Amdouni

[BabylonClaret]

I think he's got bags of potential. Only 24. In a suitable system, and a manager prepared to use him effectively, then I think he could be an asset. I think he got quite a bit of unfair criticism last season

He was ******* rubbish. Turned up for about half a minute , bullied out of games, looked like he might score a world ie every week but that was all - looked like he might.

In the end we were a better side without him.

He's been fairly average for Benfica so if he can't even impress is a side that's the equivalent of one of the Old Firm sides ina half arsed league how is he going to make a difference in the toughest league in the world?

Hint ... he isn't.

[boatshed bill]

Playing upfront?

Not sure we'd have been as effective. He's hardly torn it up in Portugal either.

What I like about Flemming is that his goals tend to be important goals that directly win points - not like the second or third goal in a 2/3-0 win or whatever, his contributions in tight games, and ability to score goals out of nowhere were massive for us.

But how would he know that when he scored them?
And in any case, as we don't lose games, that could be said about any of our goalscorers.

[burnleytom]

I think there’s a player in there, and wouldn’t be sad to see him back. Would be a huge blow to the accountants though. Allowing his clause to be at the end of the season would have been banked on to balance out paying for Anthony and Humphreys at the same time.

[boatshed bill]

Could he be seen as an upgrade on Sarmiento?

[BabylonClaret]

I think there’s a player in there, and wouldn’t be sad to see him back. Would be a huge blow to the accountants though. Allowing his clause to be at the end of the season would have been banked on to balance out paying for Anthony and Humphreys at the same time.

The money on Anthony alone would be better spent. There might be a player in there but he's not good enough for what we need. Sadly we will have to find another club to loan him out to and maybe get a bit of the money we wasted back.

[CoolClaret]

But how would he know that when he scored them?
And in any case, as we don't lose games, that could be said about any of our goalscorers.

The feel of a game, the importance of it.

Norwich, Blackburn, Sheff U and Watford away immediately spring to mind.

[elwaclaret]

Could he be seen as an upgrade on Sarmiento?

Do not disagree with you at all, an expensive one; but if he’s in the building come start of the season it would be foolish not to employ him as something different for the opposition to think about.

[firstclaret]

Walks in to the team ahead of Flemming for me, if he stayed this season he'd have scored 30+ goals

I agree, keep him, Oderbert & Berge we would have been promoted by Xmas, club can’t explain exodus though.

[fidelcastro]

I agree, keep him, Oderbert & Berge we would have been promoted by Xmas, club can’t explain exodus though.

It doesn't really need explaining. They all wanted to leave.

[Vegas Claret]

Could he be seen as an upgrade on Sarmiento?

He's been one of the biggest disappointments this season for me, worked hard but didn't create anywhere near enough imho. Shouldn't be hard for us to find an upgrade

[bobinho]

Benfica unlikely to trigger the option to sign him permanently, according to reports in Portugal.

Wonder what happens with him? Would you take him back for the Prem, on the basis he can buy into this team? I wonder if, in this ‘new’ environment, we could see more from him?

I follow him on Instagram and he did a post congratulating the club & Brownhill still comments on his posts. Interesting one, would save us going and spending on that area of the pitch?

No.

Truly thought this lad was on another level to what we had. Turns out, I was absolutely bang on. He was easily two levels below how we were operating.

Based on everything I have seen from this lad, nothing whatsoever makes me believe he can make it any higher than league one in this country.

If you come back, please, please prove me wrong Zeki. I will happily eat humble pie should you become half the no 10 id hoped you’d be.

[firstclaret]

Started season with plenty of goals then struggled for goals, Mr Pace said he wished he could explain but there was multiple reasons, I wish he could be honest & tell me just one reason after I’ve committed to a season ticket.

[bobinho]

Walks in to the team ahead of Flemming for me, if he stayed this season he'd have scored 30+ goals

Not even my grandma believes this, and I could get away with any old nonsense with her. Lovely woman, if a little naive.

Amdouni hasn’t got 30 goals in him over two seasons let alone one.

If you want people to take you seriously, Just stop posting altogether.

[bobinho]

Started season with plenty of goals then struggled for goals, Mr Pace said he wished he could explain but there was multiple reasons, I wish he could be honest & tell me just one reason after I’ve committed to a season ticket.

I’d like to think you committed to a season ticket because you are a Burnley fan, not because of what you think one particular player can do.

Being a Burnley fan is, and should be, unconditional. Obviously for you it isn’t.

[firstclaret]

I didn’t commit to a season ticket for 1 player, just think club should have explained reasons for exodus.

[Robbie_painter]

Very very good footballer Amdouni is when you’re on top,when you’re not on top and you want a workhorse he ain’t your man.

[fidelcastro]

I didn’t commit to a season ticket for 1 player, just think club should have explained reasons for exodus.

Why does it need explaining?

Players wanted to leave. Simple as that really.

[bumba]

Not even my grandma believes this, and I could get away with any old nonsense with her. Lovely woman, if a little naive.

Amdouni hasn’t got 30 goals in him over two seasons let alone one.

If you want people to take you seriously, Just stop posting altogether.

He's a class above at championship level he showed that whilst here, I think he'd score for fun at this level you don't. Doesn't mean your right or I'm right but your one of the last people I'd take seriously. I feel sorry for your grandma

[fidelcastro]

He's a class above at championship level he showed that whilst here, I think he'd score for fun at this level you don't. Doesn't mean your right or I'm right but your one of the last people I'd take seriously. I feel sorry for your grandma

That would be fine, but we're not in the Championship next season, so I don't know why you're mentioning it.

[Robbie_painter]

He's a class above at championship level he showed that whilst here, I think he'd score for fun at this level you don't. Doesn't mean your right or I'm right but your one of the last people I'd take seriously. I feel sorry for your grandma

I actually agree with bumba here,he would’ve taken the **** in the championship.

[bumba]

That would be fine, but we're not in the Championship next season, so I don't know why you're mentioning it.

I mentioned it because I think he'd have scored more than Flemming this season and think he'd score more than Flemming next season if used as our striker.

[fidelcastro]

I mentioned it because I think he'd have scored more than Flemming this season and think he'd score more than Flemming next season if used as our striker.

I very much doubt it. He was poor at best last time in the PL for us, and he's hardly set the Portugese league alight this season either.

[Vegas Claret]

I very much doubt it. He was poor at best last time in the PL for us, and he's hardly set the Portugese league alight this season either.

Only Parker has seemingly got a tune out of Jaidon Anthony, he might work wonders (or not) with Zeki. We might not want him back anyway.

[fidelcastro]

Only Parker has seemingly got a tune out of Jaidon Anthony, he might work wonders (or not) with Zeki. We might not want him back anyway.

True I suppose, but I think he'll move on.

[firstclaret]

Why does it need explaining?

Players wanted to leave. Simple as that really.

Maybe you are happy for club to take your money thinking they intend to have certain players available, only to have a mass exodus of departures & guess upon a reason why.

[Vegas Claret]

True I suppose, but I think he'll move on.

same mate

[fidelcastro]

Maybe you are happy for club to take your money thinking they intend to have certain players available, only to have a mass exodus of departures & guess upon a reason why.

Yes. It ended up so badly this season, didn't it?

[Taffy on the wing]

Could he be seen as an upgrade on Sarmiento?

They're not on the same planet.

[mickleoverclaret]

I actually agree with bumba here,he would’ve taken the **** in the championship.

He took the **** a fair bit last season, but maybe not in the way you're suggesting!

[NottsClaret]

I’m not convinced he’ll ever make an impact in the Prem, he’s a talented lad but not enough to make up for his lack of size or fight in that league.

I wouldn’t be too dismissive of him not smashing it at Benfica. Players who stand out for them aren’t going to be on our shopping list. It might not be as strong a league but they’re a very good side, finished top half of that Champions League table.

[jojomk1]

If this is true, hopefully we can loan him out again. Fell well short of PL level for me and while Parker has many attributes, a miracle worker he is not.

Who didn't fall short of PL level under Kompany ?

Parker will make the right decision, unlike many on this messageboard

[firstclaret]

The hypothetical scenario where Amdouni scores 30 goals in the Championship this season would have been even better.

[Row x]

Walks in to the team ahead of Flemming for me, if he stayed this season he'd have scored 30+ goals

That's a little hypocritical after you spent a full season complaining about Kompany replacing players from the promotion team once we got into the premier league

[Benson]

I very much doubt it. He was poor at best last time in the PL for us, and he's hardly set the Portugese league alight this season either.

He’s scored 6 goals and got 2 assists in 723 minutes of playing time in the Portuguese league this season, that’s not a bad return in roughly 8 games.

[BigGaz]

Not sure why the image quality is potato but it seems our friends in Portugal are in to him as well

[Elizabeth]

Who didn't fall short of PL level under Kompany ?

Parker will make the right decision, unlike many on this messageboard

Very unlikely he will want a player who fannies around trying to nutmeg opposition players and losing the ball deep in our defensive half like Amdouni did.

[Ampth7]

I’m sure Parker will have a conversation with Amdouni to see if he could return next season because I don’t think there is going to be a long queue of clubs wanting/able to buy him.

I also don’t think it would be good if he ends up being another Weghorst type whereby he keeps being loaned out until his contract with us expires.

Watch this space as the saying goes!

[warksclaret]

I’m sure Parker will have a conversation with Amdouni to see if he could return next season because I don’t think there is going to be a long queue of clubs wanting/able to buy him.

I also don’t think it would be good if he ends up being another Weghorst type whereby he keeps being loaned out until his contract with us expires.

Watch this space as the saying goes!

Exactly my thoughts and fears he becomes another "Weghorst"-touted out on loan for several years and his transfer value evaporated over the seasons. I guess get him back asap, undergo a full pre-season and let Parker evaluate him

[AlargeClaret]

Can’t see this this flouncing show pony coming back for a backs to the wall prem season again tbh. While he’s a talented player who’s had a champs league campaign in a top euro side ,though he’s a rare actual starter for Benfica .

He’s also worth £20m ish so surely the club will cash in ? There’s a host of decent “Europa league +” type clubs who I’m sure would have him on some exotic option /obligation deal .

[Big Vinny K]

Awful for us last season.
Plays in the wrong part of the pitch….frequently coming way too deep.
Never seemed to have the ball under control when he set off running into brick walls with it.
If he wasn’t trying to beat the opposition team on his own he was often trying to play risky flicks in dangerous parts of the pitch

Really lacks any footballing intelligence/ brain.

To say he would have scored 30 goals in this division after what he has just done in a league which has got probably less strength in depth than the championship is laughable

[ecc]

How many players have scored 30 goals in the Championship? Unless you take penalties AND play all 46 matches it's a pretty tough achievement.

SP said the other day would he have the same philosophy next season ie all players defend. Inevitably he confirmed that. So, there's no place for players like Amdouni.

[xxmunkyennuixx]

I am not convinced by his attitude. To thrive in the Championship you have to want it, I don't think he scores many because he'd not take a kicking. The Flemming comparisons are poor. He's played out of position and adapted pretty successfully scoring goals in big games. There's no doubt about his attitude or commitment. He's tweaked his aggression upwards since Barnes turned up and contributed more frequently. I also don't think Amdouni fits the system. We need more athleticism really.

[LTUK89]

Can’t believe what I’m reading on here. The lad has quality and we’re going to need that next season. Imagine Burnley fans turning their nose up at an international player with Champions League experience, who’s already on the books! I’d drive to Portugal and fetch him myself.

[Big Vinny K]

Can’t believe what I’m reading on here. The lad has quality and we’re going to need that next season. Imagine Burnley fans turning their nose up at an international player with Champions League experience, who’s already on the books! I’d drive to Portugal and fetch him myself.

We should re-sign Scotty Arfield on that basis

[claretspice]

I’m sure Parker will have a conversation with Amdouni to see if he could return next season because I don’t think there is going to be a long queue of clubs wanting/able to buy him.

I also don’t think it would be good if he ends up being another Weghorst type whereby he keeps being loaned out until his contract with us expires.

Watch this space as the saying goes!

I'm not sure I'd be loaning Amdouni out again. You either sell him for whatever we can get or keep him and use him.

Amdouni has talent and given the right environment and time to adapt he might have made it with us. Still might, but whilst we have a better environment now, we still don't have time and if we keep and use him, Tresor realistically has to leave because you can't carry those two and Edwards in the same squad. Even two might be one too many in a team that will be up against it most weeks.

We've got tops three starting berths for creative/attacking players next season and we already have Foster, Flemming, Anthony, Edwards, Tresor and possibly Koleosho (although i suspect he could use a loan) jostling from those berths. We need another striker, and we need a right sided option with pace and athleticism to stretch the game (Tella would be the template) and keep our physicality. That takes us to 7 or 8 options. Plus Ramsey who fitness allowing is arguably another front 3 option. Anything else is 1 in 1 out for me (unless its a one for the future like Banel) - and even then I'd be prioritising more dynamic and robust front 3 players over 'nice' players. I think the evidence suggests that's what keeps teams up and replacing Tella (who was that sort) with Amdouni/Tresor (who were not) was one of our great mistakes two summers ago.

[JR1882]

Amdouni in the 10 in behind a powerful/quick number 9 (not Foster).

I suspect we will try and sell however.

Can’t judge anyone on last season, we saw on the documentary just what a horrible place it was to be, and we were gash.

[Quickenthetempo]

I didn’t commit to a season ticket for 1 player, just think club should have explained reasons for exodus.

If you go and spend 20 grand on a new car and big plasma TV etc.. on your credit card because you get a promotion at work.
If you get sacked 6 months later, all these goods of value will need to be sold.

It will happen next season as well if we get relegated.

[Steddyman]

Has everyone forgotten how lazy Amdouni is? There is a reason he only plays the last 10 mins for his country.

[ecc]

I'm not sure I'd be loaning Amdouni out again. You either sell him for whatever we can get or keep him and use him.

Amdouni has talent and given the right environment and time to adapt he might have made it with us. Still might, but whilst we have a better environment now, we still don't have time and if we keep and use him, Tresor realistically has to leave because you can't carry those two and Edwards in the same squad. Even two might be one too many in a team that will be up against it most weeks.

We've got tops three starting berths for creative/attacking players next season and we already have Foster, Flemming, Anthony, Edwards, Tresor and possibly Koleosho (although i suspect he could use a loan) jostling from those berths. We need another striker, and we need a right sided option with pace and athleticism to stretch the game (Tella would be the template) and keep our physicality. That takes us to 7 or 8 options. Plus Ramsey who fitness allowing is arguably another front 3 option. Anything else is 1 in 1 out for me (unless its a one for the future like Banel) - and even then I'd be prioritising more dynamic and robust front 3 players over 'nice' players. I think the evidence suggests that's what keeps teams up and replacing Tella (who was that sort) with Amdouni/Tresor (who were not) was one of our great mistakes two summers ago.

I agree with you, claretspice. The problem is who would buy him? If we do sell him I can only see a market like Turkey.

[Ampth7]

I'm not sure I'd be loaning Amdouni out again. You either sell him for whatever we can get or keep him and use him.

Amdouni has talent and given the right environment and time to adapt he might have made it with us. Still might, but whilst we have a better environment now, we still don't have time and if we keep and use him, Tresor realistically has to leave because you can't carry those two and Edwards in the same squad. Even two might be one too many in a team that will be up against it most weeks.

We've got tops three starting berths for creative/attacking players next season and we already have Foster, Flemming, Anthony, Edwards, Tresor and possibly Koleosho (although i suspect he could use a loan) jostling from those berths. We need another striker, and we need a right sided option with pace and athleticism to stretch the game (Tella would be the template) and keep our physicality. That takes us to 7 or 8 options. Plus Ramsey who fitness allowing is arguably another front 3 option. Anything else is 1 in 1 out for me (unless its a one for the future like Banel) - and even then I'd be prioritising more dynamic and robust front 3 players over 'nice' players. I think the evidence suggests that's what keeps teams up and replacing Tella (who was that sort) with Amdouni/Tresor (who were not) was one of our great mistakes two summers ago.

Fair points, although I do think we need to go big on a striker because Flemming isn’t really a 9 and Foster isn’t the answer.