Venky's are a disgrace

[StuWestMidsClaret]

Man Utd failed to win a League title for 26 years from 1967-1993. They are now 12 years without a title. Are they back at their 'natural level' now? Did they just get 'lucky' with Fergie?

Chelsea were a cup team before Roman Abramovic. They are now struggling and losing to all and sundry. Are they back at their 'natural level' now? Did they just get lucky with Abramovic?

If the answer to the above is no, then why is it a different standard for Blackburn? Their fans have every right to be ****** off about what Venky's have done to the club since 2010. It's not about the Premier League title, that was a one off for Blackburn. It's about their Premier League status being so callously thrown away.

If you mention the name Blackburn Rovers anywhere around the world, blather, people will tell you 'Premier League'. That's the recognition they have. That doesn't fit the description of 'nobodies' in the game. PNE, certainly. Blackburn, absolutely not.

Kids this is EXACTLY why you should never take drugs.
What a donut.

[Somethingfishy]

If you mention the name Blackburn Rovers anywhere around the world they laugh, blather, people will tell you 'Who?'. That's the recognition they have. That fits the description of 'nobodies' in the game. PNE, certainly. Blackburn, absolutely definitely.

There you go. Fact checked and fixed for you.

[cbx750]

Chelsea were a cup team before Roman Abramovic. They are now struggling and losing to all and sundry. Are they back at their 'natural level' now? Did they just get lucky with Abramovic?

Before Abramovic they had Matthew Harding, before him they weren't up to much.

[Durban]

Still waiting for a name Hutchy.

Is there a rumour you don’t believe as gospel?

My guess, given you clearly have no knowledge prior to 1992, is that you’re mid 30s, still live at home with your Mum and have a poster of David Batty on your wall with some questionable stains upon it.

Revel in these moments, breathe it in, because it won’t be long before you’re telling your offspring of the ‘draw of 2024’, and watching your heroes of the Championship, Danny Bathh, Lewis Travis and the like, as you trudge off to Stevenage on a Wednesday night.

No history without a benefactor.

[Somethingfishy]

Still waiting for a name Hutchy.

Is there a rumour you don’t believe as gospel?

My guess, given you clearly have no knowledge prior to 1992, is that you’re mid 30s, still live at home with your Mum and have a poster of David Batty on your wall with some questionable stains upon it.

Revel in these moments, breathe it in, because it won’t be long before you’re telling your offspring of the ‘draw of 2024’, and watching your heroes of the Championship, Danny Bathh, Lewis Travis and the like, as you trudge off to Stevenage on a Wednesday night.

No history without a benefactor.

Indeed. They have a benefactor right now as we know. Their issue is that they aren't the funding multi million transfers type benefactor that buys them out of the league with someone elses money. That is what they think is wrong with Venkys really. They cite lack of investment whilst attracting pathetic attendances. Whoppers.
Like I said before...until they can stand on their own two feet/cut their cloth (without Venkys keeping them afloat) and then surpass us I won't take them seriously and I doubt many of us will. We've got to the prem under our own steam the first time..and the second time realistically and then been wise to reinvest the money and rebuild everytime we have fallen. They even have the gall to whinge about us receiving parachute payments with zero sense of irony

[Quicknick]

Indeed. They have a benefactor right now as we know. Their issue is that they aren't the funding multi million transfers type benefactor that buys them out of the league with someone elses money. That is what they think is wrong with Venkys really. They cite lack of investment whilst attracting pathetic attendances. Whoppers.
Like I said before...until they can stand on their own two feet/cut their cloth (without Venkys keeping them afloat) and then surpass us I won't take them seriously and I doubt many of us will. We've got to the prem under our own steam the first time..and the second time realistically and then been wise to reinvest the money and rebuild everytime we have fallen. They even have the gall to whinge about us receiving parachute payments with zero sense of irony

I agree with all this apart from the 'pathetic attendances'. I remember we had some low attendances in our 2013-14 promotion.

[mickleoverclaret]

Chelsea were a cup team before Roman Abramovic. They are now struggling and losing to all and sundry. Are they back at their 'natural level' now? Did they just get lucky with Abramovic?

This is such a stupid thing to say that i'm actually now wondering if you're a Burnley fan pretending to be a Blackburn fan pretending to be a Burnley fan, just to make the Rovers fans who come out with this sort of stuff look really daft.

[Bordeauxclaret]

It's not often I post on here due to the incessant barrage of complete nonsense. If tonights result is anything to go by perhaps he might be privately wishing he hadn't.

Sounds like something Hutchy would have posted.

[bfcjg]

Hutchy wrote: "↑If you mention the name Blackburn Rovers anywhere around the world, blather, people will tell you 'Premier League'. That's the recognition they have."

My experience is " who " ?

[Stonehouse]

Finally he couldn’t resist it any longer Hutchy the double ,double ,double agent has finally started arguing like a true ******* ,I reckon he’s really Simon the Snake Garner.

[bfcjg]

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Somebody get Hutchy some gripe water before he fits.

[Somethingfishy]

I agree with all this apart from the 'pathetic attendances'. I remember we had some low attendances in our 2013-14 promotion.

I agree but they have zero sense of economic reality it seems. They question why the Wharton money wasn't reinvested. It was used to plug the gap in finances/pay the wages of their current squad. A squad that realistically is beyond their means.
They are already being bankrolled. Just not to the distorted extent they wish...and therein lies the problem with their attitude. It's ingrained in them.

[Conroy92]

Sunderland had an operating loss of £9m for the year end July 2023. Why aren't their 'massive' crowds helping them in this regard?

The fact of the matter is that every club in the Championship requires funding from its owners to cover losses. This isn't exclusive to Blackburn. Look through the whole Division. They are all making losses.

If that is the case then bad ownership of a championship club must be not covering losses. It could be worse for you Iif this was the case.

I also think your extremely thick. While trying to make out Venkys are the worst basket case out there, you've then gone on to admit that all championship clubs are making losses- so why do you deem yours the worst.

Your posts exposes you for what you are. An entitled baby who thinks bastards deserve the prem.

With or without Venkys you would have eventually fallen out the division. You got lucky someone's funding you still to keep the lights on never mind compete.

[Ampth7]

It's not often I post on here due to the incessant barrage of complete nonsense. If tonights result is anything to go by perhaps he might be privately wishing he hadn't.

No doubt that has gone through his mind, however, for some reason he decided he wanted to leave, so what does that say about the state Rovers must be in!

[bfcmik]

I feel so sorry for them https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1WxVz3XADp/

[boyyanno]

Man Utd failed to win a League title for 26 years from 1967-1993. They are now 12 years without a title. Are they back at their 'natural level' now? Did they just get 'lucky' with Fergie?

Chelsea were a cup team before Roman Abramovic. They are now struggling and losing to all and sundry. Are they back at their 'natural level' now? Did they just get lucky with Abramovic?

If the answer to the above is no, then why is it a different standard for Blackburn? Their fans have every right to be ****** off about what Venky's have done to the club since 2010. It's not about the Premier League title, that was a one off for Blackburn. It's about their Premier League status being so callously thrown away.

If you mention the name Blackburn Rovers anywhere around the world, blather, people will tell you 'Premier League'. That's the recognition they have. That doesn't fit the description of 'nobodies' in the game. PNE, certainly. Blackburn, absolutely not.

This gave me a proper chuckle.

Man United

Blackburn are ****

[IPAclaret]

Hutchy is just another classic example of the delusions that run deep amongst the bturds

its been said on her numerous times, something like 8 seasons in the top flights in 45 years before uncle jack came along, the rest of that time spent in the old 2nd and 3rd divisions

so they're back where they were in the 80s (when the riverside was falling down and they didn't have a pot to pi-ss in)

same old bturds, always spending huge amounts of other peoples money and then whining for more and more

UTC

[Bosscat]

Hutchy is just another classic example of the delusions that run deep amongst the bturds

its been said on her numerous times, something like 8 seasons in the top flights in 45 years before uncle jack came along, the rest of that time spent in the old 2nd and 3rd divisions

so they're back where they were in the 80s (when the riverside was falling down and they didn't have a pot to pi-ss in)

same old bturds, always spending huge amounts of other peoples money and then whining for more and more

UTC

The Riverside is still sinking only a few years ago the river flooded the drainage system and sewerage covered the pitch oh hang on .... Sewerage is on the pitch every home game

[Jakubclaret]

No doubt that has gone through his mind, however, for some reason he decided he wanted to leave, so what does that say about the state Rovers must be in!

That's partly true but geographically speaking I read somewhere he lives not far away like a 20 min journey & without reasonable doubt he'll be on more money. No brainer really that said I don't think he was backed enough with the Wharton money & szmodics incoming money despite the claims of significance investment. When all said & done apart from the play off picture you are struggling to come up with reasons why he would stay.

[FulledgeClaret]

Four consortiums have approached Venky's within the last 18 months. Two American, one British, One Middle Eastern. All have been turned down. This is from somebody close to the club.

Aaron Paul on the EFL 72 Podcast revealed last night that he knows somebody who approached Venky's two months ago offering to buy Rovers. He was flatly refused. Not for sale. That's five different parties that are interested in buying Blackburn. All of them can afford to cover the losses.

I'm not sure where this idea is coming from on here that it's Venky's or bust for them. As if they are the only owners in world football that can do what they are doing losses wise and without them Blackburn are finished. This is nonsense. There are very wealthy people out there that want to own Blackburn Rovers. The 10th most successful club in England and you think it Venky's or bust? Give over. When new owners do come in over there and they are back in the Premier League I hope some of you think back to this post.

what if one of these consortiums buys the club and run it as a business to make money (not all millionaires/billionaires are willing to throw their wealth away) and do enough to keep the lights and on make a profit but nothing more, Roverrrs become a team that bounce around the championship/league 1 without really having much chance of premier league football without a lucky break ala us and Coyle but the flip side is its a well run club showing a profit year on year, will Bstard fans be happy then or will it be more of the same whining about bad owners and how they want them out because they won't throw their millions away trying to get back to the prem where spending 100-200m guarantees nothing.

[Bullabill]

The Riverside is still sinking only a few years ago the river flooded the drainage system and sewerage covered the pitch oh hang on .... Sewerage is on the pitch every home game

Sewage Boss. Sewerage is the pipes,etc that contain the sewage.

[AfloatinClaret]

... a well run club showing a profit year on year, will Bstard fans be happy then or will it be more of the same whining about bad owners and how they want them out because they won't throw their millions away trying to get back to the prem where spending 100-200m guarantees nothing.

What' do you mean just like the majority of posters on here were during Mike Garlick's tenure?

[Herts Clarets]

What' do you mean just like the majority of posters on here were during Mike Garlick's tenure?

Only towards the end when it became clear he prioritised personal gain over the club remaining in the Premier league

[Hutchy]

If that is the case then bad ownership of a championship club must be not covering losses. It could be worse for you Iif this was the case.

I also think your extremely thick. While trying to make out Venkys are the worst basket case out there, you've then gone on to admit that all championship clubs are making losses- so why do you deem yours the worst.

Your posts exposes you for what you are. An entitled baby who thinks bastards deserve the prem.

With or without Venkys you would have eventually fallen out the division. You got lucky someone's funding you still to keep the lights on never mind compete.

I don't think so, Conroy. Posters on here are praising Venky's for being generous and fantastic owners BECAUSE they are covering those losses and have done for 12 years or so. "I wish we had somebody putting in £10m-15m a year" etc. My point is that, almost every Championship club is making losses that are being covered by their owners. Hence, what Venky's are doing is not something special or out of the ordinary. Yet people are using this point to say Rovers fan should be grateful and are spoilt and so on. Not true, as those owners have played a major part in causing such losses in the first place and have taken down an established Premier League outfit. They have made no attempt in 12 years to return Blackburn back to the top flight, so their fans have every right to be angry and to want those owners gone. The same thing would be happening here amongst Clarets if the roles were reversed.

As for "they would have gone down anyway eventually". That's wishful thinking. The reality is they achieved a 10th place finish in the Prem and reached the semi finals of the League Cup in 2010, all a matter of months before Venky's turned up. That was not a club in danger of relegation. They were two years away from a major Sky broadcasting deal coming into play and those funds in the hands of John Williams, could very well have seen them remain as a Premier League club over the last 15 years. This is not a small football club we are talking about, as much as people try to scoff and wish for that to be true. They have genuine Premier League pedigree and are currently punching well below their weight. Only one set of people are to blame for that and they currently remain in hiding in Pune, India.

[blatherwickstattoos]

I don't think so, Conroy. Posters on here are praising Venky's for being generous and fantastic owners BECAUSE they are covering those losses and have done for 12 years or so. "I wish we had somebody putting in £10m-15m a year" etc. My point is that, almost every Championship club is making losses that are being covered by their owners. Hence, what Venky's are doing is not something special or out of the ordinary. Yet people are using this point to say Rovers fan should be grateful and are spoilt and so on. Not true, as those owners have played a major part in causing such losses in the first place and have taken down an established Premier League outfit. They have made no attempt in 12 years to return Blackburn back to the top flight, so their fans have every right to be angry and to want those owners gone. The same thing would be happening here amongst Clarets if the roles were reversed.

As for "they would have gone down anyway eventually". That's wishful thinking. The reality is they achieved a 10th place finish in the Prem and reached the semi finals of the League Cup in 2010, all a matter of months before Venky's turned up. That was not a club in danger of relegation. They were two years away from a major Sky broadcasting deal coming into play and those funds in the hands of John Williams, could very well have seen them remain as a Premier League club over the last 15 years. This is not a small football club we are talking about, as much as people try to scoff and wish for that to be true. They have genuine Premier League pedigree and are currently punching well below their weight. Only one set of people are to blame for that and they currently remain in hiding in Pune, India.

Have a day off. It’s getting boring now.

[The Shire Claret]

I don't think so, Conroy. Posters on here are praising Venky's for being generous and fantastic owners BECAUSE they are covering those losses and have done for 12 years or so. "I wish we had somebody putting in £10m-15m a year" etc. My point is that, almost every Championship club is making losses that are being covered by their owners. Hence, what Venky's are doing is not something special or out of the ordinary. Yet people are using this point to say Rovers fan should be grateful and are spoilt and so on. Not true, as those owners have played a major part in causing such losses in the first place and have taken down an established Premier League outfit. They have made no attempt in 12 years to return Blackburn back to the top flight, so their fans have every right to be angry and to want those owners gone. The same thing would be happening here amongst Clarets if the roles were reversed.

As for "they would have gone down anyway eventually". That's wishful thinking. The reality is they achieved a 10th place finish in the Prem and reached the semi finals of the League Cup in 2010, all a matter of months before Venky's turned up. That was not a club in danger of relegation. They were two years away from a major Sky broadcasting deal coming into play and those funds in the hands of John Williams, could very well have seen them remain as a Premier League club over the last 15 years. This is not a small football club we are talking about, as much as people try to scoff and wish for that to be true. They have genuine Premier League pedigree and are currently punching well below their weight. Only one set of people are to blame for that and they currently remain in hiding in Pune, India.

Honestly pal ... you need to get a bit of perspective.....

If's but's and maybe's mean absolutely nothing in football.... nothing ....

You ask the fans of:

Bolton
Bury
Scarborough
Darlington
Rochdale
Macclesfield
Reading
Sheffield Wednesday
Bradford

I could go on and on if they would have like to have an owner that pays off their debts every season and not pull the plug.... They would have cried out for the Venky's when they were scraping pennies together to keep their clubs going ....

The fate of 95% of football teams can change very quickly and rovers should be grateful that they had an owner that funded success , just like city have had and Chelsea etc ...

You might not like that fact that you no longer have a rich fan giving you an advantage but you are certainly better off than most ..

Moaning about no investment in players ? You are in the same boat as everyone else who wasted their PL parachute payments and that makes up about 16 teams in the championship

You have to live by your means than that's where you are along with everyone else ...

Will be the same for us if we don't go up in the next 3 seasons ... we can kiss buying players for 10-15 million and rightfully so ... we wont have the money

You need to get over it and stop acting so entitled like you are any more deservent of being in the PL than Bradford, Barnsley or Norwich ... You're a football team with 12-14k crowds and thats your funding .... deal with it

[Hutchy]

what if one of these consortiums buys the club and run it as a business to make money (not all millionaires/billionaires are willing to throw their wealth away) and do enough to keep the lights and on make a profit but nothing more, Roverrrs become a team that bounce around the championship/league 1 without really having much chance of premier league football without a lucky break ala us and Coyle but the flip side is its a well run club showing a profit year on year, will Bstard fans be happy then or will it be more of the same whining about bad owners and how they want them out because they won't throw their millions away trying to get back to the prem where spending 100-200m guarantees nothing.

I think we need to remind ourselves what the aim of the game is, Fulledge. Is it to see our club make a profit in the Accounts or is it to see our club win? NOBODY, not one of us, goes around saying "Ah, but your club is in debt, we're debt free, we made a profit last year, didn't you know?".

"Erm, you haven't beaten us for 15 years mate and we won the title at your ground"

"So what, we make a profit every year and aren't in debt like you are".

Let's be real now, Fulledge. Of course fans want their clubs to be in a good state financially, but what matters to all of us is the club winning on the pitch. Why aren't owners in general trying to win? I don't mean individual football matches, but showing ambition to really achieve things. If owners ran a club as a business hoping to make a profit BUT at the same TRIED to win and kick the club on, then there wouldn't be an issue.

What everybody is seeing at Blackburn is owners that don't give a **** and aren't even trying to win i.e not trying to get promoted. That's the problem there. Who on here would accept Pace or whoever else having the Clarets sit in mid table in this Division for over a decade without ever trying to get back into the Prem? Would that scenario become more acceptable if Burnley were making a profit every year and were deemed a "well run club"? I don't think it would be acceptable. We all want to see intent from the top of the Club, to at least TRY, otherwise what is the point.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

This Belm still crying?

Maybe its time to stop entertaining him

[Hutchy]

Have a day off. It’s getting boring now.

Posters are quoting me and asking questions. You can understand that I might respond to a few.

[Buxtonclaret]

This Belm still crying?

Maybe its time to stop entertaining him

Think your right there, Sid.
It's become tedious.

[Hutchy]

Think your right there, Sid.
It's become tedious.

No worries, Buxton. I only came on to reply to a couple of posts. I'll leave it there, as we are only going to go round in circles.

[Bigvince]

Time to go back to Fiddlers forum Hutchy, 39 posts on different threads and every thread is about b4st4rds!

[wilks_bfc]

They’ll be looking for another head coach within the year

They’ve just announced Valérien Ismaël as the new coach, who usually only last 6mths in previous coaching roles

[Bosscat]

They’ll be looking for another head coach within the year

They’ve just announced Valérien Ismaël as the new coach, who usually only last 6mths in previous coaching roles

He puts his teams to sleep

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[mybloodisclaret]

Lost any credibility as soon as he pretended to be a Claret. Clearly a deluded liar. Tries repeatedly to argue the same points that won't ever be accepted by Clarets.

Knows everything there is to know about them, and comes on here to bore us with it.

Joined immediately after we beat them....... again.

Stop feeding him and he will go away. Keep looking up fella.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Let's go easy on hutchy, he clearly prefers the company of Burnley fans to his fellow puddle drinkers, who can blame him