Injured Burnley fan.

[Sapperclaret73]

On the way to the ground yesterday, saw a fellow claret had tripped up. Looked to have hurt his hand and smashed his phone to bits. Looked in his 30’s and to be sober. Hope he’s ok.

Poor lad had a bad day with another 0-0.

[gandhisflipflop]

I saw a report of one of our own fans getting clobbered on the way out yesterday as he wasn’t walking down the steps fast enough. We really do have some vermin supporting our club.

[Jakubs Tash]

I saw a report of one of our own fans getting clobbered on the way out yesterday as he wasn’t walking down the steps fast enough. We really do have some vermin supporting our club.

Whatever happened here, happened just over my right shoulder (as I was sat/stood on the end of a row a few steps down from the incident). As it was over my shoulder I don’t know what actually happened - first I knew of it was when I unexpectedly got pushed into the row in front from the surge down the steps. As you say, there are some absolute clowns around.

I was sick to death of people barging into me to get down the stairs though! This was caused by a large number of people just being stood on the steps and clearly not at their designated seat. Another form of morons.

[Row x]

Whatever happened here, happened just over my right shoulder (as I was sat/stood on the end of a row a few steps down from the incident). As it was over my shoulder I don’t know what actually happened - first I knew of it was when I unexpectedly got pushed into the row in front from the surge down the steps. As you say, there are some absolute clowns around.

I was sick to death of people barging into me to get down the stairs though! This was caused by a large number of people just being stood on the steps and clearly not at their designated seat. Another form of morons.

I'm seriously contemplating giving away games a miss, I used to find them enjoyable, but now more and more I end up near a group of younger fans who have no consideration for others.
I left my toilet visit till after halftime yesterday only to be met by groups throwing beer about and trying to damage the signage

[bumba]

I'm seriously contemplating giving away games a miss, I used to find them enjoyable, but now more and more I end up near a group of younger fans who have no consideration for others.
I left my toilet visit till after halftime yesterday only to be met by groups throwing beer about and trying to damage the signage

Did you report it?
Did you ask them to stop?

[colne-claret]

Did you report it?
Did you ask them to stop?

Not everybody is going to tell a group of rowdy coked up aggressive young lads to stop. It’s not worth the hassle.

[Vegas Claret]

Did you report it?
Did you ask them to stop?

I would imagine it happened on the concourse with cctv cameras everywhere - they need a knock on the door and a bill for the damage.

[loganking222]

Not everybody is going to tell a group of rowdy coked up aggressive young lads to stop. It’s not worth the hassle.

Was going to say the same thing. People these days are too coward to argue/fight back on their own. They only do it as part of a group. You ask them to stop and Person 1 walks towads you only because 9 others are behind him.

[Row x]

Did you report it?
Did you ask them to stop?

No I didn't, I thought the 5 or 6 stewards stood watching might have done that, if that's ok?

[1989_claret]

The incident happened right next to me. There was a family of about 7 sat behind us but in just 3 toseats so they spread themselves into the aisle and down to my row and next to me.

People struggled to get past them all game and what I thought happened after the final whistle was a man fell forward and into another man who thought he’d pushed him so he turned round and started punching him.

Was awful to see to be honest as it seemed like a genuine mistake caused by some numpties standing in the aisle and not in their seats.

[Jimmymaccer]

The incident happened right next to me. There was a family of about 7 sat behind us but in just 3 toseats so they spread themselves into the aisle and down to my row and next to me.

People struggled to get past them all game and what I thought happened after the final whistle was a man fell forward and into another man who thought he’d pushed him so he turned round and started punching him.

Was awful to see to be honest as it seemed like a genuine mistake caused by some numpties standing in the aisle and not in their seats.

Must have been near me, a “family” initially stood in our seats when we arrived so they moved back a row, though what could have been daughter and another just stood in the isle mainly winging about another family member who’d peed them off. Spent most of the time just moaning about it. Plenty of others just stood in the aisle further up. Full time, the punch up happened as another group seemed to push forward the result being what appeared to be older blokes getting involved in a scuffle which didn’t seem to be their fault. We certainly have our share………….

[Casper2]

Was going to say the same thing. People these days are too coward to argue/fight back on their own. They only do it as part of a group. You ask them to stop and Person 1 walks towads you only because 9 others are behind him.

I blame social media (not joking) everyone so aggressive these days .

[Tricky Trevor]

I blame social media (not joking) everyone so aggressive these days .

The internet should have been one of the greatest inventions ever. Instead it has turned into a sh1t show of liars and bullies. Leading to aggression every where you go.
On top of the internet i’d list:
Eating garbage food
Breathing petrol fumes. It’s happening in every town or city without you knowing.
Lack of discipline from parents and schools(enforced by law)
Violent movies, that they see as the norm.

[durhamclaret]

I'm seriously contemplating giving away games a miss, I used to find them enjoyable, but now more and more I end up near a group of younger fans who have no consideration for others.
I left my toilet visit till after halftime yesterday only to be met by groups throwing beer about and trying to damage the signage

I’ve already given up on away games Rowx for the exact same reasons that you state, shame isn’t it?

[Jamesy]

My wife stopped accompanying me to away games two seasons ago because the experience at certain matches was becoming less and less enjoyable. We really do have some idiotic knuckle scrapers amongst our away support.

[Row x]

I’ve already given up on away games Rowx for the exact same reasons that you state, shame isn’t it?

It is.
I've followed Burnley away since the early 70s, but it's just not enjoyable any more, and when you can watch it on TV it makes the decision easier to make

[durhamclaret]

My wife stopped accompanying me to away games two seasons ago because the experience at certain matches was becoming less and less enjoyable. We really do have some idiotic knuckle scrapers amongst our away support.

We really do, what angers me most is that the so called safety stewards just stand there and do absolutely nothing, it’s an awful situation.

[Croydon Claret]

I stopped doing away matches also unless it's in the hospitality area, but that's a once a season thing due to the prices.

Haven't personally experienced any issues but I've seen things I didnt like the look of and I no longer wish to be in the vicinity of the white powder brigade. I wouldn't mix with them outside of football

[The Shire Claret]

Was always gonna have a good amount of idiots there yesterday but luckily did see out inside the stadium

I got delayed due to a car full of Burnley fans and a passer by almost having a punch up until the police turned up and temporarily closed the road

Why I prefer not to go to Horse Land

Brings out the worst and never understand how they manage to get tickets

[bfcjg]

I won't take my grandchildren to away games,they love it on the Turf and ask about aways but we just don't want them to witness things that would put them off the game.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Actually found it ok yesterday but probably down to the lunchtime kick off.

[taio]

Actually found it ok yesterday but probably down to the lunchtime kick off.

I thought it was mild too yesterday. Certainly in comparison to the Friday night game when Barton scored the deflected free kick. That was carnage.

[Quickenthetempo]

It can only be down to old age and less tolerance why posters on this thread have given up away games.

Away games aren't worse now than when you travelled the country, where violence happened at every game.

[ISpeds00]

I'D happily take the tickets off a few of the posters in here - no problems

[Tackler49]

I followed Clarets home and away through all the Hooliganism years with little or no trouble but what i read now about what happens at away matches it makes me think that maybe i am better giving them a miss. At the moment the only way that i can see the Clarets is at away games in the South/South West but if these morons are allowed to spoil things why should i go? I can take care of myself but i am now of an age where i think do i need the hassle, it also gives BFC a bad name too

[Claretitus]

Must admit, I’ve been thinking of not going away anymore, and Deepdale on Saturday will be my last. I got in the ground early, because my seat was on an aisle, which I’d asked for, and many times I’ve been told to “f**k off and sit anywhere, it’s an away game, sit where you can”. Well, as we all know, nobody sits down away, and to my immediate left, were about 5 seats, taken up by about 12 drunken, drug taking louts. I’m not going to put myself through it anymore, I’m done. I’m 64 years old, have been watching Burnley away since the mid 70’s, and that’s it. I’m out.

[Row x]

It can only be down to old age and less tolerance why posters on this thread have given up away games.

Away games aren't worse now than when you travelled the country, where violence happened at every game.

Can I suggest you read the thread before jumping to conclusions
Nobody mentioned violence being the problem yesterday

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Must admit, I’ve been thinking of not going away anymore, and Deepdale on Saturday will be my last. I got in the ground early, because my seat was on an aisle, which I’d asked for, and many times I’ve been told to “f**k off and sit anywhere, it’s an away game, sit where you can”. Well, as we all know, nobody sits down away, and to my immediate left, were about 5 seats, taken up by about 12 drunken, drug taking louts. I’m not going to put myself through it anymore, I’m done. I’m 64 years old, have been watching Burnley away since the mid 70’s, and that’s it. I’m out.

Think I was lucky as right in the corner on the dugout side and there were actually quite a few empty seats around us as I presume people were taking up areas in the middle. Always the problem when you compare to the old terrace days where at least you could move.

[Row x]

Must admit, I’ve been thinking of not going away anymore, and Deepdale on Saturday will be my last. I got in the ground early, because my seat was on an aisle, which I’d asked for, and many times I’ve been told to “f**k off and sit anywhere, it’s an away game, sit where you can”. Well, as we all know, nobody sits down away, and to my immediate left, were about 5 seats, taken up by about 12 drunken, drug taking louts. I’m not going to put myself through it anymore, I’m done. I’m 64 years old, have been watching Burnley away since the mid 70’s, and that’s it. I’m out.

Apparently it's down to your age why you won't put up with these louts. I can only assume quickenthetempo approves of this behaviour.

[Quickenthetempo]

Can I suggest you read the thread before jumping to conclusions
Nobody mentioned violence being the problem yesterday

I've read the thread and every incident mentioned has happened hundreds of times previously at away games.

As you get older you get less tolerant to these situations, including me.
If you were 25 you would just brush it off and be there next week.

[Quickenthetempo]

Apparently it's down to your age why you won't put up with these louts. I can only assume quickenthetempo approves of this behaviour.

So you don't want me to jump to conclusions but then jump to assumptions?

Nice one.

[Leon_C]

In the interests of balance, I took my 13yo old son to PNE yesterday. Train from Burnley (packed, standing room only.)
Walked to and from the ground, via the Greyfriars Wetherspoons (and Adelphi after the match).
The stadium experience for us (block L) was fine. Decent atmosphere, no problem with home or away fans, and there was no competition for seats.
The concourse is obviously rammed, but there was no behaviour that would put us off future away matches.
I understand that a negative experience far outweighs a neutral or positive one, but felt it important to add a different view.

[Casper2]

I've read the thread and every incident mentioned has happened hundreds of times previously at away games.

As you get older you get less tolerant to these situations, including me.
If you were 25 you would just brush it off and be there next week.

Disagree, I’ve never been tolerant of idiots .

[Claretitus]

Well good for you Leon. Glad you and your young lad enjoyed it. There’s lots more chances of you getting away tickets in future as lots of us “Silver Clarets” won’t be attending.

[ISpeds00]

There's nothing that would stop me going to see Burnley, outside or concourse - it's all part and parcel
The odd people use this platform as a place to winge

Nobody's arsed

[taio]

I've read the thread and every incident mentioned has happened hundreds of times previously at away games.

As you get older you get less tolerant to these situations, including me.
If you were 25 you would just brush it off and be there next week.

It's a fair point - I've had plenty of conversations with fellow supporters who have said they are less tolerant at away games owing to their age. To be fair, though, away games can also be more physically demanding with age, irrespective of their mental tolerance levels.

[Row x]

I've read the thread and every incident mentioned has happened hundreds of times previously at away games.

As you get older you get less tolerant to these situations, including me.
If you were 25 you would just brush it off and be there next week.

The violence you referred to earlier that used to happen was against opposition fans, it was easy to avoid. What's happening now is our own fans, and you cannot avoid it, as it's happening where you have been allocated to sit. If not being prepared to put up with drugged up, foul mouthed morons, spilling drinks and vaping all the time is being less tolerant then so be it, but what about the younger ones, with families, should they have to put up with it as well?

[Claretitus]

There's nothing that would stop me going to see Burnley, outside or concourse - it's all part and parcel
The odd people use this platform as a place to winge

Nobody's arsed

I’m arsed. That’s why I’ve decided not to bother anymore. If you’re prepared to put up with it, good for you. Don’t tell me nobody is arsed, when this thread clearly illustrates that people are.

[ISpeds00]

I’m arsed. That’s why I’ve decided not to bother anymore. If you’re prepared to put up with it, good for you. Don’t tell me nobody is arsed, when this thread clearly illustrates that people are.

99% arent arsed. they go and go again

[Claretitus]

99% arent arsed. they go and go again

Well bully for them. You sound like you’re all for it, probably one of the bell ends that are putting people off going.

[ISpeds00]

Well bully for them. You sound like you’re all for it, probably one of the bell ends that are putting people off going.

If i could get regular tickets, i'd go to most of the away games - i can't
Might be a good opportunity here though if a lot more are winging

[Quickenthetempo]

Disagree, I’ve never been tolerant of idiots .

At what age did you pack it in if you don't mind me asking?

[Claretitus]

Winging? Do you mean whinging? We’ve been going for donkeys years with no problems or trouble. Give these morons an ounce of Colombian marching powder, and they’re all giving it the big ‘un when there’s 12 of em, threatening pensioners. You’re welcome to it my friend, knock yourself out.

[Casper2]

At what age did you pack it in if you don't mind me asking?

I haven’t packed it in , tend to say something if I witness anything, the last bad one I witnessed was Villa away the 2-2 draw so some time ago.

[ISpeds00]

Winging? Do you mean whinging? We’ve been going for donkeys years with no problems or trouble. Give these morons an ounce of Colombian marching powder, and they’re all giving it the big ‘un when there’s 12 of em, threatening pensioners. You’re welcome to it my friend, knock yourself out.

Taking to a public forum to point out spelling errors, sums up the kind of people we are dealing with on here
Oh boo hoo, a general consensus of 60 plus males cant take going to a game anymore, because of a minority -

I've been going to games for the best part of 30 years and it's no different now to it was back then - every club is the same

[Quickenthetempo]

Has the seating plan not worked this season then?

I thought it worked well when it came out, older supporters being able to book seats at the front so they could sit and avoid young rapscallions.

[Devils_Advocate]

The violence you referred to earlier that used to happen was against opposition fans, it was easy to avoid. What's happening now is our own fans, and you cannot avoid it, as it's happening where you have been allocated to sit. If not being prepared to put up with drugged up, foul mouthed morons, spilling drinks and vaping all the time is being less tolerant then so be it, but what about the younger ones, with families, should they have to put up with it as well?

Look at you on this thread castigating some of our supporters because of the behaviour you've witnessed and being upset at anyone questioning your experience. Yet on another thread you were completely unwilling to accept someone else's lived experience that some of these fans who you describe as drugged up morons could also be racist

You're not the only one though as we've got the idiot flipflop happy to call our fans vermin but at the same time get really defensive that theses vermin fans could possibly also be racist

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Taking to a public forum to point out spelling errors, sums up the kind of people we are dealing with on here
Oh boo hoo, a general consensus of 60 plus males cant take going to a game anymore, because of a minority -

I've been going to games for the best part of 30 years and it's no different now to it was back then - every club is the same

Actually think it’s tamer to watching Burnley away in the 80’s and 90’s!!

[Wembley09]

It can only be down to old age and less tolerance why posters on this thread have given up away games.

Away games aren't worse now than when you travelled the country, where violence happened at every game.

I remember when we played Preston away back in 2002 ish, it was a 5:30 Saturday Evening Sky game.

Not sure if I remember correctly, but didn't the game have a small delay due to the Burnley fans and stewards at the front of the stand?

I definitely remember there was some nasty scenes there, clear for everyone to see on the TV. Kicking off like crazy at the front of that Burnley stand, took them a while to get the Burnley fans under control.

Pretty sure ever since then.. the police would not allow any more late weekend kick-offs for Burnley at Deepdale to deter the Burnley fans from getting too drunk.

I believe the following one was even moved to a dinner time kick-off on police advise/it wasn't on telly. The crazy 5-3 or something game, when Ricardo Fuller ran rings around us.

That said, I have to say that I feel less comfortable on away games than I used. Mainly due to the coked up young lads at away games these days.
The nationwide lack of discipline to kids also makes me more cautious.. they do what they want these days.

[LincsWoldsClaret]

It’s increasingly difficult to justify the time and expense to go to an away game - generally it’s an unpleasant experience- regardless of the football - all we want to do is support our team and watch the match - it shouldn’t be such a challenge