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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:25 am

1989_claret wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:22 am
Not a fan of the specific lyrics but enjoy the tune. An alternative?
Agree with that

The tune was stuck in my head when I got home last night and went to bed :?

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Oldparkwood » Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:27 am

It's a pathetic chant.... Embarrassing. Fair enough if the player is no longer with us..... Until then it's a big no from me

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Ric_C » Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:31 am

This is all a problem the club have created with lack of communication and inconsistencies. Alan Pace at the Fans forum saying he is fit was a bit strange.

Compare it to the way the club dealt with the Foster situation last season, something's not adding up.

Also if he was that ill in the summer, why did he post an unhappy emoji on instagram when his move to Ajax fell through?

Not really bothered about the chant tbh, at least it created a bit of atmosphere.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by fatboy47 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:50 am

I'd try not to fret over it.

It's the cricket field end at Burnley not St Catherine's Madrigal Choir.
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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by quoonbeatz » Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:54 am

fatboy47 wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:50 am
I'd try not to fret over it.

It's the cricket field end at Burnley not St Catherine's Madrigal Choir.
Have to say I’d be keen to hear said choir chizzed up under the Friday night lights.
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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Steddyman » Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:55 am

rincon wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:58 am
The club could have avoided this chant, by telling us straight what the situation is with Tresor, instead of pussyfooting around with half stories and allowing the rumours to grow. We pay money to support the team and if one of our players, on big wages, is not playing we should be told why.
If he hasn't downed tools, this chant will force the club to explain the situation.
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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by NewClaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:11 am

All of the evidence suggests this guy has downed tools and is taking the **** out of the club, or at least he’s not making much effort to rep

If that perception is wrong I doubt Alan would’ve said what he did or the club would’ve clarified the position when the song was invented.

Personally I think the tune is very catchy and like that it shows we’re not a fanbase that accepts players messing our club around. Sends a good message in many ways.

Only downside to me is it’s about Shelvey, who has hardly kicked a ball, and not CJ who the lyrics would also have worked for (and who we desperately want to sign a new contract).
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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by bumba » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:14 am

Awful chant up there with the Jack Walker is dead chant, embarrassing.
Why not switch Tresor out to B4stards and it'd be a great chant, like someone said above Shelvey isn't going to embrace it is he

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by IanMcL » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:17 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 6:29 am
Tbf i've had a laugh about the Tresor situation. But for all we know the stories about the lad being seriously ill have been true. The fact that he didn't leave in January makes me think this is the only logical conclusion now.
This

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Darthlaw » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:18 am

The same cretins singing the chant will be the ones who loved Wout, went on to hate him when he left to play in the World Cup, hated him when returned to training with a sigh and then were happy for him to return, even lauding his body language at the start of this season.

Football cretins be fickle.

If Tresor (by some miracle) rocketed the winner in against the horse botherers in the playoff final, he would achieve club legend status and all would be forgotten what happened before.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by forzagranata » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:36 am

We clearly need a committee to approve chants before anyone is allowed to open their mouths. Or maybe they can be run past the FAB for approval in conjunction with Russell Ball?

We also need a number where people can report anyone singing unauthorised chants.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by DCWat » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:37 am

forzagranata wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:36 am
We clearly need a committee to approve chants before anyone is allowed to open their mouths. Or maybe they can be run past the FAB for approval in conjunction with Russell Ball?

We also need a number where people can report anyone singing unauthorised chants.
Surprised Ball hasn’t had a dabble at writing a few.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by quoonbeatz » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:42 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:11 am
Personally I think the tune is very catchy and like that it shows we’re not a fanbase that accepts players messing our club around. Sends a good message in many ways.
Sorry mate but this is pretty daft. There is no way that a song slagging off a current player sends a good message to anyone.

If it does transpire that he’s struggling with something it will simply make those singing it look a right set of pricks.

It is catchy but there’s just no need to reference Tresor.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by RVclaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:43 am

Darthlaw wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:18 am
The same cretins singing the chant will be the ones who loved Wout, went on to hate him when he left to play in the World Cup, hated him when returned to training with a sigh and then were happy for him to return, even lauding his body language at the start of this season.

Football cretins be fickle.

If Tresor (by some miracle) rocketed the winner in against the horse botherers in the playoff final, he would achieve club legend status and all would be forgotten what happened before.
Same lot that prob jeered Trafford last season, and now sing his name, pathetic.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:47 am

1, 2, 3, 4...
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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Row x » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:03 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:55 am
If he hasn't downed tools, this chant will force the club to explain the situation.
No it won't
And neither should it

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Row x » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:06 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:36 am
We clearly need a committee to approve chants before anyone is allowed to open their mouths. Or maybe they can be run past the FAB for approval in conjunction with Russell Ball?

We also need a number where people can report anyone singing unauthorised chants.
Or perhaps don't sing songs against our own players, or celebrating people dying, then people wouldn't need to comment against them

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by daveisaclaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:11 pm

Checked the score last night and got really worried people on here wouldn't be able to slag off Burnley fans, but thank God we've found a way

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by steve1264b » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:13 pm

I would have thought its pretty obvious there is a medical issue with Tresor, whatever that is, so the club are bound by privacy issues and can't just announce what the problem is with our his permission.

Something like a broken leg is obvious but what if its something not obvious like (AND I MAKE THIS UP) HIV/Cancer/mental then the club cannot say what it is

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:15 pm

If people don’t like the song, fair enough, it’s in poor taste really.

But it does make me laugh that posters on here who object to a song that says we don’t care about Tresor (pretty tame) see no problem in calling our own fans every name under the sun.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by agreenwood » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:25 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:36 am
We clearly need a committee to approve chants before anyone is allowed to open their mouths. Or maybe they can be run past the FAB for approval in conjunction with Russell Ball?

We also need a number where people can report anyone singing unauthorised chants.
What’s Russell Ball got to do with some Burnley fans not liking a song that other Burnley fans sing?

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by JohnMac » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:29 pm

Should be directed at Weghorst not Tresor

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by FeedTheArf » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:36 pm

Do like the tune. How about:

I don’t care about Rovers
They don’t care about me
All I care about
Is Burnley FC

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Goody1975 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:58 pm

I personally don't sing it but Tresor created his own narrative with his social media post at the beginning of September.

As for Shelvey distancing himself from the chant, he applauded the CFS after the game when they started singing it to him.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Goody1975 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:04 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:47 am
1, 2, 3, 4...
If 1,2,3,4 was used more often, then perhaps the modern fan would be able to keep in time with the music, rather than speeding up from 33rpm to 45rpm.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:06 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:36 am
We clearly need a committee to approve chants before anyone is allowed to open their mouths. Or maybe they can be run past the FAB for approval in conjunction with Russell Ball?

We also need a number where people can report anyone singing unauthorised chants.
We could just ban singing and chanting altogether and have it all replaced with a banging drum.
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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by jos » Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:57 pm

By not supporting Tresor getting himself back in the team, Anyone who sings it cannot by definition call themselves a Burnley supporter.

Sad state of affairs.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Juan Tanamera » Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:29 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:06 pm
We could just ban singing and chanting altogether and have it all replaced with a banging drum.
Up until scoring our first goal last night it would be easy to think there was a ban on singing.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:38 pm

Tbh last night was a reminder with the full away end of that ridiculous situation where the half of the stand full of away fans is allowed to be more packed, and thus more atmospheric, than the home half. Would think solving that would be a club priority rather than moaning about atmosphere.

As for the chant, my long predicted Mikey situation is a form of rehabilitation that is hard to diagnose, e.g. a long covid, ME, side effects type of thing. If he had the rumoured illness then some kind of delayed side effect is very possible. Thus some in the club may feel he should be fit but the player feels he struggles. If that is the case it makes the chant not good at all, but the player always has the right to clarify anything, and he has chosen not to, something I am not convinced is in his best interests.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:43 pm

All the plumbs getting upset about a chant which is about as offensive as an episode of the One Show . Do people really think it’s an “ anti tresor “ chant ? Ffs nobody is remotely musing on the hopeless Belgian when they sing this dirge .

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Row x » Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:46 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:43 pm
All the plumbs getting upset about a chant which is about as offensive as an episode of the One Show . Do people really think it’s an “ anti tresor “ chant ? Ffs nobody is remotely musing on the hopeless Belgian when they sing this dirge .
What's a plumb?

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:47 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:25 pm
What’s Russell Ball got to do with some Burnley fans not liking a song that other Burnley fans sing?
He just might have been joking …

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by agreenwood » Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:49 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:47 pm
He just might have been joking …
You don’t say.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:49 pm

Row x wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:46 pm
What's a plumb?
My sincerest apologies for the typo sugar plum

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Row x » Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:56 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:49 pm
My sincerest apologies for the typo sugar plum
I just like to know what I'm being called

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by NewClaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:58 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:42 am
Sorry mate but this is pretty daft. There is no way that a song slagging off a current player sends a good message to anyone.

If it does transpire that he’s struggling with something it will simply make those singing it look a right set of pricks.

It is catchy but there’s just no need to reference Tresor.
We’ll have to agree to disagree mate. My perspective is that there’s no evidence whatsoever he’s struggling with anything, else the club would’ve said as they did with Foster and should definitely have addressed it after the song came out.

Instead Pace said in an Instagram post that he loved the noise that we brought, which to be honest was mainly that song.

I can understand and respect why some don’t agree with it or want to sing it but I don’t think they should be too critical of those that do because, all things told, he’s taking our club for a ride.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Sproggy » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:03 pm

I don’t want to inflame an already tense situation but some of the people who sang this cruel and heartless song which has clearly upset so many of our proper fans also went down for a beer before half time and then left the game early.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Row x » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:05 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:58 pm
We’ll have to agree to disagree mate. My perspective is that there’s no evidence whatsoever he’s struggling with anything, else the club would’ve said as they did with Foster and should definitely have addressed it after the song came out.

Instead Pace said in an Instagram post that he loved the noise that we brought, which to be honest was mainly that song.

I can understand and respect why some don’t agree with it or want to sing it but I don’t think they should be too critical of those that do because, all things told, he’s taking our club for a ride.
Foster gave permission for his situation to be made public,and even wrote about it himself.
If tresor hasn't given permission for his condition be made public then the club cannot say anything about it

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by quoonbeatz » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:07 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:58 pm
We’ll have to agree to disagree mate. My perspective is that there’s no evidence whatsoever he’s struggling with anything, else the club would’ve said as they did with Foster and should definitely have addressed it after the song came out.

Instead Pace said in an Instagram post that he loved the noise that we brought, which to be honest was mainly that song.

I can understand and respect why some don’t agree with it or want to sing it but I don’t think they should be too critical of those that do because, all things told, he’s taking our club for a ride.
There’s zero evidence either way tbh. My point was that I’m not really sure who you think it sends a good message to?

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Goody1975 » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:13 pm

He seemed fit enough to join Ajax in September.

Again, I don't know anymore than anyone else on here, but some seem to suggest they are in the know about MT's current medical records.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:16 pm

Goody1975 wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:13 pm
He seemed fit enough to join Ajax in September.

Again, I don't know anymore than anyone else on here, but some seem to suggest they are in the know about MT's current medical records.
Perhaps Ajax pulled out for a reason?

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Bosscat » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:18 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:16 pm
Perhaps Ajax pulled out for a reason?
Perhaps Ajax read UTC 😉
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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Row x » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:18 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:16 pm
Perhaps Ajax pulled out for a reason?
And perhaps it was an unfounded rumour

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:23 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:18 pm
Perhaps Ajax read UTC 😉
You’d hope not.

The only facts we know for certain is that he’s been selected by his own club once this season and no other club has signed him over two transfer windows.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:24 pm

Perhaps Ajax will come in for Shelvey instead.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by NewClaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:24 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:07 pm
There’s zero evidence either way tbh. My point was that I’m not really sure who you think it sends a good message to?
Sorry, misunderstood your main point.

I think it sends a message to him/his agent that fans aren’t happy with his behaviour, a message to the other players who are working hard for the club that his attitude is noted and not appreciated, and generally to people around the club that we’re not a fan base who take kindly to players who try to steal a living here.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by Bow » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:25 pm

Grown men singing songs about other grown men is pretty embarrassing behaviour anyway when you actually think about it.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:26 pm

Bacchus wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:11 am
If you find my suggestion so restrictive it says a lot more about you than it does me!
Though seriously when was the last Burnley chant that included “ racism “ ? And while the Jack Walker chant is unpleasant , it’s pretty rare to hear it these days . As for the tamest softball chant of “ Mike Tresor not caring about us “ how low on the offended scale can that possibly be ?

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:27 pm

Grown men melting about a song is just as bad.

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Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

Post by quoonbeatz » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:29 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:24 pm
Sorry, misunderstood your main point.

I think it sends a message to him/his agent that fans aren’t happy with his behaviour, a message to the other players who are working hard for the club that his attitude is noted and not appreciated, and generally to people around the club that we’re not a fan base who take kindly to players who try to steal a living here.
And what if you’re wrong about the situation? Still a good message?

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