Have Blackburn had the worst ever week in the championship?

[houseboy]

Is it realistic to suspect any club would sabotage their own promotion?..
I know plenty of the bestial 4,000 keep bleating this idea but under what scenario could this possibly be the case?

Free money plus the chance to recoup most of their £230m before getting the whole sh1tshow off their backs?.
No brainer surely?

According to my Rover son-in-law he has heard that they actually want promotion badly in order to sell the club as a PL outfit, which makes sense I suppose. This nonsense about not wanting promotion is a fallacy made up by the moaners (of which there are many).
He has actually said to me yesterday that he is sick of Rovers fan base. He is realistic and loves football (and Rovers) but he readily admits they are at best a very average Championship outfit and he is sick of the ‘plastics’ who still cling to the ridiculous idea they are somehow a PL club in waiting. He reckons the level of entitlement, given the clubs situation over quite a few years now, is beyond belief.

[Bosscat]

According to my Rover son-in-law he has heard that they actually want promotion badly in order to sell the club as a PL outfit, which makes sense I suppose. This nonsense about not wanting promotion is a fallacy made up by the moaners (of which there are many).
He has actually said to me yesterday that he is sick of Rovers fan base. He is realistic and loves football (and Rovers) but he readily admits they are at best a very average Championship outfit and he is sick of the ‘plastics’ who still cling to the ridiculous idea they are somehow a PL club in waiting. He reckons the level of entitlement, given the clubs situation over quite a few years now, is beyond belief.

Your Son-in-law sounds very much like the 2 Rovers I chat to in the Pub ... heartily sick of the entitled "Plastic" ones infesting their club.

We chat football (and have a bit of banter too ... its got to be done ) in general mostly ... bemoaning the moving of matches to ridiculous times for Sky TV etc ... similar with the DL fans and others.

[blatherwickstattoos]

Their world wide fan base will be up in arms according to hutchy. it’s magnificent to see

[Hutchy]

Do you actually believe that a club in 6th place can guarantee promotion by spending an extra £3m-£4m? Does that apply to the teams in all the top 6 places - if they all spend £3m-£4m, they will all go up?

If Venky's pushed their annual giving from £20m to £24m, it would guarantee nothing, and it would be an extra £4m that they will never see again. It seems a bit counterproductive to whinge that the Venky's aren't giving enough and then asking them to stop giving the £20m each year that they do.

That's a very passive attitude if I may say so pal and one, that I don't think you would adopt if Pace was doing the same thing at Burnley.

If he was ignoring good opportunities every January and Burnley's top 6 hopes embarrassingly fell away year after year...would you be saying "ah well, he pays the bills, there's no guarantee any January spend would have taken us up, I'm grateful we're competing at this level and we aren't like Bury"?

I think you know the answer.

There's no guarantee, yes, but one thing is for sure. If you decide to do nothing, there is very little chance of anything good happening. That is precisely what Waggott and Pasha have been doing under Venky's watch for years now, particularly when Rovers have been inside the top 6 come January.

At some point you have to speculate to accumulate. They aren't doing. At all.

These are billionaires we are talking about. £3m to them is chicken feed, but can make a big difference in the hands of a good manager like JDT or Eustace, who both had them looking promising. They only needed a few smart additions, which could have been attained with that extra few millions. Instead, both were treated like crap and driven into leaving.

If I'm wrong to ask for this extra few million, fair enough. How about the following. Tony Mowbray said this upon leaving Rovers:

"If you want to win (promotion), you need to spend some money".

That wasn't him being entitled or spoilt, or wishing Jack Walker was still around. That was him sending a message to India and to the disgruntled fans. Basically telling the fans that they (owners) need to spend, if you want promotion. He's telling the fans what the issue is.

When JDT left he told the fans to "ask Steve (Wagott) and Suhail (Pasha).

When Eustace left he told the fans he received no assurances about future investment, contracts or a long term plan.

These managers aren't happy for Rovers to sit doing nothing in the Championship, they know the hierarchy is ****, so why should their fans be expected to put up with it?

"They were in the Second Division in the 80s" does not justify Venky's running of the club, nor does it mean what's happening today should be acceptable. It's not on. This is a Premier League club that is being treated like this.

[Hutchy]

'a prized piece that is recognised worldwide and missed'

This has got to be the funniest thing written anywhere, ever since humans learnt to communicate. I don't even know where to start with this one. I used to think hutchy was just your typical self entitled bturd fan but no one can possibly be this delusional therefore he must be on the wind up.

Move over DA it was good while it lasted but we've a new idiot in town with fresh material and an encyclopedia like knowledge of all things shadsworth but claims to be a Claret.

It's hilarious stuff. Keep it coming hutchy, you're keeping us all entertained as are your team and fanbase who once again, started OK, got giddy, wet themselves with excitement and gobbed off a lot. And then it all went sadly ti-ts up as per usual after the cup final loss to us in January.

200 million in debt. Tick tock. What goes around comes around.

Long may it continue.

5 in a row at Ewood, 15 years and counting.

UTC

It's not meant to be hilarious, but it's a genuine point.

Would you agree that there are certain clubs who belong in the Premier League and that them not being there feels wrong? This is not entitlement, but it's a genuine point made based on history.

Clubs like Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton and Blackburn (as much as people won't accept it here) and a few others all belong in the Premier League. They are all a part of the Premier League furniture. That's the point I was making. People around the world genuinely miss seeing Blackburn in the Premier League. This is not a joke. You will find many such comments across the internet.

There will be people on here who only know Blackburn Rovers as a Premier League club due to their age, who have then seen Venky's wreck the club (hence the India flags). This is also the case the world over. Why do so many neutral fans out there mention "Tugay", "Friedel", "Gamst Pedersen", "Bentley", "Benni McCarthy", "Shearer", "Hendry" and more in places like Malaysia, Singapore, Nigeria, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Turkey, Morocco?

There are many comments of the "**** chicken owners ruining Blackburn" too out there. If this is just some crap Championship club, none of the above happens. It's because they are a Premier League name with weight that there is such respect out there. It's actually nice to see how much reach football has.

The sad thing is there are Blackburn fans out there who respect their own club and its history less than some of these neutrals. Those Rovers fans calling others in their fanbase plastic/entitled and who praise Venky's are completely lost. They have forgotten who they support and the calibre of their own club.

[ClaretDiver]

Oh Hutchy you really are the gift that keeps on giving! Genuine contender for poster of the century!

[Hutchy]

Let us just assume for a minute that your hare-brained theory that the owners do not want promotion - with the Premier League riches for one season - makes sense, why sabotage a play-off place? A home semi-final gives them a great opportunity to fleece you suckers more, plus possibly a lucrative Wembley final. This is where they would sabotage.

Just a theory, but would that not be too late? They would be in with a genuine shout of going up by that stage. They can't control the outcome of games.

[mickleoverclaret]

There will be people on here who only know Blackburn Rovers as a Premier League club due to their age

I doubt there are many people posting on here who died thirteen years ago, to be fair.

[ecc]

"Clubs like Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton and Blackburn (as much as people won't accept it here) and a few others all belong in the Premier League."

Made my day, that.

[fatboy47]

These are billionaires we are talking about. £3m to them is chicken feed,

And there we have it...the central plank of the entire entitled debate.
""We should be given massive subsidies because our owners are rich""
Over £6k spunked for every STH and still they squeal for more like four thousand Oliver Twists.

Have some class and dignity ffs.

[IPAclaret]

It's not meant to be hilarious, but it's a genuine point.

Would you agree that there are certain clubs who belong in the Premier League and that them not being there feels wrong? This is not entitlement, but it's a genuine point made based on history.

Clubs like Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton and Blackburn (as much as people won't accept it here) and a few others all belong in the Premier League. They are all a part of the Premier League furniture. That's the point I was making. People around the world genuinely miss seeing Blackburn in the Premier League. This is not a joke. You will find many such comments across the internet.

There will be people on here who only know Blackburn Rovers as a Premier League club due to their age, who have then seen Venky's wreck the club (hence the India flags). This is also the case the world over. Why do so many neutral fans out there mention "Tugay", "Friedel", "Gamst Pedersen", "Bentley", "Benni McCarthy", "Shearer", "Hendry" and more in places like Malaysia, Singapore, Nigeria, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Turkey, Morocco?

There are many comments of the "**** chicken owners ruining Blackburn" too out there. If this is just some crap Championship club, none of the above happens. It's because they are a Premier League name with weight that there is such respect out there. It's actually nice to see how much reach football has.

The sad thing is there are Blackburn fans out there who respect their own club and its history less than some of these neutrals. Those Rovers fans calling others in their fanbase plastic/entitled and who praise Venky's are completely lost. They have forgotten who they support and the calibre of their own club.

You're trying to hard now. You are talking complete bol-lox and you know it. It was midly amusing initially. People around the world do not miss the turds in the Prem and the turds certainly do not deserve to be there. You are a small town team who had a brief moment in the sun thanks to uncle Jack's tax dodge but you're back where you were, as everyone knows.

But by all means keep it going, it's genuinely very funny. Most clarets know exactly what the bturds are. Hopefully the money train from Pune, India will stop once and for all, let's see what happens then. Fun time.

UTC

[Volvoclaret]

"To the Venkys £3 million is chicken feed."
Well it made me laugh.

[Hutchy]

Are we just going to pretend you didn' p*** your parachute money on the likes on Leon Best, Danny Murphy and Dixon Etuhu, all for substantial fees/wages? Not to mention the record signing of Rhodes during the same window for c£8m.

I'm pretty sure that can be classed as an attempt to go back up.

On paper it looks like an attempt to go up. In reality though, it wasn't. The backdrop to that 2012/13 season, was that Rovers had 5 different managers during that campaign. Kean, Black, Berg, Appleton, Bowyer. Some money was spent, but there was chaos in the background meaning there was no chance of promotion. Sound familiar? 12 years on, the same crap is happening, minus the Parachute Payments.

Anyway, those Parachute Payments were blown without any sort of plan. It was the equivalent of a lottery payout falling into the hands of somebody who has never seen such money before, with said person being taken for a ride by chancers and hangers on.

Ageing midfielders in Murphy and Etuhu, legs had gone, but they came for one last big payday. They spent the next few years paying them off. Leon Best, an absolute knob, never a promotion signing.

Rhodes, I'll give you. But an interesting/bizarre story on that one:

The late Shebby Singh asked a Rovers fan to recommend him a striker to sign. The fan flippantly told him "I dunno, maybe Marouane Chamakh (at Arsenal)". The next day, the story is all over the papers "Rovers bid for Chamakh".

Shebby later informs the same fan that his bid for Chamakh was rejected and asks him "now what?". The fan, shocked at this question, tells Shebby "go and get Jordan Rhodes from Huddersfield, he's the striker Rovers need, a proven goal scorer". Days later, Shebby signs Rhodes for £8m.

This was the kind of crazy stuff that was going on. Yes, Venky's sanctioned that £8m spend, but just like the money spent on Brereton and Gallagher, this wasn't a signing with the goal being promotion. Remember the upheaval I mentioned that season. It was a 'how much can we sell him for down the line' signing.

[IPAclaret]

On paper it looks like an attempt to go up. In reality though, it wasn't. The backdrop to that 2012/13 season, was that Rovers had 5 different managers during that campaign. Kean, Black, Berg, Appleton, Bowyer. Some money was spent, but there was chaos in the background meaning there was no chance of promotion. Sound familiar? 12 years on, the same crap is happening, minus the Parachute Payments.

Anyway, those Parachute Payments were blown without any sort of plan. It was the equivalent of a lottery payout falling into the hands of somebody who has never seen such money before, with said person being taken for a ride by chancers and hangers on.

Ageing midfielders in Murphy and Etuhu, legs had gone, but they came for one last big payday. They spent the next few years paying them off. Leon Best, an absolute knob, never a promotion signing.

Rhodes, I'll give you. But an interesting/bizarre story on that one:

The late Shebby Singh asked a Rovers fan to recommend him a striker to sign. The fan flippantly told him "I dunno, maybe Marouane Chamakh (at Arsenal)". The next day, the story is all over the papers "Rovers bid for Chamakh".

Shebby later informs the same fan that his bid for Chamakh was rejected and asks him "now what?". The fan, shocked at this question, tells Shebby "go and get Jordan Rhodes from Huddersfield, he's the striker Rovers need, a proven goal scorer". Days later, Shebby signs Rhodes for £8m.

This was the kind of crazy stuff that was going on. Yes, Venky's sanctioned that £8m spend, but just like the money spent on Brereton and Gallagher, this wasn't a signing with the goal being promotion. Remember the upheaval I mentioned that season. It was a 'how much can we sell him for down the line' signing.

It's a bit like stand up comedy.

[Hutchy]

Morning Hutchy.

Can you lend me £3million, please? After all, it’s not a stupid level of money I’m asking you for, is it? I’ll probably be able to pay you back at some point.

How about if I told you that, 20-odd years ago, some other mug gave me £300m, no questions asked? That surely means I’m entitled to a measly £3m of your hard-earned, doesn’t it?

If not, why not? If you won’t lend me the money, why tf do you expect Venkys to pump it into your shambling wreck of a club with no guaranteed return?

That analogy doesn't stack up and you know it. Our normal everyday work and business logic does not apply to the world of football. They are operating in a different world entirely to us financially. Which is why questions like "who else would would put in £15m-£20m a year to cover Rovers losses?" aren't as black and white as some think they are. Venky's haven't blinked up until the recent court case, as they have the money.

There are plenty of other prospective owners out there who could not only cover those but also bring such losses down at Rovers. We're talking about multi millionaires backed by wealthy consortiums and in many cases, billionaires, buying football clubs.

I am not a billionaire and you haven't sold me the idea that I stand a chance of making £150m back if I lend you the £3m.

Why should Venky's invest that extra £3m or £4m? Because they own the club that's why and they'd be showing some intent to go up. It's not a charity that they would be lending to, it's what you do when you own a football club and you want to win. They are not arsed about winning though.

[Hutchy]

According to my Rover son-in-law he has heard that they actually want promotion badly in order to sell the club as a PL outfit, which makes sense I suppose. This nonsense about not wanting promotion is a fallacy made up by the moaners (of which there are many).
He has actually said to me yesterday that he is sick of Rovers fan base. He is realistic and loves football (and Rovers) but he readily admits they are at best a very average Championship outfit and he is sick of the ‘plastics’ who still cling to the ridiculous idea they are somehow a PL club in waiting. He reckons the level of entitlement, given the clubs situation over quite a few years now, is beyond belief.

They badly want promotion? Ha. I've heard it all. I can almost guarantee your son in law was Kean out, Venky's out in the early days, but later gave up all hope of change at the club and decided to just be positive instead and bury his head in the sand.

If that is a wrong assessment, I apologise. There are too many in that fanbase who have trodded that path, which is who I refer to next.

They don't like hearing the truth about the ownership, they don't like reading/hearing "negativity". They don't like what has happened to Rovers since 2010, but in order to protect their mental states, they start to block out what Venky's have done, they try to lie to themselves about what the last 15 years have been like and decide to take the "positive" route instead. That being "ah well, at least Venky's are paying the bills, it could be worse, relegation was inevitable anyway, Venky's were badly advised, at least Rovers aren't like Wigan/Bury etc, these plastic fans who are moaning are to blame, they are entitled, spoilt, they make us look bad, just get behind the lads ffs".

Those of you who know Rovers fans with similar views to the son in law and the other poster's Rovers pals, please apply my explanation above to those lads/lasses and assess for yourselves. You will see that I am spot on. They have given up and are trying to maintain a positive mental state. It's fake positivity. They know it deep down.

Many of that fanbase have given up. Many are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome yet ridiculously portray themselves as being wise and realistic Rovers fans. Downplaying the club and it's history at every turn. Playing straight into the hands Venky's and Waggott. They've been conned and have forgotten who they claim to support.

[Bosscat]

They badly want promotion? Ha. I've heard it all. I can almost guarantee your son in law was Kean out, Venky's out in the early days, but later gave up all hope of change at the club and decided to just be positive instead and bury his head in the sand.

If that is a wrong assessment, I apologise. There are too many in that fanbase who have trodded that path, which is who I refer to next.

They don't like hearing the truth about the ownership, they don't like reading/hearing "negativity". They don't like what has happened to Rovers since 2010, but in order to protect their mental states, they start to block out what Venky's have done, they try to lie to themselves about what the last 15 years have been like and decide to take the "positive" route instead. That being "ah well, at least Venky's are paying the bills, it could be worse, relegation was inevitable anyway, Venky's were badly advised, at least Rovers aren't like Wigan/Bury etc, these plastic fans who are moaning are to blame, they are entitled, spoilt, they make us look bad, just get behind the lads ffs".

Those of you who know Rovers fans with similar views to the son in law and the other poster's Rovers pals, please apply my explanation above to those lads/lasses and assess for yourselves. You will see that I am spot on. They have given up and are trying to maintain a positive mental state. It's fake positivity. They know it deep down.

Many of that fanbase have given up. Many are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome yet ridiculously portray themselves as being wise and realistic Rovers fans. Downplaying the club and it's history at every turn. Playing straight into the hands Venky's and Waggott. They've been conned and have forgotten who they claim to support.

More comedy gold from B'tards answer to Frank Sidebottom aka Fred Frontbottom

[dougcollins]

You leave Frank Sidebottom out of this, he never stooped to such levels!

[Hutchy]

And there we have it...the central plank of the entire entitled debate.
""We should be given massive subsidies because our owners are rich""
Over £6k spunked for every STH and still they squeal for more like four thousand Oliver Twists.

Have some class and dignity ffs.

I don't know which world you live in, fb, but please tell me which clubs out there achieve anything worthwhile in the game without funding from their owners?

It's happening throughout the Premier League, from top to bottom. It happens regularly in the Championship. It happens across Europe. Owners find the money time and again.

How is it classless or undignified for any set of supporters to expect their billionaire owners to play their part and provide the funds now and then when most needed? We're not talking stupid levels of spending here.

This idea that you and tens of others seem to have here that Burnley do things in a dignified way and the 'right way' might sound noble to you. But it is not in keeping with the reality of football. Burnley have had to battle their way up over the years, no doubt and that deserves credit.

Some might say "why can't Rovers battle the same way". You're seeing why. Every time they give themselves a fighting chance under a good manager, the hierarchy sabotages things either deliberately or through incompetence.

So they can't battle their way through to the Prem under this ownership and at the same time their ownership won't fund a promotion push either. So what the heck are their fans meant to do? Their club is in limbo and they can only look on.

This is why laughing at them about how **** they are and the 'long live Venky's' stuff is worthless.

[Bosscat]

I don't know which world you live in, fb, but please tell me which clubs out there achieve anything worthwhile in the game without funding from their owners?

It's happening throughout the Premier League, from top to bottom. It happens regularly in the Championship. It happens across Europe. Owners find the money time and again.

How is it classless or undignified for any set of supporters to expect their billionaire owners to play their part and provide the funds now and then when most needed? We're not talking stupid levels of spending here.

This idea that you and tens of others seem to have here that Burnley do things in a dignified way and the 'right way' might sound noble to you. But it is not in keeping with the reality of football. Burnley have had to battle their way up over the years, no doubt and that deserves credit.

Some might say "why can't Rovers battle the same way". You're seeing why. Every time they give themselves a fighting chance under a good manager, the hierarchy sabotages things either deliberately or through incompetence.

So they can't battle their way through to the Prem under this ownership and at the same time their ownership won't fund a promotion push either. So what the heck are their fans meant to do? Their club is in limbo and they can only look on.

This is why laughing at them about how **** they are and the 'long live Venky's' stuff is worthless.

Fred Frontbottom rides again...

Give it a rest you numpty we don't care ... You reap what you sew ... one post you are talking about being owned by Billionaires ... then the next whining because they aren't spunking those billions into Deadwood.

We couldn't give a monkeys Freddy boy

Long live the Venkys

[TheFamilyCat]

On paper it looks like an attempt to go up. In reality though, it wasn't. The backdrop to that 2012/13 season, was that Rovers had 5 different managers during that campaign. Kean, Black, Berg, Appleton, Bowyer. Some money was spent, but there was chaos in the background meaning there was no chance of promotion. Sound familiar? 12 years on, the same crap is happening, minus the Parachute Payments.

Anyway, those Parachute Payments were blown without any sort of plan. It was the equivalent of a lottery payout falling into the hands of somebody who has never seen such money before, with said person being taken for a ride by chancers and hangers on.

Ageing midfielders in Murphy and Etuhu, legs had gone, but they came for one last big payday. They spent the next few years paying them off. Leon Best, an absolute knob, never a promotion signing.

Rhodes, I'll give you. But an interesting/bizarre story on that one:

The late Shebby Singh asked a Rovers fan to recommend him a striker to sign. The fan flippantly told him "I dunno, maybe Marouane Chamakh (at Arsenal)". The next day, the story is all over the papers "Rovers bid for Chamakh".

Shebby later informs the same fan that his bid for Chamakh was rejected and asks him "now what?". The fan, shocked at this question, tells Shebby "go and get Jordan Rhodes from Huddersfield, he's the striker Rovers need, a proven goal scorer". Days later, Shebby signs Rhodes for £8m.

This was the kind of crazy stuff that was going on. Yes, Venky's sanctioned that £8m spend, but just like the money spent on Brereton and Gallagher, this wasn't a signing with the goal being promotion. Remember the upheaval I mentioned that season. It was a 'how much can we sell him for down the line' signing.

And there it is, the final piece of evidence (if it were needed) that he’s not a Burnley fan. Every Claret knows him as the late great Shebby Singh.

[The Shire Claret]

I don't know which world you live in, fb, but please tell me which clubs out there achieve anything worthwhile in the game without funding from their owners?

It's happening throughout the Premier League, from top to bottom. It happens regularly in the Championship. It happens across Europe. Owners find the money time and again.

How is it classless or undignified for any set of supporters to expect their billionaire owners to play their part and provide the funds now and then when most needed? We're not talking stupid levels of spending here.

This idea that you and tens of others seem to have here that Burnley do things in a dignified way and the 'right way' might sound noble to you. But it is not in keeping with the reality of football. Burnley have had to battle their way up over the years, no doubt and that deserves credit.

Some might say "why can't Rovers battle the same way". You're seeing why. Every time they give themselves a fighting chance under a good manager, the hierarchy sabotages things either deliberately or through incompetence.

So they can't battle their way through to the Prem under this ownership and at the same time their ownership won't fund a promotion push either. So what the heck are their fans meant to do? Their club is in limbo and they can only look on.

This is why laughing at them about how **** they are and the 'long live Venky's' stuff is worthless.

The club is in Limbo

Welcome to the majority of every other football club up and down the country

What happened when you went down to league 1 ?

Straight back up …

Was that fair against the other clubs that didn’t have the same investment as you ?

If you didn’t have the Venkys and had Sokes owners who are respectful of the club … what excuse would you have then ?

[mybloodisclaret]

It's not meant to be hilarious, but it's a genuine point.

Would you agree that there are certain clubs who belong in the Premier League and that them not being there feels wrong? This is not entitlement, but it's a genuine point made based on history.

Clubs like Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton and Blackburn (as much as people won't accept it here) and a few others all belong in the Premier League. They are all a part of the Premier League furniture. That's the point I was making. People around the world genuinely miss seeing Blackburn in the Premier League. This is not a joke. You will find many such comments across the internet.

If you are actually and genuinely putting yourself in a group with Manchester United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Everton (never been out of the top flight) you are either a terrible troll or are genuinely very unwell. You can not be being serious?

You are finished, and the mere fact of the Venkys leaving doesn't put you back in the top flight! You know this right?

You actually need a team capable of getting out of the Championship. You're squad that is about to get significantly worse when most decent out of contract players leave in the summer. It will cost someone (you're imaginary consortium of billionaires) £230 mill just to pay the Venks owed debt, + whatever they value the club at, (circa 37 quid and a packet of polo's.) They will then need to invest circa £100 million to build a squad capable of challenging the top 2 slots.

Oh and don't forget you have to comply with PSR and FFP. So the days of buying leagues has unfortunately gone. (We know that's how you like to do it). Nevermind. Sorry to pop you're bubble, and thanks for continuing to post, you are a great source of amusement and entertainment, but my word, the most deluded of the deluded.

I am sure that fans flooding back to deadwood, when the venkys cloud lifted, would be huge for your teams successes. It went well last time they all flooded back in January.... even opened the upper tier of the blackburn empty.... just to see Burnley make it 5 in a row!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

[Commy]

Another 9 seasons and we will have the same amount of years as Blackburn. Will we be part of the furniture then?

[Fretters]

The most shocking thing to me about this entire thread is the death of Shebby Singh. I had no idea.

RIP to an absolute legend.

[claretonthecoast1882]

On paper it looks like an attempt to go up. In reality though, it wasn't. The backdrop to that 2012/13 season, was that Rovers had 5 different managers during that campaign. Kean, Black, Berg, Appleton, Bowyer. Some money was spent, but there was chaos in the background meaning there was no chance of promotion. Sound familiar? 12 years on, the same crap is happening, minus the Parachute Payments.

Anyway, those Parachute Payments were blown without any sort of plan. It was the equivalent of a lottery payout falling into the hands of somebody who has never seen such money before, with said person being taken for a ride by chancers and hangers on.

Ageing midfielders in Murphy and Etuhu, legs had gone, but they came for one last big payday. They spent the next few years paying them off. Leon Best, an absolute knob, never a promotion signing.

Rhodes, I'll give you. But an interesting/bizarre story on that one:

The late Shebby Singh asked a Rovers fan to recommend him a striker to sign. The fan flippantly told him "I dunno, maybe Marouane Chamakh (at Arsenal)". The next day, the story is all over the papers "Rovers bid for Chamakh".

Shebby later informs the same fan that his bid for Chamakh was rejected and asks him "now what?". The fan, shocked at this question, tells Shebby "go and get Jordan Rhodes from Huddersfield, he's the striker Rovers need, a proven goal scorer". Days later, Shebby signs Rhodes for £8m.

This was the kind of crazy stuff that was going on. Yes, Venky's sanctioned that £8m spend, but just like the money spent on Brereton and Gallagher, this wasn't a signing with the goal being promotion. Remember the upheaval I mentioned that season. It was a 'how much can we sell him for down the line' signing.

You need to stop reading the lies Glen Mullan (and his dossier) spouts and believing them. He is a fantasist and a liar who had you all hyping him up as a saviour.

You talk about people wanting to buy the club, they only offer put forward was the group with people like Wayne Wild in and the offer was wipe all the debts and give us the club for free. The best period you had for years now was under Steve Kean maybe you should have supported him rather than abuse him. Your owners don't come due to the racism aimed at them when they last turned up.

There is not a single person in the world outside the town sponsored by Lonsdale who if asked to name 20 Premier league clubs you would get a single mention.

[It Is What It Is]

It'll be known as Blackburn Stanley 2028 in a few years

[Ric_C]

I really liked that period when they had no manager and won a couple of games, and they convinced themselves Eustace was the problem and not the solution.

Good times

[blatherwickstattoos]

It's not meant to be hilarious, but it's a genuine point.

Would you agree that there are certain clubs who belong in the Premier League and that them not being there feels wrong? This is not entitlement, but it's a genuine point made based on history.

Clubs like Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton and Blackburn (as much as people won't accept it here) and a few others all belong in the Premier League. They are all a part of the Premier League furniture. That's the point I was making. People around the world genuinely miss seeing Blackburn in the Premier League. This is not a joke. You will find many such comments across the internet.

There will be people on here who only know Blackburn Rovers as a Premier League club due to their age, who have then seen Venky's wreck the club (hence the India flags). This is also the case the world over. Why do so many neutral fans out there mention "Tugay", "Friedel", "Gamst Pedersen", "Bentley", "Benni McCarthy", "Shearer", "Hendry" and more in places like Malaysia, Singapore, Nigeria, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Turkey, Morocco?

There are many comments of the "**** chicken owners ruining Blackburn" too out there. If this is just some crap Championship club, none of the above happens. It's because they are a Premier League name with weight that there is such respect out there. It's actually nice to see how much reach football has.

The sad thing is there are Blackburn fans out there who respect their own club and its history less than some of these neutrals. Those Rovers fans calling others in their fanbase plastic/entitled and who praise Venky's are completely lost. They have forgotten who they support and the calibre of their own club.

So Leicester city now have a right to be in the premier league just because they won a title 10 years ago?

They’ve had backing, billionaire foreign owners like yourself and went back up and are struggling.

Nobody has the right to be there that’s the point you’re missing.

[FulledgeClaret]

No sympathy. Just providing context as to why they are in such a mess and why those owners are a disgrace. It is not something to particularly take delight in, IMO. Owners taking the **** and destroying a club is not funny.

No its not funny its hilarious, It couldn't happen to a better set of deluded fans. The fans have a problem with the fact their club is now having to live within its means and doesn't have a mega rich benefactors wallet to dip into even though their owners could easily fund them to the top end of the prem that's what Basturd fans have a problem with their owners reluctance or inability to throw money at them like it was going out of fashion, you're not telling me if venkys suddenly decided to put in millions bought outstanding players and had them in the top half of the prem the fans bemoaning them now wouldn't change their tune.

[claretbob]

19 January 2013. The snowball and it’s all gone to pot since. Madame Desai has had her revenge and don’t we all love it. Venkys are death by a thousand cuts and with a bit of luck that long overdue relegation to the lower leagues is just round the corner.

[Hutchy]

If you are actually and genuinely putting yourself in a group with Manchester United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Everton (never been out of the top flight) you are either a terrible troll or are genuinely very unwell. You can not be being serious?

You are finished, and the mere fact of the Venkys leaving doesn't put you back in the top flight! You know this right?

You actually need a team capable of getting out of the Championship. You're squad that is about to get significantly worse when most decent out of contract players leave in the summer. It will cost someone (you're imaginary consortium of billionaires) £230 mill just to pay the Venks owed debt, + whatever they value the club at, (circa 37 quid and a packet of polo's.) They will then need to invest circa £100 million to build a squad capable of challenging the top 2 slots.

Oh and don't forget you have to comply with PSR and FFP. So the days of buying leagues has unfortunately gone. (We know that's how you like to do it). Nevermind. Sorry to pop you're bubble, and thanks for continuing to post, you are a great source of amusement and entertainment, but my word, the most deluded of the deluded.

I am sure that fans flooding back to deadwood, when the venkys cloud lifted, would be huge for your teams successes. It went well last time they all flooded back in January.... even opened the upper tier of the blackburn empty.... just to see Burnley make it 5 in a row!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

137 years since the Football League was founded, of which Rovers and Burnley were two of 12 founder members.

Rovers have spent 72 of those 137 years as a top flight club. It's not about the 70s and 80s, that there is the stat you need to ponder on. 72 years out of 137! That's not a small Championship club that is at it's 'natural level' today. Jack Walker helped restore the club back to where it belonged and it was then superbly looked after by John Williams and Tom Finn following Jack's passing.

As disliked as they are here, I'm only putting the facts down. Founder members of the Premier League, who spent 18 years there until Venky's wreaked havoc and sent them down. They have kept them down ever since. 10th most successful club in the country. They are just as historic as those clubs mentioned.

True, the likes of Everton and Arsenal have never been relegated. However, my point is, those clubs and a few others are seen as Premier League stalwarts. Part of the furniture. Rovers are included in that, as that's what people outside of a Burnley persuasion see them as. Don't take my word for it? See my next post where I'll provide examples.

Disagree on your numbers too. The only way Venky's get that money back is via promotion. They show no interest in wanting to achieve that. Otherwise, they are going to have to write off a large portion of that debt. It will not take £100m to turn Rovers into promotion contenders. They aren't a million miles away and have been around the play off picture for a few years now, even under this rotten ownership. Imagine what new owners with even a semblance of a plan could achieve.

Eustace didn't require £100m this January to go up. It needed smart spending and a will to do so from the top. Neither was forthcoming though. A new manager under new owners would not require £100m either. They are done for the foreseeable under Venky's, I agree. However, new owners would be a different ball game, a breath of fresh air. They are one ownership change away from Premier League football.

[Bosscat]

137 years since the Football League was founded, of which Rovers and Burnley were two of 12 founder members.

Rovers have spent 72 of those 137 years as a top flight club. It's not about the 70s and 80s, that there is the stat you need to ponder on. 72 years out of 137! That's not a small Championship club that is at it's 'natural level' today. Jack Walker helped restore the club back to where it belonged and it was then superbly looked after by John Williams and Tom Finn following Jack's passing.

As disliked as they are here, I'm only putting the facts down. Founder members of the Premier League, who spent 18 years there until Venky's wreaked havoc and sent them down. They have kept them down ever since. 10th most successful club in the country. They are just as historic as those clubs mentioned.

True, the likes of Everton and Arsenal have never been relegated. However, my point is, those clubs and a few others are seen as Premier League stalwarts. Part of the furniture. Rovers are included in that, as that's what people outside of a Burnley persuasion see them as. Don't take my word for it? See my next post where I'll provide examples.

Disagree on your numbers too. The only way Venky's get that money back is via promotion. They show no interest in wanting to achieve that. Otherwise, they are going to have to write off a large portion of that debt. It will not take £100m to turn Rovers into promotion contenders. They aren't a million miles away and have been around the play off picture for a few years now, even under this rotten ownership. Imagine what new owners with even a semblance of a plan could achieve.

Eustace didn't require £100m this January to go up. It needed smart spending and a will to do so from the top. Neither was forthcoming though. A new manager under new owners would not require £100m either. They are done for the foreseeable under Venky's, I agree. However, new owners would be a different ball game, a breath of fresh air. They are one ownership change away from Premier League football.

Long live the Venkys ... keeping your shower of excrement where it belongs

[NottsClaret]

You're good value. What happened in the 1800s or pre-war is pretty irrelevant in today's game. A nice bit of history but that's it.

The fact is, since the maximum wage cap was abolished in 1961, the top flight has been almost a closed shop for small town clubs. You went down four years later and never got back until bankrolled by Walker. They're the relevant facts. Since football changed in '61, your anomaly is the Walker years. They're over. Our achievement in dragging ourselves back from the precipice of non-league to play top flight football again is the story you should be looking to emulate. Not sitting around waiting for another sugar daddy.

The Venkys made some big mistakes, were naive and since then have kept you afloat year after year. Be thankful.

[bumba]

137 years since the Football League was founded, of which Rovers and Burnley were two of 12 founder members.

Rovers have spent 72 of those 137 years as a top flight club. It's not about the 70s and 80s, that there is the stat you need to ponder on. 72 years out of 137! That's not a small Championship club that is at it's 'natural level' today. Jack Walker helped restore the club back to where it belonged and it was then superbly looked after by John Williams and Tom Finn following Jack's passing.

As disliked as they are here, I'm only putting the facts down. Founder members of the Premier League, who spent 18 years there until Venky's wreaked havoc and sent them down. They have kept them down ever since. 10th most successful club in the country. They are just as historic as those clubs mentioned.

True, the likes of Everton and Arsenal have never been relegated. However, my point is, those clubs and a few others are seen as Premier League stalwarts. Part of the furniture. Rovers are included in that, as that's what people outside of a Burnley persuasion see them as. Don't take my word for it? See my next post where I'll provide examples.

Disagree on your numbers too. The only way Venky's get that money back is via promotion. They show no interest in wanting to achieve that. Otherwise, they are going to have to write off a large portion of that debt. It will not take £100m to turn Rovers into promotion contenders. They aren't a million miles away and have been around the play off picture for a few years now, even under this rotten ownership. Imagine what new owners with even a semblance of a plan could achieve.

Eustace didn't require £100m this January to go up. It needed smart spending and a will to do so from the top. Neither was forthcoming though. A new manager under new owners would not require £100m either. They are done for the foreseeable under Venky's, I agree. However, new owners would be a different ball game, a breath of fresh air. They are one ownership change away from Premier League football.

Take out your cheating to win a few FA cups before 1891 and your not that successful are you. Didn't you ban clubs so you'd win it? Wasn't you the only club paying players? Have you ever had any success that wasn't down to cheating?

[IPAclaret]

137 years since the Football League was founded, of which Rovers and Burnley were two of 12 founder members.

Rovers have spent 72 of those 137 years as a top flight club. It's not about the 70s and 80s, that there is the stat you need to ponder on. 72 years out of 137! That's not a small Championship club that is at it's 'natural level' today. Jack Walker helped restore the club back to where it belonged and it was then superbly looked after by John Williams and Tom Finn following Jack's passing.

As disliked as they are here, I'm only putting the facts down. Founder members of the Premier League, who spent 18 years there until Venky's wreaked havoc and sent them down. They have kept them down ever since. 10th most successful club in the country. They are just as historic as those clubs mentioned.

True, the likes of Everton and Arsenal have never been relegated. However, my point is, those clubs and a few others are seen as Premier League stalwarts. Part of the furniture. Rovers are included in that, as that's what people outside of a Burnley persuasion see them as. Don't take my word for it? See my next post where I'll provide examples.

Disagree on your numbers too. The only way Venky's get that money back is via promotion. They show no interest in wanting to achieve that. Otherwise, they are going to have to write off a large portion of that debt. It will not take £100m to turn Rovers into promotion contenders. They aren't a million miles away and have been around the play off picture for a few years now, even under this rotten ownership. Imagine what new owners with even a semblance of a plan could achieve.

Eustace didn't require £100m this January to go up. It needed smart spending and a will to do so from the top. Neither was forthcoming though. A new manager under new owners would not require £100m either. They are done for the foreseeable under Venky's, I agree. However, new owners would be a different ball game, a breath of fresh air. They are one ownership change away from Premier League football.

Absolutely the delusional ramblings of a shadsworth clan member or the biggest wind up merchant going.

[HurstGrangeClaret]

Hutchy, you really are comedy gold.
Carry on posting mate. You are always good for a laugh, but your delusion and sense of entitlement are off the scale.

[Hutchy]

You need to stop reading the lies Glen Mullan (and his dossier) spouts and believing them. He is a fantasist and a liar who had you all hyping him up as a saviour.

You talk about people wanting to buy the club, they only offer put forward was the group with people like Wayne Wild in and the offer was wipe all the debts and give us the club for free. The best period you had for years now was under Steve Kean maybe you should have supported him rather than abuse him. Your owners don't come due to the racism aimed at them when they last turned up.

There is not a single person in the world outside the town sponsored by Lonsdale who if asked to name 20 Premier league clubs you would get a single mention.

Such a misinformed post, I don't know where to start.

Firstly, Glen is no liar on this matter. He has evidence for all of the claims that he has put online including his communications with Shebby. To this day, nobody that he has mentioned or exposed has ever challenged him on his claims or told him to take things down. If he was some anonymous, faceless poster/fan acting the big man under an alias, I'd agree with you. However, he has put his name to everything publicly. Never hid his face, been open to meet with anybody who has questions for him. Has taken the case and his findings to the FA, Premier League and Parliament. It would take a seriously deranged individual to do all of that and to have made everything up just to make himself look like a 'saviour'.

Secondly, you have no idea what Steve Kean was about and how he got the job. Him being sat in third place in the Championship with Rovers is irrelevant. His removal from the club was necessary and he deserved every bit of stick that he received.

Thirdly, there was no racism aimed at Venky's. This was falsely implied by an agent with a vested interest and friendship with the owners. Do you think the press would stay quiet about club owners being subjected to racism by fans? We all know how they jump all over any case of racism within football (rightly so, of course). There have never been any reports of Rovers fans behaving like that towards Venky's.

Final point. Nobody thinks of Rovers a Premier League club or misses them in the Premier League. See for yourselves:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/ ... ?rdt=44351

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comment ... er_league/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/ ... gue_clubs/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOther14/com ... ue_season/

Man Utd fans miss Blackburn Rovers:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/whateve ... rs.460144/

Youtube clips

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ROHPu2T76x8

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AVC_OIIror8

This is just online. What about the people around the world that I told you about? Many say they should be in the Premier League and that Venky's are ****.

None of those people are wrong. I'm all for rivalry, but it's a shame some let hate get in the way of what is true and obvious.

[Greenmile]

Such a misinformed post, I don't know where to start.

Firstly, Glen is no liar on this matter. He has evidence for all of the claims that he has put online including his communications with Shebby. To this day, nobody that he has mentioned or exposed has ever challenged him on his claims or told him to take things down. If he was some anonymous, faceless poster/fan acting the big man under an alias, I'd agree with you. However, he has put his name to everything publicly. Never hid his face, been open to meet with anybody who has questions for him. Has taken the case and his findings to the FA, Premier League and Parliament. It would take a seriously deranged individual to do all of that and to have made everything up just to make himself look like a 'saviour'.

Secondly, you have no idea what Steve Kean was about and how he got the job. Him being sat in third place in the Championship with Rovers is irrelevant. His removal from the club was necessary and he deserved every bit of stick that he received.

Thirdly, there was no racism aimed at Venky's. This was falsely implied by an agent with a vested interest and friendship with the owners. Do you think the press would stay quiet about club owners being subjected to racism by fans? We all know how they jump all over any case of racism within football (rightly so, of course). There have never been any reports of Rovers fans behaving like that towards Venky's.

Final point. Nobody thinks of Rovers a Premier League club or misses them in the Premier League. See for yourselves:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/ ... ?rdt=44351

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comment ... er_league/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/ ... gue_clubs/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOther14/com ... ue_season/

Man Utd fans miss Blackburn Rovers:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/whateve ... rs.460144/

Youtube clips

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ROHPu2T76x8

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AVC_OIIror8

This is just online. What about the people around the world that I told you about? Many say they should be in the Premier League and that Venky's are ****.

None of those people are wrong. I'm all for rivalry, but it's a shame some let hate get in the way of what is true and obvious.

Now I’m convinced. You have eight (!) examples (presumably - I didn’t click any of the links, obvs), and that’s “just online” - a famously small place where you’ll always struggle to find any niche / extreme opinions.

/s

[HurstGrangeClaret]

Hutchy, you’re well into your stride now.
Keep it going lad/lass, keep it going.

[NottsClaret]

The only person 'Hutchy' has managed to wind up is Hutchy. Everyone else is loving it.

[TheFamilyCat]

Such a misinformed post, I don't know where to start.

Firstly, Glen is no liar on this matter. He has evidence for all of the claims that he has put online including his communications with Shebby. To this day, nobody that he has mentioned or exposed has ever challenged him on his claims or told him to take things down. If he was some anonymous, faceless poster/fan acting the big man under an alias, I'd agree with you. However, he has put his name to everything publicly. Never hid his face, been open to meet with anybody who has questions for him. Has taken the case and his findings to the FA, Premier League and Parliament. It would take a seriously deranged individual to do all of that and to have made everything up just to make himself look like a 'saviour'.

Secondly, you have no idea what Steve Kean was about and how he got the job. Him being sat in third place in the Championship with Rovers is irrelevant. His removal from the club was necessary and he deserved every bit of stick that he received.

Thirdly, there was no racism aimed at Venky's. This was falsely implied by an agent with a vested interest and friendship with the owners. Do you think the press would stay quiet about club owners being subjected to racism by fans? We all know how they jump all over any case of racism within football (rightly so, of course). There have never been any reports of Rovers fans behaving like that towards Venky's.

Final point. Nobody thinks of Rovers a Premier League club or misses them in the Premier League. See for yourselves:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/ ... ?rdt=44351

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comment ... er_league/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/ ... gue_clubs/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOther14/com ... ue_season/

Man Utd fans miss Blackburn Rovers:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/whateve ... rs.460144/

Youtube clips

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ROHPu2T76x8

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AVC_OIIror8

This is just online. What about the people around the world that I told you about? Many say they should be in the Premier League and that Venky's are ****.

None of those people are wrong. I'm all for rivalry, but it's a shame some let hate get in the way of what is true and obvious.

Ah, Glen's Dossier, or The Ramblings of a Madman - you were spot on "seriously deranged individual". It was supposed to destroy The Venkys but hasn't made a jot of difference. It's no surprise nobody has challenged it as it's clearly not in slightest bit damning.

[Bosscat]

Such a misinformed post, I don't know where to start.

Firstly, Glen is no liar on this matter. He has evidence for all of the claims that he has put online including his communications with Shebby. To this day, nobody that he has mentioned or exposed has ever challenged him on his claims or told him to take things down. If he was some anonymous, faceless poster/fan acting the big man under an alias, I'd agree with you. However, he has put his name to everything publicly. Never hid his face, been open to meet with anybody who has questions for him. Has taken the case and his findings to the FA, Premier League and Parliament. It would take a seriously deranged individual to do all of that and to have made everything up just to make himself look like a 'saviour'.

Secondly, you have no idea what Steve Kean was about and how he got the job. Him being sat in third place in the Championship with Rovers is irrelevant. His removal from the club was necessary and he deserved every bit of stick that he received.

Thirdly, there was no racism aimed at Venky's. This was falsely implied by an agent with a vested interest and friendship with the owners. Do you think the press would stay quiet about club owners being subjected to racism by fans? We all know how they jump all over any case of racism within football (rightly so, of course). There have never been any reports of Rovers fans behaving like that towards Venky's.

Final point. Nobody thinks of Rovers a Premier League club or misses them in the Premier League. See for yourselves:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/ ... ?rdt=44351

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comment ... er_league/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/ ... gue_clubs/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOther14/com ... ue_season/

Man Utd fans miss Blackburn Rovers:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/whateve ... rs.460144/

Youtube clips

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ROHPu2T76x8

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AVC_OIIror8

This is just online. What about the people around the world that I told you about? Many say they should be in the Premier League and that Venky's are ****.

None of those people are wrong. I'm all for rivalry, but it's a shame some let hate get in the way of what is true and obvious.

Fred Frontbottom strikes again ... what a crock of sh!te Hutchy like all of your posts .

Mind the gap lad its now 26 points ...

[Enola Gay]

From the top flight. They picked up a Premier League football club in 2010, did they not? Is it acceptable for them to buy a Premier League outfit and turn them into this state? Would you accept this for Burnley if the roles were reversed? It does not matter where Rovers used to play in the 70s and 80s. You can't just wipe out 1990-2010 as if it was an illusion.

If referencing the 70s and 80s matters today, then Man Utd fans have no right to be complaining and protesting because they went 27 years without a League title from 1967-1993. 1993-2013 was only down to Fergie, right? Chelsea fans have no right to complain about their decline today because they weren't all that before Roman. Double standards if you only apply your logic to Blackburn.

Look at Premier League history. Listen to the people out there who have no Burnley connection. There's a part of the furniture that is missing in the top flight. A prized piece that is recognised worldwide and missed. That piece of furniture will return to its rightful place very soon. That's when these posts will make sense.

If there were any remaining doubt about Hutchy being a Blackburn fan on a wind-up, this post is where it ends.

A good run, and fair play for keeping it going for so long, but we can all stick a fork in it now 'cause it's properly done.

[BurnleyFC]

"If you want to win (promotion), you need to spend some money".

Unless you’re Sean Dyche, Hutchy lad.

[mybloodisclaret]

137 years since the Football League was founded, of which Rovers and Burnley were two of 12 founder members.

Rovers have spent 72 of those 137 years as a top flight club. It's not about the 70s and 80s, that there is the stat you need to ponder on. 72 years out of 137! That's not a small Championship club that is at it's 'natural level' today. Jack Walker helped restore the club back to where it belonged and it was then superbly looked after by John Williams and Tom Finn following Jack's passing.

As disliked as they are here, I'm only putting the facts down. Founder members of the Premier League, who spent 18 years there until Venky's wreaked havoc and sent them down. They have kept them down ever since. 10th most successful club in the country. They are just as historic as those clubs mentioned.

True, the likes of Everton and Arsenal have never been relegated. However, my point is, those clubs and a few others are seen as Premier League stalwarts. Part of the furniture. Rovers are included in that, as that's what people outside of a Burnley persuasion see them as. Don't take my word for it? See my next post where I'll provide examples.

Disagree on your numbers too. The only way Venky's get that money back is via promotion. They show no interest in wanting to achieve that. Otherwise, they are going to have to write off a large portion of that debt. It will not take £100m to turn Rovers into promotion contenders. They aren't a million miles away and have been around the play off picture for a few years now, even under this rotten ownership. Imagine what new owners with even a semblance of a plan could achieve.

Eustace didn't require £100m this January to go up. It needed smart spending and a will to do so from the top. Neither was forthcoming though. A new manager under new owners would not require £100m either. They are done for the foreseeable under Venky's, I agree. However, new owners would be a different ball game, a breath of fresh air. They are one ownership change away from Premier League football.

Given you a like as you are absolutely crazy.

Look at your squad in September 2025. Keep up Hutchy this bit is going to smart.....Out of contract this summer, with absolutely no mention anywhere of renewals or additional deals being discussed are;
Dolan, Dennis, Sanderson, Hyam, Cozier Dubrrry (loan) Owen Beck (loan), Hedges, Wymann, Woodrow, Forshaw and Bathh.

Guess these are all bit part players? Sure I read that you will be down to 12 available pros next season

Hutchy.... look at the following...... its going to hurt.

It shows rovers how all those years of top flight football were accumalted PRE THE FIRST WORLD WAR (there were 2 divisions back then)

Prior to world war 2 you were in the second out of 3 divisions. In 1946-47 when football got back to normal after the allies accepted the unconditional surrender of the Nazi's rovers found themselves back home, other than Uncle Jacky's investment spending all of your time between division 2 and 3.

You are kidding yourself on and absolutely no one else that deserve nothing more than you are getting now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... rmance.svg

"Part of the furniture" you're afunny guy. No money. No hope.

[mybloodisclaret]

Wow..... this is painful again Hutch. From the BBC Friday 18th August 2000.

"But even Jack Walker's millions could not sustain success. Blackburn may have been rich, but they were not a big club, seldom attracting enough support to fill Ewood Park.

As the invasion of foreign players began, the lure of this small Lancashire industrial town was insufficient to attract the best. Even nearby Burnley has a bigger population and fan base."

That's 25 years ago...... you were nobodies even then. That is from the BBC.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/779517.stm

[Quicknick]

Back in 1961/62, Burnley's average gate was 27,000. Blackburn, still a 'big' club averaged 13,000 that season.

[Stanbill05]

Take a bow Hutchy, exceptional trolling. You let the mask slip a few times going too far, but a convincing effort nonetheless. Bravo. DA will need to up his game to win his title back.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Such a misinformed post, I don't know where to start.

Firstly, Glen is no liar on this matter. He has evidence for all of the claims that he has put online including his communications with Shebby. To this day, nobody that he has mentioned or exposed has ever challenged him on his claims or told him to take things down. If he was some anonymous, faceless poster/fan acting the big man under an alias, I'd agree with you. However, he has put his name to everything publicly. Never hid his face, been open to meet with anybody who has questions for him. Has taken the case and his findings to the FA, Premier League and Parliament. It would take a seriously deranged individual to do all of that and to have made everything up just to make himself look like a 'saviour'.

Secondly, you have no idea what Steve Kean was about and how he got the job. Him being sat in third place in the Championship with Rovers is irrelevant. His removal from the club was necessary and he deserved every bit of stick that he received.

Thirdly, there was no racism aimed at Venky's. This was falsely implied by an agent with a vested interest and friendship with the owners. Do you think the press would stay quiet about club owners being subjected to racism by fans? We all know how they jump all over any case of racism within football (rightly so, of course). There have never been any reports of Rovers fans behaving like that towards Venky's.

Final point. Nobody thinks of Rovers a Premier League club or misses them in the Premier League. See for yourselves:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/ ... ?rdt=44351

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comment ... er_league/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/ ... gue_clubs/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOther14/com ... ue_season/

Man Utd fans miss Blackburn Rovers:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/whateve ... rs.460144/

Youtube clips

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ROHPu2T76x8

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AVC_OIIror8

This is just online. What about the people around the world that I told you about? Many say they should be in the Premier League and that Venky's are ****.

None of those people are wrong. I'm all for rivalry, but it's a shame some let hate get in the way of what is true and obvious.

Like I said stop believing the lies. Glen had a dossier full of all the corruption that would bring the Venkys down and despite having this and claiming to be the leader of the action group who would save the day, sat on this evidence and did nothing of the sort. You have to ask what he gained from the position he was in.

I won't be clicking on your dumb links either, I have no interest in reading the odd comment you have managed to find that would agree with your delusions. You have proved (after previously proving to be a crank) that you are one of the gullible sheep who bow to Glen, I bet if you were there you would have staged a sit in, thrown some tennis balls or joined a match late to show how upset you were, these 3 things are what Glen achieved.