Preston fans

[PremierLeagueClass]

Just look at the state of this -

https://www.pne-online.net/forum/thread ... s.3441731/

Thank god this board is well moderated.

We let ourselves down on the football side yesterday but my god Preston didn’t half show themselves up.

“Are you watching Hannibal” chanted at the end. I know every club has its knuckle draggers but everything about PNE yesterday raised the bar in that respect.

They’ll lose comfortably in the next round unless they fluke one from a dodgy bounce off their non-league pitch. Will make it a little bit sweeter down the line I guess when we beat them in the games that matter.

[Nifkin]

But you're quiet happy with actual racist who got actual ban for racism,jonjo shelvey

[daveisaclaret]

Preston fans enjoyed cheering on a racist and denigrating the victim. Sad where football fandom can take people.

[ClaretTony]

Just look at the state of this -

https://www.pne-online.net/forum/thread ... s.3441731/

Thank god this board is well moderated.

We let ourselves down on the football side yesterday but my god Preston didn’t half show themselves up.

“Are you watching Hannibal” chanted at the end. I know every club has its knuckle draggers but everything about PNE yesterday raised the bar in that respect.

They’ll lose comfortably in the next round unless they fluke one from a dodgy bounce off their non-league pitch. Will make it a little bit sweeter down the line I guess when we beat them in the games that matter.

You criticise them and then post that

[Pickles]

If it was the other way around, a large section of Burnley fans would be responding the same way.

[Swizzlestick]

I live in Preston, for my sins, so naturally been getting some jibes, but most proper PNE fans are embarrassed by all of this. Our recent history is not blemish free and it’s fair to say we wouldn’t like it if all our fans were tarred with the same brush.

[IanMcL]

Sounds much like the Jack Walker heart attack song I heard below stairs yesterday, as I went to my seat.

Appalling.

[Woodleyclaret]

It's aways funny when Preston attempt to get some fake rivalry with us.They are always beneath our team in every sense.Spot on decision by SP
Promotion is the aim not a meaningless cup game against our wannabe rivals
10 min bragging about a rare win for PNE is all it's really worth.We won't beat them next year because we will be up in the Premier league a place PNE fans can only dream about UTC

[taio]

They are no different to our or any supporters.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

Well we certainly have our own d***-head fans. A couple of coked up idiots tried to kick us out of our seats, before realising they were on the wrong row and then one of them spent the game screaming abuse at Koleosho until he was literally red in the face.

Fairly confident the FA will rule in Hannibal's favour and their idiots will live in denial anyway.

[IanMcL]

Promotion is the aim not a meaningless cup game

Ladt 8 of the FA Cup is worth fighting for. TV all over the world. Big focus will be on PNE as the last 'minnows'.

[Rileybobs]

Preston fans enjoyed cheering on a racist and denigrating the victim. Sad where football fandom can take people.

Whilst this was wrong, let’s not forget that a sizeable number of Burnley fans denigrated Brighton’s Bong following his accusation of Rodriguez.

[daveisaclaret]

Whilst this was wrong, let’s not forget that a sizeable number of Burnley fans denigrated Brighton’s Bong following his accusation of Rodriguez.

I got called names for saying we have lots of racist fans so I don't want to do it again

[Rileybobs]

I got called names for saying we have lots of racist fans so I don't want to do it again

Fair.

[TsarBomba]

Let PNE fans have their day in the sun. They’ve had nothing to cheer for 10+ years.

I don’t work with any PNE fans, but if I did, I would complement them on how much more up for it they were.

[Jakubclaret]

But you're quiet happy with actual racist who got actual ban for racism,jonjo shelvey

Some of us are actually reserving judgement on the basis that a conclusion hasn't been reached yet before calling out racism. Not many but some.

[bfccrazy]

Mentioned to one of the lads with us yesterday how it was a little surreal walking out onto the stand to a chant of "you racist bar steward.... You know what you are" 15/20 years after walking out onto the stand at an away game and getting racially abused by our fans.

Hopefully this is a change in our fans and shows a change in society as well. Preston always have a weird rivalry with us probably brought on after the years of us not playing those down the road. It was refreshing to see our whole stand chant against racism though and we're only a decade in from the "my old man's a racist" chant which was regularly sung all over the country by our fans.

[PremierLeagueClass]

You criticise them and then post that

Come again?

[PremierLeagueClass]

You criticise them and then post that

Come again?

[mdd2]

Preston fans enjoyed cheering on a racist and denigrating the victim. Sad where football fandom can take people.

We don't know this was a racist comment and were the shoe on the other foot many of our pea brained supporters would be chanting similar stuff. A person should remain innocent until proved differently and TBH how on earth does one judge the "he said ......." " No, I said .......". Even Solomon would struggle there.

[Burnley1989]

Mentioned to one of the lads with us yesterday how it was a little surreal walking out onto the stand to a chant of "you racist bar steward.... You know what you are" 15/20 years after walking out onto the stand at an away game and getting racially abused by our fans.

Hopefully this is a change in our fans and shows a change in society as well. Preston always have a weird rivalry with us probably brought on after the years of us not playing those down the road. It was refreshing to see our whole stand chant against racism though and we're only a decade in from the "my old man's a racist" chant which was regularly sung all over the country by our fans.

Fully with you, said the same to my mate.

[Jakubclaret]

We don't know this was a racist comment and were the shoe on the other foot many of our pea brained supporters would be chanting similar stuff. A person should remain innocent until proved differently and TBH how on earth does one judge the "he said ......." " No, I said .......". Even Solomon would struggle there.

The laws of justice with some people on here only seem to apply if you like the person or know the person if you don't you are guilty. The possibility that it never happened or misheard aren't a consideration.

[daveisaclaret]

We don't know this was a racist comment and were the shoe on the other foot many of our pea brained supporters would be chanting similar stuff. A person should remain innocent until proved differently and TBH how on earth does one judge the "he said ......." " No, I said .......". Even Solomon would struggle there.

We do know actually as Hannibal has told us. You can chose to disbelieve him but don't act like it's a neutral decision.

[taio]

Until there's proof of what was said I'm inclined to keep an open mind about it.

[Stockbrokerbelt]

Just more proof how much the UK morals & standards have fallen in the last 10 years.

[HurstGrangeClaret]

I have lived in Preston for the best part of 50 years and with regards to the two main topics we are discussing, after speaking with some of my PNE supporting mates, they are determined to stand beside Osmajic, until he may be found guilty of racism.
The second is that they cannot believe how straightforward the game was for them yesterday. To quote one of my mates after the third goal went in. “I think I’m dreaming.”
That comment says everything about our performance.

[bumba]

Only two people in the world know exactly what was said, we all know what we think he said and I personally think he did say something racist but I very much doubt he'll get done for it.
If it was a court case it'd be thrown out because it's just he said this he said that, it cannot be proven.

[HurstGrangeClaret]

Only two people in the world know exactly what was said, we all know what we think he said and I personally think he did say something racist but I very much doubt he'll get done for it.
If it was a court case it'd be thrown out because it's just he said this he said that, it cannot be proven.

Sadly, I think you may be right Bumba.
As Heckinbottom originally said, however distasteful we may have found, just a case of he said, she said. Let’s hope not.

[RVclaret]

Only two people in the world know exactly what was said, we all know what we think he said and I personally think he did say something racist but I very much doubt he'll get done for it.
If it was a court case it'd be thrown out because it's just he said this he said that, it cannot be proven.

If they have another active camera angle in the ground it’s more than possible they can get professional lip readers in to give their opinion. And then the FA work off the balance of probabilities, it doesn’t have to be proven beyond reasonable doubt, simply, what was the more likely? Hannibal’s immediate reaction, the story from the players, Osmejic’s background / character etc.

[Spike]

Only 12000 Knobbers say it all
You cannot expect Silly Milly to know how to behave when all “his fans” sing about interbreeding

[HurstGrangeClaret]

Silly Milly is what he is.
The interbreeding song is just banter between opposing fans. We’ve certainly had worse thrown at us.

[Cleveleys_claret]

I just can't see that as an insult which is what the PNE said he said as "f off f off you bad man" is an insult, I don't know anybody who would say such a thing so I inclined to believe Hannibal. Just my opinion though

[BurnleyFC]

Our fans would’ve done the same, but of course he racially abused Hannibal.

Just look at his character. He’s a head case, and a racist one at that.

[Jakubclaret]

If they have another active camera angle in the ground it’s more than possible they can get professional lip readers in to give their opinion. And then the FA work off the balance of probabilities, it doesn’t have to be proven beyond reasonable doubt, simply, what was the more likely? Hannibal’s immediate reaction, the story from the players, Osmejic’s background / character etc.

I doubt any stories from the player's will hold much credibility they are always going to back up their team mate as we saw yesterday with the refusal to shake hands. He was in close proximity & when I looked at the footage he had his neck down I couldn't even tell if he was even speaking let alone trying to fathom out what he was saying there's no way a camera covers that. If the FA had anything really compelling it would have been done & dusted by now.

[RVclaret]

I doubt any stories from the player's will hold much credibility they are always going to back up their team mate as we saw yesterday with the refusal to shake hands. He was in close proximity & when I looked at the footage he had his neck down I couldn't even tell if he was even speaking let alone trying to fathom out what he was saying there's no way a camera covers that. If the FA had anything really compelling it would have been done & dusted by now.

The Evra Suarez one took well over a month.

[IanMcL]

Only two people in the world know exactly what was said, we all know what we think he said and I personally think he did say something racist but I very much doubt he'll get done for it.
If it was a court case it'd be thrown out because it's just he said this he said that, it cannot be proven.

Yes. For sure he said something, owing to the immediate reaction. As you say, the other player denies it. No one else heard it. Inconclusive. No action.

[Bowclaret]

I used to manage at kid’s level from under 7,s to under 16’s and I had a brilliant lad that played all the way through for me. He was a great kid and a fantastic footballer. He’s 23 now and a fantastic young man and now a Police Officer.

We got talking about the Hannibal incident yesterday.

Like Hannibal, he’s a person of colour and he mentioned that he was called racist names many many times on the football pitch when he played, more so at school.

I said to him why did you not report it and he told me he did once, at school and nothing was done - it was just laughed off !

My point being CLEARLY, something terrible was said to Hannibal, his reaction was pure shock. However, IF nothing is done about that thugs comments then it just proves that it’s perfectly fine for these thugs to abuse people about their colour because, simply nobody cares and therefore, no action so what’s the point in reporting it ? Exactly like Hannibal did !!!!!

I feel terribly sorry for Hannibal and after that conversation with the lad yesterday I just wished I could have done more for him when I was managing the kids teams back then.

I now have two young grandchildren and I don’t want them seeing footballers bite and allegedly - I have to say that word - racially abuse another footballer on a football pitch. It’s simply wrong on every level.

Again, I feel so sorry for Hannibal and just hope that thug gets what is coming to him - over to you authorities !!!!!

[Claretitus]

Yes. For sure he said something, owing to the immediate reaction. As you say, the other player denies it. No one else heard it. Inconclusive. No action.

Yep. Typical Eastern European racist. They’ve been getting away with it for years, and will continue to do so.

[TheFamilyCat]

Just look at the state of this -

https://www.pne-online.net/forum/thread ... s.3441731/

Thank god this board is well moderated.

We let ourselves down on the football side yesterday but my god Preston didn’t half show themselves up.

“Are you watching Hannibal” chanted at the end. I know every club has its knuckle draggers but everything about PNE yesterday raised the bar in that respect.

They’ll lose comfortably in the next round unless they fluke one from a dodgy bounce off their non-league pitch. Will make it a little bit sweeter down the line I guess when we beat them in the games that matter.

Yes, will be very sweet when we beat them in the games that matter...... oh, wait now.

[Indecisive]

Very easy for Preston fans to draw comparisons with the j rod incident.

Also fair enough for people to highlight the ‘previous’ of both Shelvey, and also our fanbase. The plane at city for eg, and tbh it’s not an awful long time since I heard really racist widespread chanting at ewood (early 2000’s granted).

Ultimately I’d guess a fair few of our following would take the approach of Preston fans on there if the roles were reversed.

I would say this though, Osmajics antagonising of the fans yesterday surely can’t help him with an FA panel. Think from his track record it would be really hard to argue the guy is anything other than a proper moron. If there was a way of establishing exactly what was said, and if it did turn out to be what Hannibal heard (and I’m pretty much certain that Hannibal is convinced something racist was said), I’d really like to see this lad out of the game. There clearly is nothing endearing about his character.


Hats off to our players for their stance on the handshake. They wanted to make clear to Hannibal he has their support.

[KRBFC]

Like Hannibal, he’s a person of colour

Not sure you’re allowed to use words like that anymore without being labelled a racist yourself.

[Bowclaret]

Not sure you’re allowed to use words like that anymore without being labelled a racist yourself.

See this is the problem - you should be ashamed !

You know exactly what I mean

PATHETIC !!!!

[Stalbansclaret]

Not sure you’re allowed to use words like that anymore without being labelled a racist yourself.

What on earth are you on about ?
Ridiculous comment.

[Jakubclaret]

The Evra Suarez one took well over a month.

Not well over a month it took 31 days which you could call a month. Apparently Suarez account of what happened was deemed unreliable hence favouring evras version of accounts. All I'm saying is that if it was that clear cut it would have been concluded sooner the reason it isn't is because the FA don't really know what to do. They have to be seen to be doing something & taking racism seriously but can't just charge people willy nilly on a whim.

[HurstGrangeClaret]

Not sure you’re allowed to use words like that anymore without being labelled a racist yourself.

Sadly, you are yet another person willing to throw the racist allegation around without any real evidence. The fact that the poster was trying to make a serious point seems to have passed you by completely.
As I said about a previous poster on a now deleted thread, people like you are dangerous.
Why behave like this to a fellow Claret?

[Ric_C]

Sadly, you are yet another person willing to throw the racist allegation around without any real evidence. The fact that the poster was trying to make a serious point seems to have passed you by completely.
As I said about a previous poster on a now deleted thread, people like you are dangerous.
Why behave like this to a fellow Claret?

Because he's an idiot, and just likes to wind people up, no matter how serious the subject

[claretonthecoast1882]

Not really surprised by some of the comments on clicking the link.

It is only a few days ago on there someone was wishing Hannibal to have his leg broke and another one using the N word with plenty laughing about it, the moderator on there decided to hide the posts and allow the users to carry on.

[Jamesy]

Very easy for Preston fans to draw comparisons with the j rod incident.

Also fair enough for people to highlight the ‘previous’ of both Shelvey, and also our fanbase. The plane at city for eg, and tbh it’s not an awful long time since I heard really racist widespread chanting at ewood (early 2000’s granted).

Ultimately I’d guess a fair few of our following would take the approach of Preston fans on there if the roles were reversed.

I would say this though, Osmajics antagonising of the fans yesterday surely can’t help him with an FA panel. Think from his track record it would be really hard to argue the guy is anything other than a proper moron. If there was a way of establishing exactly what was said, and if it did turn out to be what Hannibal heard (and I’m pretty much certain that Hannibal is convinced something racist was said), I’d really like to see this lad out of the game. There clearly is nothing endearing about his character.


Hats off to our players for their stance on the handshake. They wanted to make clear to Hannibal he has their support.

Are you forgetting that it wasn’t that long ago that Hannibal deliberately stamped on an opponent’s leg? He is far from an angel himself. I have got no truck with racism, however let’s not start saying things like let’s get this lad out of the game.

[Jakubclaret]

Are you forgetting that it wasn’t that long ago that Hannibal deliberately stamped on an opponent’s leg? He is far from an angel himself. I have got no truck with racism, however let’s not start saying things like let’s get this lad out of the game.

That's very conveniently overlooked. When you factor in that & the biting incident there cancel each other out in the angel like status scenario.

[mybloodisclaret]

Yep. Typical Eastern European racist. They’ve been getting away with it for years, and will continue to do so.

Wow, I take it irony isn't wasted on you?