Zebra crossings

[pureclaret]

The Highway Code now says you 'should' give way to pedestrians at junctions, not that you 'must'.

It's a total fudge - either go the whole hog or not at all.

My understanding is that you should when possible give way to pedestrians waiting to cross at a junction or on a zebbra crossing but once they have there foot on the road you must give way to the pedestrian .
Its not as clear as it should be though, and how do you know if someone is stood waiting to cross or just having a look round?

[Jakubclaret]

My understanding is that you should when possible give way to pedestrians waiting to cross at a junction or on a zebbra crossing but once they have there foot on the road you must give way to the pedestrian .
Its not as clear as it should be though, and how do you know if someone is stood waiting to cross or just having a look round?

If you aren't sure I always slow down & prepare myself for stopping. In most cases the pedestrian usually shows signs of intent I never second guess anything because people are so unpredictable.

[Bosscat]

If you aren't sure I always slow down & prepare myself for stopping. In most cases the pedestrian usually shows signs of intent I never second guess anything because people are so unpredictable.

Especially those who you slow down for and stop only to find they aren't waiting to cross but having a chat (But I wouldn't mind, because I will have taken a measured dose of Tranquillisers so I would be well chilled and not leaning out of the car window venting my spleen at the inconsiderate pedestrians).

[Jakubclaret]

Especially those who you slow down for and stop only to find they aren't waiting to cross but having a chat (But I wouldn't mind, because I will have taken a measured dose of Tranquillisers so I would be well chilled and not leaning out of the car window venting my spleen at the inconsiderate pedestrians).

I guess it's weighting things up I'd rather be faced with a slight impairment than somebody who's a jittery nervous wreck I know where I'd fancy my chances.

[pureclaret]

If you aren't sure I always slow down & prepare myself for stopping. In most cases the pedestrian usually shows signs of intent I never second guess anything because people are so unpredictable.

Thats what I do I also slow down before a zebra crossing if someone is near to the edge of the pavement to half the required speed limit ie 15 in a 30 20 in a 40 . As that is some where in the highway code re roundabouts especially mini ones with a white spot that people don't drive round. The roundabout thing really gets me going.

[Jakubclaret]

Thats what I do I also slow down before a zebra crossing if someone is near to the edge of the pavement to half the required speed limit ie 15 in a 30 20 in a 40 . As that is some where in the highway code re roundabouts especially mini ones with a white spot that people don't drive round. The roundabout thing really gets me going.

The key to being a good driver is tolerance never hold on to other people's mistakes as frustrating as it can be.

[Jakubclaret]

Especially those who you slow down for and stop only to find they aren't waiting to cross but having a chat (But I wouldn't mind, because I will have taken a measured dose of Tranquillisers so I would be well chilled and not leaning out of the car window venting my spleen at the inconsiderate pedestrians).

People talk in the village with the boars head long dead & the maypole the only watering hole. If 1 did drink excessive amounts of alcohol on a binge basis (which I don't) I'd probably show more patience taking into account the hurried behaviour away from the high priced tagged rohan outlet.

[ecc]

I always give a thumbs up to all drivers who allow me to cross.

Being a level headed individual I chosed to let the incident pass.

Otherwise, I was sorely tempted to drag her out of the car and kick the living crap.out of her.

I also give a thumbs up to the tools who don't stop.

[ecc]

The Highway Code now says you 'should' give way to pedestrians at junctions, not that you 'must'.

It's a total fudge - either go the whole hog or not at all.

Totally agree. It's one or the other.

[pureclaret]

The key to being a good driver is tolerance never hold on to other people's mistakes as frustrating as it can be.

The trouble on roundabouts is when the driver ignores the highway code and cuts across or enters when you are already on then they pip shout and gesticulate as though its your fault and when I give a polite nod or wave they often get even more upset. Once away from the incident I just think tolerance is good just glad they did not hit my car.

[Jakubclaret]

The trouble on roundabouts is when the driver ignores the highway code and cuts across or enters when you are already on then they pip shout and gesticulate as though its your fault and when I give a polite nod or wave they often get even more upset. Once away from the incident I just think tolerance is good just glad they did not hit my car.

If you ensure you are in the right lane to start with you don't need to cut people up. It's all a mixture of inexperienced & impatient drivers I think. I just let things go there's nothing you can do about other people's driving so pointless winding yourself up about it.

[pureclaret]

If you ensure you are in the right lane to start with you don't need to cut people up. It's all a mixture of inexperienced & impatient drivers I think. I just let things go there's nothing you can do about other people's driving so pointless winding yourself up about it.

for me its more the mini ones that people can not use properly, I was on a speed awareness course a few years ago and the instructors said that there are more accidents on them than a normal round about,they were saying that one of the things being looked at is to get cameras on them and any one crossing or touching the white circle would get a ticket unless they were a vehicle that was to big to go round , but that the problem would be checking the vehicles allowed. Also that a car that should go round against the same car that have a caravan on or trailer.

[dougcollins]

they were saying that one of the things being looked at is to get cameras on them and any one crossing or touching the white circle would get a ticket

The last thing we need is more cameras.

I had an outrageous ticket from a bus-lane camera last year in a completely unavoidable situation.

You'll never convince me they're nothing but a cash cow for the authorities.

[dsr]

for me its more the mini ones that people can not use properly, I was on a speed awareness course a few years ago and the instructors said that there are more accidents on them than a normal round about,they were saying that one of the things being looked at is to get cameras on them and any one crossing or touching the white circle would get a ticket unless they were a vehicle that was to big to go round , but that the problem would be checking the vehicles allowed. Also that a car that should go round against the same car that have a caravan on or trailer.

I'm sure they can see the benefit of dishing out 3-point tickets and cash fines to people who cut a corner at night. Perhaps they should put built-in cameras on all white lines in roads and fine everyone who touches one. (Pedestrians included!)

[Bosscat]

People talk in the village with the boars head long dead & the maypole the only watering hole. If 1 did drink excessive amounts of alcohol on a binge basis (which I don't) I'd probably show more patience taking into account the hurried behaviour away from the high priced tagged rohan outlet.

Perhaps you need a few more measured doses of tranques judging by that reply jakub

[pureclaret]

I'm sure they can see the benefit of dishing out 3-point tickets and cash fines to people who cut a corner at night. Perhaps they should put built-in cameras on all white lines in roads and fine everyone who touches one. (Pedestrians included!)

not sure if you understand that this was a conversation about the amount of money paid due to accidents and our car insurance premiums going up, and one of the ways to educate people on the use of Mini roundabouts cutting across mini roundabout at any time of day is dangerous and illegal, but often treated as a knock for a knock with insurance company's . I also think you are trying to be funny re touching white lines but the cost to implement and then the number of counter claims being processed would be ridiculous,

[Jakubclaret]

Perhaps you need a few more measured doses of tranques judging by that reply jakub

More of a veiled comment but when 1 is cognitively addled it's difficult. I'll walk the wainrights & let you do the supping part.

[pureclaret]

The last thing we need is more cameras.

I had an outrageous ticket from a bus-lane camera last year in a completely unavoidable situation.

You'll never convince me they're nothing but a cash cow for the authorities.

your outrage is noted but this was a conversation and that in actual fact as I put the cost to admin this would be huge. And they did not say what cost the ticket would be , I am sure that if it was unavoidable for you you would will have contested the ticket

[Bosscat]

More of a veiled comment but when 1 is cognitively addled it's difficult. I'll walk the wainrights & let you do the supping part.

Yawnnnnn

[Jakubclaret]

Insurance companies are always 1 step ahead once upon a time crash for cash seemed to be common but whiplash claims don't appear to be as straightforward anymore. I wouldn't grumble normally if you noticed some sort of a reduction in the premiums.

[dougcollins]

, I am sure that if it was unavoidable for you you would will have contested the ticket

I assume youve never tried that?

A waste of time, energy, and money in my experience - and definitely not worth the stress.

[pureclaret]

I assume youve never tried that?

A waste of time, energy, and money in my experience - and definitely not worth the stress.

It can be, I am lucky that most mistakes ive made when driving were ones where could not argue, but did have a problem when my company car was caught by a camera in Chorley, but I asked for a picture of the driver as on that day 6 of us drove it as we were working in the area. Although I think they have tightened up on the rules now, I got my brother in law to do a letter (a solicitor ) and he asked for photo proof as under English law you can not be made to admit to a crime you have not done, without reasonable proof. They asked for insurance details and if all the drivers were allowed to drive and had they all full uk licenses . My brother in law sent a reply with company insurance details and a sworn affidavit that he had seen and checked the driving licenses, reply back was if we were sure we could not give the name of the driver then in this instance insufficient evidence to obtain a conviction , case closed. I think I was lucky