build pressure and pen teams in basically suffocating them whilst consistently feeding their creative players. How often did we feed Edwards in that last 20 minutes.

Kompanys side were brilliant at it not just because of personnel but through the managers attitude. He encouraged goals, he made different changes depending on the game and he flooded the side with attacking creative players but with balance.

Dyche did similar in getting attacking players on the pitch. Giving wingers slightly more freedom and getting balls in the box.

There's a reason this team doesn't get enough late goals, it's not coincidence or bad luck.

[Row x]

Any team does? No teams that are good at it , build pressure and pen teams in basically suffocating them whilst consistently feeding their creative players. How often did we feed Edwards in that last 20 minutes.

Kompanys side were brilliant at it not just because of personnel but through the managers attitude. He encouraged goals, he made different changes depending on the game and he flooded the side with attacking creative players but with balance.

Dyche did similar in getting attacking players on the pitch. Giving wingers slightly more freedom and getting balls in the box.

There's a reason this team doesn't get enough late goals, it's not coincidence or bad luck.

Should have scored a late goal at Hull, and home To stoke off the top of my head, probably been others, so we are still trying, but bad finishing is letting us down

[CoolClaret]

Any team does? No teams that are good at it , build pressure and pen teams in basically suffocating them whilst consistently feeding their creative players. How often did we feed Edwards in that last 20 minutes.

Kompanys side were brilliant at it not just because of personnel but through the managers attitude. He encouraged goals, he made different changes depending on the game and he flooded the side with attacking creative players but with balance.

Dyche did similar in getting attacking players on the pitch. Giving wingers slightly more freedom and getting balls in the box.

There's a reason this team doesn't get enough late goals, it's not coincidence or bad luck.

The reason this team doesn't score goals is because there isn't any goalscorers in the side.

None of the players, Flemming aside, has scored more than 10 goals in a season in the past 5 seasons.

[stateofthenation]

Awful performance again, far too negative. We WILL NOT go up automatically this season, we are not good enough. Not bringing in a striker in January has more or less confirmed that.

Lyle Foster - what can I say? Worst signing we’ve made bar Tresor? All that money spent on him and he’s absolutely dross.

Ref was crap.

Rant over.

I agree apart from Foster, not the worst signing ever, but we have been robbed. How anyone can think this guy was going to be a premiership worthy striker is beyond me.

[Murger]

The reason this team doesn't score goals is because there isn't any goalscorers in the side.

None of the players, Flemming aside, has scored more than 10 goals in a season in the past 5 seasons.

If only there was a window in which we could sign a striker.

[Goliath]

The reason this team doesn't score goals is because there isn't any goalscorers in the side.

None of the players, Flemming aside, has scored more than 10 goals in a season in the past 5 seasons.

Partially but that's also slightly disingenuous. Foster could comfortably have reached ten last season but for his issues in a much more difficult league.
Didnt Benson get more than 10 2 seasons ago? Parker didn't bring him on.
Isn't Redmond known to be a decent goal threat? Not in the squad.
We know Barnes can knick goals semi regularly...didn't come on.

However Josh Laurent played 90 minutes alongside Cullen.

[blatherwickstattoos]

We won’t be going up

[Row x]

Partially but that's also slightly disingenuous. Foster could comfortably have reached ten last season but for his issues in a much more difficult league.
Didnt Benson get more than 10 2 seasons ago? Parker didn't bring him on.
Isn't Redmond known to be a decent goal threat? Not in the squad.
We know Barnes can knick goals semi regularly...didn't come on.

However Josh Laurent played 90 minutes alongside Cullen.

If you're hanging your hat on the 3 you mention then you'll continue to be disappointed

[CoolClaret]

Partially but that's also slightly disingenuous. Foster could comfortably have reached ten last season but for his issues in a much more difficult league.
Didnt Benson get more than 10 2 seasons ago? Parker didn't bring him on.
Isn't Redmond known to be a decent goal threat? Not in the squad.
We know Barnes can knick goals semi regularly...didn't come on.

However Josh Laurent played 90 minutes alongside Cullen.

Did Foster reach 10 last season?

Apologies, Benson scored 11, a lot of them wonder goals. There's an argument to bring him on but where'd you have played him?

Redmond has been injured pretty much all year. Has't been a regular scorer in 2-3 years.
Barnes I wanted to come on, but for a different reason.

Nothing disingenuous at all. We do not have goalscorers in our side, it has been evident for a while.

Even in the 22-23 season, we looked pretty ordinary in games when Tella didn't play, particularly at the end of the season.

[Row x]

We won’t be going up

That's the spirit...you weren't one of the lads who arrived half way through the first half, who moaned for 15 mins, went for a drink or 6 at halftime, then left without returning from the concourse, were you?

[agreenwood]

Thought we played pretty well against a physical Preston side.

We carved out three glorious chances and limited them to very little.

Yes, we’d benefit from having a goalscorer in the team, but it wasn’t a bad performance.

[agreenwood]

I like this Burnley team…. They look like a Burnley team should. They work hard, they’re a proper team, they’re good characters. Fine margins today too many big chances missed. But that’s football.

This. I’ve grown to like this squad.

We need more goals, aye, but I like them.

[helmclaret]

Amazing this reaction. A point away, in a Derby, and people are furious. Get a life.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Again subs were made too late. Poor first half bit better second and a striker so badly out of form he missed two open nets.

[DCWat]

I can see why Laurent was played, against a physical side, but I think he’d have played had it not been against such a team.

He has his strengths and I’ve been pleasantly surprised with how well he’s done this season. What he doesn’t bring to the game is quality forward passing - quite a lot breaks down or goes back with him.

He feels a safe option, one that has contributed well to our ridiculously good defence but might be part of the cause of our attacking frustrations.

I’d thought that Shelvey might have been brought in to bring the elements that Laurent lacks, to the team.

[Boss Hogg]

As always, a big game comes along and we decide to go far too over protective as the game goes on.

We got rattled and dragged into the game Preston wanted and by the end were just lumping it into the box from anywhere.
That was a poor performance that will be covered up by a refereeing display that was nowhere near as bad as made out. The decision on the Edwards non penalty looked like an incredible good spot for one .

We have great strength in depth and instead of looking to change things we just go like for like, leave on Anthony who I thought was atrocious along with Laurent who is literally there just for his physique.

I'm sure I'll get criticised but this isn't good enough. I don't care if we cruised by Hull and Plymouth with some lovely stuff. When the going gets tough this team goes into defensive mode and starts to lose the midfield, it's happened enough now to show it's not coincidence.

For me that front 3 has let this team down all season and will continue to do so. Each one of them has terrible numbers for the season but we continue to stick them out there week after week expecting something to change- it won't, unless we change that forward line we don't finish top 2. It's dead simple

Anthony was superb for me against Hull but each to their own.

[colne-claret]

I agree apart from Foster, not the worst signing ever, but we have been robbed. How anyone can think this guy was going to be a premiership worthy striker is beyond me.

In terms of money spent, he’s up there.

[Row x]

No. You maggot

I didn't mean to like post
Hit wrong button whilst trying to report the post

[Goliath]

Anthony was superb for me against Hull but each to their own.

That's the problem with him. He occasionally has a really good game against a crap team. He's just not capable of doing it consistently so what's the actual point. We already know he can't hit the numbers we need him to

[Flying Without Ings]

First time having a look at this forum in a long time. Good to see the longstanding traditions of bed-wetting are still upheld.

[Vim Fuego]

Thought we played pretty well against a physical Preston side.

We carved out three glorious chances and limited them to very little.

Yes, we’d benefit from having a goalscorer in the team, but it wasn’t a bad performance.

Agree with with this. And also your other post about growing to like this squad. Spot on for me. I have really grown to like our manager too and the way he conducts himself and is building things

[blatherwickstattoos]

Easily pleased some people. Preston are woeful. We will be so far behind in the prem under pragmatic parker.

[dandeclaret]

He's not a Burnley player in a million years. Bournemouth suits him down to the ground.

The immature display is much more evident in this board than it was on the pitch at deepdale.

[expoultryboy]

"We're not going up " and then " we'll be do far behind in the prem " in your next post !! So are we going up or not ?

[beddie]

I’ll be in the minority but I thought Flemming was bossed too easily today, Barnes for the last 15 minutes would have put their centre backs under more pressure.

[JohnMcGreal]

I’ll be in the minority but I thought Flemming was bossed too easily today, Barnes for the last 15 minutes would have put their centre backs under more pressure.

I thought their CBs had him in their pocket today. He was non-existent.

[ralph8]

Lack of a finisher all season has cost us dearly- even a 12 goal a season striker would have resulted in a lot more points on the board.
Shame we did not address the issue in the window.

[Roger1960]

Could be potentially a point gained, need a favour Off Luton-I am fully expecting Leeds to win Monday so could be a good result this.

It’s not a point gained the top 2 have won 5 of the last 6 matches we have won 3 the gap is getting 2 points bigger every time we draw

[boatshed bill]

I thought their CBs had him in their pocket today. He was non-existent.

He's not really a centre forward.

[billyhamilton82]

How would playing centrally have made any difference to the chances he missed today?

Confidence

Angle coming onto the ball

Body position

Familiarity

Centrally is actually his position.

What he is used to and why we paid the money for him.

Whatever the reason its not working currently for either Flemming or Foster so why not change it?

Its like asking Anthony to play centre forward, totally different skill set.

[blatherwickstattoos]

Didn't need to, because we missed 3 gilt edged chances, but doesn't mean we didn't attack.

We literally didn’t test their keeper

[Hibsclaret]

Angle coming onto the ball

Body position

Familiarity

Centrally is actually his position.

Not sure what any of these things have to do with anything. A proper goal scorer can score from any position with either foot. It’s a natural thing just like Austin or Payton had it. Foster can be coming onto the ball from any position and still look like he’s going to miss. He lacks predatory instinct which oozes out of proper goal scorers.

It makes it worse that he seems to find the space because tbh that’s a large chunk of the battle. You just can’t miss gilt edged chance after chance when you get there.

[Row x]

We literally didn’t test their keeper

At least you've stopped being abusive

You don't need to make the keeper to make saves to still be attacking. Missing easy chances, hitting the post, shots blocked, penalty claims. How many corners did we have? Difficult to get a corner unless you're attacking.

[blatherwickstattoos]

At least you've stopped being abusive

You don't need to make the keeper to make saves to still be attacking. Missing easy chances, hitting the post, shots blocked, penalty claims. How many corners did we have? Difficult to get a corner unless you're attacking.

Yeah sorry for the passive aggressive drunken rants. Just frustrating after watching that.

We need to shape up attacking. It’s so rigid

[dsr]

Lack of a finisher all season has cost us dearly- even a 12 goal a season striker would have resulted in a lot more points on the board.
Shame we did not address the issue in the window.

A 12 goal a season striker would do no good at all. We already have one in Flemming, and there is no way that Parker would pick Flemming and another forward to play together. If we played a different centre forward, then Flemming would be on the bench.

[dsr]

Until about minute 60. Then our attacks became hoof it hope we win the ball try to play from there without much thought or strategy and maybe wi will win out of desperation. Basically like every game where it's been 0 0 going in to the last half an hour.

In reality that's the big difference between Dyche and Kompanys side. When those 2 teams were needing a goal they would uo the tempo, maintain pressure and look for different ways to get through teams.
This team just loses all control, panics and just looks more and more desperate. How many injury time goals have we had this season not including penalties. I can't think of many which is a pretty shocking stat for a team that's had so many 0 0s and is chasing promotion. There's clearly an issue in the way we Try to chase goals late in games. I must be imagining it though because everything is fine according to most on here

One thing that top teams do is put the pressure on in the last few minutes and convert draws into wins. It's because they are better teams with better players and are playing with confidence and can change things up.

Burnley have gone into the last quarter hour at 0-0 twelve times this season. We've won just one of those twelve, when Swansea kindly gave us a penalty. If we want to look for reasons why we aren't in the top two, the extra points we aren't picking up in these games will be high on the list.

And Parker never changes things. We never bring on a second forward to try and force the issue. We play the same way for the last 15 as we play for the first 75, and no surprise we get the same result.

[Murger]

I wonder why no journalist has the balls to ask Parker why he’s so afraid of going for the win late on in games?

[Firthy]

Ref didn't help yesterday. Let Preston get away with far too much thuggery. We need a player who can actually get a shot on target. Parker needs to be more adventurous with substitutions later in game when game is a nailed on draw.

Apart from that we're fine.

[Goliath]

One thing that top teams do is put the pressure on in the last few minutes and convert draws into wins. It's because they are better teams with better players and are playing with confidence and can change things up.

Burnley have gone into the last quarter hour at 0-0 twelve times this season. We've won just one of those twelve, when Swansea kindly gave us a penalty. If we want to look for reasons why we aren't in the top two, the extra points we aren't picking up in these games will be high on the list.

And Parker never changes things. We never bring on a second forward to try and force the issue. We play the same way for the last 15 as we play for the first 75, and no surprise we get the same result.

Yep, it's probably the biggest problem. What we do in the first hour of games is fine. It's that last half hour, we become scared of losing the point and/or the clean sheet and freeze up.

In fact the Coyle team was also brilliant at getting those late goals. You'd expect a team like ours that is way better than the majority of the other sides in the division to be able to knock the door down late on pretty regularly if the mentality was there.

[NL Claret]

Didn’t take the click bait posters long to get their post match posts up. Looks like they have been well fed.