The SUPER CLARETS vs The Baggies - Match Thread

[expoultryboy]

I thought the baggies worked hard tonight and battled well for every ball .

[Tufty]

We didn't play badly at all and it certainly isn't Scott Parkers fault we couldn't find a way through. We were probing and constantly looking to get through their defence but they defended very well and countered every move we tried. I never quite understand why some supporters think it's such a simple thing to create goal scoring chances. It isn't. But as long as we're trying then I can appreciate that. Of course it's frustrating we didn't win but you can't let that dictate unfair criticism.

Well you can...but you shouldn't. Life goes on...nobody died.

[Bigvince]

Did anyone think that would be an easy game. They drew at Leeds last week. Another point on the board.

Also drew at Sheffield Utd

[Tall Paul]

Calm down lads ,I reckon most fans expected a struggle tonight ,however have we beaten any of the top 6 on the Turf?

Yes

[TsarBomba]

Why don't you **** off and try and support for once - that's after you've finished sucking on your mums tit.

I enjoy reading your level headed comments on the whole, but that’s taking it a bit far.

People are annoyed that we haven’t managed a single shot on goal in the second half in a game we could’ve done with winning.

[Cooclaret]

That’s fake news

This is a forum for fans to have an opinion whether positive or negative. You were the biggest whining cry baby arse last season after every game, yet I’m not allowed to comment after a frustrating negative draw?

Absolutely on the money. His comment earlier in the thread was awful.

His mate will be along soon to add his two pennies.

[IPAclaret]

Silly trip fro CJ but a red card after the final whistle ? It's not dangerous play, how has the ref made that decision, especially after everything he let go all game.

This on top of the farce that was their goal, the ridiculous free kick he awarded, which he then ignored them moving the ball away from where it should have been taken from.

[Tribesmen]

It was a good game and fair play to West Brom as they played well .
So we have to take a draw not the worst it could have been .

[boatshed bill]

Interestingly, our young (failed) prospect Callum Styles did very well against our star man.
Funny old game

[Mixedkompany]

Disappointing but West Brom played a high press and pinned back Edwards. When he went off I thought that was it. And so it proved.
I thought we needed to try him inside for ten minutes running off long balls to Foster. The two reds were ridiculous at that point in the game. Still Sheff Utd must be gutted giving away two points at the end. Let’s hope the CJ red doesn’t cost us.

[Casper2]

Nothing lost we are the same as before the game.

There's some proper dummies spat out tonight with the negativity crew out in force.

Where were they on Saturday lol

Rovers and Leeds playing tomorrow btw

Why would anyone be negative after a 4-0 win ?

[CrosspoolClarets]

Gotta be honest, Parker’s innate conservatism aside, which remains deeply frustrating and may or may not work, this is a great league.

It’s like all the players and refs are given crystal meth in the tunnel then it all goes to hell.

[TsarBomba]

We didn't play badly at all and it certainly isn't Scott Parkers fault we couldn't find a way through. We were probing and constantly looking to get through their defence but they defended very well and countered every move we tried. I never quite understand why some supporters think it's such a simple thing to create goal scoring chances. It isn't. But as long as we're trying then I can appreciate that. Of course it's frustrating we didn't win but you can't let that dictate unfair criticism.

Well you can...but you shouldn't. Life goes on...nobody died.

I don’t think it’s unfair to criticise when we haven’t mustered a single shot on target in the entire second half.

It simply wasn’t good enough tonight.

[JLR81]

Thought WBA played well, very energetic high pressing.

We looked a little bit off it.

Draw fair result.

Bristol City pulling one out of the bag late has changed the impact of the result.

[Stonehouse]

CJ isn’t the last man, he cynically trips the player. It’s a yellow.

The game had finished,its violent conduct.

[HahaYeah]

I thought we could have put Koleosho on a bit earlier.

[Greenmile]

That’s fake news

This is a forum for fans to have an opinion whether positive or negative. You were the biggest whining cry baby arse last season after every game, yet I’m not allowed to comment after a frustrating negative draw?

The key word here is “fans”. You’ve never been a Burnley fan; just a Kompany fanboy.

[KRBFC]

Bringing off Hannibal and putting on Laurent with 15 to go is a joke.

Why is he always rotating the strikers? It hasn’t worked all season long, why not try them both at the same time?

We need to win at home and it’s the same naff like for like changes which is the most frustrating thing. Make the brave positive changes and if we don’t win, so be it, at least we actually tried something different.

[FCBurnley]

Have to appeal it

[boyyanno]

I enjoy reading your level headed comments on the whole, but that’s taking it a bit far.

People are annoyed that we haven’t managed a single shot on goal in the second half in a game we could’ve done with winning.

I think the comment is too far but there are some people who are deliberately inflammatory with what they post.

Being annoyed we didn't play great and not winning is one thing. Pretending the manager doesn't want to win games and is a coward is another.

[Stonehouse]

That's not the laws of the game

Pushing someone is deliberate retaliation. That's not a red card unless it's to the head

It can only be a red card for violent conduct or endangering an opponent. Its a cynical trip from CJER, and no more.

Sorry I think you’ll find that the refs report will say violent conduct.

[CoolClaret]

I enjoy reading your level headed comments on the whole, but that’s taking it a bit far.

People are annoyed that we haven’t managed a single shot on goal in the second half in a game we could’ve done with winning.

Appreciate that.

As for me - I'm utterly sick of certain toxic posters who post nothing but agenda-fuelled toxic negativity at every turn, little to no nuance about any situation and ruin threads so yes, gave it back.

[rosswallacefreekick]

We didn't play badly at all and it certainly isn't Scott Parkers fault we couldn't find a way through. We were probing and constantly looking to get through their defence but they defended very well and countered every move we tried. I never quite understand why some supporters think it's such a simple thing to create goal scoring chances. It isn't. But as long as we're trying then I can appreciate that. Of course it's frustrating we didn't win but you can't let that dictate unfair criticism.

Well you can...but you shouldn't. Life goes on...nobody died.

Thanks for the reminder Tufty. There’s so much potential in the team, and it feels like we’ve been ready to take off all season. It’s a frustrating watch when it’s another game that we haven’t managed it, but you’re right.

[ClaretMat]

Nobody seems to have mentioned that the player who committed the offence against CJ had made at least three cynical fouls on Esteve and somehow wasn't carded (mainly because Esteve was far too good for him). Not punishing that then menant he felt he could get away with another one. CJ shouldn't have reacted how he did, but weak refereeing lead to that situation.

[IPAclaret]

The game had finished,its violent conduct.

It's not violent conduct, it's a silly trip after being elbowed. The club must appeal it.

[Dark Cloud]

West Brom are more than decent. They're organised, well drilled, fit and have a very astute manager who worked us out and set them up to stifle us. Apart from 20 minutes in the first half after we equalised when we were suddenly totally dominant, we struggled to break through them and our opportunities were very limited. The worst thing about tonight in the end is the bloody red card unfortunately (oh, and the referee who is utterly awful!!)

[CoolClaret]

That’s fake news

This is a forum for fans to have an opinion whether positive or negative. You were the biggest whining cry baby arse last season after every game, yet I’m not allowed to comment after a frustrating negative draw?

I criticised the approach to the season and the fact that the manager was clearly taking liberties.

When we battled, I appreciated the effort. Completely different scenarios. You have posted toxic negativity about every manager since you've posted on here not named VK.

[GetIntoEm]

Well people wanted more exciting games. Happy now?

[Quickenthetempo]

Why does Parker never try and win the game in the last 5 minutes. Take a risk, put extra men forward. Get animated on the touchline like you care and are desperate for 3 points.

[Casper2]

Appreciate that.

As for me - I'm utterly sick of certain toxic posters who post nothing but agenda-fuelled toxic negativity at every turn, little to no nuance about any situation and ruin threads so yes, gave it back.

I don’t think a messageboard is for you, “you gave it back “,what does that even mean, you called the guys mother , totally unacceptable.
Other posters will always have different opinions that’s the whole point of a messageboard.

[jojomk1]

I thought we could have put Koleosho on a bit earlier.

Still don't think we would have won with twelve men

[Roosterbooster]

Sorry I think you’ll find that the refs report will say violent conduct.

I'm sure it will

But that's not violent conduct, either by any sensible interpretation of the laws, or just plain common sense

But the laws of the game is the crucial thing. It talks specifically about a few things - excessive force, brutality, endangering opponents - and nothing more. Tripping is none of these

I absolutely disagree with you about it being a red card, based on nothing more than the application of the laws of the game. If a cynical trip was a red card, we'd see it week in week out

But I am not in the slight bit surprised to see this ref give a red. He's been appalling in every game. And other team's fans think so too.

[Casper2]

West Brom are more than decent. They're organised, well drilled, fit and have a very astute manager who worked us out and set them up to stifle us. Apart from 20 minutes in the first half after we equalised when we were suddenly totally dominant, we struggled to break through them and our opportunities were very limited. The worst thing about tonight in the end is the bloody red card unfortunately (oh, and the referee who is utterly awful!!)

Yes so decent , hadn’t won in 10 away games and lost to Plymouth and Derby in that run .

[TPClaret]

Yes so decent , hadn’t won in 10 away games and lost to Plymouth and Derby in that run .

Were most of those before Mowbray came in. Derby who beat in form Coventry tonight

[KRBFC]

I criticised the approach to the season and the fact that the manager was clearly taking liberties.

When we battled, I appreciated the effort. Completely different scenarios. You have posted toxic negativity about every manager since you've posted on here not named VK.

You criticised everyone and everything last season after every game, I was sick of your toxicity, now you’ve had a personality transplant you want a forum where only you can post?

I have been very balanced this season, praised when deserved and wrote many positive things about Parker. It’s not my problem you focus on the negatives only.

[CoolClaret]

I don’t think a messageboard is for you, “you gave it back “,what does that even mean, you called the guys mother , totally unacceptable.
Other posters will always have different opinions that’s the whole point of a messageboard.

It was more suggesting he's an overgrown toddler.

Different opinions are fine, if it's a well reasoned argument, not hysterical crap!

[dougcollins]

I thought that the ‘pedal to the floor’ thing from SP was just so much ********.

Tonight he just reverted to the must not lose philosophy we showed in all those previous draws this season.

[Andreshotboots]

Albion are a good side, they're in 5th for a reason..I'll take a point, could have been zero but for the bar, I know Anthony grazed it but there's was far closer..

This was always going to be one of the toughest games we've got left and ultimately we've not lost ground on the Blades...

[Devils_Advocate]

It was more suggesting he's an overgrown toddler.

Different opinions are fine, if it's a well reasoned argument, not hysterical crap!

Give it a rest for once. Your comment was out of order and now you're just continuing on with it like you always do throttling the discussion for everyone else

[GetIntoEm]

As frustrating as the result was I actually enjoyed the game tonight, thought we played quite well at times. I think foster going off ruined the plan for the last 10. Shame.

[CoolClaret]

Give it a rest for once. Your comment was out of order and now you're just continuing on with it like you always do throttling the discussion for everyone else

Rich coming from the most boring poster on here

[dvalley69]

I'm sure it will

But that's not violent conduct, either by any sensible interpretation of the laws, or just plain common sense

But the laws of the game is the crucial thing. It talks specifically about a few things - excessive force, brutality, endangering opponents - and nothing more. Tripping is none of these

I absolutely disagree with you about it being a red card, based on nothing more than the application of the laws of the game. If a cynical trip was a red card, we'd see it week in week out

But I am not in the slight bit surprised to see this ref give a red. He's been appalling in every game. And other team's fans think so too.

You do realise he ran after him though.. it wasn't just a trip like a normal foul. I think it was more CJ's intention that did it for him. Whether that warrants a red is another matter.

[KlyBfc]

We are third in the league, 24 unbeaten and i still would dance a jig of great delight if Scott Parker left tomorrow. The thought of watching another season of his football philosophy brings me close to giving up my season ticket. For me it’s not drawing with WBA wrc it’s the way we go about it. I watched closely last 10mins as our wide men hugged the touch line and Barnes stood on his own surrounded by WBA players in the middle. We passed it out sidewards backwards and hoof. No chance and no bodies around Barnes.

Then as we crept to the end of injury time we had a last chance to throw bodies into the box, Esteve went to go forward and was sent back (despite no west brom player being forward.

The rigidity and must not lose b******s is absolutely killing me in these games.

2 wins at home v teams in the top 10… 1 when cov had no manager and rhe other sheff wed… its painful

[Vino blanco]

Haven’t read any other comments but I thought we were out-fought, out-played and out-tacticked especially in the second half. Our front three of Edwards, Flemming and Anthony was far too weak against their back five/six. We went back to too much sideways and backward passing, which is frustrating to watch.

[CoolClaret]

We are third in the league, 24 unbeaten and i still would dance a jig of great delight if Scott Parker left tomorrow. The thought of watching another season of his football philosophy brings me close to giving up my season ticket. For me it’s not drawing with WBA wrc it’s the way we go about it. I watched closely last 10mins as our wide men hugged the touch line and Barnes stood on his own surrounded by WBA players in the middle. We passed it out sidewards backwards and hoof. No chance and no bodies around Barnes.

Then as we crept to the end of injury time we had a last chance to throw bodies into the box, Esteve went to go forward and was sent back (despite no west brom player being forward.

The rigidity and must not lose b******s is absolutely killing me in these games.

2 wins at home v teams in the top 10… 1 when cov had no manager and rhe other sheff wed… its painful

Which player do you think should have accompanied Barnes up front?

[HahaYeah]

There were some disappointing long balls in the second half - especially towards Edwards.

[TsarBomba]

As frustrating as the result was I actually enjoyed the game tonight, thought we played quite well at times. I think foster going off ruined the plan for the last 10. Shame.

Played well in terms of keeping the ball? Playing triangles in our own third?

I don’t mean to be facetious, but I’m intrigued to know what makes you think we played quite well?

We do a lot right, but tonight was a continuation of the other dozen or so games where we’ve not shown enough intent to win. It’s another second half like many before that we’ve just allowed to drift. I don’t understand it.

WBA are a good team of course, so perhaps tonight can’t be put in the same category of some of the dross we’ve seen, but I’m just baffled that in a game we could’ve done with winning, we’ve only had 2 shots on target all game and none in the second half.

I think that’s criminal at this stage of the season, when we’re running out of games and playing catch up.

[warksclaret]

If I was an Albion fan, I would be really pleased with that result, and the lad Styles who we let go, has had a cracking game in both matches against us this season

[CoolClaret]

Played well in terms of keeping the ball? Playing triangles in our own third?

I don’t mean to be facetious, but I’m intrigued to know what makes you think we played quite well?

We do a lot right, but tonight was a continuation of the other dozen or so games where we’ve not shown enough intent to win. It’s another second half like many before that we’ve just allowed to drift. I don’t understand it.

WBA are a good team of course, so perhaps tonight can’t be put in the same category of some of the dross we’ve seen, but I’m just baffled that in a game we could’ve done with winning, we’ve only had 2 shots on target all game and none in the second half.

I think that’s criminal at this stage of the season, when we’re running out of games and playing catch up.

If Foster hadn't have pulled up he probably gets on the end of that ball from Pires and we're all buzzing. They set up for the smash and grab and tbh it was a very intense, high-level champ game.

We moved the ball quickly in the second half and tried to work some openings, it just didn't come off. That's football. Certainly wasn't through a lack of effort.

[KlyBfc]

Which player do you think should have accompanied Barnes up front?

If we were trying to win a game of football

Brownhill and Laurent closer to him should he win it or lose it for the sepcnd ball, the Widemen narrower looking to run beyond him or drop
Into pockets should it get flicked on. Maybe even a manager that actually occasionally tries to play 2 up top can cause different problems for a back 3 /5 wouldnt have taken flemming off in the first place