Tresor / Shelvey chant

[claret wizard]

Grown men singing songs about other grown men is pretty embarrassing behaviour anyway when you actually think about it.

It’d need to be in a higher key if we just let the women sing.

[NewClaret]

And what if you’re wrong about the situation? Still a good message?

If we were wrong about the situation, why has Alan said he’s fit and available to play, that he’d like to see him playing for us and we should start a “writing campaign”, told a poster privately that he can’t promise him he wants to play for us? And why has Parker given zero reason for his continued absence, why has the club done nothing whatsoever to better inform fans since the song started?

I’d say it’s highly unlikely fans have got the wrong end of the stick on this one, and if they have it’s very definitely due to lack of/poor communication from club.

[quoonbeatz]

If we were wrong about the situation, why has Alan said he’s fit and available to play, that he’d like to see him playing for us and we should start a “writing campaign”, told a poster privately that he can’t promise him he wants to play for us? And why has Parker given zero reason for his continued absence, why has the club done nothing whatsoever to better inform fans since the song started?

I’d say it’s highly unlikely fans have got the wrong end of the stick on this one, and if they have it’s very definitely due to lack of/poor communication from club.

Well, y’know, he has actually played for us since Pace said that but I’d take anything Pace says at those fluff sessions, especially ‘off the record’ with a big spoon of salt. If he was refusing to play it’d be a bit weird to be suddenly schlepping to Reading to sit on the bench for what was largely a reserve game.

Either way, there’s no official word so none of us know what’s really going on, which is my point, there’s no ‘evidence’ either way.

Anyway, enough time spent on this now, I can’t say I’m arsed about Tresor but certainly not enough to start a song about how much I don’t care.

[Sproggy]

And what if you’re wrong about the situation? Still a good message?

Analysing the song again in a bit more detail, I don't think they care.

[NewClaret]

Well, y’know, he has actually played for us since Pace said that but I’d take anything Pace says at those fluff sessions, especially ‘off the record’ with a big spoon of salt. If he was refusing to play it’d be a bit weird to be suddenly schlepping to Reading to sit on the bench for what was largely a reserve game.

Either way, there’s no official word so none of us know what’s really going on, which is my point, there’s no ‘evidence’ either way.

Anyway, enough time spent on this now, I can’t say I’m arsed about Tresor but certainly not enough to start a song about how much I don’t care.

That’s true, Reading situation an anomaly but widely reported to have gone AWOL since then too. To be honest, I just see this as what happens when these situations do or are allowed to develop.

Good debating anyway, life would be boring if we all thought the same.

And for the record, I don’t start it, I just join in

[Les Lawrence]

We are fans of burnleeee
We don't sing nasty songs
And songs with hurty words
To opposition fans

[Lu-tze]

Putting the whole tresor issue to one side, I’ve always found it weird which players we decide to sing about and which ones we don’t.
Find it a bit cringey that the main song sung to celebrate last night was about a player that has only just signed, who no-ones’s sure is actually still any good yet, only played 10 mins and didn’t score!
Especially when we’ve long serving players like Cullen and Brownhill (who was great when he came on and scored!) neither of whom have a decent song.
Then there’s esteve and cj that are arguably our best players and also don’t have decent songs…. as I say, just find it weird.
Been the case for years though, can remember it happening with defour (before he actually had an injury free run in the team) getting his name sung all game when he wasn’t even in the squad!

[The Shire Claret]

That’s true, Reading situation an anomaly but widely reported to have gone AWOL since then too. To be honest, I just see this as what happens when these situations do or are allowed to develop.

Good debating anyway, life would be boring if we all thought the same.

And for the record, I don’t start it, I just join in

Widely reported he’s gone AWOL ? I’ve not seen anything … where so I can have a read ?

[morninbob]

Same morons who booed weghorst in a friendly.

[Steddyman]

Tbh last night was a reminder with the full away end of that ridiculous situation where the half of the stand full of away fans is allowed to be more packed, and thus more atmospheric, than the home half. Would think solving that would be a club priority rather than moaning about atmosphere.

As for the chant, my long predicted Mikey situation is a form of rehabilitation that is hard to diagnose, e.g. a long covid, ME, side effects type of thing. If he had the rumoured illness then some kind of delayed side effect is very possible. Thus some in the club may feel he should be fit but the player feels he struggles. If that is the case it makes the chant not good at all, but the player always has the right to clarify anything, and he has chosen not to, something I am not convinced is in his best interests.

I must admit I thought it was odd how much more densely packed the away end of that stand was lacked than the home end.

[blatherwickstattoos]

Poor do slating one of own without any info on his injury or mental state. I he fact we have a song for a player who’s played about 1 and a half games total for us and none for Cullen or Robert’s shoes how clueless most our fans are.

[Steddyman]

Foster gave permission for his situation to be made public,and even wrote about it himself.
If tresor hasn't given permission for his condition be made public then the club cannot say anything about it

And if Tresor hasn't and is genuinely ill, now would be a good time to come clean.

However, at the fans forum Alan clearly stated that Tresor had been available for selection for some time, but wasn't playing and he wasn't sure if he would again.

I doubt very much it is illness right now, and if it is, he can tell us about it as other players have.

[Row x]

Widely reported he’s gone AWOL ? I’ve not seen anything … where so I can have a read ?

I haven't seen that article either

[Row x]

And if Tresor hasn't and is genuinely ill, now would be a good time to come clean.

However, at the fans forum Alan clearly stated that Tresor had been available for selection for some time, but wasn't playing and he wasn't sure if he would again.

I doubt very much it is illness right now, and if it is, he can tell us about it as other players have.

Tresor has been selected, and played after those comments were made

[jos]

Stupid song

[Leisure]

It's just a song FFS!

[louieollie]

Widely reported he’s gone AWOL ? I’ve not seen anything … where so I can have a read ?

Widely reported by who exactly ..................maybe it's the lyrical genius that has penned that pathetic classless tripe together for the sheep to experience their first collective semi too as they proudly sing it!.

[BurnleyFC]

Widely reported by who exactly ..................maybe it's the lyrical genius that has penned that pathetic classless tripe together for the sheep to experience their first collective semi too as they proudly sing it!.

Berk.

[louieollie]

Berk.

Happy with that appraisal

[bobinho]

Putting the whole tresor issue to one side, I’ve always found it weird which players we decide to sing about and which ones we don’t.
Find it a bit cringey that the main song sung to celebrate last night was about a player that has only just signed, who no-ones’s sure is actually still any good yet, only played 10 mins and didn’t score!
Especially when we’ve long serving players like Cullen and Brownhill (who was great when he came on and scored!) neither of whom have a decent song.
Then there’s esteve and cj that are arguably our best players and also don’t have decent songs…. as I say, just find it weird.
Been the case for years though, can remember it happening with defour (before he actually had an injury free run in the team) getting his name sung all game when he wasn’t even in the squad!

If you can’t see how good the lad is despite his lack of minutes, perhaps football isn’t for you. When someone’s THAT good, Stevie Wonder can see it. He’s a class act, and he always has been.

[Robbie_painter]

Criticised for not singing,criticised when they do sing.Can’t do right for doing wrong.This board really is like an old folks home at times.

[forzagranata]

The idea that Mike Tresor is "one of our own" takes the biscuit on this bizarre thread.

[Steddyman]

Tresor has been selected, and played after those comments were made

Widely reported he wouldn't be allowed to leave in Jan by Alan unless he played for us again, so the week later he plays for 10 mins (created a goal), then end of Jan came and suddenly he is ill again.

I think everyone is so frustrated because we know what he could bring. But he has no intention of bringing it with us.

[timshorts]

We must be the 49th * team in the league to adopt that song, and the first to aim it at a current player.

Much that I dislike man u entitlement, singing this song about the glazers has got to be justified. The "interview" with one of them in the street this week just proved it. Far to important to say anything to man u fans, he was "on his way for a meeting with the president." I'm guessing that their president is impressed with the way that they have bought something with someone else's money, now get their plebs to pay them for keeping it, and still make a mint out of it even though they have entirely trashed the product.

The Donald is working out a way to repeat that feat, just with a whole country.

[NewClaret]

Widely reported he’s gone AWOL ? I’ve not seen anything … where so I can have a read ?

On here, that he’s not been training with us. Calling in sick. Certainly not in any of our training videos or pictures anyway.

[NewClaret]

Widely reported he wouldn't be allowed to leave in Jan by Alan unless he played for us again, so the week later he plays for 10 mins (created a goal), then end of Jan came and suddenly he is ill again.

I think everyone is so frustrated because we know what he could bring. But he has no intention of bringing it with us.

No idea where that rumour came from that Alan wouldn’t sell until he’d played for us again. I assume from the Q&A (not the fans one) but having spoken to someone who was there since, I dont think he said that.

[Robbie_painter]

We must be the 49th * team in the league to adopt that song, and the first to aim it at a current player.

Much that I dislike man u entitlement, singing this song about the glazers has got to be justified. The "interview" with one of them in the street this week just proved it. Far to important to say anything to man u fans, he was "on his way for a meeting with the president." I'm guessing that their president is impressed with the way that they have bought something with someone else's money, now get their plebs to pay them for keeping it, and still make a mint out of it even though they have entirely trashed the product.

The Donald is working out a way to repeat that feat, just with a whole country.

And long may they continue trashing the product.Could not give a shiny shite about united and their overly entitled fanbase.

[Bullabill]

Grown men singing songs about other grown men is pretty embarrassing behaviour anyway when you actually think about it.

Give me some men who are stout-hearted men
Who will fight for the right they adore,
Start me with ten who are stout-hearted Men
And I'll soon give you ten thousand more .......

Not a bad ditty many are not embarrassed to sing.

[Bordeauxclaret]

The idea that Mike Tresor is "one of our own" takes the biscuit on this bizarre thread.

It’s a bizarre thread indeed, but it would be even more bizarre to think that, in this context, “one of our own” means anything else than a Burnley player.

[SouthLondonexile]

Someone on here wanted better communication from the club about Tresors situation.
I agree. It would help us understand the situation.

[Row x]

On here, that he’s not been training with us. Calling in sick. Certainly not in any of our training videos or pictures anyway.

Must be right then

[claretonthecoast1882]

The chant is dumb, unoriginal and boring.

What better way to let a player know you don't care about him by talking about him and singing about him.

[LDNBFC87]

Tresor clearly taking the mic out the club but the song is still embarrassing

It's anything but clear.

[ArmchairDetective]

There was a lot of people joining in with that chant and not only those who some of you on here would normally look down on. Not saying it's right to chant it, but it was quite a popular one on Friday.

[dougcollins]

Poor do slating one of own without any info on his injury or mental state. I he fact we have a song for a player who’s played about 1 and a half games total for us and none for Cullen or Robert’s shoes how clueless most our fans are.

A song about Robert's shoes would probably be better than most of what we have now.

[blatherwickstattoos]

A song about Robert's shoes would probably be better than most of what we have now.

Or tash

[Big Vinny K]

Pretty pathetic that people sit down and go to the trouble of writing a song like this.
Even more pathetic for those who choose to join in.

Nobody knows what’s gone on with Tresor. As already said about Alan Pace he’s like a giddy child when someone puts a tv camera or microphone in front of him.

If we are going to have a song about every Burnley player who we might think is not giving their all to the club then there is going to be a hell of a lot of songs slagging off our players. Look at half the team last season planning their departures before the season ended. Or those who are rumoured to being seeing their contracts out this season.

Or why not sing a song about Alan Pace and taking tens of millions out of the club, putting up season ticket prices by more than any other owner in the last 50 years…..it wouldn’t be difficult to write something catchy that rhymes with greedy midget,….widget ?

Or best of all let’s not sing disparaging songs about any of our players, staff or even owners whilst we are trying to win games.

[NL Claret]

It's anything but clear.

Some think that posters lap up misinformation.

It was probably in Easy's lad's WhatsApp group about tresor.

[Row x]

Pretty pathetic that people sit down and go to the trouble of writing a song like this.
Even more pathetic for those who choose to join in.

Nobody knows what’s gone on with Tresor. As already said about Alan Pace he’s like a giddy child when someone puts a tv camera or microphone in front of him.

If we are going to have a song about every Burnley player who we might think is not giving their all to the club then there is going to be a hell of a lot of songs slagging off our players. Look at half the team last season planning their departures before the season ended. Or those who are rumoured to being seeing their contracts out this season.

Or why not sing a song about Alan Pace and taking tens of millions out of the club, putting up season ticket prices by more than any other owner in the last 50 years…..it wouldn’t be difficult to write something catchy that rhymes with greedy midget,….widget ?

Or best of all let’s not sing disparaging songs about any of our players, staff or even owners whilst we are trying to win games.

Calling someone a midget is probably as bad as singing the stupid song

[Falcon]

I'll not be singing along with this one in its current form.

Tresor is still one of our players and nobody on the outside knows his situation for sure. If it is as serious a health condition as has been suggested (and the rumour I heard suggests it's one of the worst ones) then the fans slagging him off isn't going to do him any good and makes us look like morons.

[daveisaclaret]

Looking forward to singing along to the new chant Alan Pace plays with a widget

[jlup1980]

The idea that Mike Tresor is "one of our own" takes the biscuit on this bizarre thread.

Absolutely! Regardless of whether the chant makes us look silly or not, there's no doubting Tresor has had our pants down since the day he stepped into Turf Moor. He may well have an illness that's keeping him out, but what's the excuse for last season? He should have been one of the first names on the teamsheet. As it was, he ambled around the pitch when called upon, offering very little. VK chose to play pretty much anyone else ahead of him, and that says it all. What a waste of talent.

[Vegas Claret]

I don't care about Bastards
or about P.N.E
All I care about
is Burnley FC

[Dyched]

Pretty pathetic that people sit down and go to the trouble of writing a song like this.
Even more pathetic for those who choose to join in.

Nobody knows what’s gone on with Tresor. As already said about Alan Pace he’s like a giddy child when someone puts a tv camera or microphone in front of him.

If we are going to have a song about every Burnley player who we might think is not giving their all to the club then there is going to be a hell of a lot of songs slagging off our players. Look at half the team last season planning their departures before the season ended. Or those who are rumoured to being seeing their contracts out this season.

Or why not sing a song about Alan Pace and taking tens of millions out of the club, putting up season ticket prices by more than any other owner in the last 50 years…..it wouldn’t be difficult to write something catchy that rhymes with greedy midget,….widget ?

Or best of all let’s not sing disparaging songs about any of our players, staff or even owners whilst we are trying to win games.

Are you okay?

[GetIntoEm]

More people on here OUTRAGED about this Tresor song than called out our fans booing James Trafford last season. Can't make it up