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Players from relegated teams?

Post by burnley007 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:59 am

I would imagine there will be some decent deals to be done on players from the teams relegated from the Prem.
Ipswich certainly did it last summer.

I'm not sure of each club's financial situation, but they will all need to sell.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by burnley007 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:00 am

Got to be some gems for a reasonable fee?

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by martin_p » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:00 am

What about that Ipswich keeper Muric?

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by mdd2 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:01 am

I think Leicester have big problems having read an article about them somewhere.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by martin_p » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:02 am

mdd2 wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:01 am
I think Leicester have big problems having read an article about them somewhere.
Isn’t there a chance they’ll start the season on minus points like Sheffield United?

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by RVclaret » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:02 am

Not many I’m overly keen on / are realistic.

Ipswich - Cajuste in cm on loan from Napoli
Saints - Fernandes in cm (prob ask for too much)
Leicester - Ndidi I like, could see him wanting a fresh start, we’d lose him (and Hannibal) to AFCON though

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by summitclaret » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:03 am

Commanding experienced cb essential. Maybe Conner Coady?

Younger, quicker right back. Walker-Peters?

Strong line leader. Maybe Delap?

Power, strength and height in cm. ?

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Post by ksrclaret » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:07 am

I think I'd stay away from anyone at Leicester - their dressing room sounds utterly toxic with players such as Winks and Vestergaard behaving poorly and in exactly the opposite way that Parker has generated from our players.

Southampton have Walker-Peters leaving on a free I think. I'd certainly take him, but I'd imagine we'd have to get in line.

Ipswich have played in a very similar way to how we played last season, so for that reason, I don't think there is anyone who's good enough other than Delap who has far bigger suitors that Burnley.
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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by Herts Clarets » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:08 am

summitclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:03 am
Commanding experienced cb essential. Maybe Conner Coady?

Younger, quicker right back. Walker-Peters?

Strong line leader. Maybe Delap?

Power, strength and height in cm. ?
Don't think there is any doubt Delap will leave Ipswich but he will be destined for an established Premier League side. Out of our reach both financially and matching the player's ambitions I would say.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by jedi_master » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:14 am

Winks fell out with Van Nistelrooy but I have always been a fan of his as a player and he has great experience. I wonder if he knows Parker and Edwards from the Spurs youth side too.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by RVclaret » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:16 am

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:14 am
Winks fell out with Van Nistelrooy but I have always been a fan of his as a player and he has great experience. I wonder if he knows Parker and Edwards from the Spurs youth side too.
I like Winks too but isn’t he too Cullen-esque? I’m thinking the main cm signing needs to be a destroyer / dynamic ball winner type.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by KRBFC » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:19 am

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:14 am
Winks fell out with Van Nistelrooy but I have always been a fan of his as a player and he has great experience. I wonder if he knows Parker and Edwards from the Spurs youth side too.
They fell out because Winks refused to relocate to live closer to the training ground and wouldn’t travel up the night before a game. Incredibly unprofessional

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by jedi_master » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:20 am

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:16 am
I like Winks too but isn’t he too Cullen-esque? I’m thinking the main cm signing needs to be a destroyer / dynamic ball winner type.
Yeah would agree that he is very Cullen-ish. I do though quite like the idea of two players so comfortable in possession possibly in a three next to a big, physical player. I think it depends on the likelihood of Brownhill staying too.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:23 am

Don't forget last nights win has already triggered some "buy" obligations so we've already spent a good chuck of cash I'd imagine...

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by Selby Claret » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:28 am

summitclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:03 am
Commanding experienced cb essential. Maybe Conner Coady?

Younger, quicker right back. Walker-Peters?

Strong line leader. Maybe Delap?

Power, strength and height in cm. ?
Roberts is 29
Walker-Peters is 28

Although I concede he is younger - i assume that's probably not what you meant

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by Conroy92 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:32 am

One that I saw at relegated sides was Harry Winks. Still only 28. Will know Parker from spurs academy.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by RVclaret » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:36 am

Andreshotboots wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:23 am
Don't forget last nights win has already triggered some "buy" obligations so we've already spent a good chuck of cash I'd imagine...
‘Only’ £16m on Anthony & Edwards.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by Spijed » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:38 am

How much have we also paid for Bashir Humphreys?

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Post by RVclaret » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:40 am

Spijed wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:38 am
How much have we also paid for Bashir Humphreys?
£12m is the total suggested sum, whether that includes bonuses and whatnot, someone on here recently was informed the initial fee is way less.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:46 am

I wouldn't worry too much about the players we're going to sign permanently now - Humphreys, Anthony, Edwards, and Flemming. On face value they seem to add up to around £30-35m, but these things are spread out over many years these days and some of it will have been included in this season's planning because we were due to sign them regardless of promotion (Humphreys and Flemming).

We'll have to be a lot smarter about who we bring in this time, and I do get the sense that big lessons were learned last season. Keeping the core group together this summer instead of disrupting it will be a very good start.
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Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:51 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:36 am
‘Only’ £16m on Anthony & Edwards.
Were Flemming and Bashir not obligations to buy also, or had we already started making payments?. I'm sure Flemming is still Millwall's player hence why he can't play the last game.

We've had so much movement I can't keep track if I'm being honest :D

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by GetIntoEm » Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:55 pm

The obligations won't impact next season's spending I wouldn't have thought. We were signing most regardless of promotion, apert from Edwards

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:59 pm

I wouldn't touch any of them.

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Post by IanMcL » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:00 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:01 am
I think Leicester have big problems having read an article about them somewhere.
I think Vardy might be available cheap, now he qualifies for a pension.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by AfloatinClaret » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:12 pm

I'd honestly rather that we looked at players from those Championship sides who aren't going up; the only player I see being mentioned that I think would seriously improve us is Delap and as noted already, we aren't going to get him.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:20 pm

Relegation aside, how has Taylor Harwood-Bellis performed at Saints? He was top class for us.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by Boss Hogg » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:21 pm

Not many if any I’d fancy. Most have looked woefully short of the required standard. I noticed O’Shea got nutmegged in his last match. Wasn’t he itching to leave but we will now pass him by as we go up.
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Post by claretspice » Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:29 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:14 am
Winks fell out with Van Nistelrooy but I have always been a fan of his as a player and he has great experience. I wonder if he knows Parker and Edwards from the Spurs youth side too.
He will do i think. A bit older than Edwards but would have been training with seniors when Parker was finishing as a player I suspect.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by CryerBFC » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:58 pm

Relegated teams:

Saints - Sulemana, Fernandes, THB if either CJ or Steve go
Leicester - El Khannous, Ndidi, Fatawu
Ipswich - Phillips - in the hope someone like Parker could get him back to his best

Championship:

Hamer - if Sheff Utd don’t go up
Rigg - think he’ll have bigger suitors but he’s a good un
Isidor - Barnes will retire so need an out and out striker
Sargent - as above
Van Ewijk - don’t think Sonne is up to it but Roberts and him would be sufficient
Hackney - young powerful CM
Dwomoh - relatively risk free signing on the cheap, looked like one of watfords better players last week


I’m sure they’ll be some targets further afield but if we want to do our shopping in this country, there’s a few there that I think would improve the squad as a whole.
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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:15 pm

The ones we would want are the ones we wouldn’t be able to get. Delap being the obvious, perfect for Parker but will go somewhere like Everton or even higher. Available on a £30m release clause and worth a gamble in case no-one else can afford it (maybe if we get some dosh from Everton). Ramsdale better than many think if Trafford goes.

I’m struggling really. Ndidi, Souttar from Leicester?

That chap O’Shea - apparently he hates staying at relegated sides, I’d bid then deliberately pull out 12 hours before the window shuts :lol: :lol:

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Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:08 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:15 pm
The ones we would want are the ones we wouldn’t be able to get. Delap being the obvious, perfect for Parker but will go somewhere like Everton or even higher. Available on a £30m release clause and worth a gamble in case no-one else can afford it (maybe if we get some dosh from Everton). Ramsdale better than many think if Trafford goes.

I’m struggling really. Ndidi, Souttar from Leicester?

That chap O’Shea - apparently he hates staying at relegated sides, I’d bid then deliberately pull out 12 hours before the window shuts :lol: :lol:
Odds on for going down even with signing relatively good championship players at a premium. Take the cream off L1 & they'll be ok for championship when all likelihood the course won't change whatever method apart from saving money.

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Post by Tackler49 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:23 pm

What about Haji Wright at Coventry City?
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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:49 am

summitclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:03 am
Commanding experienced cb essential. Maybe Conner Coady?

Younger, quicker right back. Walker-Peters?

Strong line leader. Maybe Delap?

Power, strength and height in cm. ?
Delap has a release clause, from memory it's over 40 million. He'll go to a top 10 side

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:52 am

like it or not we need units, absolute speed merchants or lads who can keep the ball, not sure how many of those the relegated sides have tbh. You would think sides like Villa or Forest would shed a few and replace with better. Ross Barkley would be one if he is remotely interested in playing, I saw him shaking his head in disgust at Emery tonight when Villa made substitutions and he wasn't one of them.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:59 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:49 am
Delap has a release clause, from memory it's over 40 million. He'll go to a top 10 side
Is that because only a handful of clubs can afford him or because he is that good?

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Post by lakedistrictclaret » Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:08 pm

If we do sign Isidor I hope SP doesn’t nominate him as our penalty taker.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:14 pm

ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:20 pm
Relegation aside, how has Taylor Harwood-Bellis performed at Saints? He was top class for us.
Well he got an England cap so someone rates him but I’ve seen far too many mistakes for me.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:16 pm

No need for a CB if Steve, CJER, Humphreys and a fit Beyer all stay.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:19 pm

O’Sheas third successive relegation. He looks like one of those guys too good for the Championship and not good enough for the PL. He’ll end up at Celtic.

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Post by FeedTheArf » Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:56 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:19 pm
O’Sheas third successive relegation. He looks like one of those guys too good for the Championship and not good enough for the PL. He’ll end up at Celtic.
That’d be a cracking move for him to be fair.

He’ll have made a decent living on signing bonuses alone!

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Post by Fretters » Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:09 pm

Ross Barkley is a great shout if we could afford him, especially if Brownhill goes.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:40 pm

I’d love Barkley

Would he be affordable?

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Post by BigGaz » Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:10 pm

Yeah there's no hiding for O'Shea now. He's been part of 3 relegations that have seen his teams repeatedly thumped. I never understood the love in for him from some on here. For at least a third, if not half of last season he was an absolute bomb scare. He did redeem himself somewhat over the course of the season but certainly not to warrant the pant ******* that went on over him leaving. It was never gonna take a world beater to replace him and yet we seem to have found just that

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Post by Stalbansclaret » Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:15 pm

Hayden Hackney from ‘Boro would be a good signing I think.

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:18 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:
Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:15 pm
Hayden Hackney from ‘Boro would be a good signing I think.
Lovely ball player, but hasn’t got the defensive awareness/experience/nous/physicality for a relegation battling team, imo. Boro fans I see don’t rate that side of his game in this league let alone the Prem.

For defensive midfield I’d be looking at Ndidi from Leicester or Dendoncker from Villa. Both experienced at PL level.

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Post by warksclaret » Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:26 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:32 am
One that I saw at relegated sides was Harry Winks. Still only 28. Will know Parker from spurs academy.
He refuses to stay in a local hotel in Leicester on pre match nights, so he is unlikely to move to Burnley.For this reason frozen out of the squad. He is also very similar to Cullen in playing style

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Post by warksclaret » Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:32 pm

I have seen a lot of Leicester this season. No one there for us. Ndidi a few seasons ago but I think Josh Laurent gives us everything he can. Khannhous is a very exciting young prospect but again we are covered by our wingers-same applies to Mavididi both these would be costly.

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Re: Players from relegated teams?

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:55 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:52 am
like it or not we need units, absolute speed merchants or lads who can keep the ball, not sure how many of those the relegated sides have tbh. You would think sides like Villa or Forest would shed a few and replace with better. Ross Barkley would be one if he is remotely interested in playing, I saw him shaking his head in disgust at Emery tonight when Villa made substitutions and he wasn't one of them.
I wasn't the only one who clocked it
https://x.com/EPLBible/status/1914975735665643881

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Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:59 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:16 pm
No need for a CB if Steve, CJER, Humphreys and a fit Beyer all stay.
I agree. But good chance at least one of CJER or Esteve leaves. Reckon THB might not be a terrible choice of replacement in that case.
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