Sean Dyche on Talksport today, 12-2

[JohnMcGreal]

Although our old prudent ways made his job difficult at times, I get the impression that Dyche is less than impressed with the cavalier attitude shown to the club's long term financial security over the last few years.

[Big Vinny K]

Although our old prudent ways made his job difficult at times, I get the impression that Dyche is less than impressed with the cavalier attitude shown to the club's long term financial security over the last few years.

Our prudent ways (other than the latter period when Garlick knew he was selling the club) suited Dyche down to the ground. If we would have been a club looking to spend loads of money when we appointed Dyche then it’s unlikely he would have ever got the job in the first place.

As it turned out it was a marriage made in heaven. Dyche was brilliant for us and we were brilliant for him. But the history of the Premier League has shown that relegation was inevitable at some point and Dyche said himself that parting ways with the club was the only thing that you could guarantee.

In terms of him being less than impressed with the clubs long term financial security I’m not really sure he is that bothered. His character has never been to speak gushingly about Burnley since he left. As already said he spent a lot of his time as manager bemoaning how little he had to spend….as he did at Everton too but both clubs appointed him knowing funds were limited and there is no way on earth Dyche was not aware of this.

Not really sure why he is going on Talk Sh-ite - he certainly doesn’t need the money and I thought that he often said that he does not live and breathe football. With people like Sam Allardyce and Warnock they both had regular stints on Talk Sport and loved to play up to their big egos and caricatures of being straight talking Mike Basset type football managers. I thought Dyche was better than that - apparently not. What he is saying about Kompany is right out of the Allardyce / Warnock playbook. And it’s embarrassing.

[Shaggy]

Although our old prudent ways made his job difficult at times, I get the impression that Dyche is less than impressed with the cavalier attitude shown to the club's long term financial security over the last few years.

Once you learn that Dyche doesn’t give a toss about Burnley the better. The only thing he cares about is himself. His opinion is higher than his ability and achievements.

[bpgburn]

Once you learn that Dyche doesn’t give a toss about Burnley the better. The only thing he cares about is himself. His opinion is higher than his ability and achievements.

He's definitely shagged your Mrs...

[daveisaclaret]

I think Dyche is right but it is pretty tacky to say so. Kinda pleased he said it though because it's right and the last thing fans of clubs like ours should want is to see that kind of managerial failure rewarded because it means it could happen to us again.

As a Dyche lover it's no surprise to me he's working at Talksport. I was as big a fan as anyone but the way he acted in press conferences when he was unhappy, a lot of his general media persona, bringing the cameraman out to get a shot of him in his shirt in the snow, it was all geared in that kind of direction. It also lets him sit in a presumably well-paid, non-stressful job pretending to be aloof about his next managerial position if he isn't offered one at the level he thinks he should be.

[The Shire Claret]

Once you learn that Dyche doesn’t give a toss about Burnley the better. The only thing he cares about is himself. His opinion is higher than his ability and achievements.

Yeah ... Was behind total game changer of upgrading the Training facilities which brought us into the 21st century with everything state of the art rather than buying players ...

Doesn't care about Burnley though .....

He was sacked...

People make a living and get new jobs... Doesn't mean they don't care about the old job and people there ..


He could have won us the champions league but some Burnley fans would still moan about something

[Herts Clarets]

Once you learn that Dyche doesn’t give a toss about Burnley the better. The only thing he cares about is himself. His opinion is higher than his ability and achievements.

His opinion must be stratospheric then, given what he achieved at Burnley.

[claretonthecoast1882]

He's definitely shagged your Mrs...

The resentment 100% stems from rejection but I think it is more likely that Dyche refused to give Shaggy a signed photo despite begging letters being sent into the club for one.

His obsession with Dyche probably prevents him from going out and meeting anyone

[aggi]

The resentment 100% stems from rejection but I think it is more likely that Dyche refused to give Shaggy a signed photo despite begging letters being sent into the club for one.

His obsession with Dyche probably prevents him from going out and meeting anyone

I heard it was about a training top.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I heard it was about a training top.

That would probably make more sense, he could have then hit the town Saturday night in his new top and met someone, no wonder he is so bitter

[Alan Young]

I think it’s fine to acknowledge what a fantastic manager Dyche was for us but also think he comes across as a bit of a wally in the media.

[Devils_Advocate]

I heard it was about a training top.

Wouldn't be the first time!!

[Shaggy]

The resentment 100% stems from rejection but I think it is more likely that Dyche refused to give Shaggy a signed photo despite begging letters being sent into the club for one.

His obsession with Dyche probably prevents him from going out and meeting anyone

And here we have a master, at the art of talking utter ******** yet again.

It’s ok I’ll let you have this little bit of pleasure as it’s the only thing you will get at your age.

[claretonthecoast1882]

And here we have a master, at the art of talking utter ******** yet again.

It’s ok I’ll let you have this little bit of pleasure as it’s the only thing you will get at your age.

Cheers Renton

[Bosscat]

Once you learn that Dyche doesn’t give a toss about Burnley the better. The only thing he cares about is himself. His opinion is higher than his ability and achievements.

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[Stayingup]

I think Dyche comes across really petty and bitter here. As he often increasingly does unfortunately.

Does he? Where else have you heard his views?

[Stayingup]

And here we have a master, at the art of talking utter ******** yet again.

It’s ok I’ll let you have this little bit of pleasure as it’s the only thing you will get at your age.

Master of talking utter ******* The irony.

[Stayingup]

Worth highlighting the current England manager couldn’t get them to finish top in his first full season there.

He's not as good as our poster!!!

[Tackler49]

SD on talkSPORT might have a bit of interest but they will soon get talking about Man Utd in one form or another it should really be called talk Utd the things they can find to talk about that club is amazing Simon Jordan must be bored rigid listening to all that garbage

[Row x]

Does he? Where else have you heard his views?

Lots of podcasts out there where he gives his views on his time at burnley

[Ric_C]

https://x.com/TurfCastPodcast/status/19 ... 1782625713

[KefkaClaret]

Dyche is our greatest manager ever in my opinion and I would absolutely love him to manage us in the Prem again one day. As a person though he seems like an absolute knob though.

[Row x]

https://x.com/TurfCastPodcast/status/19 ... 1782625713

I loved dyche as a manager for us

But he's lost the plot in recent interviews.

[Goliath]

I loved dyche as a manager for us

But he's lost the plot in recent interviews.

And people say VK was having himself!

[distortiondave]

[agreenwood]

He’s doing what most managers who have been potted from their previous jobs and want to rehabilitate their reputations do.

He did it last time too. If you recall he did a number of podcasts and interviews after us where he was at pains to get across that he wasn’t a long ball manager and it was our circumstances that required a pragmatic approach.

[Goliath]

He’s doing what most managers who have been potted from their previous jobs and want to rehabilitate their reputations do.

He did it last time too. If you recall he did a number of podcasts and interviews after us where he was at pains to get across that he wasn’t a long ball manager and it was our circumstances that required a pragmatic approach.

Sure but there's no denying that there's a big change in the way he carries himself compared to the version of Dyche 10 years ago.
The way he talks about fans constantly comes across as a bit snearing to be honest.

[blatherwickstattoos]

He’s banging on about making the club a billion now.

Can anyone be arsed to try and work it out?? Be interesting to see the numbers

If so why have we still got the cricket field stand with two bogs and no hot water

[helmclaret]

He’s not mentioned we paid him £3-4m a year towards the end.

[Rileybobs]

He’s banging on about making the club a billion now.

Can anyone be arsed to try and work it out?? Be interesting to see the numbers

If so why have we still got the cricket field stand with two bogs and no hot water

Because of the extortionate operational costs required to run a Premier League football club.

[fidelcastro]

He’s banging on about making the club a billion now.

Can anyone be arsed to try and work it out?? Be interesting to see the numbers

If so why have we still got the cricket field stand with two bogs and no hot water

Players' wages?

[Goliath]

He’s banging on about making the club a billion now.

Can anyone be arsed to try and work it out?? Be interesting to see the numbers

If so why have we still got the cricket field stand with two bogs and no hot water

He's not wrong on that figure I don't think but it doesn't really give a full story. It's like when you get someone saying their business made 60 million for example when in reality theyve ignored all costs and it actually just made a million in profit.

[blatherwickstattoos]

His years in the prem will have brought in loads of tv revenue and sponsorship no doubt. Just find it weird he’s decided to start saying what he’s starting saying. Maybe he’s pimping himself out for a new job

[Row x]

His years in the prem will have brought in loads of tv revenue and sponsorship no doubt. Just find it weird he’s decided to start saying what he’s starting saying. Maybe he’s pimping himself out for a new job

That's exactly what he's doing

[Big Vinny K]

He’s correct in saying that under his tenure around a billion was brought in revenue. Of course that’s not profits but we also enjoyed records amounts of profit during that period (not surprisingly) and more investment into the facilities than any other period in our history too.

It’s all remarkable stuff of that there’s no doubt. And Dyche was the main person behind this.

But he was not the only person. The chairman played a massive part and of course so did the players. What I find really unedifying about Dyche is the way he’s saying it. The tone seems to me to be one of he thinks he did not get enough credit, that it was all down to him and the rest of football needs to know what a job he did.

Thing is he got plenty of credit in the game from his peers, the media, other clubs, our fans. I’ve rarely known the club to be as popular and well thought of in my lifetime at least.

Just shows to me that a football managers ego has no bounds. Dyche may like to distinguish himself from the likes of Mourinho and others and describe himself as the working class manager but he’s quickly becoming one of them.

[Wile E Coyote]

SD on talkSPORT might have a bit of interest but they will soon get talking about Man Utd in one form or another it should really be called talk Utd the things they can find to talk about that club is amazing Simon Jordan must be bored rigid listening to all that garbage

You must be joking, its a 24 /7 Arsenal love in on there.
ex players, given jobs, virtually every programme features them as a priority, even when the ***** arent playing they cover them before the days other fixtures.
The station is a rancid pile of ****.
gambling ads, grubby little darts or boxing features with the emphasis on betting odds, rarely the sport.
its a **** stain on the world of broadcasting. I detest their north london obsession with a passion.

[fidelcastro]

You must be joking, its a 24 /7 Arsenal love in on there.
ex players, given jobs, virtually every programme features them as a priority, even when the ***** arent playing they cover them before the days other fixtures.
The station is a rancid pile of ****.
gambling ads, grubby little darts or boxing features with the emphasis on betting odds, rarely the sport.
its a **** stain on the world of broadcasting. I detest their north london obsession with a passion.

I wish you'd stop being so vague and say what you really thought.

[ChristheViking]

Mike Garlick coming in for a lot of criticism and I think quite a lot of it it's justified. Not all of it though.

I remember thinking about Sean Dyche's record in the transfer market and while he had some massive successes he also seemed to have a growing # of misses which was surely getting noticed upstairs.

The handling of the Danny Drinkwater loan where we poured good money after bad for zero return was bad on so many levels and not just financial.

I don't like how Garlick cut off the funds. But I'd have some sympathy if he'd have thought he wanted better return on the money we had spent.

Sean Dyche did bring in a ton of extra money - but there was also significant waste as well.

[fidelcastro]

Mike Garlick coming in for a lot of criticism and I think quite a lot of it it's justified. Not all of it though.

I remember thinking about Sean Dyche's record in the transfer market and while he had some massive successes he also seemed to have a growing # of misses which was surely getting noticed upstairs.

The handling of the Danny Drinkwater loan where we poured good money after bad for zero return was bad on so many levels and not just financial.

I don't like how Garlick cut off the funds. But I'd have some sympathy if he'd have thought he wanted better return on the money we had spent.

Sean Dyche did bring in a ton of extra money - but there was also significant waste as well.

Dyche didn't want Drinkwater... Or at least that's what I heard.

[boatshed bill]

Dyche didn't want Drinkwater... Or at least that's what I heard.

As I see it all the successful signings were made by Dyche and all the crap ones by Garlick

[fidelcastro]

As I see it all the successful signings were made by Dyche and all the crap ones by Garlick

Very funny, but all managers make crap signings. Dyche was no exception to that, but I think it's clear he didn't want the likes of Drinkwater and Weghorst.

[whiffa]

Sean's chat with Lineker for The Rest Is Football has just dropped on YouTube for those interested:

https://youtu.be/Ur0GZI3ENFg?si=AsncS-oC8MCnUV0L

[Devils_Advocate]

As I see it all the successful signings were made by Dyche and all the crap ones by Garlick

Im not surprised as that's the narrative that gets pushed on here by CT and far too many people take what he says as gospel

[Hbclaret007]

Im not surprised as that's the narrative that gets pushed on here by CT and far too many people take what he says as gospel

Perhaps you should give people more credit to think for themselves. I bet not all people on here believe your agenda and the tripe you spout.

[TsarBomba]

Mike Garlick coming in for a lot of criticism and I think quite a lot of it it's justified. Not all of it though.

I remember thinking about Sean Dyche's record in the transfer market and while he had some massive successes he also seemed to have a growing # of misses which was surely getting noticed upstairs.

The handling of the Danny Drinkwater loan where we poured good money after bad for zero return was bad on so many levels and not just financial.

I don't like how Garlick cut off the funds. But I'd have some sympathy if he'd have thought he wanted better return on the money we had spent.

Sean Dyche did bring in a ton of extra money - but there was also significant waste as well.

The club was at a bit of a crossroads towards the end of the Dyche/Garlick era. More clubs around us were getting invested in ie Newcastle, and although we had done remarkably well to stay up for so long, spending so little, that wasn’t going to last much longer.

There was a bit of wastage with the bigger signings made by Dyche but that’s football, some signings work out and some don’t.

If Garlick wanted a better return on the money we had spent then imo he was being incredibly unrealistic. You’ll never get a better return on what we managed to achieve over those 6 years compared to what we spent. We were the envy of everyone.

[Big Vinny K]

Mike Garlick coming in for a lot of criticism and I think quite a lot of it it's justified. Not all of it though.

I remember thinking about Sean Dyche's record in the transfer market and while he had some massive successes he also seemed to have a growing # of misses which was surely getting noticed upstairs.

The handling of the Danny Drinkwater loan where we poured good money after bad for zero return was bad on so many levels and not just financial.

I don't like how Garlick cut off the funds. But I'd have some sympathy if he'd have thought he wanted better return on the money we had spent.

Sean Dyche did bring in a ton of extra money - but there was also significant waste as well.

The Drinkwater signing was unusual and pretty expensive mistake I agree (though sounds like it may not have been even down to Dyche)

In terms of ‘significant waste” people see to often use the Gibson signing as an example of this partly because it turned acrimonious and we played him so little. At the time most fans thought this was a great signing for someone who had captained Boro for so long and even made the England squad. I cannot remember anybody saying he was over priced when we signed him. It’s also conveniently forgotten that financially it was not that bad a signing either. We got loan fees and also £8m when we sold him.

Of course there were other signings like Walters, Stephens etc that some may point to but there is no manager in the history of the EPL that has a 100% transfer success record and there probably never will be. It then becomes about trying to minimise the “expensive mistakes” and not sure Dyche really had any (or many) of these. It certainly cannot be described as “significant waste”

If you look at Dyche’s overall transfer record over his tenure I am struggling to think of another manager in the PL who was better than Dyche over such a sustained period. And then you take into account that even at his time at Everton he brought more in player sales than he spent on new players then I think he can justifiably argue that he is one of the best managers around currently at working within the kind of budgetary constraints he has faced in his time as a manager.

The bit that ironically he is not proven in is giving him £100m to £150m a season and developing a team that can more than just survive in the EPL. Or even doing what the likes of Brentford, Fulham, Palace, Forest are doing now and spending £25m to £30m on a couple of key players each season which they think will take them to the next level and competing for Europe etc. When you are doing that if it fails then you are probably getting sacked if your club is stagnating or finishing bottom 6 or 7 (like Wolves, West Ham, Everton etc)

[fatboy47]

Reasonable attempt to piggy-back onto the back of the excellent ""Kin""...

"Kin" a long way in front though in terms of acting, believability and scriptwriting.

Soz...wrong thread!!

[martin_p]

Sean's chat with Lineker for The Rest Is Football has just dropped on YouTube for those interested:

https://youtu.be/Ur0GZI3ENFg?si=AsncS-oC8MCnUV0L

And pertinent to the conversation going on on this thread Dyche says that there were never any signings that ‘he didn’t want’ but some that he wasn’t sure about.

[Bordeauxclaret]

That’s a blow for a few on here.

[Bacchus]

It became pretty clear as Dyche's time at Burnley progressed that he was increasingly aware of his 'brand' and how to promote and maintain it. His media output is definitely carefully managed with that in mind and I suspect that it had more of an impact than it should have done over some of his transfer dealings (or lack of.)

He doesn't generally come over as well as he once did in interviews and his completely one-eyed, context-free remarks about Kompany don't surprise me in the slightest. Does he really think he had earned a Munich-level job? Or that Kompany (top of the league, QF of Champs League) shouldn't? I also agree with earlier comments that he can come across as sneering at supporters / the general public at times.

He will forever be a legend at Burnley for what he achieved here, and rightly so, but the 'everything good was because of Dyche, everything bad was someone else's fault' narrative that prevails on here at times is a bit blinkered.