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Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Mar 01, 2025 3:15 pm

Can someone please teach this lot how to take and execute a corner? I dread to think how many we’ve had this season and produced absolutely nothing. If you had a quid for every time our corners hit the first man you’d be loaded.
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Re: Corners

Post by trickytrev » Sat Mar 01, 2025 3:36 pm

Probaly better asking the set piece employed by the club?

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Re: Corners

Post by trickytrev » Sat Mar 01, 2025 3:37 pm

Probaly better asking the set piece coach employed by the club?

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Re: Corners

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Sat Mar 01, 2025 3:47 pm

It was obviously near post corner practice at the training ground last week - obviously practice didn’t go well
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Re: Corners

Post by Enola Gay » Sat Mar 01, 2025 3:59 pm

Still trying to get over that free-kick when Sarmiento had been bundled over on the edge of the area in the first half. Barely made it into the box, never mind past the first man.

Rancidly inept. Do we actually work on them at all?
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Re: Corners

Post by mickleoverclaret » Sat Mar 01, 2025 7:34 pm

Imagine where we'd be if we'd nicked even a couple of those 0-0s with a set piece goal.

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Re: Corners

Post by Murger » Sat Mar 01, 2025 7:41 pm

I’ve always said it, but any professional footballer who cannot get a set piece past first man, needs to be fined a weeks wages. Drives me insane.
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Re: Corners

Post by CatonClaret » Sat Mar 01, 2025 7:50 pm

I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say that since the set piece coach has come in last summer, we’ve been absolutely dreadful from an attacking perspective. Corners, free kicks, throw ins - the lot. Off the top of my head I can’t remember the last time we threatened from a set piece. We have height and players who should be able to whip in a decent ball.

If you worked in a sales role and didn’t make a sale in 18 months, you wouldn’t have a job…
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Re: Corners

Post by NottsClaret » Sat Mar 01, 2025 7:54 pm

You’d think eventually we’d just hit Steve’s head through the law of averages but apparently not.
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Re: Corners

Post by exilecanada » Sun Mar 02, 2025 5:57 pm

Dyche probably has some time on his hands, in between working on his golf handicap maybe he could pop in a couple days a week to help out with set pieces? :D

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Re: Corners

Post by dougcollins » Mon Mar 03, 2025 2:17 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sat Mar 01, 2025 3:15 pm
Can someone please teach this lot how to take and execute a corner?
We've executed all of our corners this season.

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Re: Corners

Post by claretcarrot93 » Mon Mar 03, 2025 2:42 pm

Always amuses me when the crowd roar when we get a corner. Whats the point ha

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Re: Corners

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Mon Mar 03, 2025 3:13 pm

Trafford has to be on his toes if we're taking a corner
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Re: Corners

Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon Mar 03, 2025 3:51 pm

There only needs to be a little tweak here and there, but the main problem to any routine, is the quality of delivery and timing of a run, to meet the delivery.

Apart from Arsenal this season, I'm not sure what the average strike rate is for 'set piece goals'. Unfortunately we don't have a set piece specialist.

However, Preston's second goal against us on Saturday, is the type of goal we should be striving for, more often than we seem to manage.

We've had some cleverly constructed goals, most recently against Sheff Wed, the Brownhill and Roberts goals.

Hopefully, now that Edwards has slotted in, his touch and vision will allow others to benefit, when it comes to breaking down packed defences.

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Re: Corners

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:33 pm

Edwards has already showed that he is an expert corner taker. Next step needed, please.

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Re: Corners

Post by The Shire Claret » Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:34 pm

would be good to see how many goals teams have scored from corners this season

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Re: Corners

Post by The Shire Claret » Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:47 pm

Not really an Isolated Burnley issue by the looks of it

7 goals from that 2.9% are from Derby and look where they are in the league ......

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Re: Corners

Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Mar 03, 2025 5:18 pm

It is frustrating .....but it looks quite difficult to actually take one from the cricket field end, there's not much room & a steep drop-off. I may be imagining it but it looks better at t' other end like..tha nose!

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Re: Corners

Post by Boss Hogg » Mon Mar 03, 2025 5:23 pm

I think you could pick any set piece coach out of a hat and appoint that person for a better outcome.

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Re: Corners

Post by pureclaret » Mon Mar 03, 2025 6:40 pm

he actually comes out to the edge of the box when opposition team are taking throw ins , and still gets it wrong

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Re: Corners

Post by Enola Gay » Mon Mar 03, 2025 6:44 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Mon Mar 03, 2025 2:17 pm
We've executed all of our corners this season.
I think the word you're looking for is 'butchered'...

Joking aside it's beyond a joke that we seemingly can't even manage the bog-standard 'stick it the mixer' corner and hope the law of averages sees a centre-half get a head on it.
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Re: Corners

Post by JohnDearyMe » Mon Mar 03, 2025 7:59 pm

Enola Gay wrote:
Mon Mar 03, 2025 6:44 pm
I think the word you're looking for is 'butchered'...

Joking aside it's beyond a joke that we seemingly can't even manage the bog-standard 'stick it the mixer' corner and hope the law of averages sees a centre-half get a head on it.
Pires showed vs Luton in the first game that he can whip in a decent cross. Not sure what's preventing him from doing the same thing since then.

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Re: Corners

Post by fatboy47 » Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:07 pm

It's a strange one...lumping a corner kick to land around the penalty spot in the howling gales and ankle deep mud of Shadlock was something the local adolescents could do wearing bell bottom levis and big brothers handed down convers without causing any gasps of amazement.

Much bigger ask nowadays clearly.
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Re: Corners

Post by Cheshireclaret » Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:12 pm

I’ve been one of the biggest critics of our set piece coach and rightly so in terms of attacking set pieces. Since Edwards has been on corners he’s put two or three right into the six yard box and caused problems - a PE teacher could tell you that tactic, never mind a set piece coach. Some of the other abominations have been incredible to see.

However, the same guy will also be responsible for our defending of opposition set pieces and I think it’s fair to say he’s smashing that brief!

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Re: Corners

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:15 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:47 pm
Not really an Isolated Burnley issue by the looks of it
7 goals from that 2.9% are from Derby and look where they are in the league ......

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We've had 180 corners in the league this season, so based on that stat (2.9%) we would have 5 goals from corners if we achieved the average.
We have scored 1.
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Re: Corners

Post by dougcollins » Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:57 pm

Enola Gay wrote:
Mon Mar 03, 2025 6:44 pm
I think the word you're looking for is 'butchered'...

Joking aside it's beyond a joke that we seemingly can't even manage the bog-standard 'stick it the mixer' corner and hope the law of averages sees a centre-half get a head on it.
Exactly the point I was making. I just used 'executed' because the OP used it.

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Re: Corners

Post by dougcollins » Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:58 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:07 pm
It's a strange one...lumping a corner kick to land around the penalty spot in the howling gales and ankle deep mud of Shadlock was something the local adolescents could do wearing bell bottom levis and big brothers handed down convers without causing any gasps of amazement.

Much bigger ask nowadays clearly.
I reckon I could still do it now.

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Re: Corners

Post by fatboy47 » Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:18 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:58 pm
I reckon I could still do it now.
Seem to remember you could stick it on a tanner with that left peg of yours doug 😉

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Re: Corners

Post by dougcollins » Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:19 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:18 pm
Seem to remember you could stick it on a tanner with that left peg of yours doug 😉
If only we had him now, eh?

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Re: Corners

Post by NewClaret » Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:27 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:47 pm
Not really an Isolated Burnley issue by the looks of it

7 goals from that 2.9% are from Derby and look where they are in the league ......


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Our record must be 0% though.

I wouldn’t even mind not scoring if we ever looked like causing any kind of danger from them. Even looking like we knew what we were doing would be enough for me.

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Re: Corners

Post by NewClaret » Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:29 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:15 pm
We've had 180 corners in the league this season, so based on that stat (2.9%) we would have 5 goals from corners if we achieved the average.
We have scored 1.
Wish I’d read that before posting above. In short, we’re just nowhere near good enough at them and it’s a major area for improvement.

I’d be having an extra hour in every training session on them until we looked half competent.

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Re: Corners

Post by NewClaret » Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:37 pm

Murger wrote:
Sat Mar 01, 2025 7:41 pm
I’ve always said it, but any professional footballer who cannot get a set piece past first man, needs to be fined a weeks wages. Drives me insane.
I’m exactly the same.

My kids Sunday team whip in inswingers every week consistently. Never hit the first man, never over hit, so I just cannot work out how professional footballers cannot deliver good corners. Inexcusable.

Let’s hope Edwards relieves our pain.

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Re: Corners

Post by HurstGrangeClaret » Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:08 am

Wouldn’t you think that they’d have one or two players, both left and right, pulled to one side each training session and told to practice corner kicks. It really isn’t rocket science.

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Re: Corners

Post by AfloatinClaret » Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:13 am

The corner kicks are better than we are at throw-ins. That's nothing new, I can't ever remember Burnley being any good with those; I often worry that the thrower will get booked for time wasting while the rest play their 'how to stay in range but inaccessible' game.

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Re: Corners

Post by ChorltonCharlie » Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:00 am

Think people are underestimating the part played by the people in the middle. O'Shea was good at attacking corners and no surprise we scored from a corner in the game he played. CJ and Esteve are rubbish at it, as are Flemming/Foster. The only player who's looked half decent at attacking set piece balls is Humphreys, but his finishing hasn't been good enough. Edwards has put in better balls, so hopefully that may help even if it leads to 1 or 2 scrappy goals.

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Re: Corners

Post by Darnhill Claret » Tue Mar 04, 2025 11:11 am

Having one of our shorter players stood at the near post, until just before our corner is taken, who then leaves his position, to retreat to the far post area. He should then be replaced by a near post run by someone able to flick on a ball from the near post, into the mixer. A job maybe for CJ or Steeve as they seem ineffective where they do position themselves.

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Re: Corners

Post by dougcollins » Tue Mar 04, 2025 11:32 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:37 pm
I’m exactly the same.

My kids Sunday team whip in inswingers every week consistently. Never hit the first man, never over hit, so I just cannot work out how professional footballers cannot deliver good corners. Inexcusable.

Let’s hope Edwards relieves our pain.
There must be an instruction to hit that flat near post ball that never comes off, otherwise we wouldn't be doing it so much.

The baffling bit is continuing to do it and trying to defy all recent evidence that it's actually going to work.

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Re: Corners

Post by dsr » Tue Mar 04, 2025 11:55 am

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:13 am
The corner kicks are better than we are at throw-ins. That's nothing new, I can't ever remember Burnley being any good with those; I often worry that the thrower will get booked for time wasting while the rest play their 'how to stay in range but inaccessible' game.
That's where Roberts comes into play. He has a reasonably long throw, so even from the edge of the opponents' box he effective at throwing it back to half way for the centre halves to recycle it to Trafford.
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Re: Corners

Post by The Shire Claret » Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:42 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:15 pm
We've had 180 corners in the league this season, so based on that stat (2.9%) we would have 5 goals from corners if we achieved the average.
We have scored 1.
it's certainly not a good return .... my point was it's not a Burnley issue as it seems there are a good few teams producing little from corners...

and the team with the most conversions are dead bottom

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Re: Corners

Post by nonayclaret » Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:35 pm

I hear they are introducing giving a corner next season if the keeper holds onto the ball for more than 8 seconds.
So we need to practice them!
Throw ins too, we do not seem to be able to create space for a simple throw in without taking ages.

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