A player on a private jet

[fidelcastro]

I don't know, he's started 3 league games in 18 months. Nobody is paying him what he's on now, ever again. He's our Winstone Bogarde, let's just embrace it.

I'd rather not embrace us losing that kind of money if he's never going to play.

My guess is he'll be offloaded in the summer.

[burnley007]

The frustration is so big because we all know he is potentially a fabulous talent, with match winning ability.
That brief cameo in the Cup game showed it, to play a part in 2 goals after so long out is pretty remarkable.

I am desperate to see him playing for us again, I sincerely hope the lad is OK and that this situation, (whatever it is), can be resolved in a positive way for all involved.

Good luck to him in whatever it is he is dealing with.

[aggi]

Scott Parker said recently that he was out for the foreseeable future but Pace had said he was fit to play but didn’t know whether he would or not. It’s not right and it’s not helping the player at all.

Wasn't there a month or two between those two statements (and he actually played between them)?

[The Shire Claret]

Problem is no one knows whats happened but a lot of fans have made the assumptions they have and now he's enemy number one to many and he will be fully aware of this...

Lack of communication doesn't help but if the assumptions are not in line with the reality ... you have a player that could be special for us down the line hating the fanbase before he's got going and wanting out....

Just like Trafford wont forget , regardless of this season he will be a lot keener to leave due to the way he was treated last season....

If you have nowt nice to say, don't say it at all.... not always a statement true to life but I think it should be for our players unless it's factual they are downing tools....

[Devils_Advocate]

Wasn't there a month or two between those two statements (and he actually played between them)?

Apparently Mr Pace forced him to play when he was really still injured. I heard Mr Pace had Muric kidnap his girlfriend and and would only release if Tresor played and pretended to be fit but thats just a rumour and may not be fully true

[NottsClaret]

I'd rather not embrace us losing that kind of money if he's never going to play.

My guess is he'll be offloaded in the summer.

We'll have to lose that money one way or another. I can't see how we offload him if nobody comes close to matching his salary, even on a free. And what club would risk any sort of transfer fee on a lad who basically doesn't play anymore for whatever reason.

I'm sure we'd have moved him on last summer if there'd been any takers. The only change in that situation now is, he's gone another year without playing but his wage is still the same. I can't see how this ends other than him seeing out the next 2 years at least - probably all three - and us taking the hit.

[Row x]

Scott Parker said recently that he was out for the foreseeable future but Pace had said he was fit to play but didn’t know whether he would or not. It’s not right and it’s not helping the player at all.

They were said at different times
After Paces comments he played at Reading
Parkers comments were after thar so probably both were correct at the time they were made

[fidelcastro]

We'll have to lose that money one way or another. I can't see how we offload him if nobody comes close to matching his salary, even on a free. And what club would risk any sort of transfer fee on a lad who basically doesn't play anymore for whatever reason.

I'm sure we'd have moved him on last summer if there'd been any takers. The only change in that situation now is, he's gone another year without playing but his wage is still the same. I can't see how this ends other than him seeing out the next 2 years at least - probably all three - and us taking the hit.

I thought there were rumoured takers. Wasn't Ajax the move that fell through?

Tresor and his agent will have to be more realistic in what club/contract he goes to next, but I can't believe that Pace and Co will just allow him to see out his contract sat on his hands.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Trying to predict what might happen with a player two or even three years down the line seems like a fools errand to me.
Especially when nobody has any idea what’s going on with him right now.

[ClaretTony]

They were said at different times
After Paces comments he played at Reading
Parkers comments were after thar so probably both were correct at the time they were made

Fully aware of that, but Pace said it at a time when he wasn't available for the team. He subsequently did play at Reading, coming on as a substitute, but he's not been in a squad since. What I've been told suggests Parker was a lot closer to telling the truth than Pace.

[CrosspoolClarets]

It is obvious for all to see that the lad doesn’t feel he is either physically or mentally fit to play, and that he tried in the Cup but struggled. Everything we see and hear and all the rumours, some strong rumours, makes me think it is physical not mental.

Then we have the other strong rumours that Burnley tried to get out of the deal to sign him in the summer - which would be after his absence from the team started.

The player must be very down and is struggling to visualise his future career not just for his time at Burnley (I bet Beyer feels the same with his constant injuries).

I’d suggest we view him no different than other long term absentees and wish him well whatever the future holds for him.

[Goliath]

It is obvious for all to see that the lad doesn’t feel he is either physically or mentally fit to play, and that he tried in the Cup but struggled. Everything we see and hear and all the rumours, some strong rumours, makes me think it is physical not mental.

Then we have the other strong rumours that Burnley tried to get out of the deal to sign him in the summer - which would be after his absence from the team started.

The player must be very down and is struggling to visualise his future career not just for his time at Burnley (I bet Beyer feels the same with his constant injuries).

I’d suggest we view him no different than other long term absentees and wish him well whatever the future holds for him.

Whether you're right or wrong, the one word you definitely can't use for anything surrounding the whole scenario is 'obvious'.

[cblantfanclub]

Suggest the club gives him some guidance on social awareness and the use of social media or threads like this happen. Didn't JJ Watt give the players a talk about what the club meant to the fans. I guess Mike skipped that one.

[daveisaclaret]

Suggest the club gives him some guidance on social awareness and the use of social media or threads like this happen. Didn't JJ Watt give the players a talk about what the club meant to the fans. I guess Mike skipped that one.

Don't see how it will help the situation to tell the lad some fans are upset that he's a human being living his life

[cblantfanclub]

He can be a human being just living his life without posting. It's about awareness, a little bit of humility and common sense.

[RMutt]

Suggest the club gives him some guidance on social awareness and the use of social media or threads like this happen. Didn't JJ Watt give the players a talk about what the club meant to the fans. I guess Mike skipped that one.

Agree. If he using social media and there is a genuine reason for his absence, the odd ‘bear with me I’m desperate to play’ or ‘ I’m gutted I’ve had another setback’ might be more advisable than cryptic messages from expensive plane flights or ( bad jokes?) about his disappointment at a failed move.

[agreenwood]

I don’t care about Tresor,
He don’t care about me,
Except he lives in my head,
Rent free

[daveisaclaret]

He can be a human being just living his life without posting. It's about awareness, a little bit of humility and common sense.

Posting is part of living his life, no different to how we like posting on here.

[claretcarrot93]

Fully aware of that, but Pace said it at a time when he wasn't available for the team. He subsequently did play at Reading, coming on as a substitute, but he's not been in a squad since. What I've been told suggests Parker was a lot closer to telling the truth than Pace.

So basically he was right when he said it and you just don't like Pace.

[cblantfanclub]

As living his life appears to be wanting to keep certain issues private along with the club (which is fine by me) a low profile that reflects he wants to keep his private affairs private would be prudent. There are plenty of ways to post to your mates privately. His judgement appears poor. I'm sure he's living his life.

[ClaretTony]

So basically he was right when he said it and you just don't like Pace.

Utter nonsense

[KRBFC]

There must be something stopping him/his agent from speaking. His agent wasn’t shy saying how Tresor felt like a ghost last season now suddenly a season of silence?

To me the cryptic messages suggests he wants to speak. Also the more interesting photo he posted hasn’t been reposted here.

[KRBFC]

Interesting text on the screen

[Conroy92]

Will someone on twitter just ask him?

[aggi]

I'd entirely forgotten about Shurandy Sambo. Is he on loan or still here or what?

[jojomk1]

Asked my wife if she could make me that for my tea

Now just waiting for the food trolley to come round in the ward at Blackburn Royal

[boatshed bill]

Tresor, Redmond and Sambo...
could it be that Scott Parker just doesn't really want them?

[ClaretPete001]

I've had friends who behaved in a way that was not great (in my opinion) but I publicly supported them because even good people make mistakes. I don't think you can read much into the players support of him...!

Alan Pace said what he said and until we know different I think you have to accept it at face value. Alan Pace made some egregious comments about Sean Dyche's departure, which seemed unlikely to be true at a supporters meeting so I also think it's possible to be sceptical of Alan Pace.

To be honest, I'm not from the social media generation and have little tolerance for these pampered men-children sharing their personal stories publicly.

If he is injured or unwell I hope he gets well soon. The club is clearly not going to shed any light on this situation so there isn't much point speculating on it more than we have done. And if Mike Tresor feels aggrieved by the clubs attitude then join the real world we've all be sh*t on and for a lot less money without feeling the need to post pictures of our half eaten Tea on social media.

He will have his say in due course - no doubt.

[fidelcastro]

Tresor, Redmond and Sambo...
could it be that Scott Parker just doesn't really want them?

Good question. I doubt it's a co-incidence that they've formed a little clique but yet they hardly ever play.

[boatshed bill]

Good question. I doubt it's a co-incidence that they've formed a little clique but yet they hardly ever play.

The 3 together does appear to imply something.
Maybe none of them attains the consistent fitness level required

[fidelcastro]

The 3 together does appear to imply something.
Maybe none of them attains the consistent fitness level required

It's as good a theory as any.

[Murger]

Then why has Esteve liked the post too then?

[boatshed bill]

Then why has Esteve liked the post too then?

You would have to ask him

[ClaretTony]

I'd entirely forgotten about Shurandy Sambo. Is he on loan or still here or what?

Still here. We tried to get him out on loan in the summer and didn't add him to the squad list, but then did add him when the loan didn't happen.

Came on as a sub at Sunderland and then started against Wolves in the League Cup four days later. He hasn't played since.

[Goliath]

Still here. We tried to get him out on loan in the summer and didn't add him to the squad list, but then did add him when the loan didn't happen.

Came on as a sub at Sunderland and then started against Wolves in the League Cup four days later. He hasn't played since.

Probably a bit of a clue from his comment. They possibly both think they are in the same boat. It definitely seems like confirmation that it isn't Tresor's choosing not to be playing at the moment.
It's a bit baffling why he or Sambo never seem to play for the reserves though.

[ClaretTony]

Probably a bit of a clue from his comment. They possibly both think they are in the same boat. It definitely seems like confirmation that it isn't Tresor's choosing not to be playing at the moment.
It's a bit baffling why he or Sambo never seem to play for the reserves though.

I don't think Trésor is fit to play, I've no idea what's gone on with Sambo.

[NewClaret]

I thought there were rumoured takers. Wasn't Ajax the move that fell through?

Tresor and his agent will have to be more realistic in what club/contract he goes to next, but I can't believe that Pace and Co will just allow him to see out his contract sat on his hands.

Ajax and another French club, maybe Lille, I forget. Both fell through. Then seemingly no interest in January. You have to question why two interested parties failed to conclude a deal in summer and nobody was interested in January.

I’m not disputing that a solution might be found for him to leave in summer but it will be very tough to find a club willing to pay him what he’d want. You’d expect he’d have to take a large pay cut and an even bigger one (to today) if we’re promoted and his wage doubles again.

Maybe we’ll agree to pay his wages while he goes out on loan and hopefully refinds form so we can sell him on.

[Conroy92]

Part of me still wonders if part of his deal was appearance related.

[Dark Cloud]

Part of me still wonders if part of his deal was appearance related.

Yes, you mean like we're keeping it to 3 because 4 triggers another 10 million? Good call.

[bumba]

Interesting text on the screen

Maybe he's flying somewhere in the world for specialist treatment on whatever his issue is that should hopefully help him play shortly after?

All seems cryptic and strange though

[agreenwood]

Part of me still wonders if part of his deal was appearance related.

I think that’s the only thing that tallies with what has actually gone on and what has been said. Not ruling out the possibility that fibs have been told, but something along the lines of him being due a wage rise or large bonus when he reaches x league appearances and the club trying to negotiate it out of his contract before they’ll let him play again would make some sense.

It makes no sense that he’d simply refuse to play, particularly given the club have been using him for marketing and his teammates seem to like him. Injuries or mental health no longer tally with what Pace said. Other than a contractual dispute that the club see as being in his court, I don’t know what else it could be.

[NewClaret]

Part of me still wonders if part of his deal was appearance related.

I’d be amazed if his deal wasn’t heavily performance weighted and certainly took in to account possible relegation.

[Goliath]

I think that’s the only thing that tallies with what has actually gone on and what has been said. Not ruling out the possibility that fibs have been told, but something along the lines of him being due a wage rise or large bonus when he reaches x league appearances and the club trying to negotiate it out of his contract before they’ll let him play again would make some sense.

It makes no sense that he’d simply refuse to play, particularly given the club have been using him for marketing and his teammates seem to like him. Injuries or mental health no longer tally with what Pace said. Other than a contractual dispute that the club see as being in his court, I don’t know what else it could be.

Do we think Parker would outright lie and say he's injured?
I know managers have to lie sometimes but he'd have to have been lying all season. I just can't see it, hes got more integrity than that.

Also, surely the club just have admitted it by now. We'd have to protect the player at some point if we weren't playing him due to a financial reason and say it to the media. Some of the stick he gets is horrific and I don't think we'd allow him to keep going through that if it was a strictly financial decision on the clubs behalf.

[Bacchus]

I understand the curiosity, but surely there is a reasonable expectation by now for supporters to realise that he isn't going to play any time soon, for whatever reason, and that neither the player or club are going to publicise that reason.

Just accept it. We don't know, we aren't going to find out, there is no obligation to tell us.

[k90bfc]

Why not just ask,Vincent Kompany,he bought him here in the first place,then jumped ship,and left the problem,what ever it is with us,to try and sort out,at our expense!

[JMU81]

I was told something a few months ago about Tresor, I just took it at face value and have not repeated it to anyone. If true though people would feel ashamed at some of the things they have been saying. Obviously key words are " if true "

[Robbie_painter]

I was told something a few months ago about Tresor, I just took it at face value and have not repeated it to anyone. If true though people would feel ashamed at some of the things they have been saying. Obviously key words are " if true "

Yawn

[The Shire Claret]

Yawn

Fans hammering a player with nothing really to go off is pretty tiresome too

[ClaretFelix]

I haven't heard a thing, have no inside knowledge, but I'm pretty grown up and adult enough to conclude there is something more to it than just refusing to play.

The chants and constant barracking are quite frankly embarrassing and clearly are being picked up on by Tresor himself.
It's easy to hide behind the mask of anonymity on here, spouting whatever you like about whoever you like, whilst not being in possession of the full facts.

IF this is something he is able to overcome, and he dons the shirt again, would you blame him for seeking a move to another club where he wouldn't be belittled at every turn and instead given time and patience to showcase his obvious talent??

[warksclaret]

Whether he has a serious illness or not, the fans of any other club, who see their club make a near record signing, to see him not play for the majority of two seasons, and coupled to a complete absence of information about his health, will treat him in the same manner as our fan. Maybe worse