Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

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Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by HurstGrangeClaret » Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:22 pm

Be interested to see what posters thought about his involvement in our second goal. Was it a foul, a coming together or was it more dark arts as has been mentioned in another thread?

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:27 pm

Certainly assisted the goal
These days however shirt pulling and “ barging” goes unpunished in all 4 divisions or there would be free kicks/ penalties on a much more regular basis

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by Kgun5 » Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:30 pm

I would say it was Flemm just trying to get to the ball and nudging the guy who's screening him. Six of one, for me.
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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:45 pm

Kgun5 wrote:
Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:30 pm
I would say it was Flemm just trying to get to the ball and nudging the guy who's screening him. Six of one, for me.
This. I think he had eyes on the ball.

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by KlyBfc » Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:47 pm

If that was a foul by Flemming so was the one (actually even more so) on Edwards on the edge of the area in the forst half

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by JimmyRobbo » Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:50 pm

It was exactly what most players should do. An acceptable amount of force. Any more extended arms..probably a foul. I thought it is what I should expect to feel, as a defender.

Goal.

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by Kgun5 » Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:57 pm

I'll also note that there is no immediate complaint from the supposedly fouled defender. He looks buggered at the outcome more than anything.

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by Father Jack » Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:55 pm

No more than the push which got Antony’s goal disallowed an against WBA. But slightly less obvious as it was off the ball?
Also agree the defender didn’t complain which is normally a good sign of a fair challenge.

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:43 am

Both were moving back towards the flight of the cross but neither would have got there.
Nothing to see for me.

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:57 am

Much ado about nothing

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:08 am

I think if the defender had gone down that ref would have ruled the goal out

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:11 am

Never a foul

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by Plissken » Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:14 am

As I said on Bluesky, if that is under VAR and against an Arsenal or Liverpool defender, that is ruled out. In the moment, I thought it was a clear push and was waiting for the whistle.

But a PL defender is going to fling himself to the floor in that situation and a Championship level one isn't.
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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by willsclarets » Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:14 am

Father Jack wrote:
Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:55 pm
No more than the push which got Antony’s goal disallowed an against WBA. But slightly less obvious as it was off the ball?
Also agree the defender didn’t complain which is normally a good sign of a fair challenge.
Agree, and the wba defender didn't complain either I remember. Neither a foul

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by claretspice » Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:31 pm

I don't think that's a foul under any interpretation of the rules and I also don't think it influenced proceedings. Hannibal's knock back would've been behind the defender regardless.

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by RVclaret » Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:43 pm

Never ever a foul.

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Re: Flemm’s “push” for our 2nd goal

Post by IanMcL » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:34 pm

KlyBfc wrote:
Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:47 pm
If that was a foul by Flemming so was the one (actually even more so) on Edwards on the edge of the area in the forst half
Edwards was visibly flattened, from the back.
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